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Rfa thanks

Thank you for participating in my RfA. The Rfa was successful with 64 Support and 1 Neutral. None of this would have happened without your support. I would also like to thank my nominator Wizardman and my sensei/co-nom bibliomaniac15--Lenticel 09:12, 20 June 2008 (UTC)

Creating geo lists

Hi I've made an intital suggestion at the GEOBOT talk page in that it would be an excellent idea to generate a full lists of places in a tabled list. Once this is accomplished we can work through what articles could be started in their own right if there is enough info avilabale. I see it as a solid comprehensive base to build geo content on if we have a full world list organized like this. See Misplaced Pages talk:WikiProject Geography/Bot#Creating lists. Please offer your thoughts thanks ♦Blofeld of SPECTRE♦ 14:25, 21 June 2008 (UTC)

Thoughts offered. Check! Keeper | 76 | Disclaimer 15:19, 21 June 2008 (UTC)

LOL actually there is a town in Iran called Bald I think ♦Blofeld of SPECTRE♦ 15:26, 21 June 2008 (UTC)

I wonder if there's a town called Inherently Lazy Procrastination Prone Slightly Overweight, Iran? If you get one named for you, I should get one too :-) Keeper | 76 | Disclaimer 15:28, 21 June 2008 (UTC)

No, but if you slyly insert one into the bot's lists, it won't notice... ;) Fritzpoll (talk) 15:31, 21 June 2008 (UTC)

Keeper, we do already have a town named after you. – iridescent 15:58, 21 June 2008 (UTC)

True true. At least, when me wife's out of town...I bow at your feet though, as you've managed to get an entire mountain named after you...Keeper | 76 | Disclaimer 16:02, 21 June 2008 (UTC)

Now now thats not very nice Iridescent. I do find it amusing some of these place names though. F***ing, Austria has to be the rudest. The sign looks quite prominent I think ♦Blofeld of SPECTRE♦ 16:05, 21 June 2008 (UTC)

Oh, there are plenty worse. – iridescent 16:09, 21 June 2008 (UTC)

LOL. I know I weighed in at 216 pounds last time I checked about 15 1/2 stone. I try to work out in the gym every few days, but I've got increasingly lazy and noticed I have a lot more fat around my mid section than I used to since editing the wiki!! However many situps I do I can't get seem to shift it anymore!! I used to be a 32 waist when I was about 18 and have a six pack. Now I measure a 37 waist! I used to think I was immune to weight gain! ♦Blofeld of SPECTRE♦ 15:41, 21 June 2008 (UTC)

Heh, get out of my head! When I was sixteen I weighed 120 soaking wet. All the same, I'm only in a 35 waist, feeling much better 'bout meself, and so therefore <tongue sticking out at you now...> Keeper | 76 | Disclaimer 15:47, 21 June 2008 (UTC)

I'm 24 with a 30 waist. Sometimes finding pants below 32 inches is tricky. Useight (talk) 16:09, 21 June 2008 (UTC)

Bastard. Try the kids' section. And wait about ten years, and look back through these archives, and note that you will be adding an inch to the waist for every year that passes...Keeper | 76 | Disclaimer 16:26, 21 June 2008 (UTC)

Oh man, an inch every year! I'd hate that. I don't want my waist to ever reach a yard around. Useight (talk) 16:37, 21 June 2008 (UTC)

Get ready for it. You can't stop it, it is inevitable. Keeper | 76 | Disclaimer 16:38, 21 June 2008 (UTC)

Wow 30 waist is tiny. But are you of Filipino descent Useight?, they are generally quite small build in northern European comparison. Diet, metabolism, genes and general physical exercise do play a big role but I should have the genes on my dads side to stay skinny too, my dad is 60 next week and still surfing and keeping fit, I don't know too many 60 year blokes who run up the stairs. His brothers and sisters are as skinny as a rake, so is my sister, its on my mums side the dudes are all like 6'3 or 6'4 and heavy. I would never let myself get like some people are, in fact I feel like a beanpole compared to some of the short fat (and bald lol) beer belly blokes you get walking about in Cardiff lol! ♦Blofeld of SPECTRE♦ 17:21, 21 June 2008 (UTC)

No, I'm your regular American. I think I'm 1/8th German ancestry, but I'm pretty much a mutt when it comes to European ancestry. I'm only semi-active, I don't go hang out at the gym and I pretty much drive everywhere (gas is $3.95!), but I do go for an occasional swim or friendly game of football. I just don't eat much, and when I do it's almost invariably cereal. I need a wife. Useight (talk) 17:38, 21 June 2008 (UTC)

Sheeks 120? Wow thats light! I used to be around 175lb for a while in my late teens. Then when I turned 21 I had another growth spurt and grew too tall! and put on about three stone in bulk in the four years that have followed. I was quite surprised at it but there was little I could do about it. I never realized when I was younger between 18 and 25 you could still grow much! Heheh a quick check reveals there are several towns in Cameroon are called "Balda". Perhaps its up to GEOBOT to work out which is the "baldest" LOL. Happy days ♦Blofeld of SPECTRE♦ 15:58, 21 June 2008 (UTC)

I already knew I was in the minority on wiki as a female but from this discussion with the usual suspects, I think I'm the only female on this talk page too. Since women's pant size make no sense I have no idea what my waste is. I'm short, however (5'3/~156 cm) so finding pants that fits is nearly impossible. _{TravellingCari} 04:24, 22 June 2008 (UTC)

I remember when I used to wear pants. Good times... good times...--Koji†Dude 04:44, 22 June 2008 (UTC)

Has anyone noticed that only on this page can you begin talking about creating a Geo list and then start talking about....lets see- we have gas prices, ancestry, pants, pant sizes, mean names, weight, metabolism, obesity, and all the rest? Wow!! I would say more, but I'm about to die of laughter. Dusti 16:08, 22 June 2008 (UTC)

Dusti, you've just made the next rule for using the Keeper-pedia. See above _{TravellingCari} 01:28, 23 June 2008 (UTC)

I know LOL it is funny how conversations can develop!! ♦Blofeld of SPECTRE♦ 23:29, 22 June 2008 (UTC)

Glad I can make a rule on Keeper-pedia. Oh, Keeper, are you ready for some AFD closings? Dusti 19:16, 23 June 2008 (UTC)

Seychelles

Hi Keeper could you move Flora and fauna of Seychelles to Wildlife of Seychelles. It is part of the African series. Once developed enough there should be seperate page on flora of and fauna of . Thanks ♦Blofeld of SPECTRE♦ 15:45, 22 June 2008 (UTC)

do you want the redirect swapped as well? Fritzpoll (talk) 16:05, 22 June 2008 (UTC)

 Done. The first now redirects to the second (switched). Cheers! Keeper | 76 | Disclaimer 16:33, 22 June 2008 (UTC)

Thanks I have changed the templates too. I'll try to ge tto work on that article this week. Saludos ♦Blofeld of SPECTRE♦ 23:34, 22 June 2008 (UTC)

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Question

Does this edit look legit to you? I'm confused. Dusti 16:35, 22 June 2008 (UTC)

That's over my head. Keeper | 76 | Disclaimer 16:39, 22 June 2008 (UTC)

It looks like the IP placed the block tag on its own talkpage....possibly to try and make someone think that its already blocked, and look at its contributions. Dusti 16:46, 22 June 2008 (UTC)

I'm headed offline til tomorrow, maybe an ANI post is in order to get wider attention, or an easy explanation,it's out of my league and I don't have time for it today. Cheers, Keeper | 76 | Disclaimer 16:48, 22 June 2008 (UTC)

Well, that user is blocked. Useight (talk) 02:32, 23 June 2008 (UTC)

Johnny Cooper American Musician article deleted

Hi,

I was going to update the Johnny Cooper aka John Robert Cooper article and the page was deleted with no notice. I feel that I have been diligent in following various criteria.

His page was in the biography project. I had previous discussions along the way with others on Wiki and all seemed right.

Please advise me so that I can work toward restoration of the article.

