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January 2009 talk page edits

re: Templates

Here are the welcome templates: Misplaced Pages:Welcoming committee/Welcome templates/Table, and here are the warnings: Misplaced Pages:Template messages/User talk namespace. I keep these links on my user page for quick reference :) Apparition /Mistakes 20:06, 24 January 2009 (UTC)

February 2009 talk page edits

Proposed deletion of The six traits of writing

A proposed deletion template has been added to the article The six traits of writing, suggesting that it be deleted according to the proposed deletion process because of the following concern:

Original research, WP:Howto

All contributions are appreciated, but this article may not satisfy Misplaced Pages's criteria for inclusion, and the deletion notice should explain why (see also "What Misplaced Pages is not" and Misplaced Pages's deletion policy). You may prevent the proposed deletion by removing the {{dated prod}} notice, but please explain why you disagree with the proposed deletion in your edit summary or on its talk page.

Please consider improving the article to address the issues raised because, even though removing the deletion notice will prevent deletion through the proposed deletion process, the article may still be deleted if it matches any of the speedy deletion criteria or it can be sent to Articles for Deletion, where it may be deleted if consensus to delete is reached. Shadowjams (talk) 00:09, 7 February 2009 (UTC)

I'm doing exactly what this SysOp did on this other page I created: http://en.wikipedia.org/search/?title=The_elements_of_grammar&action=history Give me a break already! - Eugene Krabs (talk) 00:13, 7 February 2009 (UTC)

AfD nomination of The six traits of writing

I have nominated The six traits of writing, an article that you created, for deletion. I do not think that this article satisfies Misplaced Pages's criteria for inclusion, and have explained why at Misplaced Pages:Articles for deletion/The six traits of writing. Your opinions on the matter are welcome at that same discussion page; also, you are welcome to edit the article to address these concerns. Thank you for your time. Shadowjams (talk) 00:16, 7 February 2009 (UTC)

Your actions are being discussed at the Admin Noticeboard for Incidents

Hello, Amaury. This message is being sent to inform you that there currently is a discussion at Misplaced Pages:Administrators' noticeboard/Incidents regarding an issue with which you may have been involved. Thank you. (talk→ Bwilkins / BMW ←track) 14:33, 7 February 2009 (UTC)

User talk:AndyManchester

Users are allowed to remove warnings from their own talk pages per WP:TALK. When they do this, please do not revert it. AndyManchester is perfectly within his rights to remove them. It seems you know this since you have removed warnings and notices on your own talk page. Besides, his edits do not appear to be vandalism. They may or may not be correct, but they certainly appear to be good faith edits. Please be careful. Looking at the WP:ANI discussion on you, the community appears to be losing patience. Please be careful. Apparition /Mistakes 08:36, 8 February 2009 (UTC)

Since we're sort of good friends, I will listen to you. You're nicer than some of the administrators here. =D - Eugene Krabs (talk) 16:30, 8 February 2009 (UTC)

Thanks. Just to make sure that I don't give the wrong impression, I'm not an admin. I'm pretty sure you remember that and I didn't take your last comment to imply that I was, but I just like to be careful not to misrepresent myself. Despite whether you feel that the other users are nice or not, you really should try to listen to what they are saying. For example, below, Deor left a warning that it seems you didn't care for. While you may not like the template, you would be better off listening to what Deor is saying. It is not in good practice to refactor other people's talk page messages. Even if it is just to correct a typo, you should not do it. Also, while you may not have liked Elbutler's WP:MENTOR suggestion, it was good advice, and it was quite nice of her to offer to do it herself. I would ask you to reconsider, as it stands, you are on pretty thin ice. Please listen to what others are saying more and be a little less dismissive. While you may feel that they could be nicer, they are speaking in the best interests of Misplaced Pages and trying to help you. Apparition /Mistakes 20:21, 8 February 2009 (UTC)

Blocked

I've blocked you for 24hrs because of your repeated personal attacks and overall cantankerous attitude displayed during the last few days. Fut.Perf. ☼ 08:47, 9 February 2009 (UTC)

Trying again

I can tell that you want to be a good editor, so I'm going to try again to talk to you. First, let's talk background here: you have 533 edits. In those 533 edits, you've managed to bother people enough that you've been blocked twice, for 24 hours each. I have over 22,000 edits, and I've also been blocked twice: both by mistake or misunderstanding, and for under 3 hours each. You should be able to understand that that means I've learned a bit about how to edit effectively here. If I got blocked at your rate, I'd have been kicked off Misplaced Pages years ago ... they don't let people get 45 blocks, and that's how many it would have been.

