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8th Platoon

Getting Started

Hello - I have read and read and can't figure this out. I am trying to write an article and have seen the sandbox and the tutorials, but i was confused when I saw we should request to submit biographies... I am trying to write one on William A. Bond, an American figure on whom there is little on the internet. (Most of his information is in hard copies of very old reference material.) For example, he was a captain in WWII, he went on a major safari every year after the war and holds world records for some of his hunts. There is a museum that holds 140 full mounts, he had one of the largest private gun and Civil War collections (General Custard's gun to Indian chief headresses!) He also comes from high pedigree, his ancestors were major southern plantation owners etc.

SO i have submitted the request, what is next? i'm going to pull some information from his book, The Bill Bond Chronicles, that he had published privately. Should I start working on it or do I need to wait to hear back from an admin for the green light?

and where exactly do I start typing, it says on my user page, but i am not sure. I hope this isn't annoying to you, just so confused! it seems difficult to navigate. Thanks! 03hawnee (talk) 19:59, 3 July 2008 (UTC)

See above Mike P  20:19, 3 July 2008 (UTC)

Mike's link takes you to a paragraph full of useful guidance on writing articles, biog and otherwise, which should help you. It's possible your subject may meet notability guidelines if he is mentioned in credible third-party sources, but the best way of finding out is to write your article and see what other editors think. No, you don't need to wait for permission from anyone to submit it, just be bold and go ahead. The best way is to create it on a user subpage. This means it won't be deleted by any over-enthusiastic editor while you're working on it. To create a user subpage for your article, go to your user page and click the edit this page tab. Then type in the line ] and save the page. A redlink will appear on your userpage, and if you click on this you'll be taken to a text box where you can input text and save it to create your page. Then follow the guidelines on WP:Your first article. When it's ready, you can move it into articlespace. If you ensure that you assert Mr Bond's notability and provide good strong citations for your material - printed sources are fine - your article stands a good chance of making it. If you need help, feel free to ask. Good luck. --Karenjc 22:13, 3 July 2008 (UTC)

Karen, THANK YOU!!! Ok so I've created the subpage (which seems like it is the best way to go) - now do I just start typing? Or do I have to follow some special format and insert the symbols etc? I would love so much to just write in paragraphs. Also, where do I list the references (third party sources)? At the bottom of my article? And when I'm finished, then what? Do I submit to someone? (AH I wish I could hire a Misplaced Pages guru to do all this!) Thanks so much for your time and help. 03hawnee (talk) 19:19, 14 July 2008 (UTC)

Karen made a slight error - the code to add to your user page should have been ] - I fixed that for you and also created the sub page with the {{User Sandbox}} template. All you have to do now is click on the blue link on your User page, that will take you to the subpage. When you get there, click the edit tab and edit away. Leave the {{User Sandbox}} template in place. Also take a look at your first article for more advice on article construction. – ukexpat (talk) 20:16, 14 July 2008 (UTC)

Fonts, tables without borders, available bgcolors

I want to include a table as a box which has a quotation within. I want to use an old English type font. I want the box to be indented 1 inch from the left and the right with the copy within centered. I could prepare in in photo format, but would rather not.

I have searched and searched and cannot find a listing of usable "bgcolors" or fonts. Argee (talk) 02:48, 7 July 2008 (UTC)

Give this code a try:

Do note, however, that "bgcolor" is short for "background color" which, in (X)HTML terms, refers to something like this. x42bn6 Talk Mess 09:02, 8 July 2008 (UTC)

You can not have Old English type font. A web browser can only display those fonts each viewer have in their computer. Most people don't have Old Englis font or anything similar. --PauliKL (talk) 23:21, 21 July 2008 (UTC)

updating a page/photo

Hello. I have read through all the information, but I am just left more confused then when I started. I have been assigned to change the picture for my boss on his bio page (http://en.wikipedia.org/Paul_Gentilozzi). I have gone into the Misplaced Pages Common area and uploaded the new photo, however, I just don't know where to go from here to get it posted and remove the old photo. Any help would be extremely appreciated. Rsrpr (talk) 18:16, 8 July 2008 (UTC)

Do you remember the name of the image that you uploaded to Commons? – ukexpat (talk) 18:24, 8 July 2008 (UTC)

Yes, it is Image:Paul Gentilozzi.jpg —Preceding unsigned comment added by Rsrpr (talk • contribs) 18:25, 8 July 2008 (UTC)

(e/c) I found it ]. On the article page, in edit mode, replace the existing image wikilink (at the top of the article) with ], replacing "caption" with the caption you wish to use. – ukexpat (talk) 18:32, 8 July 2008 (UTC)

I was so close.....trying to change it from the photo page, not the actual bio page. I see now. I will give it a try. Thanks a million! :) —Preceding unsigned comment added by Rsrpr (talk • contribs) 18:34, 8 July 2008 (UTC)

Glad I could help. Just as a "by the way", when you are on Misplaced Pages and you want to link to an article here, you don't need to use the full URL, just put the article name in double square brackets, like this ], which renders as Paul Gentilozzi. – ukexpat (talk) 18:37, 8 July 2008 (UTC)

That worked! Now I just have one more question regarding this photo. Is there anyway to make the thumbnail bigger (like it was with the previous photo) or does that just depend on the file size? And thanks for the "BTY" help - well needed as I learn my way around wiki! —Preceding unsigned comment added by Rsrpr (talk • contribs) 18:52, 8 July 2008 (UTC)

Yes, you just add a size parameter, say |200px - I'll do it and you will see what I mean. – ukexpat (talk) 19:34, 8 July 2008 (UTC)

I made it 300px - is that big enough? – ukexpat (talk) 19:36, 8 July 2008 (UTC)

Looks great - thanks again for the help (Rsrpr (talk) 18:48, 21 July 2008 (UTC))

Move ubx template?

Can I change the name of a ubx I made with Userbox maker by "moving", like with a page name? Mike P  02:11, 12 July 2008 (UTC)

You can move any page the way described at Help:Moving a page - pages in your userspace, templates, etc. So, if you made a userbox and put it on a page in your userspace, you could move it to a different page in your userspace. I'm not sure if that answers your question though... do say if you need more information. -- Natalya 11:11, 12 July 2008 (UTC)

Properties of Chords of a circle

AB & CD are two parallel chords of a circle such that AB=10 CM, and CD=24cm. If the chords are on the opposit side of a centre and the distance between them is 17CM. Find the radius of the circle.(~'s) —Preceding unsigned comment added by Getmonika (talk • contribs) 06:52, 12 July 2008 (UTC)

Have you tried the Mathematics section of Misplaced Pages's Reference Desk? They specialize in answering knowledge questions there; this help desk is only for questions about using Misplaced Pages. For your convenience, here is the link to post a question there: click here. I hope this helps. -- Natalya 11:09, 12 July 2008 (UTC)

By the way, to sign at the end of a post you write this: ~~~~ which is what "the following four tildes (~'s)" means! Best, Olaf Davis | Talk 12:16, 12 July 2008 (UTC)

How do I reverse edits that were undone by someone else?