Thank you Sharonbrain2 Sharonbrain2 (talk) 22:21, 22 June 2008 (UTC)

Hi Sharon - Keeper will be offline for a few hours now, but I've looked over the deleted article, and can tell you why it was deleted. The problem was that it didn't show why Johnny Cooper was notable for inclusion in the encyclopedia. The question is whether you can show that Cooper was mentioned in multiple independent (i.e. nothing written by him or his associates), reliable sources. Another good notability guideline for his will be WP:MUSIC, which is more specific. If you think that you can find such sources, I am willing to return the article to you within your userspace (e.g at User:Sharonbrain2/Johnny Cooper) for you to work on, on the condition that you get one of us to look it over again before you move it into the main article space - don't move it without changes, for example, or it will probably be deleted again. Let me know what you think Fritzpoll (talk) 22:42, 22 June 2008 (UTC)

To keep

I've userfied the deleted page at User:Sharonbrain2/Johnny Cooper (musician) following discussion with Sharon - I've asked her to refer back to you once her rework is finished before moving it back to article space. Hope that's ok Fritzpoll (talk) 00:42, 23 June 2008 (UTC)

Sounds good fritz, you did what I woulda done. Sorry I wasn't around Sharon. I'll follow along with the conversation, let me know if you need any assistance. One thing that I did notice before deleting is that the level of detail and language that was used suggested to me that you are perhaps a bit "close to the source" yourself, meaning I find it very likely that you know Mr. Cooper in real life. Be sure that you are not letting your personal knowledge of Cooper and his works taint the neutrality of the article. Please see also our guideline on conflict of interest, as well as our guideline on recognizing (and removing) fluffy language. Cheers, hope I can be helpful to you. Keeper | 76 | Disclaimer 14:44, 23 June 2008 (UTC)

Johnny Cooper redo in process

Hi, Thanks for the feedback and the opportunity. The Johnny Cooper article is my first full Wikipage and will raise the bar. Most of the info was from interviews with family, other musicians (one recently passed away), and various venues where he has played. I have various press & media to work from and also will follow the WP:Music info to be sure that all is noted for evidence. This past friday, most recent press from record company, Smith Records has released that his song "Texas To You" will be the season theme song for the Dallas Cowboys in the 08-09 season. Also, they noted that the Texas Rangers team is using the same song as well. Appreciate the feedback! Baby steps..... Cheers Sharonbrain2 (talk) 03:42, 24 June 2008 (UTC)

Article in process questions

I forgot to ask if I have a deadline to complete the article? What if someone else starts a Johnny Cooper page while I am in process of rewrite?

Be of Good Cheer Sharonbrain2 (talk) 14:48, 25 June 2008 (UTC)

Hey there

Since I apparently cannot yet live without it, I've created a sockpuppet. Since I couldn't pretend for five edits to be someone else, I don't even try. You may also be interested in this RfCU I've filed about myself. I'm hoping that all those people will get the piled-up criticism about me out of their systems, and maybe there will be even more than just senseless bashing (although I have to admit I'm skeptical after that AN clusterfuck). So if you decide to comment there, I'd appreciate it if you did it with the valid aspects of others' criticism in mind. Everyme (was Dorftrottel) (talk) 10:22, 23 June 2008 (UTC)

It's a bird! It's a plane! No, it's everyme!!!. Going their next VI...Keeper | 76 | Disclaimer 14:45, 23 June 2008 (UTC)

At least I can say this name easier in my mind ;-) Tan | 39 14:46, 23 June 2008 (UTC)

<--Some thoughts. Dorftrottel, (I just finally got to spelling that right dammit I ain't about to switch just yet), I found it a good hoot how many of those diffs from Postlethwaite fell into four categorys: 1.Something to do with LGRdC/Kurt + RFA. 2.Something to do with your opinions on inclusionism/inclusionists/"trivia in general", 3.Something to do with Screambox that I seemed to be involved in(the irony is thick, I know), or 4.Something to do with fucking your wife/girlfriend. Many if not most are linked at RFC out of context. However, the one directed at Postlethwaite (second from bottom) you should apologize for, it is obvious to me at least that you were just lashing out. Whether that's really your opinion or not is irrelevant, it went too far. The one at Naerii (you're an asshole, not an idiot) was over the top to me as well, and even though Naerii's response said "I agree", you had no way of knowing that's how (s)he'd respond. The comments about "switching names and making it hard to track you down" are a bit of a stretch, as you've been completely open about who you are and what you're former accounts did/didn't do correctly leading to blocks. You've done nothing wrong as far as I'm concerned regarding being open v. being elusive. That claim has no merit. Even this new everyme account is linked directly to your IP/former accounts when it certainly doesn't have to be. I applaud you for your openness in that regard as I find it to be the mature thing to be. So all this to say (I won't be editing the RFC directly unless it gets too ridiculous), here's my advice, in a nutshell. WP:DEBF and WP:DEDE. Don't Edit Before Fucking, and Don't Edit During Euros. Also, for the love of God Most Holy avoid Kurt and LeGrande (and now, apparently RP). They bother you. We get it. You bother them too. It's a big wiki. You told me once before (I'll find a diff if need be) that you'd stop "responding" to them at RFA/AFD, and you've started to migrate back towards doing that I'd noticed. Let me know when you want the RFC that you started on yourself (mostly for attention perhaps?) deleted so we can all move along pleasantly and singing Kumbaya together. Oh, and I'm hoping your new account gets a userpage as topnotch as Dorftrottel's was - one of the best on here (and not just because I was quoted on it...:-) Keeper | 76 | Disclaimer 15:49, 23 June 2008 (UTC)

Signature length limit subverted by substed template

Keeper and/or his talk page stalkers, is there a policy that prohibits bypassing the signature length restriction by changing your sig to {{subst:User:Longsiggy/Sig}} ? –xenocidic (talk) 15:34, 23 June 2008 (UTC)

WP:SIG#Transclusion of templates. J.delanoy_adds 15:40, 23 June 2008 (UTC)

Actually, that just deals with transcluding them, my bad. J.delanoy_adds 15:41, 23 June 2008 (UTC)

I dunno, I thought you were right the first time, looks like it applies to what Xeno is dealing with - Tan | 39 15:43, 23 June 2008 (UTC)

No, as J points out it only applies for transclusion. Substing isn't really transcluding. –xenocidic (talk) 15:45, 23 June 2008 (UTC)

Maybe. I guess the general idea is that if your signature consists of a template, a vandal attacking the template would be amazingly effective at spreading his vandalism surreptitiously. J.delanoy_adds 15:48, 23 June 2008 (UTC)

<--I'm pretty sure we aren't allowed to subst or transclude our signatures. With millions of users, you'd think you'd run across one somewhere in place of 4 tildes if it were allowed. I don't know where it says it though. Keeper | 76 | Disclaimer 15:51, 23 June 2008 (UTC)

Actually, regardless of how it is accomplished, the guidelines at WP:SIG#Length still apply in all cases. So, you could point whoever you're arguing with to that guideline. J.delanoy_adds 15:54, 23 June 2008 (UTC)

To unhypotheticalize this, see , User:Ezekiel of Howdypedia/Sig and User:American_Eagle/sig. –xenocidic (talk) 16:00, 23 June 2008 (UTC)

So...MFD? –xenocidic (talk) 16:02, 23 June 2008 (UTC)

I'll support it. We can't let people circumvent the rules like that. The rules are there for a reason. J.delanoy_adds 16:04, 23 June 2008 (UTC)

I think it's flat out against policy and common sense, for reasons outlined here. – iridescent 16:24, 23 June 2008 (UTC)

MFD'd. –xenocidic (talk) 17:07, 23 June 2008 (UTC)

What do you make of this?

Gustavo Poyet

I recently cropped the image on this profile so it is solely Gustavo Poyet, as the image before had Gustavo and another guy. The owner of the original image keeps reverting it back as he wants to be in the picture with Gus, and keeps saying it looks amateur if we crop it. Misplaced Pages guidelines clearly say an image should not have 2 people in if possible, and the 3 topics on the talk page are all confused anon users asking why there is 2 people in the image. Could you please give me advice here before a revert war happens? Thanks. Jack?! 17:34, 23 June 2008 (UTC)

Not sure about the two people rule (makes sense, but it's broken everywhere). The cropped picture looks worse than no pic at all though, I'm afraid. First thing I think when looking at it is who is the other person in the pic and why are they cut out? Gwynand | Talk•Contribs 17:37, 23 June 2008 (UTC)

The second thing I think when I see it is, "this is arguably the most famous man in Uruguay and played for three of the most high profile teams in the world, how on earth don't we have more PD photos of him"? You might want to post at WP:FOOTBALL — there are bound to be some other people who've taken photos of him who won't mind releasing them. Incidentally, the third thing I think is "why is this article so short?" – iridescent 17:47, 23 June 2008 (UTC)

Could you please explain something to me?

