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	Look at the new banner made by ] in the top of French « Portail de la Littérature » . Fine result, is not it ? You can have it too ! It's a gallery of pictures randomly selected from the list . Import model, and complete lists if you want. (Sorry for using basic English).] (]) 13:39, 20 November 2008 (UTC)		Look at the new banner made by ] in the top of French « Portail de la Littérature » . Fine result, is not it ? You can have it too ! It's a gallery of pictures randomly selected from the list . Import model, and complete lists if you want. (Sorry for using basic English).] (]) 13:39, 20 November 2008 (UTC)

			== A possibly useful external link for articles on Poets. ==

			See http://de.wikipedia.org/lyrikline.org. There was briefly an article here on lyrikline.org, it was speedy deleted under a mistaken impression that the user who created it was affiliated with the site, due to having taken a user name here of ] (i.e., "poet."). I have had the article userfied, it's now at ]. Currently the site is blacklisted due to alleged linkspam, which consisted simply of several editors (at least two, apparently) adding many links to articles on poets pointing to the poets' pages on lyrikline. The only wiki which currently permits links to lyrikline.org, as far as I can tell, is de.wikipedia, and they have experienced no linkspamming since they whitelisted it, according to ], who is admin on both de and en.wikipedia, but they do have the link in many articles on poets, and the links are stable without apparent controversy. I would like the opinion of en.wikipedia editors involved with articles on notable poets to consider the usefulness of this site, it seems to meet the general guidelines for external links. It's non-commercial, with support from reputable individuals and institutions. It is nearly certain that it has permission to host all that it hosts. For each poet included, it has text, audio files of the poet reading, generally contributed by the poets, a bibliography, and a biography. Given that it is an edited source with inclusion standards, it should be considered a reliable source, and would also show notability. It is multilingual, so, for many different languages, one can read the original language, hear the poet reading the work, and read translations. I can't link to it here, because of the blacklist, but the de.wikipedia article has a link at the bottom.

			If there are a few editors who consider the site usable, it should be possible to get specific pages whitelisted, even if the whole site remains blacklisted. However, there really isn't any reason I've been able to find for continuing the blacklisting; if a number of pages are whitelisted, and especially if the article is undeleted (as I consider likely, I'll inform this page of deletion review when it comes up), it should be fairly easy to either get the whole site whitelisted here, or delisted on meta, where the global blacklist is maintained. --] (]) 22:14, 10 February 2009 (UTC)

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Horror icon

I strongly protest to the horror icon -- is it not rather puerile? A smiley face with vampire teeth... Please, alter that.

A new category for literature: Essayists

I believe that this category should be added, in addition to the existing one of 'Essays'. I can't, however, figure out how to do that. If someone knows, could they help me out with that? Thank you.

Damian.kelleher 09:47, 24 April 2006 (UTC)

I can't get it on the main page of categories, however, when you click on the word literature in blue above the list, it shows up on a page of subcategories. Sorry that I couldn't be of more help.

Isabella123 -- 00:48, 27 April 2006 (UTC)

The role of the editor in literature

Doesn't seem to be a good article about the profession that looks at the work of an author and makes amendments. All we seem to have is the rather poor editing.

I don't know what an article on literary editing would properly be called. But if anyone wants to take it upon themselves, they might want to add this external link:

Black day for the blue pencil
- an extensive article from The Guardian, August 6, 2005 by Blake Morrison suggesting that the art of literary editing is in decline and discussing the relationship between famous authors and their editors.

--bodnotbod 18:21, August 7, 2005 (UTC)

Edit links

Someone should fix the edit links, they link to editing redirect pages... feydey 21:16, 14 April 2006 (UTC)

Fixed myself. feydey 21:46, 14 April 2006 (UTC)

Portal:Literature/Did you know

Is that page meant to be updated on a regular basis similar to Template:Did you know? It hasn't been edited for over a year. And what about Portal:Literature/Things you can do? <KF> 17:45, 23 April 2006 (UTC)

Chapbooks

What about the category of Small Press publications, both poetry and prose, of Chapbooks. Pamphlet sized books of less than 48 pages, saddlestitched. WayneRay 23:30, 3 May 2006 (UTC)

Swahili literature

Could you please take a look at the Swahili literature article and exp,ad if possible? -- Szvest 00:27, 2 October 2006 (UTC) User:FayssalF/Sign

Literature awards: Please contribute to a discussion about awards lists

A proposal (at Talk:Poetry prizes) has been made to merge Poetry prizes into List of poetry awards. The discussion has been broadened in an attempt to get opinions on several proposals for improving poetry awards articles (mostly made up of lists of awards). But poetry awards articles aren't much different from literary awards articles, and the same standards or guidelines (or perhaps just suggestions) should apply to all literary awards. There's also a question about how to organize the growing number of literary awards articles. Currently there is no one page for all literary awards, although List of prizes, medals, and awards#Literature has a good-sized list, and "Category:Literary awards" exists.

Incidentally, the lists of award winners are slowly being cross indexed with the " in literature" articles (example: 2005 in literature), and together with the biographies of writers on Misplaced Pages, this project could soon produce the best site on the Web for anyone researching or even just browsing literary award winners. For people searching for a book to read and looking for clues as to who the better authors are, this could be very useful.

So please contribute to the discussion at Talk:Poetry prizes. Noroton 16:33, 8 November 2006 (UTC)

Book cover replacement project

(Sorry for some cross-posting, but I'm hoping to get the word out.) I've started WikiProject Free book covers, which used to be in my user space, as a project to replace fair use images of old books with public domain ones. All of these images are affected by the replaceable clause of the fair use policy, so this is a crucial task. We've gotten a lot done while it was in user space but there's still a lot of work to be done, so please come lend a hand. Every replacement advertises the project, so even doing one or two will help. Let me know if you have any questions. Thanks! Chick Bowen 21:03, 14 December 2006 (UTC)

Policy re: using "year in literature" linking.