I am the Executive Director of an organization and there is a page here that was written by someone about us. I am trying to correct the page and some mis-information that appears on the page, plus I'd like to make the page look nicer by using titles, etc, Every time I go in and do the edits, someone (a bot?) comes along and undoes the edits.

How do I get the incorrect information off the page and how do I fix the page to look more like I'd like it to look without someone editing it I copied, actually, the format that I saw on another organizations page - but the last "undo" said I was copying my website (which looks, of course, nothing like a wiki page)

VictoriaWoodhull (talk) 20:12, 12 July 2008 (UTC)

One thing might be an issue. Your username is contained in your organization's title, which might be considered a Conflict of interest. Mike P  20:41, 12 July 2008 (UTC)

Ah. I will change my user name and try again. Thanks! —Preceding unsigned comment added by VictoriaWoodhull (talk • contribs) 20:42, 12 July 2008 (UTC)

A quick note: that is not advisable. You should consider finding a neutral third-party to edit the article. Especially if you are executive director of the organization. Mike P  20:44, 12 July 2008 (UTC)

I don't know if it's an issue but the article is being re-edited immediately by a just-signed user, perhaps they did as they said and just changed their username. Mike P  21:17, 12 July 2008 (UTC)

Can't get a clear info.

I was searching the information about the programming languages used for running a basic web search engines Iam not able to find it with accuracy. Can you help me with this. 59.92.33.124 (talk) 18:57, 13 July 2008 (UTC)

Have you tried the Computing section of Misplaced Pages's Reference Desk? They specialize in answering knowledge questions there; this help desk is only for questions about using Misplaced Pages. For your convenience, here is the link to post a question there: click here. I hope this helps. I suggest saying what exactly your goal is. Do you really want to make your own "basic" (no such thing if it's going to be useful) web search engine? Or do you just want a search box at your website which calls an existing external search engine? PrimeHunter (talk) 20:03, 13 July 2008 (UTC)

Web search engines can be written in nearly any serious current programming language. I once wrote a simple crawler in AWK. Crawlers are usually limited by network performance, and are heavy on string processing. Therefore high-level languages like Perl*urg* or Python (programming language) are very appropriate. Searching the actual index once build is often limited by CPU. I would assume that most current systems are implemented in C or C++. --Stephan Schulz (talk) 12:47, 14 July 2008 (UTC)

Learning the editing process

Sorry, I did read the guide to edit(and have reread them and checked FAQ)and had a go in the tutorial sandbox (rechecked this also) but I am confused to my error. On my first attempt at an edit, when from my point of view I was just roughing out a phrase, to refer to Prof Claw's measurement of pain in fibromyalgia sufferers, which is from a peer reviewed scientific paper I got from pub med, so an conventional academic reference from 2003 - I got 2 watchlists remarks. What concerns me is not as such that they said original research, as I had not put in the references or indeed finished the phrase but that I thought I had yet to submit anything. So the criticism would had been valid if it was a finished and saved edit, but from my point of view I was drafting a sentence, and had yet to reference it. I understood you could press a preview button before saving changes from what I read. I am sure I have made a very simple mistake but what is it? If I am supposed to do this in a usersandbox, I am confused about how I create a sandbox, I understand this is a place to practise editing and and simply unclear how I do this. I did gain the impression that this was for confidence and it was usual to edit a page directly and changed were only seen when saved, is this incorrect? Basically how was a draft phrase readable? I thought it was just seen by myself and had no idea of pressing any keys but alphanumerical ones. Gesells (talk) 00:03, 14 July 2008 (UTC)

Other users cannot see what you preview when you don't save it, and you are allowed to preview anything. Your account has made no other edits than this post and nobody has posted messages to you at the talk page User talk:Gesells for your account. Maybe you were not logged in when you saw the message (people often lose their login during a session). In that case you may have seen a message posted to your IP address. Somebody else may have used the same IP address in the past and the message could be for them. Do you know where you saw the message? You can create a user sandbox by editing User:Gesells/Sandbox. PrimeHunter (talk) 00:36, 14 July 2008 (UTC)

If at all in doubt as to whether you have posted anything, click on "my contributions" (top right of the page) which shows all the edits you've made in order, most recent edit first. If it's not listed there, it's not happened. PrimeHunter is probably right about the messages you saw being for your IP address. Sometimes many users edit via the same IP address or range of addresses (it depends on your internet provider) and if any of them gets a message - about vandalism, for example - then the other users see it too. If you login this doesn't happen - you only see messages meant for you, and they will appear on your talk page. I'll drop a few useful links there to help you find your way around. Karenjc 18:46, 14 July 2008 (UTC)

Image Usage Confusion

New user here. Rather confused by the maze of image guidelines. Uploaded an image to http://en.wikipedia.org/Image:Milagro_Vargas.gif and received a notification on my talk page with this in it: "If you obtained it from a website, then a link to the website from which it was taken, together with a restatement of that website's terms of use of its content, is usually sufficient information. However, if the copyright holder is different from the website's publisher, then their copyright should also be acknowledged."

I obtained the photo through Google Images on a website called Americancomposers.org. No copyright information posted on their website. Should I remove the photo? Or, should I attempt to contact the subject of the photo for permission to use? Sorry all, bear with me. I'll get the hang of this thing yet. --CercareVerita (talk) 03:18, 14 July 2008 (UTC)

It's not the subject that needs to give permission, it's the copyright holder. You should contact the website controller and ask who holds the copyright for that image. Algebraist 09:59, 14 July 2008 (UTC)

Generally, you can't use photographs of living persons at all that are non-free. Another words, even if you find out who has the copyright to the image, listing the source won't help. Such images must be free, i.e., released into the public domain or licensed under a free license such as the GFDL. As stated in our policy for non-free content: Unacceptable use... Pictures of people still alive, groups still active, and buildings still standing; provided that taking a new free picture as a replacement (which is almost always considered possible) would serve the same encyclopedic purpose as the non-free image. This includes non-free promotional images.--Fuhghettaboutit (talk) 12:39, 14 July 2008 (UTC)

I have found this user's article User:Videmus Omnia/Requesting free content to be of great help. Mike P  12:43, 14 July 2008 (UTC)

footnotes

I have just posted an article. I can see the footnotes in the text but I cannot see/find the footnotes at the end of the article. Could you please tell me how to find the footnotes and how to edit them once I have found them? Thanks. Joseph Levi Joseph Levi (talk) 03:44, 15 July 2008 (UTC)

If you use a <ref> tag for you footnotes, simply place {{reflist}} where you want them to be listed, as under a "Notes" or "References" section such as:

== Notes ==
{{reflist}}

Hope that helps. Mike P  03:51, 15 July 2008 (UTC)

