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Vormsi enn probably needs your attention

FYI - DGG nominated the article for deletion - I don't understand his reasoning yet, but he has earned my respect for his intelectual integrity. This could well be the first occasion, where I will disagree with him. Power.corrupts (talk) 18:43, 2 March 2009 (UTC)

Jaikism

Here we go. Sort of funny. --Miacek and his crime-fighting dog (woof!) 12:01, 8 March 2009 (UTC)

I figure KL has great future ahead as a snake oil salesman. Or perhaps, snake oil derivative salesman. Διγουρεν_{Εμπρος!} 16:38, 8 March 2009 (UTC)

For the record, the Great Debate in LHV forum has ended after everybody realised that there's nothing that can beat umpteenth repetition of the same nonsense in a fair debate. Διγουρεν_{Εμπρος!} 20:20, 20 March 2009 (UTC)

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User:Digwuren/Talk:Soviet occupation denialism

I have commented away the project transclusions as it caused a lot of problems for categories, especially for Article alerts. I can elaborate if you don't understand what I'm talking about.Headbomb {_{κοντριβς} – WP Physics} 04:18, 10 March 2009 (UTC)

LOL

I for one think you are a very mature seven year old. Ostap 18:32, 18 March 2009 (UTC)

Thank you. It took me a whole year to learn it, but it was well worth it. Διγουρεν_{Εμπρος!} 19:31, 18 March 2009 (UTC)

AE

There was some egregious personal attack on you by Russavia in January. Well, there have been many since then, but I mean that one which was really unforgettable. It alone outweights everything in his AE by far. Any chance you remember where it was? Colchicum (talk) 22:28, 18 March 2009 (UTC)

I think I know what you have in mind, but it'll take some time to actually find it. Διγουρεν_{Εμπρος!} 23:22, 18 March 2009 (UTC)

Here is it: . Wow, it is even worse than I thought. Colchicum (talk) 00:21, 19 March 2009 (UTC)

Attacks resumed: . His case is lost. Colchicum (talk) 16:30, 20 March 2009 (UTC)

Thank you. Διγουρεν_{Εμπρος!} 18:39, 19 March 2009 (UTC)

I am sure Russavia will never submit this case to ArbCom. First of all, it is he who was incivil. Second, he called ArbCom proceedings "Stalinist trials". How can he trust them? His "AE" is just another disruption.Biophys (talk) 14:10, 19 March 2009 (UTC)

There's an old Estonian saying which could be translated as it's best to plan for contingencies before they happen. Of course, being a chronic procrastinator, I hope you're right. Διγουρεν_{Εμπρος!} 18:39, 19 March 2009 (UTC)

His AE indeed goes against one of the Arbcom's rulings (from the Irpen-Piotrus case or something like this), but his dislike of the Arbcom will hardly stop him. He can nominate the Kosovo-some obscure Pacific island relations substubs for deletion and then passionately oppose proposed deletion of Russia-some obsure Pacific island relations substubs, oppose Putinland and then create the eSStonia or Georgia for Georgians rubbish, advocate removal of unofficial, yet serious explanations of the 1999 bombings and strive to include fringe Russian theories of the Litvinenko assasination, remove some sources he doesn't like as unreliable and then refer to blogs, accuse others of stalking and stalk Muscovite99 across several different Wikipedias, defend some of the worst POV-pushers against well-deserved sanctions and accuse others of POV-pushing. And he doesn't see anything wrong with what he did in September. It is quite possible that he doesn't realize this himself, but why should we care? Maybe he will submit his case and even get some people here blocked, including himself, of course. Just behave calmly and keep in mind that most Russian editors here, except for the bunch of edit-warriors on the Russia-Georgia war article and some banned trolls, don't really share his viewpoint, they are just too polite to discuss this with him. I am curious where is Moreschi with his banhammer? HW, for example, would certainly fit the anvil profile. Colchicum (talk) 15:18, 19 March 2009 (UTC)

