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| == Nogueira Ferrão == | == Nogueira Ferrão == | ||
| You may be interested in cleaning up the article ]. Cheers. ] (]) 22:50, 2 February 2008 (UTC) | You may be interested in cleaning up the article ]. Cheers. ] (]) 22:50, 2 February 2008 (UTC) | ||
| == Maria Thayer == | |||
| Just wondering why you reverted my edits to her filmography. Just so you know, Misplaced Pages filmographies don't include DVD extras, and they also don't list the episodes that someone starred in. Other than that, I didn't remove anything. Besides, it looks far better in a table format than an unruly list. ] (<sup>]</sup>/<sub>]</sub>) 19:18, 9 December 2008 (UTC) | |||
| :First of all, please remember to be ]. There's no use to bite anyone's head off over some constructive criticism. There is no problem with adding information where none exists. However, there IS a problem with erasing good work done by other editors with no regard for their contributions. IMDB, not Misplaced Pages is generally the place for episode lists and DVD extras, not Misplaced Pages. (And yes, those entries WERE DVD extras. They were not released separately, and they were made solely as a companion piece to the main film. They don't belong on Misplaced Pages, save for a brief mention on the ] page.) It's better to have a nice, neat table that lists the more pertinent information in a readable manner than to have a messy gob of information that doesn't add much to the article over a table. I really am trying to be constructive here. If you have any other problems or questions in regard to this or whatever else, please feel free to drop me a line on my talk page. ] (<sup>]</sup>/<sub>]</sub>) 14:20, 10 December 2008 (UTC) | |||
| ::I know that they were DVD extras because I own the DVD. They are short behind-the-scenes extras made specifically for the DVD release. There is a difference between a documentary about a film and a DVD extra. Something like ] or ] are documentaries about the making of a film. "Adam's Accepted Chronicles" and "Reject Nation: The Making of Accepted" are DVD extras. Also, please remember that ]. Places like IMDB exist for minute detail about films and the people who make them. Misplaced Pages does not. Misplaced Pages's purpose is to distill the information so that mostly the notable information remains. Besides, there is a link to her IMDB page in the article itself, so there is nothing stopping a reader from finding that information in one click. And despite your assertions to the contrary, I am being constructive. I'm trying to help and you are responding with hostility. ] (<sup>]</sup>/<sub>]</sub>) 14:43, 10 December 2008 (UTC) | |||
| :::The biggest question is what is ]. It's not a matter of picking and choosing information for the sake of it, it's discriminatly including information that is notable, and not every behind-the-scenes DVD featurette and commentary that someone appears in. I say again, the place for this information is IMDB, not Misplaced Pages. It doesn't need every bit of detail to be the most comprehensive encyclopedia on the planet. If that were the case, then it would include every garage band that anyone decided to put on here, and any struggling actor or actress trying to get a role. I've tried being civil, but if you continue to act with such disregard and malicious indignation I will be forced to take this to an administrator. Also, it's very difficult to have a discussion with you when you continue to delete my messages. I don't understand why you're getting so angry when I'm trying to have a conversation with you. I'd appreciate it if you could calm down and discuss this without erasing comments that you deem "negative". ] (<sup>]</sup>/<sub>]</sub>) 14:53, 10 December 2008 (UTC) | |||
| ::::Then if I try to get this resolved, you need to keep these comments on your talk page, at least for a little while. If I try to get mediation, then the mediators will need to see the full extent of our conversations to fully understand the problem. Please do not delete this again until it's over. ] (<sup>]</sup>/<sub>]</sub>) 15:02, 10 December 2008 (UTC) | |||
| :::::That isn't how this works. A talk page isn't a vanity page that is supposed to look pretty and great, it is a means for communications to be utilized by editors. My interest is in getting this issue resolved. I have never been confrontational, and you have been nothing but. Trust me, once this is resolved you can delete whatever you want from your talk page. But for now, for the purpose of having this conversation, it needs to stay. ] (<sup>]</sup>/<sub>]</sub>) 15:06, 10 December 2008 (UTC) | |||
