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link #7 is borked

What is a good name for this article ?

The article, Misogynist_Acid_attacks, was created, but then had a speedy deletion tag placed on it, then moved from Misogynist_Acid_attacks to Acid attack here and slightly expanded. I think the name Misogynist attacks is more suitable than Misogynist_Acid_attacks or Acid attack, because there are similar attacks in those parts of Asia where burning or scalding oil or water are used or women set on fire instead. However, these attacks are not necessarily committed by true misogynists, which are chronic general woman-haters, but men who felt jilted by a certain woman or situation at one time. I don't know what a better name would be. Nevertheless, this topic is important enough to have its own article in Misplaced Pages. H Padleckas 04:18, 29 Apr 2005 (UTC)

I originated the Misogynist Acid attack page, and am disappointed the way it has been altered, to an extent. I am not a feminist. However, it must be noted that most attacks are motivated by the desire of the attacker that the women should blindly submit to them, and the attacks are portrayed as "punishment"; this is why I define it as misogynist. Actually, it is misanthropic, and needs to be punished more severely, and in such a manner that the "romantic" edge of it in South Asian eyes is taken off. Lastly, can I request that the Pak acid attack link be restored? Lucio Mas

Have done it. Lucio Mas

I have rewritten this article and left the name as "Acid Attack," as I find this to be the most neutral term for it. Some do not believe misogyny exists, and to call something a misogynistic something-or-other assumes a common belief in misogyny. It also disregards some opinions regarding the characterization of these attacks as misogynistic a result of Western pressure/ethnocentrism. I've tried to address this. onesong

Moreover, "vitriolage" redirects here, and "vitrioleuse" redirects to "vitriolage". Given that, in Europe, vitrolage was largely perceived as a crime committed by women (whether or not this is accurate is debatable, but, certainly, "vitrioleuse" is encountered far more often than "vitrioleur", which I've only seen in connection with French Indochina), a strictly neutral POV would seem to be indicated. (Granted, the article doesn't currently address vitriolage in the historical European context, but I would hope that it would someday.) Eastcheap (talk) 07:06, 23 June 2008 (UTC)

Definition

Although this article was informative, it did not explicitly define what an Acid Attack is.

I second this, it doesn't actually say what an Acid Attack is!

Ladies and gents, let me repost the first paragraph: "Acid attacks are a violent phenomenon that primarily occur in parts of certain South Asian countries, such as India, Pakistan and Bangladesh, and are often perpetrated by males against females. Perpetrators of these attacks throw acid at their victims, burning them. The consequences are multiple: permanent marks on the body, disfiguration and potentially blindness."onesong

More importantly, what about stomach-acid attacks? Very different from the subject of this article. -OrangeDog 13:18, 1 June 2006 (UTC)

Picture

That picture is really disturbing for being right on top of the article.

The image should be removed. It's unclear who the perpetrators are, where the photo was taken, when it was taken, the only reliable source is a record label and it has an image of a president (Reagan?), making it clearly non-neutral.-Wafulz 22:10, 19 July 2007 (UTC)

I'm unaware what image you are discussing, assume it has been deleted, however this one might be useful (taken by a Finnish journalist for an article on the phenomenon in India for the Finnish daily Hufvudstadsbladet. I'm certain a local upload would be do-able under fair-use (right to quote/quotation right under Finnish law)): direct link, article (Swedish language). Alternatively, the author could be contacted for permission. 85.134.21.38 15:34, 22 October 2007 (UTC)

re-working the page a little

The page was heavily tagged with {{originalresearch}} and

I've added {{Unbalanced-section}} to the Victims and Treatment section becuase, while notable references to male-male and male-female acid attacks would be fine these attacks have no encyclopedic notability - not referenced in multiple mainstream third-party sources. Similarly I have concerns about teh notability of all the links in the 'Acid attacks around the world' section. If these cannot be improved by April 15th they will have to go--Cailil 23:55, 28 March 2008 (UTC)

I've removed the paragraph with the notice you added, by deleting one reference that had a dead link as a cite, and moving the other reference to the Incidents section. I believe that at least some, if not all of the incidents meet the general notability guideline established in WP:NOTABLE, primarily by receiving significant coverage in reliable sources. If you wish, however, we can evaluate these together on a case-by-case basis. Blackworm (talk) 01:51, 11 April 2008 (UTC)

Also why would only male-male or male-female attacks be notable? Is a WikiProject or other group reviewing this article? Blackworm (talk) 02:12, 11 April 2008 (UTC)

I concur that a lot of the incidents meet the general notability guildeline. --DavidD4scnrt (talk) 03:56, 11 April 2008 (UTC)

On the matter of the news reports notability, some (the Ethiopian case in particular) have received wide spread reporting but others have not. Even still for me there is a due weight issue with all of them; on top of that it seems like a list for a list's sake. I do think the more notable ones should be kept in some form - maybe the external links. I do think a case by case review would be helpful - one or two might deserve a paragraph in the article itself.