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Subject too contentious for keeperpedia. –xenocidic (talk) 23:32, 23 June 2008 (UTC)

Hi there, could you please explain to me why you deleted my comments from Misplaced Pages talk:Requests for adminship/Epbr123 2 regarding the e-mails I received that purported to be him? Please offer your reply as soon as possible before I bring this to OTRS. Thank you. -- Joe Beaudoin Jr. 18:29, 23 June 2008 (UTC)

Please read two threads up. Posting private emails without permission from the sender ain't a great idea. Generally frowned on. You're an admin, you can still read them to your heart's delight. Epbr can too. There is no reason at all that I can think of to have that be public information for his protection and frankly yours. Do what you like with OTRS. Keeper | 76 | Disclaimer 18:32, 23 June 2008 (UTC)

Keeper, you're assuming that the e-mails came from him to begin with... which had been my initial question. (And the thing I was trying to determine.) If it is a fake, it should then be noted at the Foundation, even if they just file it away in some gods-forsaken folder somewhere. I'll begin a dialogue with them later today. Thank you for your prompt reply! -- Joe Beaudoin Jr. 18:40, 23 June 2008 (UTC)

To JBJ, was that the appropriate location to flag up such a discussion? Surely an understanding which could be reached on either the talk page of Epbr or on your talk page would have been more suitable. Rudget (logs) 18:34, 23 June 2008 (UTC)

He did post to Epbr's talkpage. Epbr reverted it. Keeper | 76 | Disclaimer 18:36, 23 June 2008 (UTC)

Apologies. Rudget (logs) 18:37, 23 June 2008 (UTC)

(edit conflict... arrgh!) :D As I noted in the now-deleted talk page, I attempted to e-mail him via Misplaced Pages, and then tried to communicate on his talk page (which he reverted, thus removing my comments). That's why I brought it to the talk page of the RfA... Sadly, had that information NOT been deleted, you could've understand my concerns. -- Joe Beaudoin Jr. 18:40, 23 June 2008 (UTC)

I am an admin, I read the brief e-mails (after reading this thread (not that I scan this page often, though) to and fro, I sadly omitted that detail from my memory. Rudget (logs) 18:43, 23 June 2008 (UTC)

(e/c)rudget's an admin, coulda/shoulda looked, simply didn't. As a compromise, I think you may have a valid concern, but I will not undelete (nor should anyone else) a private email, especially because you don't know if it is in fact from E123 or not. Summarize the concern, without the email information/addresses and without the text of the email. Or, get E123's permission (seems unlikely as he's deleted it from his talkpage). Keeper | 76 | Disclaimer 18:45, 23 June 2008 (UTC)

Just saw your response tucked in there, Joe, starting with Keeper, you're assuming. I encourage you to take up that dialogue. I would decide if it's really worth your efforts though, other than the impersonation issue. The email was a bit nasty and "rub your nose in it" style, but other than rude, rather harmless eh? Keeper | 76 | Disclaimer 18:48, 23 June 2008 (UTC)

That's not a problem. I'm happy that you've taken the time to discuss this with me, since it clears the air. :D Frankly, it is my belief that had Epbr simply given me some kind of answer, I wouldn't have had to go through this stuff... It does seem very ridiculous, no? All I want, really, is a "yes" or "no" answer. If no, then I would just let the foundation know and they can have something on record, so that there's a history of someone impersonating Epbr123 (in the event that such a thing gets to someone who is lawyer-happy). By the way, I must confess that I would be seriously disappointed if Epbr did send that e-mail, since it is extremely unbecoming (and a bit uncouth, as you've noted) for someone who was just appointed an administrative position on the English Misplaced Pages. And even if he did, I would assume he would be mature enough to admit to it and move on. Instead, you guys are wasting your time on this issue. And I'm sorry for that. :(

Anyway, I'll refactor my comments as you suggested when I get the time later today. Thank you folks for clearing the air! I am obliged. -- Joe Beaudoin Jr. 18:58, 23 June 2008 (UTC)

Uncouth. That was the word I was trying to find. Uncouth. Perfectly sums it up. Keeper | 76 | Disclaimer 19:02, 23 June 2008 (UTC)

My concern would be that it may be another example of the different standards applied to the behaviour of administrators and non-administrators. Harmless, perhaps, but a lethal weapon at an RfA. --Malleus Fatuorum (talk) 19:00, 23 June 2008 (UTC)

Oh, come now Malleus, you know very well that administrators are better. Keep in mind that higher standards goes both ways though. The higher you climb, the tougher the landing when you fall. Bad editing gets blocked, deleted. (so does some good editing) and the editor gets many many chances. Bad adminning gets the drama wheels a movin'. Keeper | 76 | Disclaimer 19:05, 23 June 2008 (UTC)

I believe that I agree with a comment I saw Tan make further up this page, about not having to act like a Fairy any longer. --Malleus Fatuorum (talk) 19:08, 23 June 2008 (UTC)

God, isn't that archived yet? It's a sad commentary on the state of RFA. Look at my contribs. The contrib right before this one sums up my feelings. Keeper | 76 | Disclaimer 19:10, 23 June 2008 (UTC)

Yes, it is archived. Enigma 19:58, 23 June 2008 (UTC)

"He has survived (mostly) intact two of the most hellish RFAs I've ever seen ...". More or less intact is about right; but this incident (you know the history) has severely dented my enthusiasm for the project. I guess everyone gets to a point where it just seems like a waste of time and effort sooner or later though. --Malleus Fatuorum (talk) 21:10, 23 June 2008 (UTC)
If this allegation against Epbr123 isn't properly dealt with, then I will be gone. --Malleus Fatuorum (talk) 22:01, 23 June 2008 (UTC)

Hello. Just saw this. What, iyo, does "properly dealt with" look like. Keeper | 76 | Disclaimer 22:04, 23 June 2008 (UTC)

It looks like not deleting the question that was asked, but instead answering it. If it turns out that the allegation is true, then Epbr123 should be desysoped. Properly dealt with doesn't mean ignoring it. --Malleus Fatuorum (talk) 22:13, 23 June 2008 (UTC)

Are you talking about me deleting the private email information or about epbr deleting the question from his own talkpage (I agree that looks bad in his case)...Keeper | 76 | Disclaimer 22:19, 23 June 2008 (UTC)

I'm talking about what Epbr123 did, not you. You did the right thing. Let's see whether Epbr123 can also do the right thing. --Malleus Fatuorum (talk) 22:21, 23 June 2008 (UTC)

<serious mode> The place for this is ANI (or even an email to the foundation), not Keeper's talkpage; talking about it here's no better than discussing it on Misplaced Pages Review. No-one here has access to the checkuser facilities, oversight powers & ability to cross-check user email accounts that would be needed to prove if this is (or isn't) Epbr123. (FWIW, while it's no secret that I'm no great fan of Epbr, I don't see anything worse than rudeness here.) – iridescent 22:21, 23 June 2008 (UTC)

Agreed. Egregious gloating, deserving of a trout. Never in a million years (right or wrong) would he be desysopped over a sloppy, crude email if it turned out to be him. I'll instantly regret supporting his rfa, I will have no respect for him. But he'll never be desysopped for one bad email. After the shit you've been through Malleus I would hope that isn't your straw/camel back. You need to go out on your own terms, in a blaze of glory. Keeper | 76 | Disclaimer 22:24, 23 June 2008 (UTC)

Let me be brutally frank. Epbr123 trashed my wikipedia career, and managed to persuade many others that I could not be trusted because of my alleged incivility. If he is allowed to remain an administrator after doing something far worse than I was blocked for only a few weeks ago, then I will be gone. There should be no difference in sending out that kind of email before or after an RfA. It would have killed the RfA, it should kill the subsequent sanctification. --Malleus Fatuorum (talk) 22:33, 23 June 2008 (UTC)

I expect nothing less than frankness from you Malleus. This needs to go off my talkpage, it isn't getting the right audience here. Ideas anyone? Keeper | 76 | Disclaimer 22:37, 23 June 2008 (UTC)

User talk:Giano II is the traditional place for arguments like this... Seriously, even though it's IMO a waste-of-space page, if things are getting this heated I'd suggest doing it "by the book" and posting at Misplaced Pages:Wikiquette alerts. I sincerely doubt it will do anyone any good to haul the whole thing in front of Arbcom or ANI. If you want "informal resolution", someone like SandyGeorgia or Karanacs, who all parties appear to at least grudgingly respect, might be able to administer appropriate bollockings. – iridescent 22:41, 23 June 2008 (UTC)

I've notified Epbr123 of this thread. This thread needs to get off my talkpage. Someone let me know where it lands. Malleus, go to bed. See you in the morning. Keeper | 76 | Disclaimer 22:44, 23 June 2008 (UTC)

Giggy might be a good mediator as well - he's familiar with everyone involved, and he knows even better than Malleus just how poisonous the combination of RFA and FAC can get. – iridescent 22:46, 23 June 2008 (UTC)

This is not the right place to burst my dam of grievances, I agree. Sorry Keeper. --Malleus Fatuorum (talk) 22:50, 23 June 2008 (UTC)

This should make you feel even worse. Go to bed Malleus before you reply to this thread. Let the sun go down on your anger and approach it in the morning with a fresh perspective. Pretty please...Keeper | 76 | Disclaimer 22:52, 23 June 2008 (UTC)

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Badger

Best quote ever. If there was a barnstar for making my eyes tear from laughter, I'd give it to you. You're Jesus for the week.--Koji†Dude 21:08, 23 June 2008 (UTC)

