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There are some serious problems as to how the academic part of her life is documented in this article: all the bibliography entries listed are articles in scientific journals of which she is just one of the authors (we cannot even be 100% sure it is her, because all, except for the first one, say "Mosora F.", no full first and second name). Nowhere does it say that she was a member of the Belgian Academy of Sciences. What does it mean: "...she was Oceanography Chairwoman at the Liege University in Belgium"? And she seems not to have written any books; she has been the co-author of only one book, "Biomechanical Transport Processes" (actually it seems she was one of the five editors). Can one become a member of the Belgian Academy of Sciences so easily, I wonder.

I took out the first of the external links, because it said "Server not found."--Mycomp (talk) 11:51, 16 March 2009 (UTC)

I checked the website of the Belgian Academy. Her name is not on the list of members or associated members from 1769-2008. So I deleted the info in the article about that.--Mycomp (talk) 02:37, 17 March 2009 (UTC)

Taking out correct references with bogus reasons comes very close, if it is not indeed "vandalism". Mycomp--please refrain from deleting any more references that are correct--which they are. If you bothered to check the references you'd have found that you are completely wrong. Misplaced Pages Administrators please help prevent such incorrect actions by Mycomp.!

Here is the reference with the full name in the same area proving that you were wrong to delete the reference.

• Marcel Lacroix 1, Florentina Mosora 1, Micheline Pontus 1, Pierre Lefebvre 2, Alfred Luyckx 2, and Gabriel Lopez-Habib 2. Glucose Naturally Labeled with Carbon-13: Use for Metabolic Studies in Man.Science 3 August 1973: Vol. 181. no. 4098, pp. 445--446. DOI:10.1126/science.181.4098.445.Nu 04:56, 17 March 2009 (UTC)— Preceding unsigned comment added by Bci2 (talk • contribs) 04:56, 17 March 2009 (UTC)

The reference you show above is not the one I took out. Please check the "History" log. I took out a piece of double information (the same article listed was higher up on the list). And now I see that you put in another inexistent reference: the link used as reference that she was the "Oceanography Chairwoman" (you probably mean "dean") at the University of Liege leads to the page which lists what programs are taught ("List of degree programmes offered"). Her name does not appear anywhere on the page (I used the browser's "Find" function). Is that proof that she even worked there? Let alone that she was the "Oceanography Chairwoman"? What is more, I see you put back in that she is "Acad. Dr." although I proved it that she has never been a member of the Belgian Academy. And you put back a term which is a subjective opinion ("mediocre") which I will remove again. I see you used as a reference to back up the claim that she had 25 doctoral students a link which was nothing but the title of an article of which she was the co-author- there was nothing in the article about her being a doctoral thesis adviser or anything like that. So I removed that "reference" too. And please remember: falsely accusing someone of "vandalism" is tantamount to a personal attack, which is not the way to work at Misplaced Pages. --Mycomp (talk) 11:57, 17 March 2009 (UTC)

The facts are as stated in the entry, as the references clearly prove. The arguments brought up above specifically by only one user (--Mycomp) are invalid, and may possibly be "politically motivated" rather than of any actual substance. The erasing of any entry for any "political reasons" would be against Misplaced Pages policies and would also constitute (unconstitutional) censorship. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Bci2 (talk • contribs) 18:06, 17 March 2009 (UTC)

I see that "somebody" has added again as a reference for the allegation that she had 25 doctoral students the title of the book of which she was one of the co-editors (how can the title of a book prove that she had doctoral students?). And the University of Liege's website page that shows what courses they offer has been used as a reference for the allegation that she worked at the University. I don't dare delete these things again because of the 3 R rule.--Mycomp (talk) 13:27, 18 March 2009 (UTC)

Photo

What is with the photo? It looks like a bad scan of an old passport photo. Currently, it's tagged as unsourced and is likely going to disappear soon. Any ideas where this came from? - SummerPhD (talk) 17:09, 18 March 2009 (UTC)

Florentina Mosora's photo as a young actress comes from the public domain, public announcement poster of the movie "Post-restant", and the photo is tagged-- as it should be-- as a public domain image which was not, and is not, copyrighted.

