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Please be nice.

adoption

I have a few adoptees who are challenging in various ways, and I have to think how to rescue them from various situations. Because of this until recently I said I didn't need any more adoptees (I have seven). But if you promise to be well-behaved and not cause me much trouble, I'd be glad to :) Sticky Parkin 03:38, 15 August 2008 (UTC)

wikipedia rules

-articles like this don't usually last long on wikipedia mainspace, so I took the liberty of moving it to User:903M/Wikipedia_rules. Did you know that by writing User:903M/name of page in the double brackets, you can create pages in your own userspace for tinkering with anything you are working on?

The reason why articles about wikipedia rarely last is that the ones already about them are quite thorough. So if you can't find the facts you wanted to include in the articles Misplaced Pages or Criticism of Misplaced Pages, you might consider contributing to them. Sticky Parkin 03:57, 15 August 2008 (UTC)

I'm off to sleep now, don't get in trouble while I'm gone.:) Sticky Parkin 04:03, 15 August 2008 (UTC)

Provisional Editorial Council

Sure, I'll join. Who are the other members? --harej 05:54, 18 August 2008 (UTC)

90210:)- I suggest that you discuss who is going to be a member or provisional member, on the article's talk page so the other editors know the plan. I suspect by the panel of seven, people meant it to be of quite senior editors (as in been here a very long time) or something like that. Sticky Parkin 21:13, 18 August 2008 (UTC)

Setting up your own thing rarely works because people think people doing so are busybodies, here to work some sort of agenda on wiki, or going over the heads of admins etc. I would seriously advise you to stay editing topics in the main encyclopedia space primarily, as I think you're doing, and discussing article content, especially as a new user. This doesn't mean I think you're being 'bad' by doing this, just that there's a pecking order on wiki. You can see part of what happens to those with strong opinions about how wikipedia should be run, on User talk:Abd. Of course, I could be wrong and you're welcome to try these things.:) Sticky Parkin 11:22, 19 August 2008 (UTC)

Hi!

I'm an adoptee of Sticky's as well! Wanna shake? (Zaps hand, chars it.) Oops, sorry! Cyborgs have a hard life! See ya later, New Addition!--Editor510 14:49, 20 August 2008 (UTC)

PS

I have had some trouble in the past. I used to be alot more AGF than this till this happened.

OH YES she does!

Well, a pleasure. When you need comic relief, I'm your person!--Editor510 07:17, 21 August 2008 (UTC)

Nooo

Please don't edit war, or do stuff to prove a point. You will just get in trouble, edit something about pokemon or something lol- just joking, of course you can edit these articles, but there's no need to edit war. At some point you have to cut your losses, before you start having a go at someone, and have a rest from whichever particular article it's happening on, or try and compromise with those there rather than force your changes with a war. That won't work as a long term strategy as there's always people who will revert you. I say this as your adopter giving you advice. Sticky Parkin 02:54, 22 August 2008 (UTC)

This is just a website, no need to get upset.:) And if you are upset, there are more constructive ways of channeling your feelings on wikipedia and off. Sticky Parkin 12:44, 1 September 2008 (UTC)

Administrator's notice board discussion

Hello, 903M. This message is being sent to inform you that there currently is a discussion at Misplaced Pages:Administrators' noticeboard/Incidents regarding the "Provisional Editorial Council" notice on your user page. The discussion can be reached by following this link: WP:ANI#Userbox claiming inappropriate WP credentials?. Thank you, EyeSerene 18:46, 5 September 2008 (UTC)

Hi, I'm the admin who started the conversation. I was really just trying to see if there was a relevant policy before I left you a message. I'm concerned that your userbox has the potential to confuse new users and I was planning on asking you to remove it. There really is no Provisional Editorial Council and it's considered, at least informally, poor etiquette to represent yourself on WP as having credentials that you really don't have. Again, I don't know if there's a policy on this, but I'd like to ask you to remove the userbox just the same. Thanks. Ronnotel (talk) 20:04, 5 September 2008 (UTC)

Clarification is helpful. Thanks. Ronnotel (talk) 03:53, 6 September 2008 (UTC)

So pleased

		The Barnstar of Peace
		I was so pleased to see you resolve a conflict by being amenable and by clarification. This is what you needed in your editing. Keep it up!:) Sticky Parkin 12:44, 6 September 2008 (UTC)

