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Hello, NurseryRhyme! Welcome to Misplaced Pages! Thank you for your contributions to this 💕. If you decide that you need help, check out Getting Help below, ask me on my talk page, or place {{helpme}} on your talk page and ask your question there. Please remember to sign your name on talk pages by clicking or using four tildes (~~~~); this will automatically produce your username and the date. Finally, please do your best to always fill in the edit summary field. Below are some useful links to facilitate your involvement. Happy editing! Tikiwont (talk) 10:06, 2 October 2008 (UTC) Getting started A tutorial • Our five pillars • Getting mentored How to: edit a page • upload and use images Getting help Frequently asked questions • Tips Where to ask questions or make comments Request administrator attention Policies and guidelines Neutral point of view • No original research Verifiability • Reliable sources • Citing sources What Misplaced Pages is not • Biographies of living persons Manual of Style • Three-revert rule • Sock puppetry Copyrights • Policy for non-free content • Image use policy External links • Spam • Vandalism Deletion policy • Conflict of interest • Notability The community Build consensus • Resolve disputes Assume good faith • Civility • Etiquette No personal attacks • No legal threats Community Portal • Village pump Signpost • IRC channels • Mailing lists Writing articles Be bold in editing • Develop an article The perfect article • Manual of style Stubs • Categories • Disambiguation Pages needing attention • Peer review Miscellaneous User name • User pages • Talk pages Clean up: General • Spam • Vandalism Join a WikiProject • Translation Useful templates • Tools • User scripts

DJ JoN-E

the article DJ JoN-E should redirect to Johney Brar - not the other way around... i tried to change the redirects but you keep undoing it - there should be one article Johney Brar (with redirects from DJ JoN-E and Johnny Brar)- lazybone22 —Preceding unsigned comment added by Laybone22 (talk • contribs) 14:56, 22 October 2008 (UTC)

China

talk to triwbe about it. 24.150.133.106 (talk) 23:43, 31 December 2008 (UTC)

Metro Station

Please don't defend awful music like Metro Station.— Preceding unsigned comment added by Rgbthn (talk • contribs)

"Customer..."?

Where's me cash...? Or did you not "purchase" any article I had contributed too? ;~) LessHeard vanU (talk) 00:33, 5 October 2008 (UTC)

Keep an eye on Johnny "J"

As you can see, he may or may not have died. Without a trustworty verifiable source to back that up, we can't say that, though. That doesn't seem to be stopping a lot of people. HalfShadow 03:22, 5 October 2008 (UTC)

I dunno. But they're coming out of the woodwork now that he's apparantly 'dead'. He may be dead, for all anyone knows, it's just we haven't seen it from a reliable source, and nobody is sourcing their news. HalfShadow 03:25, 5 October 2008 (UTC)

The article itself is of no interest to me at all; you just need to be careful with stuff like deaths. You can't just go saying stuff like that without something to back it up, you know? HalfShadow 03:36, 5 October 2008 (UTC)

I'm not sure if 3RR applies in this case; it's technically a case of exception five: 'Reverting the addition of libelous, biased, unsourced, or poorly sourced controversial material which violates the policy on biographies of living persons.' Nonetheless, I'm getting tired of having to revert it every few minutes. HalfShadow 19:58, 5 October 2008 (UTC)

Might be an idea to message Tony Fox; he's an admin. Of course I get the impression that he's completely sick of it by now, so it may not really help. HalfShadow 20:03, 5 October 2008 (UTC)

Atheist Community of Austin

I will assume the best of faith in Therealgordon wishing to make this article suitable for Wiki. Might you support a deletion and subsequent move to his sandbox? This way he can work on it at leisure, get input from more experienced editors, and have it reviewed before offering an improved article back to the main pages. If it never becomes worthy, it won't be back. Schmidt, 19:00, 8 October 2008 (UTC)

AGF

Sorry about the AGF issue. I've been frustrated by a number of AfDs recently where it was really obvious searches hadn't occurred. As I found what I think are good sources in about 1 minute, I assumed others would have too. That's a bad assumption (not that I'm special, others have quickly found things I haven't). Sorry I ranted there. Hobit (talk) 23:47, 8 October 2008 (UTC)

• I also hadn't realized how new you were here. Double bad on me. Hobit (talk) 23:49, 8 October 2008 (UTC)

Redirects

Hi Nursery Rhyme,

No, I'm not making up any words. Feel free to look any of them up in a good dictionary. They'll be there.