In that case, go and sin no more, adulterous woman....Keeper | 76 | Disclaimer 21:32, 23 June 2008 (UTC)

Aldulterous, perhaps, but woman? Nay, I say! Thoust talkist of nonsense, Jesus76!--Koji†Dude 22:22, 23 June 2008 (UTC)

Just trying to prove to you that I know a coupla Bibley things. Something 'bout throwin' rocks at sluts and stuff...Keeper | 76 | Disclaimer 22:25, 23 June 2008 (UTC)

Since your so smart.....:-p

Can you provide your insight on the discussion taking place here? Dusti 21:14, 23 June 2008 (UTC)

I read it very briefly, seems to be a good block. I would recommend you not adopting him or anyone else (don't you already have a couple of adoptees that are coming off blocks?), and it seems that what David is suggesting (email based editing) is better than adoption anyway. Keeper | 76 | Disclaimer 21:38, 23 June 2008 (UTC)

Believe me, I could tell you stories about adopting users coming off blocks... J.delanoy_adds 21:39, 23 June 2008 (UTC)

Really, JD? Do tell... – iridescent 21:43, 23 June 2008 (UTC)

Funny, Iridescent. I'm laughing. my latest fun *sigh* J.delanoy_adds 21:58, 23 June 2008 (UTC)

I think (in fact, I'm sure) he doesn't realise how close he came to an indefblock when he started fiddling with huggle/config. Thankfully, someone else has shouted at him first. – iridescent 22:02, 23 June 2008 (UTC)

Oh, that user. Yeah, great fun there Delanoy. Keeper | 76 | Disclaimer 22:03, 23 June 2008 (UTC)

I haven't seen it go well (in a formal sense) yet. Willing to be wrong. Keeper | 76 | Disclaimer 21:42, 23 June 2008 (UTC)

Just for the record, since you like to use it a lot... egregious. Tan | 39 22:31, 23 June 2008 (UTC)

dammit. I mean damned it. I knew that. I wonder what word I'm confusing it with? Aggravation? Agriculture? Agitated? Keeper | 76 | Disclaimer 22:33, 23 June 2008 (UTC)

Keeper, he was one that I had already offered adoption to, and I have two other adoptee's (Jagz and Sam at work). Dusti 23:17, 23 June 2008 (UTC)

Dusti, I still say let David do whatever he has offered to do before you step in with adoption. Two is enough, regardless of how you came about them. Keeper | 76 | Disclaimer 23:34, 23 June 2008 (UTC)

Does Keeper need some advil? Dusti

Nah, the whiskey is working just fine. :-) *hic!* Keeper | 76 | Disclaimer 23:43, 23 June 2008 (UTC)

can you share that? Dusti 01:03, 24 June 2008 (UTC)

Nope. You're only 18. And in Indiana. Don't feel like going to jail over you, no offense. Keeper | 76 | Disclaimer 01:06, 24 June 2008 (UTC)

I could be lying about my age hehe lol, GRRRR Dusti 01:22, 24 June 2008 (UTC)

Why are you linking to an indef blocked sockpuppeter? I don't get it? Keeper | 76 | Disclaimer 01:25, 24 June 2008 (UTC)

<colon farm> He was claiming to be a pretty young kid, nevermind.....Dusti 01:30, 24 June 2008 (UTC)

However...

You have (temporarily) won the battle against your other pet peeve... – iridescent 23:36, 23 June 2008 (UTC)

Irid, I've been online for 8 fucking hours. What the hell does your message mean? Spell it. Keeper | 76 | Disclaimer 23:37, 23 June 2008 (UTC)

Huggle has just been deactivated. – iridescent 23:43, 23 June 2008 (UTC)

Good. At least, "good until Gurch comes back". I'm terrified of huggle. Similarly to any trained attack dog, It Needs Its Owner To Be Effective -- Keeper | 76 | Disclaimer 23:44, 23 June 2008 (UTC)

It appears that Gurch will not be returning to Misplaced Pages. Useight (talk) 00:39, 24 June 2008 (UTC)

Meh. He's said that before. I'll believe it when I see it. Keeper | 76 | Disclaimer 00:41, 24 June 2008 (UTC)

Lasted 52 minutes. Apparently, a highly complex tool that took a skilled programmer hundreds of hours to create and maintain, can be handled just as well by a gaggle of Misplaced Pages's squabbling admin-wannabes, led by someone who boasted in his RFA of his "best contribution" being a cut-and-paste copyvio of another site. The more I see of the way this place is going, the more tempted I get to head over to Special:AllPages and hit d-batch. – iridescent 00:43, 24 June 2008 (UTC)

<--Okie dokie. Everyone needs to go to fucking bed right fucking now. Monday has ended, it has been a shitty day on Keeperpedia. Go to fucking bed. Sorry for the language, but I want everyone to leave this page the fuck alone. For 12-24 hours anyway. Cheers, Keeper | 76 | Disclaimer 00:45, 24 June 2008 (UTC)

Whaaaat, it can't be restored and you can't be off to bed Iridescent after I just left you this! Metros (talk) 00:55, 24 June 2008 (UTC)

Sorry Keeper, didn't see the angered note above... whoops.Metros (talk) 00:56, 24 June 2008 (UTC)

Tis Okay. Already replied at Irid's talk anywho....Nighty night! Keeper | 76 | Disclaimer 00:57, 24 June 2008 (UTC)

Metros said "...and you can't be off to bed Iridescent..." Enigma 15:52, 24 June 2008 (UTC)

?

I'm just wondering why you did that on the archived page? --Caspian blue (talk) 01:39, 24 June 2008 (UTC)

I did that because there is no way in hell that I would support said user in a request for adminship, and I want it to be known that I've (at least) attempted to strike my own vote. (it's been reverted twice at this point....) Keeper | 76 | Disclaimer 01:41, 24 June 2008 (UTC)

Sine you're an admin, your edit is more conspicuous than other ordinary editors, so I just had a little curiosity. Well, I guess you're upset at him for some good reason, but you could've raised an related issue to AN/I or other place as you always do. Anyway, having a cold cup of ice tea would make you feel better in this hot day. Good night.--Caspian blue (talk) 01:50, 24 June 2008 (UTC)

Oh, I get it now and fully understand your unusual action. Wow,........... how foolish I was to believe that people can be changed soon.--Caspian blue (talk) 02:15, 24 June 2008 (UTC)

"Fuck"

Click this link, and go do something else. You need it. giggy _(:O) 01:45, 24 June 2008 (UTC)

Excellent advice. CYA. Gone til at least tomorrow...Keeper | 76 | Disclaimer 01:48, 24 June 2008 (UTC)

Yer feisty lately! Tan | 39 15:50, 24 June 2008 (UTC)

an apparently much needed laugh for you...

The following discussion is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section.

since the world appears to have imploded after I went off line yesterday. Listening to sports radio on the way in this morning and they're talking about the All Star ballots and what not. This wasn't local sports radio so we can't blame it on NY non-knowledge but Joe Mauer's new name is apparently "Moo-er". They compared him with other Minnesota unpronouncables, including Hrbek and Chuck Knoblauch, neither of whom I found to be unpronouncable. _{TravellingCari} 12:26, 24 June 2008 (UTC)

Wow... my wife is five days late now and I thought we were frustrated... what in the hell happened last night? And before anyone answers that... don't, it's just an expression, I read everything. The only thing that's made me that angry is the new Coldplay song, how lame it is, and the fact that somehow it's a number 1 hit. Oh well. Gwynand | Talk•Contribs 12:38, 24 June 2008 (UTC)

I tried to read it, and then my head exploded so I went to Starbucks. I highly suggest it. I only know one song by Coldplay, I didn't like it and its overplayed. My radio ignorance is a good thing at times, iPod on my walk from the train. That and I'm a country girl at heart and NYC lost its country station more than five years ago. _{TravellingCari} 12:53, 24 June 2008 (UTC)

I just listened to Coldplay on facebook and ewwww :( Dusti 13:01, 24 June 2008 (UTC)

I tweaked the keeperpedia instructions - they were getting too long. p.s. "fuckshit" was epic. i'm sure you'll say that on your first really dirty diaper where you realize that baby wipes won't be effective and call for your wife to give the baby a bath. –xenocidic (talk) 13:04, 24 June 2008 (UTC)

I'm diggin it. Well guys, as much as I hate to say it, I gotta go for a few, a lucky college student has to go take his rigorous summer class....fitness walking. Please, pray for me :-p Dusti 13:06, 24 June 2008 (UTC)

Wait, you know what else annoys me? The amount of paternity leave that American men get. Because the amount is zero. We get zero additional days for the birth of a child. Meanwhile, Tony Blair gets a few weeks off from being the leader of Britain. Gwynand | Talk•Contribs 13:09, 24 June 2008 (UTC)

Hrm, in Canada you get 1 year for parental leave and it can be split anyway you like it between the two parental units. –xenocidic (talk) 13:11, 24 June 2008 (UTC)

I voted for Moo-er: one of the Twins' minor league teams is about 40 minutes from where I live.