Mike P, I would like to add a reference in an existing {{reflist}}, but I am unable to find an example of how. When I click the for the two existing references, only {{reflist}} appears. Do I simply add my new reference below the {{reflist}} ? Hag2 15:34, 26 July 2008 (UTC)

Please see {{Refref}} for exhaustive detail. In summary, you add a footnote to the References section containing the {{Reflist}} template by placing <ref>citation</ref> in the body of the article, next to the text where you want the numbered footnote to appear. The text between the tags then appears in the the references section and it is automatically numbered by the software.--Fuhghettaboutit (talk) 16:26, 26 July 2008 (UTC)

(edit conflict) Place <ref>Insert Text</ref> where you want the reference number to be displayed in the article. Then the reference text and numbers will automatically be displayed in the reference section (assuming it contains {{reflist}} or similar). See Misplaced Pages:Footnotes. PrimeHunter (talk) 16:28, 26 July 2008 (UTC)

Thanks. "See Misplaced Pages:Referencing for beginners", and using the "test example" in a Sandbox did the trick. Hag2 (talk) —Preceding undated comment was added at 16:41, 26 July 2008 (UTC)

Green Beginner...

My article was created but it says at the top "This article or section includes a list of references or external links, but its sources remain unclear because it lacks in-text citations." The article ( http://en.wikipedia.org/Clifford_David ) includes several references to websites supporting the resume of the individual performer that the article is about, what I don't understand is the statement that the 'sources remain unclear'. What is unclear about these reference sources? They 'source' to the reference, no? The 'In-Text Citations' link took me to quite an involved page that goes on about citations and footnotes and frankly just perplexed me. Again, I'm green and this is my first article. I tried to add ref and then the placed the link in-between and that created a number 1 that didn't drop the article down to the link, which is what I thought it might do.

Man this wiki stuff takes some getting used to. Is there a 'Misplaced Pages-article-creation-for-dummies' article out there? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 67.101.105.47 (talk) 03:56, 15 July 2008 (UTC)

You will get the hang of inline citations with a little practice. See the article Misplaced Pages:Referencing for beginners for now. Also, the refTools option on the gadgets tab of the preferences section will place a citation button on you edit toolbar. Just fill in the fields, making sure your cursor is where you want the citation before you add it. Make sure you have a section that looks like this:

== References ==
{{reflist}}

The list of citations will appear where you place the "reflist" anchor. Mike P  04:51, 15 July 2008 (UTC)

The reason the template says that sources are unclear is because without inline citations, there is no way of telling which source supports which fact in the article. A list of sources at the end of an article is better than nothing, but it's not nearly as good as proper numbered inline citations.

It sounds like you're almost there anyway, if you're managing to embed the citations in the text and ref numbers are being generated. refTools is a bit clunky but very convenient. Once you have enabled it in my preferences/gadgets by checking the box and saving, you can use it to help cite journals, books, websites etc as Mjpresson describes above. Don't feel intimidated by the citation process. All good reference info you can add is useful, and even if the citation is incomplete or not quite correctly formatted, it's a step in the right direction for the article. Karenjc 20:05, 15 July 2008 (UTC)

Inserting Infobox Uk

G'day Am a newbie but not afraid to put my hand up, before I stuff up!

Have done a fair bit of reading up on Infobox UK and find am lost and confused.

Sorry folks a real rookie question here but HELP, am sure once I know what am doing it will be a snap.

Am not too proud to say the terminology gets me confused :) So please make it simple, save me asking twice :))

PS: Please leave the answer on my Talk Page Many Thanks in advance Zippomk2 (talk) 12:22, 15 July 2008 (UTC)

Replied on user talk. PrimeHunter (talk) 15:04, 15 July 2008 (UTC)

16th July 2008 Additional Info: Am just wanting to add an infobox that shows the map of the UK, location of the place, and the usual geographical and political stuff. Would be good to know where to source all that information from as well Many ThanksZippomk2 (talk) 07:31, 16 July 2008 (UTC)

Different infoboxes can be used for different types of UK places. Is it one of the infoboxes at ? Or can you name an article already having the type of infobox you want to use? Or can you name an article you want to use the infobox in, so we can see which infobox is suited. PrimeHunter (talk) 12:43, 16 July 2008 (UTC)

G'day PrimeHunter, wiki page is Silverdale Nottingham just want to add the standard UK Infobox with relevant LGA and similiar information. Also a map of the UK, and Nottinghamshire and location dot. Standard stuff I know Prime but am a newbie, just want to get it right, and see how its done. Thanks in advance PrimeHunter Zippomk2 (talk) 11:24, 17 July 2008 (UTC)

Hi Zippomk2, you can use {{infobox UK place}}. There are full instructions on the template page, but if that looks a bit daunting, you can copy and paste from another page and change the relevant details. One you could copy from is Hammersmith. Leave "map type=" blank. Misplaced Pages:Obtaining geographic coordinates may be of some help, you need to have the coordinates for the map and the dot. Also, if you read Misplaced Pages:WikiProject UK geography/How to write about settlements, that'll help you with the whole article. Hope that helps, --BelovedFreak 11:31, 18 July 2008 (UTC)

One final thought - looking at the article Silverdale, Nottingham, I initially thought it was a suburb. Is it a housing estate? If so, it may not meet notability guidelines and may end up being deleted. One way to demonstrate notability is to add references to independent reliable third party sources. The article needs references anyway, to make sure that the information is verifiable. It may be better to add the information to Wilford.--BelovedFreak 11:40, 18 July 2008 (UTC)

"some naive hypothesis at odds with basis of physik ---what wrong with them? " has ony bodi help me by answering ? ````

Please fill in the subject box above, then REPLACE ALL OF THESE INSTRUCTIONS with your question, and don't forget to sign by leaving the following four tildes (~'s) in place which automatically formats to your signature once you click "save page" below. 70.248.135.115 (talk) 14:34, 15 July 2008 (UTC)

• Say what? Ten Pound Hammer and his otters • 14:39, 15 July 2008 (UTC)

• See Misplaced Pages:Reference desk/Archives/Science/2008 July 9#some naive hypothesis at odds with basis of physic- what wrong with them ? PrimeHunter (talk) 14:59, 15 July 2008 (UTC)

== "some naive hypothesis at odds with basis of physik ---what wrong with them? " has ony bodi help me by answering ? ```` ==

Please fill in the subject box above, then REPLACE ALL OF THESE INSTRUCTIONS with your question, and don't forget to sign by leaving the following four tildes (~'s) in place which automatically formats to your signature once you click "save page" below. 70.248.135.115 (talk) 15:01, 15 July 2008 (UTC)

Move an article

Hello. I have written an article in my user page. I think that I am now ready to move it into the "live" Misplaced Pages for prime time. Could you please tell me how can I move the article in my user page into the "live" Misplaced Pages? Thanks! Joseph Levi 68.0.236.86 (talk) 18:31, 15 July 2008 (UTC)