Happy editing,

Neelix (talk) 20:31, 11 October 2008 (UTC)

Hi Nursery Rhyme,

Misplaced Pages guidelines recommend against creating redirects which are unlikely misspellings, not real words. It is my belief that all English words should be covered in some capacity on Misplaced Pages, if only as a soft redirect to its corresponding entry on Wiktionary. Still, internal redirects are preferred, so I impliment those when they are possible.

Neelix (talk) 20:36, 11 October 2008 (UTC)

Subst

Hi, please don't "subst" maintenance tags. A subst'd maintenance tag doesn't correctly insert the tag into the appropriate category; for example if {{notable}} is subst'd, the article isn't inserted into Category:Articles with topics of unclear notability from October 2008. Cheers, ~ User:Ameliorate! 03:03, 12 October 2008 (UTC)

RE:Pat Nixon

Haha, don't worry bout it, it happens a lot. Cheers, « Gonzo fan2007 (talk) @ 22:30, 13 October 2008 (UTC)

RE: "comment edited"

Actually the comment I removed in Talk:Toreador_(World_of_Darkness) was my own. I had accidentally added it earlier that day before noting the time the first person posted and, like an idiot, forgot to remove it before hitting submit. I also have addressed the reason before time and time again- the same user has marked ALL the clan pages for Vampire: the masquerade as "unnoteworthy", "Stub" (even when they're not" and even created a monstrous list merger page that is a real eyesore. I'll be sure to paste the reasoning in, again, just to prevent further misunderstanding. Thanks for the reminder.

Jesse McCartney

Yes. I know youtube is unreliable source. But from what I've read where the link is posted, it is an interview, and he said it himself. I personally haven't opened the video, and would appreciate anybody who will review the video for reliability. If you have actually review it and the fact that it is not there, then I thank you for removing it. If you remove it without reviewing it, please leave the link somewhere so other people can review and verify it. I can't do it myself because of limited bandwith. w_tanoto (talk) 23:57, 23 October 2008 (UTC)

Also note this, that youtube is not fully banned in Misplaced Pages so long as it is reliable and do not infringe copyright. See Misplaced Pages Policy: . Also see Talk on Jesse McCartney: Talk:Jesse McCartney#Name: Jesse "A" McCartney. I started this talk when I found inconsistent in the article. Apparently somebody replied and confirming his name (though without source and no signature)
So, please, if you found the video is unreliable or violating copyright, remove it, bearing in mind that I am not able to view the video myself. Otherwise, restore it. I wouldn't get involve anymore.w_tanoto (talk) 00:04, 24 October 2008 (UTC)

Thanks for reviewing and confirming the video--w_tanoto (talk) 00:28, 24 October 2008 (UTC)

Note: ANI

I removed a comment of yours from WP:ANI because it seemed to be irrelevant William M. Connolley (talk) 22:18, 24 October 2008 (UTC)

And cut the sarcastic crap, too. We're all volunteers here trying to help out as best we can. Tan | 39 22:31, 24 October 2008 (UTC)

Keep the conversation here. I know you're trying to help - initially - but whining and carrying on with random, snarky comments because you didn't get your way isn't a mature way to go about things. Tan | 39 22:33, 24 October 2008 (UTC)

It isn't the matter of not getting my way, it's that what I thought was a legitimate problem was being ignored. Little Red Riding Hoodtalk 22:35, 24 October 2008 (UTC)

Fair enough, let me rephrase: whining and carrying on with random, snarky comments because you thought your legitimate problem was being ignored isn't a mature way to go about things. Seriously; I'm sorry if you felt slighted or ignored. But this isn't a business; no one is getting paid. Someone did warn this user. It's being actively dealt with on the ANI page. So, it seems that it just didn't get taken care of quickly enough for you? You really need to learn some patience. Tan | 39 22:41, 24 October 2008 (UTC)

Tan, that was a little too confrontational of a way to put that.