On the "why would only male-male or male-female attacks be notable?" - you may have picked me up wrong and I may have not expressed myself adequately. I was talking about the specific incidents - the ones you removed (in my view rightly) as OR and undue - which were non-notable - I'm not in any way saying that female-male attacks would be any less notable than others, because they would be just as notable as male-female or male-male or female-female attacks when they get significant coverage--Cailil 21:30, 11 April 2008 (UTC)

Thanks for clearing that up. I think we mostly agree on what should be done here. You seem to feel more strongly about the list than I do, but I agree with your solutions. Blackworm (talk) 00:08, 12 April 2008 (UTC)

Expansion

Does anyone have any objections to creating a section Motivation_of_attackers

with a new paragraph added

Religious reasons have also been given for attacks. Islamists in South Asia, Iran, Afghanistan, Gaza, Srinagar and Lebanon have been accused of using or threatening to use acid to attack the faces of women in an effort to coerce them to refrain from wearing makeup or allegedly immodest dress. According to a Rand Corporation commentary by Cheryl Benard, "in Pakistan, Kashmir, and Afghanistan, hundreds of women have been blinded or maimed when acid was thrown on their unveiled faces by male fanatics who considered them improperly dressed," for failure to wear hijab.

Crazysuit has made an edit summary complaint that the change is original_research#Synthesis_of_published_material_which_advances_a_position
but I don't think that's justified based on the sources I gave. --BoogaLouie (talk) 17:58, 26 August 2008 (UTC)

I have 3 concerns. First the name of the section should probably be: "Supposed motivation of attackers". Second the length of the quote in the footnote is too long for comfort. And third, the main point of the paragraph is synthesizing sources to advance a position.
However, the claim being made is not extraordinary, so my suggestion is this - can you find one source that states: Islamists in South Asia, Iran, Afghanistan, Gaza, Srinagar and Lebanon have been accused of using or threatening to use acid to attack the faces of women in an effort to coerce them to refrain from wearing makeup or allegedly immodest dress. At present linking the 7 examples (although factually accurate) is essay style & seems like a novel argument. However I'm sure I came across something similar to your point in The Encyclopaedia of the Muslim World. I'll see if I can find the reference--Cailil 19:20, 26 August 2008 (UTC)

1. Molavi, Afshini The Soul of Iran, Norton, (2005), p.152: Following the mandating of the covering of hair by women in the Islamic Republic of Iran, a hijab-less woman `was shopping. A bearded young man approached me. He said he would throw acid on my face if I did not comply with the rules."
2. Informed Comment: Thoughts on the Middle East, History, and Religion "Gulbuddin Hikmatyar ... as a youth used to throw acid on the faces of unveiled girls in Afghanistan."
3. In 2006, a group in Gaza calling itself "Just Swords of Islam" is reported to have claimed it threw acid at the face of a young woman who was dressed "immodestly," and warned other women in Gaza that they must wear hijab. Dec 2, 2006 Gaza women warned of immodesty
4. a 2001 "acid attack on four young Muslim women in Srinagar ... by an unknown militant outfit, and the swift compliance by women of all ages on the issue of wearing the chadar (head-dress) in public." The Pioneer, August 14, 2001, "Acid test in the face of acid attacks" Sandhya Jain
5. Kashmir women face threat of acid attacks from militants, Independent, The (London), Aug 30, 2001 by Peter Popham in Delhi
6. 10 August, 2001, Kashmir women face acid attacks
7. Iranian journalist Amir Taheri tells of an 18-year-old college student at the American University in Beirut who on the eve of `Ashura in 1985 "was surrounded and attacked by a group of youths -- all members of Hezb-Allah, the Party of Allah. They objected to the `lax way` in which they thought she was dressed, and accused her of `insulting the blood of the martyrs` by not having her hair fully covered. Then one of the youths threw `a burning liquid` on her face." According to Taheri, "scores -- some say hundreds -- of women ... in Baalbek, in Beirut, in southern Lebanon and in many other Muslim cities from Tunis to Kuala Lumpur," were attacked in a similar manner from 1980 to 1986. Taheri, Amir, Holy Terror : the Inside Story of Islamic Terrorism, Adler & Adler, 1987, p.12
8. Commentary. "French Tussle Over Muslim Head Scarf is Positive Push for Women's Rights" by Cheryl Benard

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