I certainly agree with everything, except you are missing his non-stop 24 hour editing without any interruptions for sleep. This can only be explain by editing by several users, no matter what checkuser tells. This also explains his productivity. He downloaded 5,000+ of Putin's images in Commons, after getting this authorization letter he placed in Commons. Please read it. I am not going to comment anything further.Biophys (talk) 16:35, 19 March 2009 (UTC)

Well, that particular achievement is somewhat helpful, though I hate when he change every decent portrait to a picture taken at a meeting with Pootie-Poot or Medved (even if the subject is known to dislike the couple) and I don't really think we need that much pictures of them and categories like commons:Category:Vladimir Putin in Saint Petersburg. As to his sleep habits, I won't comment. I am able to do similar things, I just wouldn't devote much of my time to Russian politicians, who are nobody to me and who will ignominiously perish in ten years or so anyway. But such is passion, nothing can be done about it. Colchicum (talk) 17:02, 19 March 2009 (UTC)

How do you like this personality cult? Crap of monumental proportions. Colchicum (talk) 22:25, 19 March 2009 (UTC)

You should look here (I especially like Patrushev and Budanov in the list) or Koni (dog). Passion? This is hard to swallow. I agree that Hanzo had passion.Biophys (talk) 23:57, 19 March 2009 (UTC)

Ironically, this sort of thing is likely to create a Figaro here, Figaro there effect. A bad case of that could make the readers think Putin and Medvedev are trying to be the groom in every Misplaced Pages wedding picture. Διγουρεν_{Εμπρος!} 22:41, 20 March 2009 (UTC)

I also noticed this thing (and my name mentioned, too :-)) I hope he'll calm down: being such an active user, he probably shouldn't pay too much attention to the minor skirmishes he encounters. Anyway, even if the case is accepted, I won't take part in it, as I'm busy in real life and even here in wiki, I have way better things to do.--Miacek and his crime-fighting dog (woof!) 17:47, 19 March 2009 (UTC)

Could I entice you with a shiny toy? Unfortunately, experience shows that in order to prevail on any sort of ARBCOM, a lot of common sense is needed -- and I'm in a rather short supply. Διγουρεν_{Εμπρος!} 18:56, 19 March 2009 (UTC)

Depends on what the toy really looks like, of course (omfg!lol!) ;-) If it's gonna be e.g. Lembit Valt or Estonian diaspora in Russia, we'll see! --Miacek and his crime-fighting dog (woof!) 19:08, 19 March 2009 (UTC)

Ignorance in misinterpreting the image of Russia

The Russian embassy in Stockholm has launched a scathing critique of Sveriges Television (SVT) for what it sees as a disgusting portrayal of Russia during the weekends Melodifestivalen finals. If Russians could see what happened on the stage of Globen on Saturday, Im fairly certain it will reduce the number of votes they give to the Swedish singer . The Russian embassy in Stockholm did issue an official statement condemning the piece: "We do not react to eccentricity by some lunatics whose Russophobia should place them in an asylum rather than on Globens stage." --Hapsala (talk) 14:05, 20 March 2009 (UTC)

Interesting. I didn't particularly care for the clip, but if they managed to make the embassy say that it wouldn't say anything, they must have managed to hit a proverbial nerve. Διγουρεν_{Εμπρος!} 21:03, 20 March 2009 (UTC)

Some newcomers...

Hi, I think you might want to check this. Here's some fellow who has been doing in et.wiki tricks somewhat similar to those played by Bloomfield. Now the guy has set his foot in English Misplaced Pages, too. Evidently, it's gonna take a shitload of effort to wikify, verify or even just clean up his concoctions. (Being no fan of A.Rüütel myself, I'd say his comments on that topic make me rather skeptical as to VanemTao's possible contributions to the 💕 ...). --Miacek and his crime-fighting dog (woof!) 19:29, 20 March 2009 (UTC)

It's probably not Bloomfield. Bloomfield was obsessed with anarchism. This one has other obsessions. But it's worrying. Διγουρεν_{Εμπρος!} 19:31, 20 March 2009 (UTC)