NurseryRhyme - Tan does have a point. Incidents get handled as people see them as priority items. And that's based on dozens of factors, from other noticeboards, recent changes, personal watchlists, some admins on IRC (not I, but many others), etc. It also depends on how complex incidents are - some very large very complicated ones can take an hour or more to research. You need to be more patient with incidents. Reporting it, and further developments, is fine. But not everything gets responded to immediately.

This incident was appropriate to report. Please be more patient about responses in the future. Thanks. Georgewilliamherbert (talk) 22:59, 24 October 2008 (UTC)

I would also like to thank NurseryRhyme, for such a dedicated, and energetic attempt to report me - some of that energy unfortunately going awry and back at the reporting user itself. Gabr-el 00:53, 26 October 2008 (UTC)

I'm not saying I'm better than you Gabr-el, but this edit together with some more of your latest () shows that your "apologiez" was just empty word, and how can you say that a reason for the "misunderstandings" are because of that English isn't your first language? I mean according to your userpage your nationality is British and you seem to manage the English lanugage with no problems. The TriZ (talk) 01:18, 26 October 2008 (UTC)

All I have said is 1) That LOTR has earned my attention towards his edits. It is only fair that I repay his great interest in my edits with my own interest in his edits, and be the good wikipedian he has been in saying "Tut tut". As for you The Triz, if you're not better than me, then don't start or else we will look at your edits. My apology was for accusing LOTR of vandalizing a page - even though he did not apologize to me for calling me a troll. I only wish to inform all of the judgemental attitude of NurseryRhyme (whose zeal to get me gave him/her their own little caution note), LOTR's accusing me of being a Troll and you coming to this page and attempting to discredit me has all been (when you have only used poor sources in debates so far). Finally, if you are addressing me, address me at my user page, not at someone else's user page. Gabr-el 06:49, 26 October 2008 (UTC)

And when did I say that my poor English was an excuse for my uncivil behavior?Gabr-el 06:58, 26 October 2008 (UTC)

KyleSkitKlub

NurseryRhyme, my forum is for my theatre skit I'm producing for my great grandma for Christmas. I'm going to print it and save it on here for memories. Thank you. —Preceding unsigned comment added by KyleSkitKlub (talk • contribs) 03:56, 25 October 2008 (UTC) Yes but I need to print this Nursery Rhyme, and I don't think people will be browsing this. Other people have different stuff on their site, and they're not getting yelled at. Why can't I just have this so I can make a chart? Do u want info at the top or something? —Preceding unsigned comment added by KyleSkitKlub (talk • contribs) 04:02, 25 October 2008 (UTC) -Well I soon might move it to a different wikipedia page, but like I said, I'm not deleting now. If it really does bother people let me know, and I will move it as soon as possible, but otherwise it's staying. -You know what you don't have to be such a jerk and impatient about it my god! I've contributed on here enough in the past so get off my butt! Maybe I'll delete some of your stuff too if you like huh? Leave me alone red riding hood! —Preceding unsigned comment added by KyleSkitKlub (talk • contribs) 22:50, 25 October 2008 (UTC)

WP:BIO template

Hello, you might be interested in this template I created: User:Gyrofrog/Notables. -- Gyrofrog (talk) 18:56, 29 October 2008 (UTC)

Actually it takes two parameters, one for the name of the article (or page etc.) and another for any additional message (much like the WP:UTM templates, or at least that was the idea). -- Gyrofrog (talk) 19:45, 29 October 2008 (UTC)

