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== Help Needed == |
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== History archive == |
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This page contains the entire history of my previous talk page. As it has become a vandal target, but has over 5000 edits, making deletion a problem, I moved the history to a history-only archive, to start a fresh new talk page. For most purposes, my traditional archives will be more useful. ] 11:04, 10 June 2008 (UTC) |
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Hello Thatcher, |
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Sorry you dont know me but I saw you on the checkuser request page and thought you might be able to help me. I think I encountered two users who have very similar editing history (articles such as "blond", "Asia", "Europe") and I suspect that they might be sockpuppets. I would love if you could check if there is any connection between user:Kesälauantait and user:Lycander's Aim. I am a new user and I dont know how to check them or whatever you do. If I am wrong and they are not sockpuppets its ok too. Thanks --] (]) 23:25, 25 May 2008 (UTC) |
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*To file a checkuser request, go to ] and follow the instructions, use one of the accounts to create the request and list the other account. You will need to have some evidence that they are not only the same person but violating some policies (like double-voting on polls, agreeing with each other on controversial debates, reverting for each other, etc. ] 21:54, 26 May 2008 (UTC) |
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Thank you Thatcher! You did a very good job. I was shocked by the number of sockpuppets. Several names sounded very familiar such as Grinkov and Kotlyarov and many others. People have a lot of free time these days I guees. : ) --] (]) 13:32, 30 May 2008 (UTC) |
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== RFCU == |
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Hello! |
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First of all, I'm really sorry if I'm bothering you by doing this. |
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I submitted a checkuser request on May 26 at ]. It is the third request I have made in for this banned user/sockpuppeteer with the previous 2 confirming sockpuppetry. I want to see if there's any way to run that check anytime soon. I only ask because {{user|OOC OCD}}, what I believe to be the latest sock from this farm, is engaging in some very flagrant copyvio/BLPvio/personal attacks (something the previous socks are well known for) and it's becoming quite disruptive to other editors on the same articles. |
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I know you have enough on your plate without me pestering you so I will understand if you tell me to wait in line like everyone else, but this guy has been very persistent in the last 4-5 months and I've been trying to keep up with his as well as I can. The community has nicely told this person they are not welcome here but, thanks to his dynamic IP, he is back time and again and he's not ashamed to admit that either. I just want him off of here, that's all. |
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Thanks for listening and, again, please forgive the annoyance. |
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Peace! ] <small>(] • ])</small> 16:23, 29 May 2008 (UTC) |
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: Hi there. I've processed your checkuser case. An uninvolved admin will be along shortly and will most likely block the account. Thanks again - ] <sup>]</sup> 18:49, 29 May 2008 (UTC) |
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== Thankyou == |
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For being a voice of logic. Sadly, I still feel like I've been railroaded off enwiki. Perhaps our paths will cross somewhere else at some point in the future. I hope so. Best, ] (]) 23:26, 29 May 2008 (UTC) |
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== Appealing editing restriction under Misplaced Pages:Requests for arbitration/Digwuren == |
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Hi. Since you were the one to block me, I decided its only fair to address this to yourself. I would like to appeal my placement under these restrictions. Following repeated conflicts with several editors, including being on an incivility warning, and in an ANI case now, it has become apparent (thanks to ]) that my problems are largely confined to the issue of ] ], and can all be resolved via the ] or when the newly proposed ] may come online. With this in mind, would you be able to suggest the process, if one exits, of appealing my placement on this editing restriction, and how to proceed. Regards--] (]) ♠<font color="#BB0000">♥</font><font color="#BB0000">♦</font>♣ 22:19, 31 May 2008 (UTC) |
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== GRP == |
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I noticed you blocked some accounts saying they related to GRP...I found ]. You might want to CU it.] <font color="purple">]</font> 23:17, 31 May 2008 (UTC) |
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:Yes, that's him. No other accounts on that IP though. ] 15:45, 2 June 2008 (UTC) |
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== Intelligent design editors ] thread == |
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Not sure your comment qualifies as a clerk note; would you consider moving it to a proper statement? Being picky, I know, but it's important to recognise what hat you're wearing when commenting (IMO, at least). ] 23:27, 31 May 2008 (UTC) |
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:It's content-neutral advice on filing an effective case. It could apply equally well to any case, for the "prosecution" or "defense". ] 19:06, 2 June 2008 (UTC) |
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== Mistaken Impression == |