| ::::::Likewise, it should also be noted that a mediation is not just something that you let happen and hear the result. You need to agree to mediation and be actively involved. ] (<sup>]</sup>/<sub>]</sub>) 15:10, 10 December 2008 (UTC) | |||
| :::::::I simply felt that this was the best way to deal with the issue, as I feel we have exhausted one-on-one discussion. I the mediation does not work, then we can take it further, perhaps to arbitration. However, I feel that if we are both receptive to the mediation, then we can resolve this in a peaceful and civil manner. ] (<sup>]</sup>/<sub>]</sub>) 15:33, 10 December 2008 (UTC) | |||
| ::::::::So? Will you accept the mediation? ] (<sup>]</sup>/<sub>]</sub>) 15:39, 10 December 2008 (UTC) | |||
| :::::::::That's exactly what mediation is. The only difference is that this happens in a formal manner. If you do accept it, then you need to go ] and sign your name right below mine for it to begin. Also, I ask that you please stop removing content from my talk page. ] (<sup>]</sup>/<sub>]</sub>) 15:44, 10 December 2008 (UTC) | |||
| ::::::::::Please, I need to know if you are going to accept the moderation or not. Again, you need to go ] and sign your name under mine in order for the mediation to begin. This will be the best way to resolve this issue. ] (<sup>]</sup>/<sub>]</sub>) 15:51, 10 December 2008 (UTC) | |||
| ==Proposition== | ==Proposition== | ||
| Working on both articles as we speak. I'll hit you back once I'm done. --] (]) 22:07, 24 November 2008 (UTC) | Working on both articles as we speak. I'll hit you back once I'm done. --] (]) 22:07, 24 November 2008 (UTC) | ||
| *] and ]. Have at 'em. --] (]) 03:28, 25 November 2008 (UTC) | *] and ]. Have at 'em. --] (]) 03:28, 25 November 2008 (UTC) | ||
| == Maria Thayer mediation notification == | |||
| A ] has been filed with the ] that lists you as a party. The Mediation Committee requires that all parties listed in a mediation must be notified of the mediation. Please review the request at ], and indicate whether you agree or disagree to mediation. If you are unfamiliar with mediation on Misplaced Pages, please refer to ]. Please note there is a seven-day time limit on all parties responding to the request with their agreement or disagreement to mediation. Thanks, ] (<sup>]</sup>/<sub>]</sub>) 15:26, 10 December 2008 (UTC) | |||
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Nogueira Ferrão
You may be interested in cleaning up the article Nogueira Ferrão. Cheers. The Ogre (talk) 22:50, 2 February 2008 (UTC)
Maria Thayer
Just wondering why you reverted my edits to her filmography. Just so you know, Misplaced Pages filmographies don't include DVD extras, and they also don't list the episodes that someone starred in. Other than that, I didn't remove anything. Besides, it looks far better in a table format than an unruly list. Rwiggum (/Contrib) 19:18, 9 December 2008 (UTC)
- First of all, please remember to be civil. There's no use to bite anyone's head off over some constructive criticism. There is no problem with adding information where none exists. However, there IS a problem with erasing good work done by other editors with no regard for their contributions. IMDB, not Misplaced Pages is generally the place for episode lists and DVD extras, not Misplaced Pages. (And yes, those entries WERE DVD extras. They were not released separately, and they were made solely as a companion piece to the main film. They don't belong on Misplaced Pages, save for a brief mention on the Accepted page.) It's better to have a nice, neat table that lists the more pertinent information in a readable manner than to have a messy gob of information that doesn't add much to the article over a table. I really am trying to be constructive here. If you have any other problems or questions in regard to this or whatever else, please feel free to drop me a line on my talk page. Rwiggum (/Contrib) 14:20, 10 December 2008 (UTC)