You can move an article from your userspace into the article space by using the move function, and moving it to the title that you would like. Note that to move a page, you must be an autoconfirmed user. -- Natalya 19:39, 15 July 2008 (UTC)

Please see Misplaced Pages:Your first article. Copy and paste will work fine. Gtstricky 20:31, 15 July 2008 (UTC)

ben Smith

hi, i want to create a new article for Ben Smith, the politico writer, how do i do this as there are lots of ben smith articles alreay and i dont see how to create another one. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Cubguy83 (talk • contribs) 00:43, 16 July 2008 (UTC)

You can create the article about him at a title such as Ben Smith (writer), and then add a link to the article at the disambiguation page Ben Smith. Before creating the article, please do make sure that he is notable by Misplaced Pages's standards, which can be found at Misplaced Pages:Notability (people). -- Natalya 00:53, 16 July 2008 (UTC)

And also take a look at WP:YFA. – ukexpat (talk) 21:08, 16 July 2008 (UTC)

free legal advice regarding work .single parent

Please fill in the subject box above, then REPLACE ALL OF THESE INSTRUCTIONS with your question, and don't forget to sign by leaving the following four tildes (~'s) in place which automatically formats to your signature once you click "save page" below. 122.109.87.35 (talk) 05:31, 16 July 2008 (UTC)

Sorry, could you be a little more specific regarding your question? Also, if the question doesn't have to do with editing or using Misplaced Pages, you may instead be looking for the reference desk. Apologies for any confusion. Feel free to see our introduction to learn more about Misplaced Pages. – Luna Santin (talk) 07:05, 16 July 2008 (UTC)

Also bear in mind that if you're wanting legal advice here, then we can't give it. -- Karenjc 21:00, 16 July 2008 (UTC)

Question about correcting a factually incorrect wikipedia site

--Jennifer Rattray (talk) 03:55, 17 July 2008 (UTC)I am trying to update a basic wikipedia page created on my grandfather, an Olympic hockey player, as the information that has been supplied is incorrect (birthdate wrong, no death date etc.)

Unfortunately, wikipedia has not accepted my corrections as I am not able to cite them. I have documentation such as his birth certificate with correct birth date and so would like to change the incorrect birth date as well as add additional information.

thanks.

All information must be cited. You may want to check out Misplaced Pages's policy on reliable sources, verifiability, and conflicts of interest. The first sentence on WP:Verifiability sums it up well:

"The threshold for inclusion in Misplaced Pages is verifiability, not truth—that is, whether readers are able to check that material added to Misplaced Pages has already been published by a reliable source, not whether we think it is true."

Sorry. Paragon12321 (talk) 05:06, 17 July 2008 (UTC)

Birth and death certificates are public records are they not? As government data they can certainly be considered reliable and cited as a source on Misplaced Pages. Jennifer, drop a note on my talk page if you need help in how to add citations to an article. SpinningSpark 16:29, 17 July 2008 (UTC)

I don't think there can be much doubt that a birth certificate is a reliable source. In this case though I think the issue is how to present the source. If the birth certificate is available online, it's not clear from the relevant parts of the Canadian government website (), how freely usable that content would be. If the birth cert only exists in hard copy, how is that dealt with? Scanned and uploaded to Commons? – ukexpat (talk) 19:42, 17 July 2008 (UTC)

Definitely not Commons, since I presume that like Australia documents produced by the Canadian government would be under Crown copyright, unlike the US whose government releases documents into public domain. But it also doesn't belong on Misplaced Pages under fair use, since it wouldn't actually be used as an image in the article. It's a bit of a tricky situation, and the only way I can think of is to get the secondary sources (websites, etc.) to correct their facts by referring them to the primary sources (birth certificate, etc.). Confusing Manifestation(Say hi!) 23:29, 17 July 2008 (UTC)

It is not necessary to upload it at all. Misplaced Pages does not require sources to be available online. Many would say paper sources are superior to anything online which can disappear or change in the blink of an eye. It is only necessary to cite the document in the article so that other editors know where the information came from and can check it themselves if they wish. An online source saves the checker the trouble of going to the library or government record office (and possibly some money) but this is not any sort of criterion for exclusion from Misplaced Pages. It must be possible to check the source, not necessarily easy to check the source. Jennifer, go ahead and put your information back in, it is nonsense to suggest that this is not verifiable. SpinningSpark 08:10, 18 July 2008 (UTC)

Uploading images

I would like to replace the logo image in the listing for the Colgate-Palmolive Company.

I seems I don't have the right kind of access for this. How can I do it or can I provide a replacement file to someone else to replace it?

Thanks,

CP Corporate (talk) 12:59, 17 July 2008 (UTC)

In order to upload an image, you need to be autoconfirmed. For this, you need to have been registered for at least four days, and have made at least ten edits. If the logo you want to use is available on the internet, you can post to Talk:Colgate-Palmolive and request that someone uploads it. Or, you can just wait to become autoconfirmed. Please bear in mind the message I left at your talkpage regarding your username.--BelovedFreak 13:18, 17 July 2008 (UTC)

aldi

i come from Geece and i would like to get in touch with someone who belongs to aldi's administration here in GreeceKaterina morfidou (talk) —Preceding comment was added at 07:50, 18 July 2008 (UTC)

Are you sure you wanted Misplaced Pages? This page is for helping new Misplaced Pages editors. SpinningSpark 07:57, 18 July 2008 (UTC)

Have you tried the reference desk? They may be able to help you.--BelovedFreak 11:18, 18 July 2008 (UTC)

(e/c) You could try asking this question at the miscellaneous section of the reference desk or, better yet, try the Greek Misplaced Pages's "Market" (Αγορά) where any subject can be discussed. Cheers.--Fuhghettaboutit (talk) 11:28, 18 July 2008 (UTC)

Adding information to a list

I would like to add some names to the 'List of Slaves', the edit page looks a bit scary. I don't want to mess it up?--Saioos63 (talk) 10:51, 19 July 2008 (UTC)

Don't worry if you break something - all revisions to an article are kept, so it can be undone if anything breaks. If you're not sure though, make a suggestion on the article's talk page by clicking the 'discussion' tab at the top and making a new post there. Someone else familar with the article should be able to add the information for you. Hope this helps. Gazimoff _Read 10:55, 19 July 2008 (UTC)

You can also use the 'Show preview' button just below the edit window to see what the page will look like after your changes and check it's Ok. You might want to read over Misplaced Pages:Notability too to check that the slaves you want to add meet our guidelines for inclusion. Happy editing! Olaf Davis | Talk 18:00, 19 July 2008 (UTC)

New User Stumped By Notability

I'm quite new here, but I've read a lot and have been tagging some articles and making small corrections here and there. I came across an article, Reek Da Villain (a redirect now, it's been changed to Reek Da Villian), which I felt suffered from a lack of notability. I don't want to push my "point of view" and felt that by adding a notability template, I was being fair and reasonable. In watching the page and the dozens of edits that were being made by the article's author, I noticed that my template had disappeared. I wasn't sure whether I should add it back or not, but as there were no edits by anyone other than the author at the time, I reasonably assumed that it was simply erased by the author, who didn't want it there. I suppose it could have been an accident? Anyway, I added the template again, which hasn't been removed since.

