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| *'''Comment''' I'm sympathetic to the initiator of this process, but this page just underwent and survived deletion process. Starting another AfD immediately seems like a poor idea, and a bad faith nom. And per other stuff exists, apparently we DO build temples to non-notable Misplaced Pages vandalism (see ]). This page is a hoax, and is identified as such. ] (]) 12:24, 5 January 2009 (UTC) | *'''Comment''' I'm sympathetic to the initiator of this process, but this page just underwent and survived deletion process. Starting another AfD immediately seems like a poor idea, and a bad faith nom. And per other stuff exists, apparently we DO build temples to non-notable Misplaced Pages vandalism (see ]). This page is a hoax, and is identified as such. ] (]) 12:24, 5 January 2009 (UTC) | ||
| *Comment: ED passes the notability criteria just fine: this is not an issue here. The qustion not addressed by the previous deletion process is simply this: does that article pass the ] and ] criteria? If not, we must delete it. AfD is not a vote or popularity contest. -- ] (]) 12:30, 5 January 2009 (UTC) | *Comment: ED passes the notability criteria just fine: this is not an issue here. The qustion not addressed by the previous deletion process is simply this: does that article pass the ] and ] criteria? If not, we must delete it. AfD is not a vote or popularity contest. -- ] (]) 12:30, 5 January 2009 (UTC) | ||
| Keep -- This article must NOT be deleted, even though the damage has already been done. Anyone who read this article, or any reference to it, prior to the revealing | |||
| of the hoax will now have a set of false beliefs about the past. Only if a searcher returns to this article, or one derived from it, can the hoax be discovered. There remain other references to the so-called pirate, even within Misplaced Pages, that do not indicate that the story is false. The students may have thought what they were doing was instructive, but they quickly lost control of the information. So Misplaced Pages needs to retain the corrected article as at least a last resort attempt to correct the fraud and lead searchers to the truth of the matter. ] (]) 13:18, 5 January 2009 (UTC) | |||
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Edward Owens (hoax)
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The article is about a fictitious person, and the associated hoax. The hoax itself appears to have zero references from WP:RS. The only reference to a WP:RS provided in any version of this page was to a reference to the "Last American Pirate" website, which fails to meet WP:WEB, and at no point refers to the hoax itself. The rest of the information in the article (in any of its revisions) is original research unsupported by reliable independent sources. Delete per WP:DENY, WP:WEB and WP:OR -- we do not build temples to non-notable Misplaced Pages vandalism The Anome (talk) 12:16, 5 January 2009 (UTC)
- Comment I'm sympathetic to the initiator of this process, but this page just underwent and survived deletion process. Starting another AfD immediately seems like a poor idea, and a bad faith nom. And per other stuff exists, apparently we DO build temples to non-notable Misplaced Pages vandalism (see Encyclopedia Dramatica). This page is a hoax, and is identified as such. BusterD (talk) 12:24, 5 January 2009 (UTC)
- Comment: ED passes the notability criteria just fine: this is not an issue here. The qustion not addressed by the previous deletion process is simply this: does that article pass the WP:V and WP:RS criteria? If not, we must delete it. AfD is not a vote or popularity contest. -- The Anome (talk) 12:30, 5 January 2009 (UTC)
Keep -- This article must NOT be deleted, even though the damage has already been done. Anyone who read this article, or any reference to it, prior to the revealing of the hoax will now have a set of false beliefs about the past. Only if a searcher returns to this article, or one derived from it, can the hoax be discovered. There remain other references to the so-called pirate, even within Misplaced Pages, that do not indicate that the story is false. The students may have thought what they were doing was instructive, but they quickly lost control of the information. So Misplaced Pages needs to retain the corrected article as at least a last resort attempt to correct the fraud and lead searchers to the truth of the matter. Eliphaletnott (talk) 13:18, 5 January 2009 (UTC)
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