• Example: {{subst:User:Gyrofrog/Notables|Tigray-Tigrinya people|2=The name you added, if ], would produce a ]. Thank you.}} -- Gyrofrog (talk) 19:55, 29 October 2008 (UTC)

Characters in the Emberverse series

Hey thanks for the work you did on this article. I've been meaning to work on it for some time but was always busy. Good job. Zombie Hunter Smurf (talk) 00:06, 30 October 2008 (UTC)

Krysten Moore

I have done some work on the article and hope I have met your concerns. Looking at the earlist versions of the piece, I can well understand your concerns with COI. But the current article has neutral POV, no peacock, and each assertion is heavily sourced per BLP. Regards, Schmidt, 04:47, 31 October 2008 (UTC)

Violation of image placeholders directive

Jackal4 continues to violate the very clear directive of http://en.wikipedia.org/Wikipedia:Centralized_discussion/Image_placeholders on a bevy of pages.

Including Ryan Braun (pitcher), and many others.

And has violated the 3-revert rule.

I request that you kingly ask him to desist, and revert all such inappropriate entries that he3 has made.

I have asked him to do so. He refuses to.

Many thanks.--Epeefleche (talk) 03:43, 20 November 2008 (UTC)

RE: Wikinews page

Topics in the Headlines are in Portal:Current events/Headlines. News in Portal:Current Events/(insert date here. eg 2008 January 11). Wikinews at Portal:Current Events/Wikinews/Today-x , where x is the number of days before the current date, if its today, its just Today. eg. Portal:Current Events/Wikinews/Today. Enjoy :)--Silent Assassin (talk) 15:14, 20 November 2008 (UTC)

kuru

Hi, 'Kuru' has rashly deleted the 'academic research' references I had added without actually reading them, and is not willing to undo his deletions even after I explained (kindly see his discussion page topic titled 'thanks'). I am contacting you because you seem to know him. I am an academic researcher in US university and my intentions are good. I also know that Kuru's intentions are good, but I am not a 'vandal' against whom he thinks he is fighting. I would greatly appreciate it if you can please help him understand. Thanks. --Ytrab (talk) 04:13, 21 November 2008 (UTC)

Thanks, I have followed your advice and posted my concern on WP:RSN. I hope it helps. I appreciate your time and guidance. Thanks.--Ytrab (talk) 04:47, 21 November 2008 (UTC)

Thomas Glave

Hi, NurseryRhyme, I have been working on the Thomas Glave page, which you had tagged as coi. I'd like to invite you to look at it again. Thanks!--Lawrlafo (talk) 18:49, 21 November 2008 (UTC)

New Prairie United School Corporation

To explain the recent edits in this article ...

A school's address (not its phone number) is a standard part of many school articles and is supported by the school infobox. Misplaced Pages:WikiProject Schools does not generally consider elementary and middle schools notable on their own, and suggests describing them in their parent school district article. This justifies the addresses for the schools in this article. I agree that Misplaced Pages is not a phone book; however, it does contain addresses for many places, and schools is one of them. Thanks. Truthanado (talk) 01:14, 22 November 2008 (UTC)

Rabbi Lopatin

Is there some reason why you put up a notice while the article was still under construction?Historicist (talk) 02:12, 27 November 2008 (UTC)Historicist

Alumini page

http://en.wikipedia.org/Alumini_of_Chail_Military_School was created as per the guidance http://en.wikipedia.org/Wikipedia:WikiProject_Schools/Article_guidelines and this is the paragraph which i followed Separate alumni pages If a bulleted list of alumni in a school article becomes quite large, consider moving it to another page entitled "List of...". It is not necessary to include "notable" in the article title. As everything on Misplaced Pages needs to adhere to Misplaced Pages:Notability (people) having "notable" in the title is redundant. Have a look at other alumni pages in Category:Lists of people by school affiliation to get an idea or see the following examples: List of Old Falconians, lots of references, but little information present about dates spent at the school List of Old Gowers, good coverage of graduation dates and time spent at the school, but little in the way of verification List of Stuyvesant High School people, a good illustration of verification, grouping by category, and ordering (in this case by graduation year)

template was used as per old falconians link.