My question has several parts to it, please bear with me!

• CAN the creator of a new article remove a speedy delete, or a template, or anything else pointing out some fault in their article?
• If so, and they do remove it, is it reasonable to leave them a warning on their talk page - say, if they remove it more than once? Is there a template for this kind of warning? If they ignore that, too, would I report them?
• Should I have assumed that the user knew what they were doing and that my issue with the notability was incorrect? Was I wrong to persist and put it back?
• I've been checking on lots of articles that are already patrolled to see what generally gets thrown out and what doesn't (where things aren't blatantly obvious) and this one really has me thinking. I'm quite convinced that this article isn't notable, but would love to find out if I am wrong, so please tell me what you think! What is the point of view of the admins and other more experienced users? I'm not sure if I'm just being picky or - even worse - prejudiced!
• Am I allowed to make specific and disparaging references to an article I'm not the author of? Like this whole question on Reek Da Villian?

Thank you very much for any help! Maedin (talk) 20:19, 19 July 2008 (UTC)

• • It depends on the type of template. Speedy templates should not be removed by the involved party at all, they should remain in place until acted upon, including being declined or removed by an experienced editor with a rationale provided; see {{uw-speedy1}}, {{uw-speedy2}}, etc. For maintenance templates, such as {{unreferenced}}, there's {{uw-tdel1}}, {{uw-tdel2}}, etc. and for lots of other templates you might find useful and instructive, see WP:UTM. Removal of the notability template is trickier. It's not exactly a maintenance template and it serves more the role of a heads up warning than asking for any specific task to be done. I would not replace it again, but simply take the article to AfD if the article isn't sufficiently improved and a bit of research leads you to the conclusion the article is indeed not-notable. If, on the other hand, your research leads you to believe the subject is or is likely to be notable, but the article fails to show that, you can add {{Importance}} instead. I wouldn't say you were wrong to place it back, as it wasn't clear its removal was calculated, but as I said, it's not the same as a maintenance template. As for whether you are allowed to make "disparaging references", I'm not sure of what you mean. I don't think you mean adding negative content to the article itself, but just in case, see WP:BLP. But saying something is not notable is not disparaging—at least not how we use that word here. It simply means it doesn't meet our standards for writing a tertiary source article which is a requirement of an encyclopedia, because independent reliable sources haven't already published substantive material about the subject. If your truly think the subject is not notable, take it to AfD. I didn't repond to your laundry list seriatim, but I hope I covered most of the bases. Cheers.--Fuhghettaboutit (talk) 20:48, 19 July 2008 (UTC)

Thanks Fuhghettaboutit, I think you answered most of my questions! I must be careful not to think that there is a magic solution to these things, which probably, in my naivety, I was hoping to get out of my question, lol. But there aren't absolutes, so, as I'm convinced that the article should simply be merged, I will instigate AfD and wait and see what other people think. In grey areas, that's the best that a new user can do, I suppose, is read every piece of guidance and policy they can, and if it still isn't clear, then submit it to the more experienced and learn from their response. On a side note, my comment about disparaging comments is that I was fairly outrightly stating in my question that a certain rapper wasn't notable, and even linking to the article. I wondered if that constituted "bad press" - perhaps I should not have given the name of the article and instead made the reference more hypothetical than specific. Anyway, thank you again, and sorry it took me so long to respond! :))) Cheers, Maedin (talk) 17:53, 24 July 2008 (UTC)

Table placement

Could someone help me to place these tabled userboxes to the right of my page? Feel free to do it. Thanks very much. Mjpresson (talk) 05:42, 20 July 2008 (UTC)

Done:-)--Fuhghettaboutit (talk) 05:52, 20 July 2008 (UTC)

Zodiac Vandalism on the Vietnam page

Hi, I went to the Vietnam page http://en.wikipedia.org/Vietnam and found it to be vandalized by this bizarre Zodiac text. I have never edited Misplaced Pages before, and the nature of the vandalism won't allow me to see the edit tab anyway. Any ideas how to get rid of this? Thanks! 68.45.32.206 (talk) 23:38, 20 July 2008 (UTC)

It has been fixed. Lately there has been much template vandalism of this kind. The vandalized template is usually fixed quickly and then pages transcluding the template can be fixed by purging them. PrimeHunter (talk) 23:54, 20 July 2008 (UTC)

Thank you! 68.45.32.206 (talk) 01:39, 21 July 2008 (UTC)

Wikified

I have wikified my page. I wish removed the information that I need to Wiki my page00:36, 21 July 2008 (UTC)65.93.124.193 (talk)

Which page is it? (The above post is the only contribution by that IP address). PrimeHunter (talk) 00:43, 21 July 2008 (UTC)

I guess it's the same as in Misplaced Pages:Help desk#Wikified: William F. Grant. PrimeHunter (talk) 01:19, 21 July 2008 (UTC)

Urologist

Sir,

i m urologist & ASSISTANT KIDNEY TRANSPLANT SURGEON. i m gradute of Allama iqbal medical college lahore and had completed my post graduate training in urology,and had experienced of 8 years work in lahore as well as one year job at D.H.Q hospital pakpattan,i came to know that u people r going to start a new t.v channel and its honour for me to work with this leading team. Sir, i want to work on health,Medicine,poverty,education and some social factors through Medical programme that may be consist of documentories,like questions answers,discussions on Medical issues. i want to work on following topics, 1.Primary health care 2.trauma management 3.medical education and entry test 4.Hepatits and Aids 5.T.B 6.Emergency services 7.Kidney failure and dialysis 8.Kidney and Liver transplant 9.Role of Govt in health sector 10.Role of Private Medical colleges. 11.Provision of Medicines to patients. 12.Drug Act 13.Role of pharmacist 14.Role of blood bank 15. Role of Social worker 16. Medical conferences and workshops. Sir, I have experience to organise different Workshops and seminars on medical education. I want to start new program through your channel So health facilities can be provided to humanity . I am much grate ful. I am sending u my C.V along my Suggestions. I hope you will consider it sincerely.

                                                        thanx
                                                                              Truely Yours,
                                                                Dr. Kamran Hassan bhatti
                                                        Cell:       —Preceding unsigned comment added by Ijaz YOUSAF113 (talk • contribs) 05:42, 21 July 2008 (UTC)

Are you requesting help in how to use Misplaced Pages?--92.40.195.64 (talk) 10:38, 21 July 2008 (UTC)

Hello. I suspect, based on your question, that you found one of our over two million articles, and thought that we were directly affiliated in some way with that subject. Please note that you are at Misplaced Pages, the online 💕 that anyone can edit, and this page is a help desk for asking questions related to using the encyclopedia. Thus, we have no inside track on the subject of your question. You can, however, search our vast catalogue of articles by typing a subject into the search field on the left hand side of your screen. If that is not fruitful, we have a reference desk, divided into various subjects areas, where asking knowledge questions is welcome. Best of luck.--Fuhghettaboutit (talk) 12:33, 21 July 2008 (UTC)

how can i create my sandbox into a page?