I originally posted this at Misplaced Pages:Village pump (policy), but though subsequent questions have attracted a fair bit of comment, nobody seems to have a view on this. Can anyone here help?...

I was planning on working through our articles on writers. I was going to use those 'year in literature links', eg 1939 in literature, but with a pipe, so that just the year appears, eg 1939.

I felt that this would be an especially useful thing to do for the year of publication of a writer's works, since clicking then brings up other works released that year. And if you use such links for dates of birth and death, clicking brings up other writers born/deceased in those years.

However, I figured I'd better check I was doing the right thing. I started out by looking at two literature featured articles; Samuel Beckett and Robert A. Heinlein. Neither of those articles seem to favour linking the years at all, let alone specifically.

I checked out the relevant bit of the style guide: Misplaced Pages:Manual of Style (dates and numbers), but that doesn't seem to help on this point.

Any advice? I'm rather keen on my approach, but I'm made uncertain by looking at the Featured Articles. --bodnotbod 20:17, 19 January 2007 (UTC)

Well, great minds think alike. I've been doing the same thing linking poets articles with with years-in-poetry pages although if I come across a writer who is both a poet and a playwright, or novelist, or short story writer, any years for those books I link to the years in literature pages. I absolutely think that the birth and death years should be linked to literature except for those who are best known for their poetry — for people reading articles on authors these literature and poetry pages are much more useful than are the general year pages. These years-in pages also have links to the general year articles (generally). These years in literature and years in poetry articles have been expanding recently, and I don't think the style guides have caught up with that. Thanks for doing it and please continue. And please consider poetry links for poetry — every year since 1800 is now represented, and a good number before that, which is continuing to expand (see List of years in poetry Noroton 19:42, 20 January 2007 (UTC)

Ooh, I hadn't realised there were poetry ones too. Thanks for making me aware of that, and I'll endeavour to use whichever is most appropriate. --bodnotbod 19:29, 23 January 2007 (UTC)

Historical Fiction

Not sure if this is the right place to ask, but Historical Fiction now redirects to Historical Novel. As a novel would fit under a specific literary genre, shouldln't it be the other way around? If this is the wrong place to ask for a direction to go with this sorry, I'm just not sure who handles literary articles. Hewinsj 20:55, 4 April 2007 (UTC)

drowning ruth (novel)

Someone screwed with this, if you read the bottom it is like a radio shout out. This needs to be edited, I hate how people can't leave things alone! —Preceding unsigned comment added by 216.109.255.7 (talk) 20:12, 10 September 2007 (UTC)

Drowning Ruth Has now been reverted to remove vandalism and discussion page header now in place Boylo 00:50, 12 September 2007 (UTC)

when not to use the Portal tag?

Should the Lit Portal tag be used on all articles related to Authors and individual works? Aristophanes68 (talk) 03:14, 5 March 2008 (UTC)

The Master and Margarita

No one seems to read this talk about the Easter week as "timeline" for the novel. I have read in the first page of the novel that the history begins in May and "May" is incompatible with Easter. Is there someone who may explain? --Schickaneder (talk) 06:39, 11 June 2008 (UTC)

Suggestion

Look at the new banner made by User:Stef48 in the top of French « Portail de la Littérature » here. Fine result, is not it ? You can have it too ! It's a gallery of pictures randomly selected from the list here. Import model, and complete lists if you want. (Sorry for using basic English).PRA (talk) 13:39, 20 November 2008 (UTC)

A possibly useful external link for articles on Poets.

See http://de.wikipedia.org/lyrikline.org. There was briefly an article here on lyrikline.org, it was speedy deleted under a mistaken impression that the user who created it was affiliated with the site, due to having taken a user name here of Lyriker (i.e., "poet."). I have had the article userfied, it's now at User:Abd/Lyrikline.org. Currently the site is blacklisted due to alleged linkspam, which consisted simply of several editors (at least two, apparently) adding many links to articles on poets pointing to the poets' pages on lyrikline. The only wiki which currently permits links to lyrikline.org, as far as I can tell, is de.wikipedia, and they have experienced no linkspamming since they whitelisted it, according to Lustiger seth, who is admin on both de and en.wikipedia, but they do have the link in many articles on poets, and the links are stable without apparent controversy. I would like the opinion of en.wikipedia editors involved with articles on notable poets to consider the usefulness of this site, it seems to meet the general guidelines for external links. It's non-commercial, with support from reputable individuals and institutions. It is nearly certain that it has permission to host all that it hosts. For each poet included, it has text, audio files of the poet reading, generally contributed by the poets, a bibliography, and a biography. Given that it is an edited source with inclusion standards, it should be considered a reliable source, and would also show notability. It is multilingual, so, for many different languages, one can read the original language, hear the poet reading the work, and read translations. I can't link to it here, because of the blacklist, but the de.wikipedia article has a link at the bottom.

If there are a few editors who consider the site usable, it should be possible to get specific pages whitelisted, even if the whole site remains blacklisted. However, there really isn't any reason I've been able to find for continuing the blacklisting; if a number of pages are whitelisted, and especially if the article is undeleted (as I consider likely, I'll inform this page of deletion review when it comes up), it should be fairly easy to either get the whole site whitelisted here, or delisted on meta, where the global blacklist is maintained. --Abd (talk) 22:14, 10 February 2009 (UTC)

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