You really need to stop letting anger show. It's impossible not to get pissed off at people here. It's going to happen. Do you think calling them "stupid" or "smarty-pants" helps? Does telling someone that's giving you advice to "shut it" help? Nope. That's pretty much what got you blocked this time. Especially when people that you do it to people that are trying to help you learn something about how to edit here.

As for your editing, some of it's OK. The articles that you created have a common problem, and I'll try to explain it. High-schools simplify a lot of stuff. They teach things as being absolutely true, when in fact it's just one of several techniques, or sometimes just your teacher's or textbook author's opinion. When I pointed you at English grammar as containing everything in your Elements of grammar article, I meant it. Had you stopped for a moment and studied that article, you would have learned a lot about English grammar, and would have seen for yourself that your article was redundant. Drmies tried to give you the same advice, and all you did was get angry at him, and that's silly. Look at his userpage, look at his edits. He teaches language instruction, is fluent in four languages and familiar with two more. Hard to tell from my userpage, but you should be able to guess from my hobbies and list of places that I've lived: I function well in three languages and am familiar with three more. Our advice is sound: we know more about grammar than you do, and when we try to help you, we don't deserve to be bitten. You would be well served to listen instead of bite.

Next time you want to create an article, why don't you leave a message on my page and describe what article you want to build? I can help you figure out whether its appropriate, and where it would fit in Misplaced Pages if it is. If you work on fitting in and helping, things will go smoothly. If you just bite the people that try to help, life will go badly quickly.—Kww(talk) 13:46, 9 February 2009 (UTC)

I'm not saying you guys don't know things, but my English teacher knows things, too. - Eugene Krabs (talk) 15:21, 9 February 2009 (UTC)

Then listen to your friend when he tells you that that was completely uncalled for and inappropriate. Elbutler hasn't ruined anything that I can see, and was pointing out that you had, indeed, missed my point. No one is saying that your English teacher doesn't know things. I'm saying that he is teaching you a highly simplified form of English grammar. The things he teaches you, by and large, are already covered, and don't warrant individual articles. That problem is an editing problem, and won't get you blocked if you listen to people's advice. Things like You stay out of this! You've ruined enough are a sign of an attitude problem, and that problem will get you blocked.—Kww(talk) 15:42, 9 February 2009 (UTC)

For someone ostensibly interested in English grammar, it's surprising that you would write the grammatically incorrect "This is between Kww and I," rather than "This is between Kww and me." Bongo matic 18:32, 9 February 2009 (UTC)

Actually, no, you're the one who's incorrect. Kww and I is the correct way to say it. - Eugene Krabs (talk) 20:41, 9 February 2009 (UTC)

LOL. Here's free advice from an English grammar teacher. Prepositions such as between govern the object case (that is, according to the normative grammar which your high school teacher is certainly trying to impart to you. In reality, the situation is of course far more complex, and you may be consoled, your "mistake" isn't necessarily really one.) Fut.Perf. ☼ 20:47, 9 February 2009 (UTC)

I'll grant you that. Sorry... :-) Fut.Perf. ☼ 21:04, 9 February 2009 (UTC)

Block question

Shouldn't I be able to edit by now? It still says I'm blocked, but it's been 24 hours. Thanks in advance. - Eugene Krabs (talk) 15:14, 10 February 2009 (UTC)

Ah, sorry about that, probably an autoblock that was accidentally triggered during the normal block. I can't find any that's still active right now. Can you try again if you can edit now, and if not, post the exact block message you get on trying? I'll need the "autoblock id" number or your IP address to remove it, if there is still one. Fut.Perf. ☼ 17:59, 10 February 2009 (UTC)

Just got back. I am able to edit now. Thanks for the response. - Eugene Krabs (talk) 18:38, 10 February 2009 (UTC)

48 hour block

Note to other admins

Feel free to unblock without contacting me. PhilKnight (talk) 20:27, 10 February 2009 (UTC)

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Eugene, I'll unblock, if you agree not to make any more page moves. PhilKnight (talk) 20:50, 10 February 2009 (UTC)

Fine, but can you at least move those pages I moved back so they match how the other "List of Pokemon" episodes articles are. I said you because I'm promising not to move anymore pages without discussion prior to moving a page. - Eugene Krabs (talk) 20:54, 10 February 2009 (UTC)

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