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I am afraid you are mistaken in your assertation. I am not the person making "throw away vandal accounts". The IP range that I usually use is a corporate one. There are other people in my department who have created vandal accounts. I have spoken to them regarding the issue and asked them to cease doing so. ] (]) 00:44, 2 June 2008 (UTC) |
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*If true, that is a good thing, and hopefully you won't get caught in any more autoblocks. Unfortunately, it is often difficult to discriminate between good editors and bad editors on shared corporate IPs, and a good editor making vandal accounts for recreation looks very much the same as a good editor who happens to have a bored co-worker. ] 15:44, 2 June 2008 (UTC) |
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** Understood. In this case it is the later unfortunately there is no realistic way to prove this to you. Hopefully I will have availed upon them to cease and there won't be another instance. ] (]) 23:39, 2 June 2008 (UTC) |
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== ] == |
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Hey Thatcher. I'm pretty convinced based on the behavioral evidence that these two users are the same person. Do you think I can simply block based on the CU result? I know it's not "confirmed", but "likely" seems good enough to me. <tt class="plainlinks">]]</tt> 02:30, 3 June 2008 (UTC) |
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*Well, if you were ready to block anyway, and now you know it is not an exact IP match (what would be after 2 years?) but is in the same city and ISP, it seems reasonable to me. ] 02:40, 3 June 2008 (UTC) |
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:*Ok, thanks. I'll go ahead and block. <tt class="plainlinks">]]</tt> 02:43, 3 June 2008 (UTC) |
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== Paknur == |
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Hello Thatcher. I CUed this guy on the suspicion that he was the still-banned {{User|Nadirali}}. However, it wasn't him, but another user whose ban has now expired, except he is now running multiple socks on the same IP. But because I ended up reverting a person who wasn't banned but accidentally came across other socks, can you please take a look for independent 3rd party confirmation? ''']''' ('']'') 02:56, 3 June 2008 (UTC) |
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*It's absolutely obvious. Betacommand's user compare tool shows numerous edits to the same articles, and this is a recreation of similar behavior. (On the other hand, {{user|Boatrights}} is another banned user Hkelkar.) What do you want to do about it? ] 03:13, 3 June 2008 (UTC) |
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:Well since I reverted the guy under the assumption that he was banned, and he isn't, I just figured that I should ask someone else to confirm it lest I be accused of framing someone I was reverting. I just need you to list the exact guys on that IP- there is one guy who's ban has expired and a whole stack of socks and I'll ask someone else to block it. ''']''' ('']'') 03:18, 3 June 2008 (UTC) |
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*{{confirmed}} that Paknur is {{userlinks|Siddiqui}}, who was banned for one year on 4 March 2007 as a result of ]. He is currently using sockpuppet accounts: |
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#{{user|Nawabshahi}} |
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#{{user|Paknur}} |
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#{{user|Mirza Barlas}} |
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#{{user|Misaq Rabab}} |
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--] 10:46, 3 June 2008 (UTC) |
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== Question == |
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Hello. Thank you for handling that RFCU I filed. Just a one question. How long should be the second block for that very same crime? Thanks. - ] (]) 12:23, 3 June 2008 (UTC) |
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== Privacy == |
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I'm probably missing something very simple here, but how do I e-mail you? -] (]) 17:45, 3 June 2008 (UTC) |
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*Sorry, you should be able to use the "Email this user" link that is on the side bar of every user's user and talk page. You can also do it directly at thatcher131 at gmail dot com. ] 17:57, 3 June 2008 (UTC) |
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*{{ec}} You can just ] - ] <sup>]</sup> 17:59, 3 June 2008 (UTC) |
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**(Does special/emailuser work if the other user has not specified an email address?) ] 18:15, 3 June 2008 (UTC) |
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*** Per ], the answer is nope. There would be no means of reply, for one ... - ] <sup>]</sup> 18:48, 3 June 2008 (UTC) |
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== ] == |
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You found the two users to be the same, but did you determine if they are the same as the IP address? That IP contributed again to the article, still injecting their POV. ] (]) 18:49, 3 June 2008 (UTC) |
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==GRP== |
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... is back at the Chicago Public Library right ''now'' making new socks. Can you quick look at 64.107.0.0/22 and 66.99.0.0/22 (I'll make a formal CU request if you would rather). I suspect is one, but I think he might have made a bunch before I shut down the ranges again. Thanks for your help, ] ] 20:02, 3 June 2008 (UTC) |
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This page contains the entire history of my previous talk page. As it has become a vandal target, but has over 5000 edits, making deletion a problem, I moved the history to a history-only archive, to start a fresh new talk page. For most purposes, my traditional archives will be more useful. Thatcher 11:04, 10 June 2008 (UTC)