Unfortunately, this is one of the very few photos currently available from private old sources for the young actress Florentina Ioana Mosora. Nu 13:31, 20 March 2009 (UTC)Bci2Nu 13:31, 20 March 2009 (UTC) Nu 13:25, 20 March 2009 (UTC) 20 March 2009 (UTC).

Furthermore, several pertinent references that document precisely Florentina Ioana Mosora's (her complete name) academic activties and positions have now been included in response to previous questions at the top of this discussion page that have been fully answered. Nu 13:29, 20 March 2009 (UTC)Bci2 20 March (UTC)— Preceding unsigned comment added by Bci2 (talk • contribs) 13:31, 20 March 2009 (UTC)

• I seriously doubt that a photo from a poster is "public domain" in the sense that copyright law uses it. --Crusio (talk) 14:15, 20 March 2009 (UTC)

Again, more unfounded accusations: a poster placed in the public domain in the early 1960's by the Romanian govt. in the '60's as an ad for the movie "Post-restant", was and is, in the public domain as "free art" and it was not/ is not copyrighted. It carries no copyright notice and it was not recorded as a copyright anywhere. For your information, although as a scientist I believe Monsieur le Docteur that you are aware already of the true facts:

please see The Royal Academies for Science and the Arts of Belgium

"There are **two** Royal Academies for Science and the Arts in Belgium, corresponding to the two main languages of the country, Dutch (Flanders) and French (Wallonia). The Academies are located in the Palace of Academies in Brussels.

L'Académie Royale des Sciences, des Lettres et des Beaux-Arts de Belgique is the older, being first so named in 1845. The Flemish Koninklijke Vlaamse Academie van België voor Wetenschappen en Kunsten was founded in 1938 by Julius Hoste Jr. **Both societies today fall under an umbrella organisation, The Royal Academies for Science and the Arts of Belgium (RASAB), which handles the international affairs of the two regional branches of the Academy.** Bon appetit!— Preceding unsigned comment added by Bci2 (talk • contribs) 15:00, 20 March 2009 (UTC)

• Great, now all that is needed are reliable independent sources that show that she actually was a member of these academies. --Crusio (talk) 17:11, 20 March 2009 (UTC)

Please also note that the main proposer for the deletion seems to be "politically motivated", and also initiated by someone who'd apparently like to turn the clock of Romanian history to the time period before 1989, by erasing pieces of history such as Florentina Ioana Mosora's biography simply because she emigrated to Belgium before 1989... thus signalling indirectly her discontent with the dictatorial govt. before '89. If she was not as succesful as she was in Belgium, and contributing much more than she ever could have at home, she "might have been forgiven" by the deletion petitioners, but as it is, she is a succesful dissident on which "Stalinist scissors" of history are being now attempted on Misplaced Pages by those two politically motivated characters who proposed the deletion of this entry, as if she never has existed as an important person, both Romanian and Belgian. Being succesful both as an actress in Romania--a real symbol of feminine beauty on the movie screen--just as beautiful and (more) attractive as, for instance, Marilyn Monroe, Brigitte Bardot, Sara Montiel, Gina Lolobrigida, etc. were--as well as being very successful as a scientist in Belgium, seems to be quite unbearable to such revanchard characters! There is more here at stake than just the correct referencing, etc. required by the wikings... Nu 22:35, 21 March 2009 (UTC)Bci2|talkNu 22:35, 21 March 2009 (UTC)Template:WP-PHYSICS (UTC)

RE: "What I find puzzling is that there is nothing in the article whatsoever about her death, or, if that source you trust so much is correct,"

Reply: she died tragically at 54 of cancer... are you so cruel to mention that in her biography on the web?

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