Thanks

Now u are deleting the notable alumini from the main page which was earlier retained by another editor. Similarly you have removed list of commandents but if i create a separate page you will once again mark it for deletion. There is no information on PVC winners on Wiki does that mean PVC is lesser than Victoria cross!! —Preceding unsigned comment added by Harpreetsingh7 (talk • contribs) 20:28, 27 November 2008 (UTC)

Alright go ahead and delete the page because creating pages on every single of them will take ages. My idea was to collect all the names and slowly create pages. I created the page and was putting external links to show that they are real people, when you marked it for deletion. Anyway i donot think i will be able to type in all the pages with the same speed as u mark pages on every single of them so i pull back. Even to type a scientific paper which is approx 3000 words long i take around a week as providing wrong information is not my way of doing things. When i edit/referee a paper i use pubmed or google to cross check the facts rather than relying on the information at the same source. Cheers —Preceding unsigned comment added by 149.142.237.69 (talk) 20:54, 27 November 2008 (UTC)

Sig

Hi - got your msg re smoothvega afd, thanks. I notice your signature reads Redridinghood while your actual username is NurseryRhyme. Some folk might construe this as confusing/misleading, I wonder if it's possible for you to sign things as your actual username? Regards, --Oscarthecat (talk) 21:43, 27 November 2008 (UTC)

Excuse me for butting in but:

User:Amcbride signs as Allen

User:Givnan signs as ChokinBako

User:TotoBaggins signs as Sean

User:Sputnikcccp signs as СПУТНИК

User:Ummit signs as Steve Summit

User:Wakuran signs as 惑乱 分からん * \)/ (\ (< \) (2 /) /)/ *

etc., etc., etc., ... so I don't think that User:NurseryRhyme needs to be held to any non-existent policy for signature choice. -hydnjo talk 02:16, 9 December 2008 (UTC) (actually hydnjo talk)

when blanking is good

Hi ... I answered you underneath your question on my page, but I'll repeat here.

If the page should not have been created, then blanking it is good. Of course, it really needed a deletion tag on it too, but what was blanked was an attack. That's good blanking. (I think that's what happened.:) Proofreader77 (talk) 05:24, 21 December 2008 (UTC)

PS ... I see they did revert their own vandalism on Tony Romo, before they blanked the attack "Choke artist" page. So, all is fine. lol (Or, around the same time. :) Proofreader77 (talk) 05:36, 21 December 2008 (UTC)

PPS ... What happened was that we witnessed a miracle -- someone got a warning, and took it seriously. They rushed to undo what they'd done. // Cherish the moment. You may never see that again. :) (shutting up) Proofreader77 (talk) 05:54, 21 December 2008 (UTC)

Re: William Alfred Preston

Yeah, you're probably right. I'm not sure if the position has any inherent notability, but if you feel it does, I have no problem with abiding by your take on it. I certainly have no strong arguments to the contrary, at least! - Vianello (talk) 23:49, 24 December 2008 (UTC)

• Yeah, the lack of sources to reaffirm that was kinda what caused me to make that call in the first place, since it left things hanging on the issue of 'innate' notability. I guess just one of those all-too-common "unreferenced" tags might be the best one can offer here. Well, short of sources, anyway. - Vianello (talk) 23:51, 24 December 2008 (UTC)

Sheikh_Fazle_Noor_Taposh

Regarding this move, you are totally mistaken. "Sheikh" is not a title here, rather in Bangladesh, Sheikh is a common (family) name. This person is related to Sheikh Mujibur Rahman and Sheikh Hasina. I assume you mistook it with the middle-eastern practice of using Sheikh to denote clan chiefs, but that is simply not the case in Bangladesh. The same applies to "Kazi" or "Quazi", which initially meant Judge, but now is a common (family) name in Bangladesh (see Kazi Nazrul Islam, national poet of Bangladesh).