Yeah, just similar tactics. That's the person. I was never fond of ERSP politicians. --Miacek and his crime-fighting dog (woof!) 19:40, 20 March 2009 (UTC)

Unfortunately, I'm not sure I'm capable of going through all the material myself. But let me know if there's anything specific I can help with. Διγουρεν_{Εμπρος!} 22:07, 20 March 2009 (UTC)

This fellow created the article Karl Tõnisson, but seems notable enough given the reference I found. Martintg (talk) 20:44, 20 March 2009 (UTC)

Yes. Some of his creations are notable and legitimate, but the content is invariably of terrible quality. It seems quite a number of his bundles have been deleted in et.wiki, which made him run into rage.--Miacek and his crime-fighting dog (woof!) 20:53, 20 March 2009 (UTC)

... which is ironic, considering that the rulers of et.wiki are strong inclusionists. Διγουρεν_{Εμπρος!} 21:01, 20 March 2009 (UTC)

I think Karl Tõnisson is legitimate and notable. He was a weird fellow, but he existed, and he did some notable stuff. Ironically, a lot of what he did when he was alive resembles the things Bloomfield has been doing on Misplaced Pages. Διγουρεν_{Εμπρος!} 20:58, 20 March 2009 (UTC)

The spelling of Tennison would make for a fascinating DYK. Διγουρεν_{Εμπρος!} 22:07, 20 March 2009 (UTC)

Check your mail. Martintg (talk) 21:07, 20 March 2009 (UTC)

Thank you. I've responded.

I've heard his name in some other context. Probably something having to do with Christianity. Any idea what that might have been? Διγουρεν_{Εμπρος!} 21:37, 20 March 2009 (UTC)

et:Mall:kas

Excellent idea. Why don't we have something like this on English Misplaced Pages? Perhaps, it might be named {{?}}. Διγουρεν_{Εμπρος!} 21:40, 20 March 2009 (UTC)

{{?}} was taken, {{orly}} was taken, so I picked the next best thing: {{sure?}}. It works like this:

The moon is made out of Template:Sure?. Διγουρεν_{Εμπρος!} 21:46, 20 March 2009 (UTC)

I think I've seen such a gadget in French wiki, too.--Miacek and his crime-fighting dog (woof!) 22:59, 22 March 2009 (UTC)

A comment

I do not think you should be very active right now in this AE. Although it concerns you personally, please to not take it too close to the heart. One short comment should be enough. Sorry for the intervention.Biophys (talk) 22:24, 20 March 2009 (UTC)

Fair enough. I should be doing some friday night hacking, anyway. Διγουρεν_{Εμπρος!} 22:29, 20 March 2009 (UTC)

OK. Do not worry that he will file a case. He has no case.Biophys (talk) 13:52, 21 March 2009 (UTC)

User:Jehochman has displayed profound antipathy towards me before. Think that might be a problem? Διγουρεν_{Εμπρος!} 14:02, 21 March 2009 (UTC)

Unfortunately, you indeed behaved recklessly, which resulted in your ban, even though your ban was unfair. We should behave reasonably and calmly, and do not bother administrators too much, excluding cases when their intervention is unavoidable.Biophys (talk) 15:26, 21 March 2009 (UTC)

I like to think I understand the underground attitude. But as somebody who was born in the Soviet Union, somebody who remembers the profound fear of random KGB action, and subsequently grew up in the freedom granted by perestroika and the Fall of the Soviet Union, I find this attitude unsuitable for me. I like to think I'm a free person, and I do my best to refrain from systemic fear of a class of randomly acting powerful people. Consequently, I won't cower from administrators.