P.S. I've emailed you. Sticky Parkin 12:44, 6 September 2008 (UTC)

hmmm

If you look at the section that quote only occupies about a line. and it's followed by saying that Thad then supported McCain. Undue weight would be if that was the only thing said about McCain in the section, or if it was made into a paragraph or something. That section about McCain is very favourable. The only thing we really read about him in the UK is his age and health problems.:) Sticky Parkin 13:02, 7 September 2008 (UTC)

Ok, I thought that a well supported statement of fact would be better than one person's opinion. For example, documenting that Hitler committed war crimes rather than "Churchill said Hitler is a war criminal". 903M (talk) 14:48, 7 September 2008 (UTC)

Biden article

903M, if you can find a citation where Biden acknowledges having a hair treatment or operation of some kind, I'll consider adding it. But your repeated edits so far are relying upon unreliable sources per WP:RS (an op-ed column, a commercial press release) and you are disrupting a very high-profile article for a near-trivial matter. And please learn how to properly format citations, just sticking a URL inside <ref></ref> tags is no good for an article like this. Wasted Time R (talk) 01:36, 8 September 2008 (UTC)

Again, please read WP:RS. It doesn't matter how many random websites on Google searches say something, or how many discussion boards talk about something. You need a scholarly or mainstream book or a reliable mainstream newspaper or magazine that does fact-checking or a statement from Biden himself. That's the way it works. Wasted Time R (talk) 01:42, 8 September 2008 (UTC)

A suggestion -- keep your responses here, so that they aren't scattered. I'll watch for them.

Of the three cites you keep trying to put in:

• This Boston paper reference is an editorial opinion column, written by a well-known political opinion writer. Such columns are not treated as WP:RS, because they are usually not fact-checked and are usually skewed by the partisan motives of the writer. It's not the same as a regular news story by a regular reporter.
• This Times of London piece is also more of an analysis piece rather than reporting, although it's a bit better than the first.
• This press release is just some doctor trying to sell his hair loss services. Completely worthless as a reliable source.

Do you understand what WP:RS is and isn't? Wasted Time R (talk) 01:57, 8 September 2008 (UTC)

Regarding the two surgeries, quote me the passage in the NYT article where it says so. I must be missing it. Wasted Time R (talk) 01:58, 8 September 2008 (UTC)

wiki

It seems Wasten Time R found it harder to read the link because your ref tag was slightly wrong in this version . Some people (not saying WTR is like this) won't look at something if it takes them a bit of work to do so. It seems the two of you have sorted it out now and the article includes your info.:)

Next time, don't use the warning hand :) , except against a really obvious vandal or someone making extreme personal attacks. Sticky Parkin 12:58, 8 September 2008 (UTC)

Hey, Sticky! You just used the warning hand and I didn't meet your criteria for the hand! :) Happy editing, Sticky! Thanks for the tips. 903M (talk) 03:47, 13 September 2008 (UTC)

Lol that's true:) I suppose I was copying you- you're an inspiration.:) Sticky Parkin 15:55, 13 September 2008 (UTC)

MfD nomination of Talk:Track Palin

Talk:Track Palin, a page you substantially contributed to, has been nominated for deletion. Your opinions on the matter are welcome; please participate in the discussion by adding your comments at Misplaced Pages:Miscellany for deletion/Talk:Track Palin and please be sure to sign your comments with four tildes (~~~~). You are free to edit the content of Talk:Track Palin during the discussion but should not remove the miscellany for deletion template from the top of the page; such removal will not end the deletion discussion. Thank you. Grutness...wha? 01:15, 14 September 2008 (UTC)

Substing {{welcome}}

Hi, I noticed your welcome notice at User talk:Efrym87 and just want to let you know (or remind you, whichever may be the case) that welcome templates should generally be subst'ed (see Template:Welcome#Usage). Best, –Black Falcon 14:55, 14 September 2008 (UTC)

Ford

In the image's page itself, it says

"It is believed that the use of low-resolution images of book covers

   * to illustrate an article discussing the book in question
   * on the English-language Misplaced Pages, hosted on servers in the United States by the non-profit Wikimedia Foundation,

qualifies as fair use under United States copyright law. Other use of this image, on Misplaced Pages or elsewhere, might be copyright infringement." Strictly speaking, I wouldn't say this image is fair use by this criteria, and I agree with you it's unnecessary as unlike what the image's rationale says, we don't need something else to prove Ford is notable. But it depends whether you want to get in an argument about it.:) If people have agreed to it on the talk page, it might be too much effort to disagree and you mightn't get very far.:) Sticky Parkin 13:25, 17 September 2008 (UTC)