Of course, this person (Taposh) may not be notable right now, so I've nominated it for speedy. --Ragib (talk) 01:17, 25 December 2008 (UTC)

I do not know about the naming conventions of Pakistan and about this particular person (Rasheed). However, the Sheikh article mentions that it is used as a part of name all through South Asia. For example, Khalid Sheikh Mohammed. --Ragib (talk) 19:06, 25 December 2008 (UTC)

Yes, Misplaced Pages:WikiProject Pakistan. --Ragib (talk) 19:09, 25 December 2008 (UTC)

COI

Hi, Sorry about the COI removal - I copied and pasted a sample infobox - without realizing what the coi you added stood for.

As per wikipedia: Conflict of interest often presents itself in the form of self-promotion, including advertising links, personal website links, personal or semi-personal photos, or other material that appears to promote the private or commercial interests of the editor, or their associates.

None of these apply to my edits. The expanse on the reference is not rooted in self-promotion, and is not intended to promote self-interest, rather to expand upon a basic biography in one coherent source. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Awapniak (talk • contribs) 07:03, 28 December 2008 (UTC)

Nurseryrhyme - please comment further, I don't see the conflict with the Neutral Point of View policy of Misplaced Pages. NYArtichoke (talk) 03:55, 29 December 2008 (UTC)

Animax India

Animax India article is decision to be deleted, so please delete the article. ----Sumit (talk) 04:25, 30 December 2008 (UTC)

Merge to Animax Asia, Yes I Merge few details on and I am rewriting the hole thing properly but then what will happen to Animax India page?----Sumit (talk) 04:29, 30 December 2008 (UTC)

OK thanks I will redirect it to Animax Asia —Preceding unsigned comment added by Sumit sony145 (talk • contribs) 04:31, 30 December 2008 (UTC)

Fed up

Hi. I'm fed up with having to put up with a certain editor's irrational, inconsistent, unpredictable, incommunicative, narrow minded, uncompromising, uncooperative, arrogant and stubborn behaviour. (Did I miss anything?)
Also, I'm fed up with the amount of my time that is being wasted by this editor.
I see that you have had similar experiences with this editor.
Do you know if anything can be done about this editor's unacceptable behaviour?
Cheers, Pdfpdf (talk) 06:36, 31 December 2008 (UTC)

Robert Wone

What is disparaging that has not already been published in the Washington Post? Is Wone's death not notable in many press articles? Bachcell (talk) 23:56, 31 December 2008 (UTC) (Deleting my previous comment; we can discuss this together at WP:BLP/N) Jclemens (talk) 01:45, 1 January 2009 (UTC)

January, 2009

Please assume good faith in your dealings with other editors, which you did not on WP:BLP/N. Assume that they are here to improve rather than harm Misplaced Pages. Jclemens (talk) 22:04, 2 January 2009 (UTC)

AGF

Please assume good faith. I certainly did not "attack" anyone. I looked at the timestamp on the WQA filing, and it was identical to the timestamp on the ANI filing. If you merely copy/pasted the text from one to the other, then this was unfortunately a misunderstanding caused by your edit, and I apologize. Please be cautious that you sign each post separately. ♪BMWΔ 18:32, 3 January 2009 (UTC)

Already been done, now that you clarified your error. Thanks. ♪BMWΔ 18:40, 3 January 2009 (UTC)

Irrelevent and unconstructive edit at T:TDYK

this edit was unhelpful and unconstructive. 1) DYK's are neither supported nor opposed; they meet the criteria for inclusion or they do not. 2) I had already disclosed the fact that the article was at AfD. 3) the hook for the article has nothing to do with your BLP-based objections to the article. Your conduct regarding this article is somewhat disappointing--the world will not end if it's kept, but you seem rather inexplicably intent on its removal. I'd love to hear any explanation that will help build consensus. Jclemens (talk) 05:46, 4 January 2009 (UTC)