- I know that they were DVD extras because I own the DVD. They are short behind-the-scenes extras made specifically for the DVD release. There is a difference between a documentary about a film and a DVD extra. Something like Hearts of Darkness: A Filmmaker's Apocalypse or American Movie are documentaries about the making of a film. "Adam's Accepted Chronicles" and "Reject Nation: The Making of Accepted" are DVD extras. Also, please remember that Misplaced Pages is not an indiscriminate collection of information. Places like IMDB exist for minute detail about films and the people who make them. Misplaced Pages does not. Misplaced Pages's purpose is to distill the information so that mostly the notable information remains. Besides, there is a link to her IMDB page in the article itself, so there is nothing stopping a reader from finding that information in one click. And despite your assertions to the contrary, I am being constructive. I'm trying to help and you are responding with hostility. Rwiggum (/Contrib) 14:43, 10 December 2008 (UTC)
- The biggest question is what is notable. It's not a matter of picking and choosing information for the sake of it, it's discriminatly including information that is notable, and not every behind-the-scenes DVD featurette and commentary that someone appears in. I say again, the place for this information is IMDB, not Misplaced Pages. It doesn't need every bit of detail to be the most comprehensive encyclopedia on the planet. If that were the case, then it would include every garage band that anyone decided to put on here, and any struggling actor or actress trying to get a role. I've tried being civil, but if you continue to act with such disregard and malicious indignation I will be forced to take this to an administrator. Also, it's very difficult to have a discussion with you when you continue to delete my messages. I don't understand why you're getting so angry when I'm trying to have a conversation with you. I'd appreciate it if you could calm down and discuss this without erasing comments that you deem "negative". Rwiggum (/Contrib) 14:53, 10 December 2008 (UTC)
- Then if I try to get this resolved, you need to keep these comments on your talk page, at least for a little while. If I try to get mediation, then the mediators will need to see the full extent of our conversations to fully understand the problem. Please do not delete this again until it's over. Rwiggum (/Contrib) 15:02, 10 December 2008 (UTC)
- That isn't how this works. A talk page isn't a vanity page that is supposed to look pretty and great, it is a means for communications to be utilized by editors. My interest is in getting this issue resolved. I have never been confrontational, and you have been nothing but. Trust me, once this is resolved you can delete whatever you want from your talk page. But for now, for the purpose of having this conversation, it needs to stay. Rwiggum (/Contrib) 15:06, 10 December 2008 (UTC)
- Likewise, it should also be noted that a mediation is not just something that you let happen and hear the result. You need to agree to mediation and be actively involved. Rwiggum (/Contrib) 15:10, 10 December 2008 (UTC)
- I simply felt that this was the best way to deal with the issue, as I feel we have exhausted one-on-one discussion. I the mediation does not work, then we can take it further, perhaps to arbitration. However, I feel that if we are both receptive to the mediation, then we can resolve this in a peaceful and civil manner. Rwiggum (/Contrib) 15:33, 10 December 2008 (UTC)
- So? Will you accept the mediation? Rwiggum (/Contrib) 15:39, 10 December 2008 (UTC)
- That's exactly what mediation is. The only difference is that this happens in a formal manner. If you do accept it, then you need to go here and sign your name right below mine for it to begin. Also, I ask that you please stop removing content from my talk page. Rwiggum (/Contrib) 15:44, 10 December 2008 (UTC)
- Please, I need to know if you are going to accept the moderation or not. Again, you need to go here and sign your name under mine in order for the mediation to begin. This will be the best way to resolve this issue. Rwiggum (/Contrib) 15:51, 10 December 2008 (UTC)
- That's exactly what mediation is. The only difference is that this happens in a formal manner. If you do accept it, then you need to go here and sign your name right below mine for it to begin. Also, I ask that you please stop removing content from my talk page. Rwiggum (/Contrib) 15:44, 10 December 2008 (UTC)
- So? Will you accept the mediation? Rwiggum (/Contrib) 15:39, 10 December 2008 (UTC)