As you may remember, I lost my innocence regarding Misplaced Pages long ago, and this sort of thing figured heavilly into this. Διγουρεν_{Εμπρος!} 16:20, 21 March 2009 (UTC)

I understand your feelings with regard to the Soviet Union. However, there is something very strange. We both left this country long time ago (one way or another), but we returned back to wikipedia - only to find precisely the same Soviet-like mentality here - expressed by some other users. Why are we doing this? Probably we should not. This reminds me the stories about former prisoners of Gulag who willingly lived near their former labor camp, being unable to adjust to normal life. I became a worse person after editing here. Seriously.Biophys (talk) 18:01, 22 March 2009 (UTC)

You make an interesting point. I shall ponder over it. Διγουρεν_{Εμπρος!} 18:47, 22 March 2009 (UTC)

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GA review

If you disagree, you can bring the article to Misplaced Pages:Good article reassessment. Best wishes Hekerui (talk) 15:40, 25 March 2009 (UTC)

I believe you can also ask there to reevaluate a review. However, you're right, the normal way would be renomination. I left an additional comment on the review page. Hekerui (talk) 15:54, 25 March 2009 (UTC)

Try Template:Infobox Person. Hekerui (talk) 16:11, 25 March 2009 (UTC)

Are you able to help with this?

Hey Digwuren, I am working on User:Russavia/DipMis at the moment, and I have a photo of the embassy in Tallinn, but I don't have photos of the Consulate in Narva (Kiriku t. 8), and the Consular Department in Tartu (Ülikooli 1). As you are in Tartu, is there any possibility you may be able to get a photo of the Russian consular department building in Tartu? Also, do you know anyone in Narva whom I may be able to approach in order to get a photo of the Consulate there? Cheers --Russavia 20:35, 25 March 2009 (UTC)

I can take a photo of the Tartu consulate in the weekend. I probably can't help with the Narva one, though. Διγουρεν_{Εμπρος!} 20:51, 25 March 2009 (UTC)

Thanks for that, when you upload it to Commons, can you include it in Commons:Category:Consulates of Russia, and you can insert on the article itself, or let me know where it is, and I can do it. Might you be able to post a message on et.wiki with a request for the Narva consulate? I can't find the et equivalent of Misplaced Pages:Requested_pictures, so am etwiki doesn't have a similar request page? Any help appreciated. Cheers --Russavia 20:58, 25 March 2009 (UTC)

I stronly suggest you not collaborate with Ruavia. Probably decent people shouldn't communicate with such dishonest outcasts at all . Mature people should assume responsibility for what they are doing. From now on, let's let him absolutely alone. Something like Я не еду в разговариваю с Ruavia. He will get banned eventually anyway. Petri Krohn may be well worth reconciliation, this one is not. Colchicum (talk) 20:46, 28 March 2009 (UTC) P.S. Russavia or his pals, would you be so kind to report me for this? It's like a badge of honor.

Colchicum, it's simply inpolite. Judging from your logics, you do not show yourself as a decent person either, so what — nobody should deal with you? As the classic said, "I wonder who the judges are!" ellol (talk) 20:55, 28 March 2009 (UTC)

It is up to you to decide for yourself, up to Digwuren to decide for himself, and so on. I would be more than happy if you don't deal with me. Colchicum (talk) 21:07, 28 March 2009 (UTC)

Colchicum, don't be so touchy. I'm the normal guy, like you or Russavia. All are involved in the mutual task -- improving the Misplaced Pages. The differences in our views do not deny the idea that overall we are doing the Misplaced Pages better. Otherwise, who would ever need us here? ellol (talk) 21:20, 28 March 2009 (UTC)

Ellol, unfortunately, I do not see that some of your actions serve to improve WP content, even though you tell the opposite.Biophys (talk) 16:22, 29 March 2009 (UTC)

There's the little matter of Misplaced Pages being rather picky -- or shall we say, exclusive -- about betterment. If three people have three different ideas and each one is better standing alone, this principle of exclusion leads their coöperation to work like that of swan, pike and crayfish in a fable by Krylov. That's why it matters how people treat each other on Misplaced Pages. Διγουρεν_{Εμπρος!} 21:23, 28 March 2009 (UTC)

That's an interesting development. Διγουρεν_{Εμπρος!} 21:00, 28 March 2009 (UTC)

