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Only when the last tree has withered, the last fish has been caught, and the last river has been poisoned, will you realize you cannot eat money. — Cree Proverb

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Stating that something doesn't work because it violates a basic law of physics is perfectly reasonable. I can run faster than the speed of light, and I have a video tape and some crayon drawings to prove it. But no one takes me seriously, so I'm forced to conclude that I'm a persecuted visionary with ideas ahead of my time, right?

This user is one of an infinite number of "monkeys" editing Misplaced Pages right now.

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Words are loaded pistols. — Jean-Paul Sartre

An intellectual is someone whose mind watches itself. — Albert Camus

Sarcasm: the last refuge of modest and chaste-souled people when the privacy of their soul is coarsely and intrusively invaded. — Fyodor Dostoyevsky

Personal Notations

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Undue weight ---

NPOV says that the article should fairly represent all significant viewpoints that have been published by a reliable source, and should do so in proportion to the prominence of each. Now an important qualification: Articles that compare views should not give minority views as much or as detailed a description as more popular views, and will generally not include tiny-minority views at all.

We should not attempt to represent a dispute as if a view held by a small minority deserved as much attention as a majority view. Views that are held by a tiny minority should not be represented except in articles devoted to those views. To give undue weight to a significant-minority view, or to include a tiny-minority view, might be misleading as to the shape of the dispute. Misplaced Pages aims to present competing views in proportion to their representation among experts on the subject, or among the concerned parties. WP:UNDUEWEIGHT

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Proper capitalization is the difference between ~ "I helped my uncle Jack off a horse" and "I helped my uncle jack off a horse".

Note III:

Nutshell of Wisdom:

If you are the only person left beating the horse after it has died, consider the possibility that you should stop.

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State of the Wiki Nation

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The Misplaced Pages philosophy can be summed up thusly: "Experts are scum." For some reason people who spend 40 years learning everything they can about, say, the Peloponnesian War -- and indeed, advancing the body of human knowledge -- get all pissy when their contributions are edited away by Randy in Boise who heard somewhere that sword-wielding skeletons were involved. And they get downright irate when asked politely to engage in discourse with Randy until the sword-skeleton theory can be incorporated into the article without passing judgment.

— Lore Sjöberg

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Misplaced Pages has a policy of not calling people or groups "terrorist". This is not an indication of condoning "terrorist" activities, but of neutrality, and avoidance of passing judgment, affirming or denying. Please debate the merit of this policy at WT:Words to avoid, not here.

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Brief quotations of copyrighted text may be used to illustrate a point, establish context, or attribute a point of view or idea.

— Wiki Quote Policy

Quotations are a fundamental attribute of Misplaced Pages. Quotes provide a direct source of information or insight. A brief excerpt can sometimes explain things better and less controversially than trying to do so ourselves.

— WP:QUOTE

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= Don't Feed The Divas

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                The future of Misplaced Pages ???

Note XIII:

A troll is a troll.

Note XIV:

	Misplaced Pages, which looks like a reference work to the average viewer, is in fact a bureaucracy given over mainly to arguing. The articles are the residue of the argument, being the last thing anyone declined to disagree about.
	— Clay Shirky, Here Comes Everybody, p. 279

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Note XVI: A few words on Wiki flaws

IP Edits

Widespread anonymity leads to a distinguishable problem, namely, the attractiveness of the project to people who merely want to cause trouble, or who want to undermine the project, or who want to change it into something that it is avowedly not – in other words, the troll problem.

— Larry Sanger, Misplaced Pages co-founder

3 RR

Many an edit war may seem like a fight over nothing to the casual observer, but considering that according to its staff, the popular, multilingual Web site gets about 7 billion views per month, stakes can be high. An edit yields what millions of people read on the site on any particular topic.

— San Francisco Weekly

Deletionists & "Taggers"

Still, a lot of good work—verifiable, informative, brain-leapingly strange — is being cast out of this paperless, infinitely expandable accordion folder by people who have a narrow, almost grade-schoolish notion of what sort of curiosity an on-line encyclopedia will be able to satisfy in the years to come ... There are some people on Misplaced Pages now who poke articles full of warnings and citation-needed notes and deletion prods till the topics go away.

— Nicholson Baker

Notability ?

To be notable, a Misplaced Pages topic must be "the subject of multiple, non-trivial published works from sources that are reliable and independent of the subject and of each other." Although I have written or been quoted in such works, I can't say I've ever been the subject of any. And wouldn't you know, some notability cop cruised past my bio and pulled me over. Unless I get notable in a hurry — win the Nobel Peace Prize? Prove I sired Anna Nicole Smith's baby daughter? — a "sysop" (volunteer techie) will wipe my Misplaced Pages page clean. It's straight out of Philip K. Dick.

— Timothy Noah

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The World at Night

RfA thanks!

		RfA: Many thanks
		Many thanks for your participation in my recent request for adminship. I am impressed by the amount of thought that goes into people's contribution to the RfA process, and humbled that so many have chosen to trust me with this new responsibility. I step into this new role cautiously, but will do my very best to live up to your kind words and expectations, and to further the project of the encyclopedia. Again, thank you. --jbmurray (talk • contribs) 06:13, 18 May 2008 (UTC)

Everyone likes praise

I admire the extraordinary work you have done on the (Che) article

— Taifarious1, June 5 2008

I just wanted to give ya a quick shout out and thank you for all the hard work you've been putting into the Che, The Argentine and Guerrilla articles.

— J.D. (talk) October 31 2008

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Note XVII: Trying to avoid "Lame Edit Wars"   

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Opinion about Che's paragraph

RT, I am waiting for your comment about the paragraph about the trials in order to implement the changes I suggested (or not). ;-) Cheers, Editor br (talk) 21:10, 8 January 2009 (UTC)

Editor br, I appreciate your commitment to collaboration and am in the process of preparing a lengthy and detailed reply - which should be available in the next day or so. Thanks.   Redthoreau (talk)RT 22:17, 8 January 2009 (UTC)

Ops, I did not check your Talk page, as I assumed you would answer in mine. I will revert my last edits and wait for your comments. Editor br (talk) 16:20, 9 January 2009 (UTC)

Editor br please see my lengthy response, and take your time responding to it (No rush).   Redthoreau (talk)RT 00:09, 10 January 2009 (UTC)

Comment

Hi, Redthoreau. I'm just writing some comments at Talk:Che Guevara. Re "I'll try to contain my cynicism and believe that you are truly interested in actual investigation on the matter," It's good that you're making an effort to assume good faith. I suggest that it's more civil to keep those thoughts to yourself and phrase your comments as if you were having no difficulty assuming good faith. ☺Coppertwig(talk) 19:46, 10 January 2009 (UTC)