I have written in the sandbox an article on 'PICUM (the Platform for International Cooperation on Undocumented Migrant)' and do not know how to submit it as a page. Also, I think an administrator may have to do this because i think the name is protected as it has the word 'cum' in it. Also, is providing the website page at the bottom enough of a reference? Hannah2401 (talk) 07:27, 21 July 2008 (UTC)

i have created the page but i dont know if it will soon be deleted as the only external link i have is to the organisation's website.. please let me know if this suffices as a reference, and if not how can i create a satisfactory reference? Also, the title is 'Picum' but is there any way to change it to 'PICUM'? Hannah2401 (talk) 07:52, 21 July 2008 (UTC)

Hi Hannah, and welcome to Misplaced Pages. You would definitely need more references than the organisation's website. I am also actually wondering whether PICUM is notable (i.e., famous) enough to the extent that it can be included in this encyclopaedia. I've been Googling for a bit (such as here) and I can't find any really independent references to PICUM. I also see that there was a past discussion here which indicates that some others have also questioned whether PICUM merits an article.

Anyway, if the article does remain, you'll be able to change its name by clicking on the "Move" link near the top of the page. (Possibly you might have to wait a few days to be allowed to do this.)--92.40.195.64 (talk) 10:25, 21 July 2008 (UTC)

I have moved it to PICUM. It required an administrator because page titles containing upper case "CUM" are protected at MediaWiki:Titleblacklist for vandalism reasons. PrimeHunter (talk) 11:23, 21 July 2008 (UTC)

Wisconsin's First African American Mayor

The first and only African American elected Mayor in the State of Wisconsin was from what city? Fitchburg Her name is Frances Huntley-Cooper who was elected on April 2, 1991 and made history by becoming Wisconsin's first and only African American Mayor ever elected to office. Why is this not reflected in Misplaced Pages? 167.218.154.126 (talk) 22:15, 21 July 2008 (UTC)

Because Misplaced Pages has no central system and no top down writing tasks. Instead, it is a volunteer run and written encyclopedia and things are added by people because they happen to be interested in a subject. We hope that well-written, stable, neutrally-toned, well-sourced articles on all notable topics will eventually be included, but we are contrained by what people choose to write about. The best way for that article to be written, is for you, if you're willing and capable, to write it yourself. That's how many people get involved. They see a gap on something they think should be here, and they fill that gap. All you need to do is sign up for an account, wait four days and make at least ten edits to other articles and you will then be able to create the article. If you do so, and have any problems, including needing help citing sources, do not hesitate to contact me on my talk page. Cheers.--Fuhghettaboutit (talk) 23:17, 21 July 2008 (UTC)

You only have to register an account to create an article, but if you prefer something easier then you can also mention her in Fitchburg, Wisconsin. The four days and ten edits mentioned by Fuhghettaboutit is to get autoconfirmed which is required for certain other things. PrimeHunter (talk) 23:36, 21 July 2008 (UTC)

How to make a redirect

If you were to search for "Rufus Zogbaum," I would like you to be directed to "Rufus Fairchild Zogbaum." How would you make that happen? Thank you for your answer! Ayapota (talk) 12:01, 22 July 2008 (UTC)

I see you already know the term redirect by virtue of the section header you made. At Misplaced Pages, redirects are made by creating a page for the other name with the text #REDIRECT ]. After that when a person types the name of the redirect they will be taken straight to the other article. Lots more information on redirects is at Misplaced Pages:Redirect. Cheers.--Fuhghettaboutit (talk) 12:07, 22 July 2008 (UTC)

Adding Personal Biographies

Can you add personal biographies to wikipedia? Because this would be an interesting appeal. 141.116.10.13 (talk) 15:30, 22 July 2008 (UTC)

Biographical articles on Misplaced Pages must conform to our guidelines on that subject to ensure that they are about notable people. Misplaced Pages users can use their own user page to write about themselves if they so desire, but articles about non-notable people will be deleted. Tony Fox (arf!) 15:44, 22 July 2008 (UTC)

You can post bios on http://www.wikibios.com and http://www.wikipopuli.com without restriction. – ukexpat (talk) 15:53, 22 July 2008 (UTC)

First-timer at submitting an article - questions about using copyrighted images with permission from artist

Hello - I've just finished writing an article about the photographer KARL FERRIS and would like to upload it to Misplaced Pages. While I have edited other articles in the past, this is the first time that I'm submitting an article, so I want to be sure I'm doing it correctly. Besides the text and links to other Misplaced Pages articles, I have a few photographs that Karl has given me permission to use in this article. These are well-known, valuable photos, so I do not want to upload them without understanding how to properly attach copyright notices and make sure that there is no confusion about whether someone/anyone can legally use these images once they're uploaded. As I am not a computer programmer, while I hhave read through your instructions about submitting an article, I'm still a bit hesitant to do so for fear of doing it incorrectly. Can I simply send my article to someone who can review it and then upload it for me? Please let me know what to do - thanks so much for your help and patience. Sincerely Mike Goldstein RockPoP Gallery Huntington, NY, USA Rockpop (talk) 19:12, 22 July 2008 (UTC)

I have created a user subpage for you where you can work on the article until you think it is ready to be moved to the mainspace. The subpage is at User:Rockpop/Karl Ferris. I also created link to it on your user page - User:Rockpop. Click on the subpage link, then click on the edit tab and you can paste the article into the page and save. Take a look at WP:YFA for guidance on writing your first article. Also take a look at WP:BIO, WP:V and WP:RS. Don't hesitate to contact me on my talk page if I can help further. – ukexpat (talk) 19:42, 22 July 2008 (UTC)

I will add some extra information on image copyright on User talk:Rockpop as well. Confusing Manifestation(Say hi!) 00:25, 23 July 2008 (UTC)

Emile Lessore article

Hi. I added a new article entitled Emile Lessore. Is there a way to have someone look it over? Suntag (talk) 21:29, 22 July 2008 (UTC)

...It looks like someone already looked it over. Thanks. Suntag. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Suntag (talk • contribs) 22:02, 22 July 2008 (UTC)

Direction to Applicable Articles Please...

I think I'm getting the basics down, but can't figure out where to get info on something I want to do.

I want to write a short piece about QuikSigma, which is in the same class of software with Minitab and Statgraphics.

The text and links aren't a problem, so far... standard references working fine.

