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Petey Piranha

I was just trying to be bold when making it into an actual article. Can we chat a little on why not to make Petey an actual article before reverting again? Fire Emblem Freak! 17:43, 1 November 2008 (UTC)

The character does not and will not ever establish notability. There is absolutely no reasoning as to why it could possibly establish a full article. If you're insistent on keeping it around, I'll just end up putting it up for deletion, so it would be better to just keep it as a redirect. TTN (talk) 17:37, 1 November 2008 (UTC)

I see... Fine then. Just trying to help. Fire Emblem Freak! 17:43, 1 November 2008 (UTC)

Talk:Universe of The Legend of Zelda

Please add your input on the debate at this page. I'm willing to abide by whatever decision you and other editors come to.Not even Mr. Lister's Koromon survived intact. 00:32, 2 November 2008 (UTC)

Additionally - if you did indeed put forward support for merging the Races page, could you please explain where? I wholly accept its merge, but I can't find anywhere where you voiced support for it, as was claimed.

Also - I apologize if my comments on the talk page seem like an accusation at you. They aren't meant to, and I worded them extremely badly.Not even Mr. Lister's Koromon survived intact. 00:36, 2 November 2008 (UTC)

Category:Frankenstein characters

I am restoring the characters that you unilaterally removed on the grounds of the category's being "useless". If you believe the category is "useless" then nominate it for CFD. Otherwise please do not depopulate it without discussion. Thank you. Otto4711 (talk) 23:38, 2 November 2008 (UTC)

There is following necessary process and then there is just being unnecessarily bureaucratic. It only lists a few relevant characters, while the rest are trivial, so it should be easy to tell that it is just pointless. TTN (talk) 23:57, 2 November 2008 (UTC)

TTN I'd like to say your edits are great! I agree with the person who awarded you the barnstar below, and think you should keep up the good work. I don't believe that every fictional character from every movie, or every episode from every tv show, deserves it's own article. So keep it up, and I'll try to help (a good place for me to start is to see where others just decide to go and revert your edits, and boldly revert them). 128.223.131.21 (talk) 01:01, 6 November 2008 (UTC)

AfD summary context

I have a request. When you nominate fictional subjects for AfD, could you mention the fictional source in the AfD summary, rather than just saying "its series"? It seems you do this sometimes, Misplaced Pages:Articles_for_deletion/Doctor_Septimus_Pretorius_(2nd_nomination), but not usually Misplaced Pages:Articles_for_deletion/Nick_Naylor, Misplaced Pages:Articles_for_deletion/Dimitri_the_Echidna, Misplaced Pages:Articles_for_deletion/Willona_Woods. With such a high AfD volume, being able to tell at least which series you were working in would be helpful (and the third-to-last bullet point at WP:AFDHOWTO supports giving a little more context than you typically do.) gnfnrf (talk) 14:34, 3 November 2008 (UTC)

I guess that's something I'll try to remember. TTN (talk) 18:16, 3 November 2008 (UTC)

Barnstar of Diligence

		The Barnstar of Diligence
		For your many AfDs in the area of non-notable film characters. ErikTheBikeMan (talk) 19:18, 3 November 2008 (UTC)

Feedback on template

You have a good sense of where fanboy enthusiasm gets in the way of the bigger picture, so can I get a second opinion about the need of User:Sgeureka/Carnivàle template? It is not used in any of the five Carnivàle articles at this time, all C subarticles are linked from the main article via hatnotes, but at least two of the C lists have to use SeeAlso sections to crossreference to other C articles. If even you are neutral on this, then this template would be alright in the eyes of most wikipedians and I'd move it to template space. – sgeureka 09:05, 4 November 2008 (UTC)

I think it would probably be fine to use it. You can see them fairly clearly from the main article, but it certainly wouldn't hurt anything to connect them. I personally hate see also sections, so removing those is also a plus. TTN (talk) 18:24, 5 November 2008 (UTC)

Interested in a demolition job?

TTN, since you have a reputation for AfD'ing non-notable fictional elements, would you be interested in taking a look at {{vmarsnav}}? Cornucopia and I are in the process of cleaning up and redirecting some of the content there, and we haven't gotten any pushback yet, but if you were going to go through that series of articles, what would you merge, redirect, or delete? Thanks! Jclemens (talk) 01:37, 6 November 2008 (UTC)

To TTN, EVERY fictional character is non-notable. If he had his way you'd get rid of everything. ----DanTD (talk) 05:37, 6 November 2008 (UTC)

Don't put words in other people's mouths. -- Ned Scott 05:51, 6 November 2008 (UTC)

Correct. DanTD, please read WP:CIVIL and WP:ATTACK. If you don't have anything constructive to say, don't bother saying anything. Lord Sesshomaru (talk • edits) 06:19, 6 November 2008 (UTC)

Well, excuse me for trying to prevent articles from being destroyed. I just had another image I uploaded tagged for deletion again because people like TTN are so eager to get rid of the articles they're attached to. If there were a way to say this without even sounding like I'm attacking him, I'd like to know what it is. ---DanTD (talk) 05:21, 7 November 2008 (UTC)