I am also disgusted with the new coldplay. I liked Clocks a lot more. Fix You was kind of creepy...Shapiros10 _{My work} 13:15, 24 June 2008 (UTC)

OKAY, I'm gonna give this a go here. One big fat reply :-) I like the new coldplay song. Moo-er is leading the allstar balloting for catchers, no small feat for a "minor league team". His name is way easier to say than Dugmen-CAVE-itch. Gwynand, you must be going out of your mind, I feel for ya brother. The first few days' diapers are the worst, it's called Meconium and your wife will be layed up in a hosp. bed and you'll hafta dig in Warning! If you have a weak stomach or a strong gag reflex, that blue link has truly awful pictures... Dusti? A Ball State man? Somehow, that seems appropriate. Enjoy your walking. Xeno, I don't get the "fuckshit" comment or what its referring to, but thanks for fixing the header. Also, parental leave is overrated. You do realize babies cry all the freekin time right? W(hy)TH would I wanna stay home? I very much enjoyed leaving the house. (I don't mean this to sound as sexist as it probably does - my wife and equal partner enjoys leaving the house too. We are getting much better about not both leaving at the same time :-) Whew! Think I got em all. Keeper | 76 | Disclaimer 14:44, 24 June 2008 (UTC)

Keeper, that seems like the largest post you've ever done here....Are you feeling ok? :-) LOL Dusti 14:46, 24 June 2008 (UTC)

(reply to keep) I'm saying that i voted for him because a minor league team that he played on is 40 minutes from me. Actually, Violet Hill is probably the best song off of Viva la Shit trying to be passed on as music. Shapiros10 _{My work} 14:47, 24 June 2008 (UTC)

You know it's gonna be an interesting day when you're already getting Whiskey links at 9:45 in the morning....Keeper | 76 | Disclaimer 14:48, 24 June 2008 (UTC)

And Shap, I know, I kid. I call all "small market" teams "minor league teams". For a small market team, with an inherently smaller fanbase, to get anybody to the top of the balloting is no small feat. Keeper | 76 | Disclaimer 14:49, 24 June 2008 (UTC)

(already 3x edit conflict)Hey Keep. Fuckshit was likely referring to my edit summary from earlier this morning (look in the history). Oh, and I wasn't talking about Violet Hill, but Viva la Vida, which is now the #1 song in America, and sucks. Yes, I am going out of my mind, but it seems like that is going around recently anyways :) Gwynand | Talk•Contribs 14:48, 24 June 2008 (UTC)

Haven't heard that song yet. Gonna go find it...is that the one they have on all the ridiculous commercials? ...Keeper | 76 | Disclaimer 14:51, 24 June 2008 (UTC)

It may be number one, but I work in a radio station and there is no way that I would let that song air. Dusti 14:52, 24 June 2008 (UTC)

Re fuckshit: see this edit summary. And, agree - F parental leave. I don't even play hookey from work anymore because I know I'll just get roped into some kindof daddy duty. –xenocidic (talk) 14:55, 24 June 2008 (UTC)

Yeah, thats the one. It goes like this: "whoooooOOOOOOOOOOOoooooooaaaaaaaohhhhhhhhhhhhhh, waaaaaaaaOOOOOOOOOOOOOaaahhhhohhhhhhhhhhhhh". Gwynand | Talk•Contribs 14:56, 24 June 2008 (UTC)

LOL. Gwynand you are close to snapping :-) Wanna do your RFA now? You're just about batshit insane enough to wanna be an admin instead of a wannabe admin...:-) And that was a hilarious edit summary, just found it :-) Keeper | 76 | Disclaimer 14:57, 24 June 2008 (UTC)

Might look bad if I disappear in the middle of it... but I'm getting closer to "might as well just do it", after recent frustrations on inability to protect certain articles or viewing deleted history. Gwynand | Talk•Contribs 15:02, 24 June 2008 (UTC)

For those of you who would like to see, Gwynand just got a "special" barnstar :) Dusti 15:04, 24 June 2008 (UTC)

Gwynard, I'd suggest looking up Kids Rock on youtube (I'd give you a link but firewalls prevent me), as well as looking at the Internet Theory on Penny Arcade (webcomic). Enjoy :)Gazimoff _Read 15:07, 24 June 2008 (UTC)

• Maybe someone can explain this to me: why are there 3 red RFAs still running? I tried to poke around and see if they had requested they run regardless but didn't find anything. –xenocidic (talk) 15:46, 24 June 2008 (UTC)
  • I was thinking the same thing... I've never seen such a long, non-green RfA bar. Gwynand | Talk•Contribs 15:48, 24 June 2008 (UTC)
    • Maybe they just started 1-2-3 days ago. Shapiros10 _{My work} 15:50, 24 June 2008 (UTC)
      • When they've gotten this far, it's because they refuse to withdraw. I personally asked one to withdraw, but they weren't interested. None of the three has a chance in hell of passing, but if they insist on seeing it through to the end, that's what'll happen, I guess. Enigma 15:57, 24 June 2008 (UTC)
        • Dear God, this really is ANI/AN/WT:RFA/VPP/AIV. Post on Keepers page, that's how you'll get prompt attention. And yes Tan, I'm feeling fiesty. I'm on the sunny side of my RFA and apparently that means I'm allowed to say or do whatever the hell I want. Keeper | 76 | Disclaimer 15:59, 24 June 2008 (UTC)
          • • heh, I just didn't think it was important enough for WT:RFA. –xenocidic (talk) 16:44, 24 June 2008 (UTC)

Indeed! All hail the Keeper! Shapiros10 _{My work} 16:01, 24 June 2008 (UTC)

You just tripped my gag reflex with that Sam. Ick. Keeper | 76 | Disclaimer 16:02, 24 June 2008 (UTC)

What, the signature? Shapiros10 _{My work} 16:08, 24 June 2008 (UTC)

Yes. The signature. No, not the signature. Keeper | 76 | Disclaimer 16:09, 24 June 2008 (UTC)

What, pray tell? I'm a little confused. Shapiros10 _{My work} 16:11, 24 June 2008 (UTC)

sigh. shoo. Keeper | 76 | Disclaimer 16:12, 24 June 2008 (UTC)

I hope this is better. If you really want to strangle stupid, bad Shapiros10 now, I'll leave =

Sorry Sam, I'm just cranky. I don't have a problem with your old signature. Keeper | 76 | Disclaimer 16:22, 24 June 2008 (UTC)

It's ok Keep. Whever you're cranky, remember you can always have a sip of this iced tea.

Am I allowed to add anything to it? Something to make it worthy of one of those little umbrellas? Keeper | 76 | Disclaimer 16:27, 24 June 2008 (UTC)

Look over here. Shapiros10 _{My work} 16:30, 24 June 2008 (UTC)

I was thinking something a little more adultish. But berries are nice I guess...Keeper | 76 | Disclaimer 16:33, 24 June 2008 (UTC)

I'm not qualified to add any liquor. Ask Tan, Gwynad, Dusti, Xeno etc. I think that i'm your only juvenile TPS! Shapiros10 _{My work} 16:34, 24 June 2008 (UTC)

Juvenile is an attitude, not an age. I'm juvenile, with a valid ID. Keeper | 76 | Disclaimer 16:35, 24 June 2008 (UTC)

'Ere. Tan | 39 16:36, 24 June 2008 (UTC)

Tasty! And on a serious note, don't ever ever ever ever start smoking. Quitting was one of the most ridiculously difficult things I've ever done. I miss them everyday, which is embarassing. You here me Sam and the rest of you youngin's? Don't ever start. Keeper | 76 | Disclaimer 16:41, 24 June 2008 (UTC)

Tan, you keep coming up with the weirdest images!