What I don't understand how to do is the summary box that appears in most of the statistical software articles. It seems to be drawn from a summary chart located elsewhere. Can you point me to how to add QuikSigma to the source document, and then how to insert the summary box in the article?

denton (talk) 01:50, 23 July 2008 (UTC)

I guess you refer to {{Infobox Software}}. You can click "edit this page" on an existing article to see how the article does something. You only have to edit the article where you want to place the infobox. Please only create an article if the subject satisfies Misplaced Pages:Notability. PrimeHunter (talk) 02:02, 23 July 2008 (UTC)

(e/c) If you provide an example page which has the "summary box" it would help. Do you mean a box such as the one that appears in the upper right hand corner of the page CHARTrunner? If so, that's an "infobox", in this case, {{Infobox_Software}}. You can just click edit this page on the article I just linked and grab the code from the top of the article, then replace the information listed for each parameter with the data for the article you are creating. If that's not what you were referring to, again, please point to a specific article that contains what you mean and describe where on the page it appears. However, before you create the article, please check out Misplaced Pages:Notability (web). The subject of article on Misplaced Pages must be notable, which generally means being the subject of substantive treatment in reliable sources that are independent of the subject.--Fuhghettaboutit (talk) 02:11, 23 July 2008 (UTC)

NiteMedia

NiteMedia S.A. (Sociedad Anonima) is a Central American based solutions company, currently owns online properties like LasNite.Com, ClickforFlick.Com and TheNonsense.com. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Mhbernheim (talk • contribs) 16:04, 23 July 2008 (UTC)

Do you have a specific question regarding Misplaced Pages, perhaps about an article (with the above subject) you wish to create? If not, your comments can be construed as WP:SPAM. Wisdom89 _{(T / )} 06:42, 24 July 2008 (UTC)

Conflict of Interest???

Hi, I hope I am in the right place for this question. I have just joined Misplaced Pages. I was hoping to write an article about a band (two people, they play a mix of Irish/Scottish Music). Anyway, from what I can gather, since one of the guys in the band is my brother, I can't write this, as it would constitute a conflict of Interest. Is this correct? If I have posted this in the wrong place, forgive me. Dermiek (talk) 20:56, 23 July 2008 (UTC)

Well, it would technically be a conflict of interest. However, I would be willing to help you make an article about the band, assuming that they are notable. Are there independent sources about the band? Have they had a song chart on a recognized chart or have they released a couple of albums on a significant label? Let me know on my talk page and we'll see what we can do. Cheers! TN‑X-Man 21:26, 23 July 2008 (UTC)

External Links

I am confused about Misplaced Pages's policy on multiple submission of external references. I see where other organizations have have links on several pages and this is not considered promoting your website or spaming. My specific concerns relate to including my links on several American Civil War pages. I have a collection of over 3,400 digital photographs of battlefields and re-enactments that I would like to share with Wiki readers. Readers are free to download the pictures. My additions have been removed. I don't see any consistency with this policy. I have written to one of the editors and have not received a reply. 71.164.156.100 (talk) 12:56, 24 July 2008 (UTC)

Can you give an example of an addition that was removed? (A diff would be best, but if you don't know what a "diff" is, just give the name of the article concerned and the date/time when it was removed.) That would help us to answer your question. Also, Misplaced Pages:Copyrights has got general information on Misplaced Pages copyright policy (in case the concern was possible copyright violations), and Misplaced Pages:External links is a guideline on what external links are suitable. Oh, and welcome to Misplaced Pages. Cheers, --85.158.139.99 (talk) 07:14, 25 July 2008 (UTC)

User Masamage deleted my page

This week, I began a page for my company (NMS Labs). It is a work-in-progress, but we do expect to edit it to be quite informative and very relevant. User Masamage deleted it yesterday citing that it "Doesn't indicate importance or significance of a group/company/etc." I included links to our company website and blog. We are, in fact, a very well known and very well respected toxicology lab - known not only nationally but globally. I am quite offended that this user can just delete our page without notice. What do I have to do to ensure this does not happen again? Thank you. Nittany87 (talk) 13:29, 24 July 2008 (UTC)

What Masamage was alluding to was that you need to show why your company is important within the article. One of the things that we need to be wary of is allowing Misplaced Pages to be used as a vehicle for advertising, rather than an encyclopedia, so users such as Masamage check to make sure that new articles are about topics - and companies, in this case - which warrant an entry. NMS Labs does seem to be a significant toxicology lab, so what you'll need to do is make it clear in the article why it is important, as someone (such as myself) unaware of the toxicology field would probably not be in a position to judge. There are some general guidelines at Misplaced Pages:Notability (organizations and companies) which should help cover the sorts of information which you can use, but the easiest method is to show that the company has had good coverage in secondary sources, such as referencing discussions about NMS Labs in newspapers, books or journals. You might also want to consider developing the article as a subpage of your userspace, which will give you time to find sources before making it live. When it is ready to go it can be moved into the main space. This also gives you a chance to have other editors look at it before it goes live. One thing to be wary of, though, is a conflict of interest - as you are connected to the company there would seem to be a conflict. This doesn't stop you from creating or working on the page, but it would be wise to check the guidelines. - Bilby (talk) 13:51, 24 July 2008 (UTC)

The page Misplaced Pages:Reliable Sources explains what sort of sources qualify as significant coverage of your lab: find a few of those, include them in the article (see Citing sources for how to format them) and it shouldn't be summarily deleted again. Hope that helps! Best, Olaf Davis | Talk 23:43, 24 July 2008 (UTC)

lost italics in copy/paste move

instructions say to create new page on my own user page, then use copy/paste to move text to "create page here" when search sez "no page with that title exists." I lost all my italics in the move. Page in question is Carroll Watson Rankin, now out there sans italics. What shall I do next? How do I ask to be notified on my talk page? And how do I scrub clean my user page?Pilobola (talk) 00:48, 25 July 2008 (UTC)

I don't see much problem with italics at Carroll Watson Rankin, although I've begun formatting the references in the WP style and removed a slight "review"-like statement. Does that help? Thanks for contributing. Mjpresson (talk) 02:10, 25 July 2008 (UTC)

I don't see any italics on the version of your article on your user page. Perhaps you created the article on your own computer first, in a WORD file for example, and tried to copy it to Misplaced Pages? You would lose the formatting if you tried that. Italics at WP are created by using 2 single quotation marks.

Looking at the article, I see the first of your 4 references is formatted correctly, but the other 3 need to be changed. Look at the article in "edit" mode, and see how the first one is done within the edit box, then change the others to match.