Not describing people with various titles, no strong bias-inducing words, and not jumping to conclusions. For example, respectively, calling User:Akradecki a "communist", saying articles are being "destroyed", and very promptly reuploading Image:Anti-Red China Poster.jpg, saying it was an unjust deletion. There are guidelines on what makes or breaks a contibution, and more often than not, something is removed because it's lacking something. Learn what you did wrong and just make sure it's done right, instead of finding a scapegoat. - Zero1328 _Talk? 06:57, 7 November 2008 (UTC)

Did I call User:Akradecki a communist? I don't think so. Not unless he was originally under the user name User:Dzhugashvili, who did in fact proudly claim to be a communist. And judging by the age of Akradecki's user page, it's safe to say that he wasn't. And, a lot of articles are being destroyed, some of which are justified. ----DanTD (talk) 19:37, 7 November 2008 (UTC)

Fifi Le Fume

You might want to check the other Tiny Toons characters, none of them seem notable either. Ten Pound Hammer and his otters • 16:59, 10 November 2008 (UTC)

Small request regarding your merges

I noticed that when you merged Abe (Oddworld) into Oddworld , you didn't name Abe (Oddworld) in your edit summary. When you are merging one article into another, could you please name the article you are merging in your edit summary, per the instructions at WP:MERGE:

• Save both , and note the merger (including the page names) in the edit summaries. (This step is required in order to conform with §4(I) of the GFDL. Do not omit it or omit the page names.)
  

Thanks. Bláthnaid 22:27, 10 November 2008 (UTC)

Seeing as barely anyone else does it, it's generally just a waste of five seconds. If it becomes more common, I'll start doing it at that point. TTN (talk) 18:46, 12 November 2008 (UTC)

At the very least it might be a good idea to do it to set an example for others, since it says that it's a requirement to conform to the GFDL. It's only five seconds, right? - Zero1328 _Talk? 11:38, 13 November 2008 (UTC)

Well, I've been doing it since I was a newbie. I was under the impression that it's best practise to name the articles. There needs to be some way of getting to the edit history of the article that has been merged. Isn't that part of the reason that an article that has been merged cannot be deleted? It would also be a good idea in case a conglomerate article full of information from many merged articles is transwikied to something like Wikia in the future. You are an active and high-profile editor and--like Zero1328 says--you would set an example for others. Bláthnaid 19:43, 13 November 2008 (UTC)

Dizzy Devil

No worries re: the re-direct, I don't think anyone expected it to be re-opened the same day. Have a nice day. StarM 20:44, 12 November 2008 (UTC)

Your first BarnSakura

		The Anime and Manga BarnSakura
		For without you we'd be drowning in anime and manga cruft. -- Goodraise (talk) 00:34, 13 November 2008 (UTC)

And because you're too busy AfDing articles, keeping your userpage from being vandalized, and defending yourself against an incredible amount of shit, I went through your talk page archives and counted your awards, to remind you of how much your edits are valued. Here is the result:

File:800px-VG Ribbon.pngFile:800px-VG Ribbon.png

(I took the liberty of counting 3 more exotic awards as whatever Barnstar I thought closest.) -- Goodraise (talk) 00:34, 13 November 2008 (UTC)

Help me understand

Sorry if this is a silly question but we all have to start somewhere. What exactly do you mean when you say "This character does not establish notability independent of the Bartimaeus Trilogy". And could you give an example of a fictional character that does meet this criterion and why. Thank you. --Beligaronia (talk) 04:12, 13 November 2008 (UTC)

Notability is explained here and here. A character notable of its own would be Palpatine, because he has had significant coverage in reliable independent sources. -- Goodraise (talk) 10:26, 13 November 2008 (UTC)

Nominating multiple related articles for deletion

I noticed that you had nominated a number of related articles as seperate afds. For ease of nominating and discussion you can nominate related subjects in one single afd. See WP:BUNDLE for details how to do this. --neon white talk 00:40, 16 November 2008 (UTC)

People often use mass nominations as an excuse to vote to keep them all. I like to avoid that possibility unless there are hundreds of closely related articles, where nominating groups of ten makes more sense. TTN (talk) 00:54, 16 November 2008 (UTC)

Creed Diskenth

Greetings, if you don't mind, could you tell me why this article was deleted, was it because of the lack of references. OgasawaraSachiko (Talk) 12:32, 16 November 2008 (UTC)

The article does not contain any real world information (reading over WP:WAF would help you) from reliable sources. It needs information detailed in WAF to stand as an article. TTN (talk) 14:12, 16 November 2008 (UTC)

Kudos!

Hi TTN, just thought I'd drop by and say how much I appreciate the work you do at AfD. It seems as though you're one of the few people there who still remember that we do have standards for verifiability, notability and original research and that those standards should be upheld. Good work. Reyk _YO! 14:20, 18 November 2008 (UTC)

Careful

Hello there TTN. Can I ask you to be a little bit more careful when merging content? You removed content from List of Densetsu no Stafy characters and placed it in Densetsu no Stafy (series) but you didn't give any attribution in the edit summary so it's a violation of the GFDL at the minute. When readding the content to the new article, you should of linked to where you got it from in the edit summary, e.g. "Text taken directly from http://en.wikipedia.org/List_of_Densetsu_no_Stafy_characters#Characters " - that's the only way our content license can be satisfied. Regards, Ryan Postlethwaite 17:34, 24 November 2008 (UTC)