- I simply felt that this was the best way to deal with the issue, as I feel we have exhausted one-on-one discussion. I the mediation does not work, then we can take it further, perhaps to arbitration. However, I feel that if we are both receptive to the mediation, then we can resolve this in a peaceful and civil manner. Rwiggum (/Contrib) 15:33, 10 December 2008 (UTC)
- Likewise, it should also be noted that a mediation is not just something that you let happen and hear the result. You need to agree to mediation and be actively involved. Rwiggum (/Contrib) 15:10, 10 December 2008 (UTC)
- That isn't how this works. A talk page isn't a vanity page that is supposed to look pretty and great, it is a means for communications to be utilized by editors. My interest is in getting this issue resolved. I have never been confrontational, and you have been nothing but. Trust me, once this is resolved you can delete whatever you want from your talk page. But for now, for the purpose of having this conversation, it needs to stay. Rwiggum (/Contrib) 15:06, 10 December 2008 (UTC)
- Then if I try to get this resolved, you need to keep these comments on your talk page, at least for a little while. If I try to get mediation, then the mediators will need to see the full extent of our conversations to fully understand the problem. Please do not delete this again until it's over. Rwiggum (/Contrib) 15:02, 10 December 2008 (UTC)
- The biggest question is what is notable. It's not a matter of picking and choosing information for the sake of it, it's discriminatly including information that is notable, and not every behind-the-scenes DVD featurette and commentary that someone appears in. I say again, the place for this information is IMDB, not Misplaced Pages. It doesn't need every bit of detail to be the most comprehensive encyclopedia on the planet. If that were the case, then it would include every garage band that anyone decided to put on here, and any struggling actor or actress trying to get a role. I've tried being civil, but if you continue to act with such disregard and malicious indignation I will be forced to take this to an administrator. Also, it's very difficult to have a discussion with you when you continue to delete my messages. I don't understand why you're getting so angry when I'm trying to have a conversation with you. I'd appreciate it if you could calm down and discuss this without erasing comments that you deem "negative". Rwiggum (/Contrib) 14:53, 10 December 2008 (UTC)
- I know that they were DVD extras because I own the DVD. They are short behind-the-scenes extras made specifically for the DVD release. There is a difference between a documentary about a film and a DVD extra. Something like Hearts of Darkness: A Filmmaker's Apocalypse or American Movie are documentaries about the making of a film. "Adam's Accepted Chronicles" and "Reject Nation: The Making of Accepted" are DVD extras. Also, please remember that Misplaced Pages is not an indiscriminate collection of information. Places like IMDB exist for minute detail about films and the people who make them. Misplaced Pages does not. Misplaced Pages's purpose is to distill the information so that mostly the notable information remains. Besides, there is a link to her IMDB page in the article itself, so there is nothing stopping a reader from finding that information in one click. And despite your assertions to the contrary, I am being constructive. I'm trying to help and you are responding with hostility. Rwiggum (/Contrib) 14:43, 10 December 2008 (UTC)
Proposition
Working on both articles as we speak. I'll hit you back once I'm done. --Caponer (talk) 22:07, 24 November 2008 (UTC)
- Prince Ferdinand of Bavaria and Infanta Maria Teresa of Spain. Have at 'em. --Caponer (talk) 03:28, 25 November 2008 (UTC)
Maria Thayer mediation notification
A request for mediation has been filed with the Mediation Committee that lists you as a party. The Mediation Committee requires that all parties listed in a mediation must be notified of the mediation. Please review the request at Misplaced Pages:Requests for mediation/Maria Thayer, and indicate whether you agree or disagree to mediation. If you are unfamiliar with mediation on Misplaced Pages, please refer to Misplaced Pages:Mediation. Please note there is a seven-day time limit on all parties responding to the request with their agreement or disagreement to mediation. Thanks, Rwiggum (/Contrib) 15:26, 10 December 2008 (UTC)