I linked a really gross one on LaraLove's talk. Check it out if you haven't eaten in the last couple of days. Shapiros10 _{My work} 16:39, 24 June 2008 (UTC)

My dad quit too. I promise to you Keeper that i will never smoke. Shapiros10 _{My work} 16:43, 24 June 2008 (UTC)

IP making a death threat

I took this to ANI, but they seem to be running slow today on reading, and the actual post was made at AIV, I really kinda wish I was an Admin in this type of situation....Here's the link Dusti 15:09, 24 June 2008 (UTC)

Dime a dozen. Already blocked. Next! Keeper | 76 | Disclaimer 15:14, 24 June 2008 (UTC)

I disagree with the block length, look at this Dusti 15:17, 24 June 2008 (UTC)

It's a dynamic IP. It will be reassigned to someone else's computer within days. That particular person is long gone, will show up somewhere else, and will get blocked again. Not much else to see here. Keeper | 76 | Disclaimer 15:36, 24 June 2008 (UTC)

Request to restore deleted article for "David Crais", (the Haiku version will come later)

Dear Keeper 76, You gave me an "A7" Deletion for 'not a notable bio' and 'real person'. I submitted the article "David Crais" due to the fact that I have received media attention through several articles, radio reports, and television interviews I have been asked to appear on lately. While I'm not Bill Gates, or even Paris Hilton, I am somewhat of a public figure...in a tiny, tiny way. I tried to included mulitple third party published references in my article. Of course, others can put whatever they'd like in the content. I just wanted to provide what I could, the good, bad, and ugly. It is not a self promoting piece. I just provided a bio as written by a third party. The reference links I put in the article I just copied from a Google search (maybe some would say a 'vanity search') and listed several of articles written about me from regional and national newspapers and other publications. Please consider this and restore the article. Although not written in your prefered three lines and seventeen syllables, I would appreciate your consideration on this. Regards, DCraiss (talk) 16:43, 24 June 2008 (UTC)

I will be replying on your talk page shortly David. Regards, Keeper | 76 | Disclaimer 16:46, 24 June 2008 (UTC)

DCraiss (talk) 16:50, 24 June 2008 (UTC)

? Keeper | 76 | Disclaimer 16:56, 24 June 2008 (UTC)

Misplaced Pages:Articles for deletion/Skybox

Hi, would you take a second look at your close, please? The DMB mess has been cleaned up but the original article that was proposed for deletion, was moved to Skybox (band), and this still needs to be dealt with (I would argue that the case has been made for deletion). TerriersFan (talk) 17:32, 24 June 2008 (UTC)

Hmm. It looked to me like the article about the band was cleaned up and referenced, and the nominator withdrew. I woulnd't have a problem with DRV though, that AFD was messy and now that everything's in the right place, the band article can be more properly discussed. Keeper | 76 | Disclaimer 18:17, 24 June 2008 (UTC)

Ah, I see; yes you are right. I'll leave things as they are. TerriersFan (talk) 18:29, 24 June 2008 (UTC)

Caillou: Boris IS a buffoon.

Excuse me, but why did you delete my refinement of the Caillou entry? I changed the entry regarding his father Boris from "He is silly" to "He is a buffoon" as per this definition:

buf·foon Audio Help /bəˈfun/ Pronunciation Key - Show Spelled Pronunciation Pronunciation Key - Show IPA Pronunciation –noun 1. a person who amuses others by tricks, jokes, odd gestures and postures, etc.

I watch the show every day with my son, and as such am more than qualified to make this adjustment. Get off of your high horse. My definition is more accurate. Have you sat through hundreds of hours of the same Caillou footage over and over again? I think not. I'm changing it back. Learn how to use a dictionary.

Nick Myers —Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.184.121.4 (talk) 20:36, 24 June 2008 (UTC)

Well aren't you pleasant. Let me climb down off my horse, I can barely hear you from up here... excuse me a second...ok. There! My son hates Caillou. He prefers Teletubbies, Thomas and Friends, the sprout "happy happy birthday" song and clucky chicken, and Elmo. I hate them all, they are drivel. Mind numbing. I can feel myself gittin' stupider and stupider watching them. But he loves them, and I love him...meanwhile SportCenter is getting neglected. Change it to buffoon, I don't care. It won't last long. The other definition of buffoon carries a derogatory tone, and you know it. How 'bout a compromise? Maybe not silly, definitely not buffoon. Any suggestions? Clownish? Jocular? Your thoughts? Keeper | 76 | Disclaimer 20:42, 24 June 2008 (UTC)

Hi Keeper, funny stuff (Kek here). This reminds me of the teaching/parenting advice that you don't say "Tommy is a bad boy" but rather "Tommy did a bad thing." Separate the action from the person - the same way we never personally attack others here :) Anyway, at least to soften it - how about "so and so is buffoon-like." Or to follow my own advice, "behaves in a buffoon-like way." Just a thought. 72.92.4.157 (talk) 21:28, 24 June 2008 (UTC) ps...you still don't miss the classroom?

Buffoon Synonyms: bozo, buffo, clown, comedian, comic, fool, harlequin, humorist, idiot, jerk, jester, joker, merry-andrew, mime, mimic, mummer, playboy, prankster, ridicule, stooge, wag, wit, zany. 72.92.4.157 (talk) 21:41, 24 June 2008 (UTC)

Well hey there Kek! How've you been? (and no, I don't miss the classroom, even though I'd be on summer vacay right now... :-) Keeper | 76 | Disclaimer 21:53, 24 June 2008 (UTC)

re: the cartoons -- such an age gap -- when I graduated last month we wore purple. I said Grimace and Grape Ape, my younger classmates said Barney :( I miss Cartoon Express _{TravellingCari} 21:47, 24 June 2008 (UTC)

I'm sooooo glad my son dislikes Barney. Soooo glad. Keeper | 76 | Disclaimer 21:53, 24 June 2008 (UTC)

Hi Keeper - it's good here in PA - hope you get out on your brother's boat this summer. My all-time favorite is still Bugs Bunny (and the Warner Bros crowd); better than the Disney characters - I mean who's funnier Daffy Duck or Donald Duck? No contest. And the new stuff - I really don't get at all - seems so bland. So "safe." 72.92.4.157 (talk) 21:57, 24 June 2008 (UTC)

A cartoon isn't a cartoon unless someone is getting an anvil to the face. I agree. Too bland, too safe. Everyone explicitly does not love everyone else in the real world, but heck are cartoons say they do. Cartoon characters should be hunting wabbits, not hugging. Keeper | 76 | Disclaimer 22:06, 24 June 2008 (UTC)

Yeah and sending away to the ACME Company for large devices to catch the roadrunner. And there is actually a possibility that the roadrunner may get injured. Oh my. Could the children stand it? We survived the 3 Stooges without smashing each other on the head - well at least not lethally. 72.92.4.157 (talk) 22:13, 24 June 2008 (UTC)

I loved Arthur when i was little. Then I found out our TV had other channels than PBS. Shapiros10 _{My work} 22:01, 24 June 2008 (UTC)

Is Caillou that cartoon with the little girl who has cancer? Gwynand | Talk•Contribs 22:08, 24 June 2008 (UTC)

No, Caillou is the little canadian kid. Shapiros10 _{My work} 22:13, 24 June 2008 (UTC)

Right, from Quebec, and isn't she on Chemo? She's bald right? Gwynand | Talk•Contribs 22:14, 24 June 2008 (UTC)

"Caillou - A 4-year-old boy who throughout the series is fascinated by the world around him and guided through it by friends and family." - You've got to be shitting me. Gwynand | Talk•Contribs 22:17, 24 June 2008 (UTC)

Little kids love the dumbest shit. trust me, I watched that show. And look where I ended up. Shapiros10 _{My work} 22:18, 24 June 2008 (UTC)

Sam, that's the funniest quote of the day. Thanks for the chuckle :-) Keeper | 76 | Disclaimer 22:20, 24 June 2008 (UTC)

Keep, that just made my day! And two users called me "the man"!

Just thought: Caillou and Ren and Stimpy parody! Now that was a good cartoon from what i've heard (it was on before I was born). Shapiros10 _{My work} 22:21, 24 June 2008 (UTC)

Family Guy is my new favorite cartoon - used to be Simpsons. 72.92.4.157 (talk) 22:40, 24 June 2008 (UTC)

Family Guy is friggin sweet. Go Quohog. Simpsons is lame (he said in danger of a massive flame war...). Kek, you should get another username instead of IP. Our "history" is bygones. Keeper | 76 | Disclaimer 22:42, 24 June 2008 (UTC)

You're right I should get a new username. Simpson's lame? It is getting a little long in the tooth but groudbreaking in its day - no? 72.92.4.157 (talk) 22:53, 24 June 2008 (UTC)

Let me know when you do get a new name. And early Simpsons=genius, agreed. The Monorail episode is by far the best, and the one where U2 performs (Homer is a garbage man in it I think...) It needs to die though. The movie sealed the coffin for me. Horrible. Keeper | 76 | Disclaimer 22:56, 24 June 2008 (UTC)

I will let you know my new username. And agreed the Simpson's movie was a mistake - unlike the South Park movie with the great song at the end "Blame Canada" - no offense to our friendly neighbors to the north. 72.92.4.157 (talk) 23:33, 24 June 2008 (UTC)

I sneak Family Guy over teh interwebs when i'm home alone. Shapiros10 _{My work} 22:44, 24 June 2008 (UTC)

I love that show and can't believe they get away with it all - hence the special warning at the beginning - which tells me to pay special attention - something good is coming. 72.92.4.157 (talk) 22:55, 24 June 2008 (UTC)

