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Lomcevak (talk) 11:44, 18 September 2008 (UTC)

Natascha Engel

I have reverted edits that have appear to, principally, have come from a pair of anonymous IP's, one, specifically at the University of Central Lancashire.

A warning has been posted there.

Such edits reduce enclopaedic information, such as the full name of Engel's husband from David (Newton) Salisbury-Jones to 'David' (in the text of the entry). Is that supposed to convey some idea of 'intimacy' between Misplaced Pages and Engel/Salisbury-Jones.

Which commercial institutions referred to, do you have a problem with (?) ... perhaps it's Vale Vet's that refers to David (Newton) Salisbury-Jones' wife as the (MP) Natascha ... as Engel refers to her husband in her (official) website as Dave 'the (mere) vet ?'

Please list your disagreements and then we can discuss the ins and outs.

May I suggest, kindly, that before you make (possibly controversial) changes you add (at least cotemporarily, at least) to the discussion (you may see that this page has been full of controversy, if you take the time to read) page of the article. See the notes on modifications made to the main entry on residential information, for example.

Oh, and please sign your contributions to other's talk pages ... I think that is the usual Misplaced Pages convention ... like I have done on your talk page, to this.

Regards.

Lomcevak (talk) 11:14, 16 September 2008 (UTC)

P.S. Oh, yes, I meant to add that if your non-anonymous contributions got caught-up in reverting the anonymous ones, then my apologies ... please try again from the (non-anonymous) base ... with the provisos above in mind. Give reasoning for the changes you want to make - with evidence and examples. Expect reasoning and debate in return.

Lomcevak (talk) 11:22, 16 September 2008 (UTC)

Natascha Engel (Again)

I think the 'commecial institution' that you must be referring to is Vale Vets. I have to hypothesise because you don't make it clear and so prevent people from responding, specifically, to whatever you're objecting about. However, if you examine the site carefully you'll find that Engel is named albeit tangentially (... Natascha, who is a member of parliament.)

If you wish to remove KCL specific information, then feel free ... just provide your reasoning. I came on to this with Kings links already established and I think all I did was harmonise what I found to be 'in main text' external links (xlinks) to footnotes (see the second article History ref. dated 11 September 2008).

Your principal edit appeared to engage in whole sale surgery, in the process of which you removed completely encyclopaedic, and possibly very important (to one of her constituents), information about her residential arrangements, among other things, which I pointed out to you had been the result of much careful research, documented in the discussion pages.

Along the way you managed to introduce a completely unsourced reference, for example, to her policy on the 'smacking of children.' Now if you look, once again carefully, in the Publications section, you'll see I've added, on a stooge through the daily Google, a publicly available reference to her purported policy. If you want to add Hansard, then fill your boots. But at least get the reference.

Whole sale surgery is not a very good idea. If you want to change things, especially to an established article, do it bit-by-bit and along the way explain why you're making the change.

You 'exhort me' with:

• • Please don't disregard someone's edit because you don't agree with it. All I'm doing it attempting to get the page to adhere to the rules. You do not personally own the page, and anyone is open to edit it as they see fit. Please bear that in mind in the future.

A very good 'exhortation' which I will always be sure to 'bear in mind' as I'm sure you will too !

And good ways to avoid future confusion is not to use anonymous IPLs and, again, sign you 'contributions' to the talk pages of other editors.

Be well.

Lomcevak (talk) 13:22, 16 September 2008 (UTC)

Edit made on ideas at anon. IP contribs

You see, we try to be clean and honest here at Wiki ... see:

http://en.wikipedia.org/Natascha_Engel#Work_with_Youth

and then the discussion pages, before:

http://en.wikipedia.org/Talk:Natascha_Engel#Notice_of_a_Breakout_on_Youth

That's how we do it ! :-)

Lomcevak (talk) 08:41, 27 September 2008 (UTC)

Speedy deletion of Samuel Colin Ellis

A tag has been placed on Samuel Colin Ellis requesting that it be speedily deleted from Misplaced Pages. This has been done under section A7 of the criteria for speedy deletion, because the article appears to be about about a person, organization (band, club, company, etc.) or web content, but it does not indicate how or why the subject is important or significant: that is, why an article about that subject should be included in an encyclopedia. Under the criteria for speedy deletion, such articles may be deleted at any time. Please see the guidelines for what is generally accepted as notable

If you think that this notice was placed here in error, you may contest the deletion by adding {{hangon}} to the top of the page that has been nominated for deletion (just below the existing speedy deletion or "db" tag), coupled with adding a note on the talk page explaining your position, but be aware that once tagged for speedy deletion, if the page meets the criterion it may be deleted without delay. Please do not remove the speedy deletion tag yourself, but don't hesitate to add information to the page that would would render it more in conformance with Misplaced Pages's policies and guidelines. Lastly, please note that if the page does get deleted, you can contact one of these admins to request that they userfy the page or have a copy emailed to you. Pretzels 21:19, 15 February 2009 (UTC)

Promotion of Sam Ellis

Your 'promotion' of Sam Ellis is noted ... I've brought your Wiki entry of 'Sam Ellis' up to boilerplate/stub standard and created a discussion page where, first, the 'intimate' relations ('thinking-wise' that is) between you (Fetler), one Levret and Ellis are brought to public attention.

Cheers ;-)

Lomcevak (talk) 16:18, 17 February 2009 (UTC)