References, done. Mjpresson (talk) 07:29, 25 July 2008 (UTC)

I added an infobox, persondata template and changed to a more appropriate stub. – ukexpat (talk) 19:25, 25 July 2008 (UTC)

To "scrub" your user page, edit it and remove everything in the edit box. --A Knight Who Says Ni (talk) 05:27, 25 July 2008 (UTC)

getting started

Thanx Mjpression for work on Carroll Watson Rankin. By the time you got there I had recreated my italics but had trouble with refs and cits. Anyway it looks good now and I have added the button you recommended to my toolbar. I see two pages (Chirikif Island and Charles McIlvaine the mushroomer) that I could do much to improve but having succeeded once, I am now terrified to try again. How could I do an edit and submit it for approval before I apply it to the page?Pilobola (talk) 18:55, 25 July 2008 (UTC)

You could do a couple of different things. You could use the preview button to see what your edit will look like before you submit it. Or you could discuss your edit on the talk page of the article to see what other editors think. I hope this helps! TN‑X-Man 18:57, 25 July 2008 (UTC)

And always remember: You are encouraged to be bold!. Every mistake can be easily fixed. Mjpresson (talk) 20:14, 25 July 2008 (UTC)

EDITING PAGE TITLE

I recently created a page about someone. But the name of the page has their name spelled in lower case. I tried to change it back to upper case but can't find where I could do that. I can edit the body of the page but don't know how to edit the title of the page. Please help!

Polokokta (talk) 04:30, 26 July 2008 (UTC)

I moved the article to the correct name. Accounts under four days old cannot move pages. Once the account is old enough, you should see a "move" tab on the top of the page. -CWY2190(talk • contributions) 05:34, 26 July 2008 (UTC)

The OP's account is four days old. The reason it lacks autoconfirmed status is that it's two short of the required ten edits. Algebraist 12:01, 26 July 2008 (UTC)

My article disapeared

My article that I worked on for several hours last night completely disapeared this morning. Last night I could still view the page, and my "my contributions" page still showed my history of the article, but when I went back to modify the article, the box was completely blank. This morning when I checked again, all history of the article had completely disapeared. What happened? All the informtion was directly off of an information website that am shutting down (I did briefly mention that website in the first-paragraph-overview of the article, is that that problem?), and I hadn't gotten a chance to cite my other sources for the information yet. So is it back to the drawing board? Davidvogel (talk) 15:23, 26 July 2008 (UTC)

Your article was probably deleted. I don't see any articles you have edited in your contributions. Do you remember its title? In future, you should create articles in your own user space, and move or copy/paste them to a live article when it's completed. See here for instructions on creating a user sub-page. --A Knight Who Says Ni (talk) 15:34, 26 July 2008 (UTC)

See also: WP:DEL#Access to deleted pages --A Knight Who Says Ni (talk) 15:40, 26 July 2008 (UTC)

Ty Peace Bear was deleted because it looked like your last edit blanked the page. The blanking was actually caused by a software bug and I have restored the page. Sorry about this problem. Note that the aticle could still risk being deleted for another reason, lack of sources showing notability. PrimeHunter (talk) 16:10, 26 July 2008 (UTC)

Chirikof Island

I once knew how to contact Mjpression on his/her talk page, who was very helpful to me yesterday, but I can't see today how I did it. The Chirikof Island page as of a few minutes ago was rife with errors and misperceptions, as is so much info on Alaska. I just edited it with only a small amount of the voluminous lore I have on that island. Appears I unintentionally edited out the coordinates and other geographical data, which I had no quarrel with. I must leave the office now and will miss any immediate feedback. No time to test the web references or do other cleanup. If I have committed editing sins, I will find out Monday I guess.Pilobola (talk) 21:03, 26 July 2008 (UTC)

Left my contact link on their talk page. Mjpresson (talk) 21:12, 26 July 2008 (UTC)

tree well page edit and link to sfgate article

i added the following in january 2008 but my edit is not appearing on the 'tree well' wiki page. i am writing to ask why my edit is not appearing on the page. can you please let me know why it does not appear?

this was my edit:

01:31, 30 January 2008 (hist) (diff) Tree well‎ (added a news story about a man that died from falling into a tree well on 1/27/08 at Homewood in Lake Tahoe, CA)

The link to the story was also added in my edit:

http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/c/a/2008/01/29/BA48UNM5E.DTL&feed=rss.bayarea

There are two other references on the page that describe tree well deaths. This edit and link are a third example from a different ski area.

At minimum, can you please post this article in the reference section (I do not understand how to post to the 'references' section of the page).

Thank you.

Matt

Kovinsky (talk) 21:53, 26 July 2008 (UTC)

Will reply on user's talk page --A Knight Who Says Ni (talk) 00:44, 27 July 2008 (UTC)

FEONA WEGGELAAR

HAS LIED TO HER FAMILY AND FRIENDS ABOUT BEING IN CONTACT WITH AND SLEEPING WITH 'V' SINCE 1st JUNE TIL THE END OF JULY. THIS SHE CALLS THE BIG SECRET.

SHE HAS ALSO MADE FALSE ALLEGATIONS ABOUT THE MAN IN QUESTION TO THOSE AROUND AND HAS DEFAMED HIS CHARACHTER IN ORDER TO LOOK INNOCENT AND TO BE SEEN AS A VICTIM.

THIS HAS EFFECTED AND DETRIMENTED 'V's SELF AND FAMILY AS HE WAS NOT ABLE TO DEFEND THESE ALLEGATIONS THAT WERE MADE IN MAY AND HAS MUCH PROOF TO SHOW THE LIES THAT WERE TOLD BY FEONA.

IF THE LIES THAT WERE TOLD WERE TRUE WHY I ASK THAT FEONA LET 'V' BACK INTO HER HOME AND INTO HER BED RIGHT UP UNTIL THE END OF JULY. THAT ALONE FOR THOSE THAT HAVE BEEN TOLD THE LIES SHOULD BRING DOUBT TO HER CLAIMS. THERE IS SO MUCH PROOF ON HAND TO CHALLENGE THESE LIES.

FEONA HAS BEEN KNOWN TO STRETCH THE TRUTH AND MAKE UP CONSPIRACY THEORIES SUCH AS BOTH 'V' AND HER X HUSBAND BEING ACCUSED OF HAVING A PRIVATE INVESTIGATOR FOLLOW HER AROUND AND BUGGING HER HOUSE. THESE CLAIMS HAVE NO EVIDENCE TO BACK THEM AND ARE QUITE LARGE ACCUSATIONS TO MAKE AND TELL OTHERS IN ORDER TO HAVE THOSE ON HER SIDE.

SHE HAS ALSO BEEN HEARD TO SAY SHE WISHES THAT CERTAIN PEOPLE DIE OR HAVE ACCIDENTS THAT LEAVE THEM DISABLED.ONE EXAMPLE OF THIS WOULD BE TELLING MUTUAL FRIENDS THAT SHE WISHES HER X HUSBAND WOULD BE TAKEN BY A SHARK WHEN HE SWIMS OR IS IN THE WATER BY NATURE OF HIS WORK. CONFESSING THINGS LIKE THIS OPENLY AND PUBLICY SHOULD INDICATE THAT SHE IS FAR FROM THE INNOCENT VICTIM SHE WISHES EVERY ONE TO PERCEIVE HER AS.

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