The full version of the one with U2 is still banned here for containing the word "wanker". – iridescent 23:05, 24 June 2008 (UTC)

Tis a shame. Wanker means different things in different places....and I'm pretty sure that's twice this week that you've talked about wanking on my talk page...hmmm...first it was the links to naughty pix, now wanker references. Starting to wonder 'bout you Iridescent...Keeper | 76 | Disclaimer 23:08, 24 June 2008 (UTC)

And we don't get Family Guy here so I'm blissfully unaware of what you're talking about. Anyway, everyone knows the best Simpsons episode was the burlesque house one. – iridescent 23:12, 24 June 2008 (UTC)

That's a good one - also like the one when where Homer gets really sick from trying to finish a really old sandwhich. Family Guy has to be coming your way eventually. "Family Guy was canceled once in 2000, and again in 2002, but strong DVD sales and the large viewership of reruns on Cartoon Network's Adult Swim convinced Fox to resume the show in 2005. It is the first canceled show to be resurrected based on DVD sales and the only one to be resurrected twice on that basis." The creator of Family Guy, Seth MacFarlane almost died on 9/11 but just missed his plane. 72.92.4.157 (talk) 23:30, 24 June 2008 (UTC)

We do get Family Guy here, I often watch it. It's on one of the digital channels, can't remember which one. --Malleus Fatuorum (talk) 23:32, 24 June 2008 (UTC)

We get it here as well, but I've never seen it. I'm odd when it comes to TV -- people obsessed over Seinfeld and Friends and I just didn't get it. I watch YES which is the Yankees' channel, Game Show Network and a channel that picks up Fujisankei Variety which I miss from Japan. And yes we get ~900 channels and I watch those plus the main CBS/NBC etc. I'm a poor pop culture specimen. I have Pepsi Points from Amazon and free mp3s -- no idea what to do with them. _{TravellingCari} 23:51, 24 June 2008 (UTC)

(to Malleus) I'm old school - I view any channel with a number higher than 3 with deep suspicion. – iridescent 23:55, 24 June 2008 (UTC)

For you British folks - are you familiar with a comedy show "William & Mary"? It was recommended to me and is available here in US via Netflix. Also there is Canadian show called "Trailer Park Boys" (I think) - any Canadians recommend that one? I heard of that through a friend. 72.92.4.157 (talk) 00:00, 25 June 2008 (UTC)

Never heard of it. Although if you know anything about it, its article truly sucks at the moment. – iridescent 00:07, 25 June 2008 (UTC)

You're right. I don't know anything about either show but, The Trailer Park Boys article is excellent. Maybe I should take a chance on that show first. 72.92.4.157 (talk) 00:15, 25 June 2008 (UTC)

Well, I haven't been quite the same since I caught Fred Flintstone smoking cigarettes: Ecoleetage (talk) 00:24, 25 June 2008 (UTC)

That was excellent. I should remember that but must be a few years too young to recall it. Thanks. 72.92.4.157 (talk) 00:31, 25 June 2008 (UTC)

Damn corporate computers. I can't see youtube from here. Bastards. (corporate, not you guys...) Keeper | 76 | Disclaimer 00:32, 25 June 2008 (UTC)

Mental note to view these later Keeper. I sometimes have nightmares about what Peter did to Yogi Bear on one episode of Family Guy . 72.92.4.157 (talk) 00:37, 25 June 2008 (UTC)

Sigh...another link I can't see. If Keeper ever disappears, it's because corporate finally caught on that Misplaced Pages is as bad/worse than youtube, etal...Keeper | 76 | Disclaimer 00:38, 25 June 2008 (UTC)

Actually, if you want seriously warped animation, consider Walt Disney's weirdest cartoon: . This used to be a standard in schools for many years. Ecoleetage (talk) 00:44, 25 June 2008 (UTC)

Okay, that's three links in a row that I can't see. STOP IT! Cruelty knows no bounds?!?!?!? Keeper | 76 | Disclaimer 00:45, 25 June 2008 (UTC)

Doesn't come close to being Disney's weirdest cartoon. – iridescent 00:48, 25 June 2008 (UTC)

Oh, I don't know. It appears my choice was the first time a certain "V" word was ever used in a film. Who would have thought Uncle Walt was so salty? Ecoleetage (talk) 00:50, 25 June 2008 (UTC)

If the money was right..........72.92.4.157 (talk) 00:55, 25 June 2008 (UTC)

Victrola? Vampire? Variance? Volvo? Dammit! Links I can't get to, and now ambiguous posts. Keeper | 76 | Disclaimer 00:56, 25 June 2008 (UTC)

Hey Keeper, even in Minn. time - when do you get to go home? 72.92.4.157 (talk) 00:57, 25 June 2008 (UTC)

I would say Volvo is the closest synonym of that bunch. Ecoleetage (talk) 00:58, 25 June 2008 (UTC)

(to kek)You're kinda creepin' me out with the things you know/remember about me. I'm going home soon...no, haven't been on my bro's boat yet, and no I don't miss the classroom...Anything else? Keeper | 76 | Disclaimer 00:59, 25 June 2008 (UTC)

Sorry, I'll try and work on that dementia. I get cranky too at the end of the work day - more of a morning person. Up at 5:30 a.m. everyday. I won't mind if you remember that. 72.92.4.157 (talk) 01:05, 25 June 2008 (UTC)

The irony of course is that I'm not cranky ATM. Perfectly cheerful. I was however very cranky yesterday, and this morning. Keeper | 76 | Disclaimer 01:07, 25 June 2008 (UTC

We discussed boating because you live in the land of 10,000 lakes and I grew up in a boating family; and my mother and sister were both teachers at one time so I guess that's why I remember that - who knows - I remember some shit and forget other shit. I don't work for the Feds - promise. 72.92.4.157 (talk) 01:14, 25 June 2008 (UTC) (now about that 2006 tax return.......)

LOL! If you only knew what I just got in the mail from the IRS regarding my '06 return. One of the joys of being a business owner/CEO is that little letter that says I underpaid by 14 grand in '06. My accountant is on unpaid overtime ATM. (and now you have something else for your memory bank...  :-) Keeper | 76 | Disclaimer 01:16, 25 June 2008 (UTC)

Wow, that's a trip. Sorry to hear it. That really sucks. Maybe time for new CPA? Hey, if you're the boss, you can enable YouTube - but just on YOUR PC. So you were just kidding about possibly losing access to Wiki. That's cool. Don't blow your cover. I sometimes wonder how people can spend so much time on Wiki during the day. I'm self employed too. 72.92.4.157 (talk) 01:22, 25 June 2008 (UTC)

Nah, I've got an excellent accountant. He's a New Yorker (props to TCari here, for some reason, New Yorkers seem to make good accountants!....) And don't worry 'bout my cover. I've left enough dusty trails to throw anyone off. Heck, I'm perty sure I don't even have a brother, let alone a brother with a boat or do I??? Keeper | 76 | Disclaimer 01:43, 25 June 2008 (UTC)

Very "cloak and dagger." 72.92.4.157 (talk) 10:22, 25 June 2008 (UTC)

KT:RFA

Do you see a pattern?

Gwynand, you ought run, now! –xenocidic (talk) 00:25, 25 June 2008 (UTC)

That box looks like Christmas. Just need to put a shiny star on top. Keeper | 76 | Disclaimer 00:31, 25 June 2008 (UTC)

Two more and we've got ourselves a senyera. – iridescent 00:32, 25 June 2008 (UTC)

OK! Here are my answers. 1. I'm gonna block people. 2. I'm a top 5 editor to Keeperpedia. 3. I'm never wrong in any argument. OK lets go, lets get about 7 or 8 nominations first though, at least 2 of them crats. Gwynand | Talk•Contribs 00:35, 25 June 2008 (UTC)

I'll add a stern warning on the top that if anyone opposes it will result in an indef block and accusations of canvassing, socking, and all around no-goodedness. Your wife not popped yet, aye? Keeper | 76 | Disclaimer 00:37, 25 June 2008 (UTC)

No, she's sitting next to me right now, miserable. Gwynand | Talk•Contribs 00:40, 25 June 2008 (UTC)

Promise that if you win, you'll name it Jimbo. Even if it's a girl. – iridescent 00:40, 25 June 2008 (UTC)

Oh, I want a higher position to do that. Get flown out to Cali, like Essjay did. Gwynand | Talk•Contribs 00:41, 25 June 2008 (UTC)

Full name: Jimbo Anne Gwynand. Keeper | 76 | Disclaimer 00:42, 25 June 2008 (UTC)

Speaking of inappropriate images, I found this image to convey my feelings to someone my age flirting with LaraLove. This guy "blew chunks of his own"!

And Tanathalas told me of an image on Google images without safesearch called "mountain dew fisting". Lol! Shapiros10 _{My work} 00:48, 25 June 2008 (UTC)

Sam, don't make me give you a lecture on WP:EL... – iridescent 00:58, 25 June 2008 (UTC)

Sorry iri, just kidding around. Won't be blowing and chunks around again :) I hope you'll be a good admin and see me for my inner lulz. Shapiros10 _{My work} 01:14, 25 June 2008 (UTC)

• I was also struck by the pattern, and came to the Keeper Cooler to discuss it, but I discovered that someone had already brought it up! Enigma 02:19, 25 June 2008 (UTC)

I'm just awed by the colors. It's like Halloween. Wisdom89 _{(T / )} 02:26, 25 June 2008 (UTC)

Re

This, I'm personally satisfied that that's enough of an apology, given that Joe's happy with it.

Feel free to delete this once you've read it (it's a pain you not enabling email...) – iridescent 01:42, 25 June 2008 (UTC)

I'm giving it 24 hours. And the irony of course being that email is what started this whole mess, I'm not about to enable it now. If Malleus accepts the "apology" and the "move forward", then I will too. Until then... Keeper | 76 | Disclaimer 02:02, 25 June 2008 (UTC)

I don't. There was a promise made to be open to AOR. I don't trust Epbr123, and I know from personal experience how vindictive he can be. --Malleus Fatuorum (talk) 02:21, 25 June 2008 (UTC)

That's enough for me to keep on. I'm going offline in a bit here, but I'm willing to co-certify an RFC, or official recall. Keeper | 76 | Disclaimer 02:24, 25 June 2008 (UTC)

I'd go along with SandyG's idea of "file this away but if you ever do anything like this again ...", but only if Epbr123 fulfills his promise to be open to recall. --Malleus Fatuorum (talk) 02:25, 25 June 2008 (UTC)

EPBR123 has already done enough to make me edit his archived RFa to the point of being chastised by another admin. I will also "file this away", but only if Epbr adds himself to CAT:AOR. He said he would, he hasn't. 5 freeking admins, and a slew of editors, have asked him to recall himself based on his email. If I were him, I'd be turning in my admin bit. He has proven nothing to me by his apparent apathy other than he was gunning for adminship for the sake of adminship all along, and I fully and completely regret supporting his RFA#2. I could fucking care less if he apologizes to Joe and Joe accepts it. He should not have the toolset that allows him to block/protect/delete. If any of this info came to light pre-rfa#2, there isn't a chance in a pig-flying frozen hell that he'd pass RFA. He should give up his admin bit and go back to being an editor. Sigh. I need to go offline, but I'll pick this up again in the am...Keeper | 76 | Disclaimer 02:30, 25 June 2008 (UTC)

(outdent) I'll also go along with Sandy's point about "file this away but if you ever do anything like this again ...", but, like Malleus, I do think he needs to show by his words and actions, that he can be trusted, which means fulfilling his promise made during is RfA to make himself open to recall. Furthermore, I think the criteria and process adopted should be scrutinized to see whether there is a reasonable chance that any repeat of this recent behaviour could result in a successful bid to remove his tools (i.e., no overly elaborate and restrictive criteria or process.)  DDStretch  (talk) 08:02, 25 June 2008 (UTC)

You may find interesting

Ohai. I just thought you would find it interesting for you to read this. I'll be on a wikibreak, so you may not get a reply for a few days. Cheers, RyRy5 (talk) 10:59, 25 June 2008 (UTC)

Misplaced Pages:Requests for adminship/Ryan

I apologise for the earlier conflict here. Perhaps we can reach some agreement on such debate? Cheers, and good morning (etc.). :-) --Mizu onna sango15/ 14:16, 25 June 2008 (UTC).

Apology accepted and returned. I was a bit crusty last night. Keeper | 76 | Disclaimer 14:18, 25 June 2008 (UTC)

Rather same for myself. Have a nice day. --Mizu onna sango15/ 14:21, 25 June 2008 (UTC)

I think something is wrong with my talkpage

After I did the archiving, its.....blank :( Dusti 15:01, 25 June 2008 (UTC)

One of these days I just might blank mine...might crash the servers though to try to restore it...Keeper | 76 | Disclaimer 15:04, 25 June 2008 (UTC)

 Done Fixed. –xenocidic (talk) 15:05, 25 June 2008 (UTC)

Oh the joy of the Misplaced Pages Chatroom :) I guess my IT Director at ISSCH was right, Dusti 15:06, 25 June 2008 (UTC)

Yeah!! I actually started a topic on this page rather than stalking everyone else's

The following discussion is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section.

OK, basically, I've been thinking about standing for RfA for quite a while, and I have asked a few people what they thought about my chances of surviving it intactpassing. Unfortunately, I still have no idea how the community would react to a candidate whose main contribution to this project is roughly 40000 Huggle reverts/warnings/aiv and whose sole major contribution to the article space is getting a barely start class article to an "almost" GA. (John Rutledge, in case you're interested)

From what I can see, you despise Huggle (or at the very least, you despise the way 99.9999....% of people are using it) Most of the people who commonly "stalk" this page also share a similar view.

I have had someone offer to nominate me in a few weeks, and I guess I just wanted to see if you think that my RfA would be:

1. A waste of the community's time (i.e WP:SNOW. I don't think NOTNOW would apply to me in this case, as I (should) have a pretty good idea of what is generally asked of candidates at RfA.)
2. A blight on my nominator's reputation
3. A nail-biter down to the end
4. A nice, quiet walk in the park (yeah right....)

To avoid the risk of TL:DR, here is my question in a nutshell:

Do you think there is any chance I could conceivably pass an RfA solely on my present merits? J.delanoy_adds 15:40, 25 June 2008 (UTC)

Comment from the TPS gallery: you're definitely going to get opposes for lack of mainspace contribs. See my RFA for an example, and (with no offense intended) I think I've got much more mainspace contribs than you at the present time. you'll also get opposes for the huggle use. however, per the above, we're due for a passing RFA, so run, NOW! –xenocidic (talk) 15:44, 25 June 2008 (UTC)

Well, since its on the table, what do you think of me running for an RFA? Dusti 15:49, 25 June 2008 (UTC)

(ec) (to Xenocidic) About the KT:RFA thing... Number one, I really don't want to base my RfA on tempting fate ;) Seriously, thought, in order to run now, I would have to nominate myself, and a self-nom from a Huggle maniac... *shudder*

Also, from what I saw in your RFA, 75% of your opposes were either for "choosing a divisive username" or for"careless CSD tagging". J.delanoy_adds 15:54, 25 June 2008 (UTC)

Right, but there were opposes for the lack of mainspace contribs and you've admitted yours are quite low (I was just making a statement of yours compared to mine and the fact that I got opposes on it). Whether or not that will kill your RFA, I'm not sure. @dusti: not sure if you were asking me, but I'm no good at at vetting candidates - will let keeper comment. –xenocidic (talk) 15:57, 25 June 2008 (UTC)

Hee hee. I bet he (Keeper) is getting edit conflicted. Lets see how long we can hold him off his own talk page :) J.delanoy_adds 15:59, 25 June 2008 (UTC)

From the TPS Gallery, I didn't have a GA and I passed. I don't use Huggle, don't think I'd heard of it until it exploded recently but I do use Twinkle -- didn't seem to hurt me. Dusti, in all honesty I'd say not at the present moment. I think you need to finish working through your AfD adoption with Keeper and work on your article building schools skills before you should consider RFA. _{TravellingCari} 16:01, 25 June 2008 (UTC)

Agree. Things like Misplaced Pages:Requests for adminship/oren0, which I'm sure I don't have to rehash, really need to stop happening - mainly because things like that speak to your judgment skill set. It seems like every time you build some momentum, you shoot yourself in the foot. Tan | 39 16:08, 25 June 2008 (UTC) Afternote - I was speaking about Dusti there. I would probably support j.d. on an RfA with no problems at all. Tan | 39 16:10, 25 June 2008 (UTC)

(edit conflicts aaaaaack!!!!!) No offense to anyone here, but my talkpage is not Pre-rfa screening. "If I can pass on Keeper's page, I might have a shot" is not really a good idea, although I know you (both) mean well. Read User:Keeper76/RfA to see what to do to get a support from me and decide for yourself if your there. Also, read what not to do regarding a nom from me if that was your intention posting here. Cheers! Keeper | 76 | Disclaimer 16:09, 25 June 2008 (UTC)

Sorry, I just don't know if I should go for mit or not... I was not aware of your /RFA page. I'm sorry for clogging up your talk page with random posts. *sigh* J.delanoy_adds 16:13, 25 June 2008 (UTC)

Blog

You could say that your page isn't a blog, either, which really it is. And it's a good thing, a place for us all to chat and run ideas by a group of people we know and trust. You've been different lately, dude, what's up? Way shorter fuse, snappy, dismissive... Tan | 39 16:16, 25 June 2008 (UTC)