Colchicum, may I ask now for the umpteenth time that you stop trolling my username. If Digwuren wants to help he can; regardless of disagreements we may have, if he were to ask me for assistance for something from my town, and I was in the position of helping, I would do it. If he wants to, that is up to him, and I leave it up to him if he is able to help; if not, I will find someone else to help do this. --Russavia 21:02, 28 March 2009 (UTC)

I'll need to think about the situation. Consider your request frozen for the time being. Διγουρεν_{Εμπρος!} 21:04, 28 March 2009 (UTC)

No problem, don't bother with it Digwuren, I'll find someone else to do it. --Russavia 21:26, 28 March 2009 (UTC)

Thanks. It'll make my life a bit simpler. Διγουρεν_{Εμπρος!} 21:32, 28 March 2009 (UTC)

While I'm still trying to piece together all the details about Muscovite, I've learnt that the conflict between Russavia and Muscovite is primarily one of opinion. Russavia is using (and abusing) his superior knowledge of Misplaced Pages procedures and traditions to permanently get rid of Muscovite -- who in some other context would easily be considered "content opponent". Ironically, eliminationism of this kind is one of the defining characteristics of Nazism, and one of the most important precursors to the notorious Nazi crime of Holocaust. Naturally, I can not approve of Russavia's actions in furthering eliminationist goals. Accordingly, I must deny the request mentioned above, and all further requests by Russavia for indefinite time.

Thank you, Colchicum, for bringing this matter to my attention. I've been too busy lately to keep track of AN/I, and I would likely have missed it otherwise. Διγουρεν_{Εμπρος!} 20:30, 30 March 2009 (UTC)

P. S. The saga of User:Bonaparte, the famous Misplaced Pages outlaw, should be mandatory reading for every Misplaced Pages administrator. It's a great example of why Misplaced Pages should *not* apply blocks in a random and whimsical manner. Nobody wins when proficient editors are turned into outlaw editors, which is exactly what block cascades do. Διγουρεν_{Εμπρος!} 20:30, 30 March 2009 (UTC)

More of the same: . Διγουρεν_{Εμπρος!} 06:42, 1 April 2009 (UTC)

AfD nomination of Chile–Estonia relations

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for that essay I never get around to write

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Colchicum (talk) 21:06, 29 March 2009 (UTC)

Suva would appreciate this a lot!

But considering what we've learnt of history, the humourless people who deleted {{notpropaganda}} are likely to go after this one, too. :-/ Διγουρεν_{Εμπρος!} 21:27, 29 March 2009 (UTC)

I think all the heroes of Russia combined are rather pathetic compared to this. And he is not even at DYK. Has HS put a link to Misplaced Pages on one of its articles as usual? Colchicum (talk) 03:03, 30 March 2009 (UTC)

Enjoy!. Hystorian, as I call such personalities. Colchicum (talk) 13:34, 30 March 2009 (UTC)

Even better. Colchicum (talk) 14:36, 30 March 2009 (UTC)

Bäckman?! Colchicum (talk) 16:38, 30 March 2009 (UTC)

Or Hietanen. Very likely, I'd say. Διγουρεν_{Εμπρος!} 16:39, 30 March 2009 (UTC)

I've previously compared Bäckman to Kalev Jaik, the man who claims that commercial bankers and Estonian government embezzled the capital that had been invested in Estonia by Soviet Union, and who recently published his fourth book about the proper design of perpetuum mobiles. But the lovesick puppy comparison in the first article seems rather interesting, too. Διγουρεν_{Εμπρος!} 16:44, 30 March 2009 (UTC)

Well, the institute is indeed named Johan Beckman Institute, don't ask me why. Beware, however, Бякман is sensitive: "За это тоже полагается тюрьма, поскольку подобные утверждения вредят моей работе и подрывают научную репутацию." Now I see why it is so difficult to find reviews of his work: Have fun. Colchicum (talk) 17:04, 30 March 2009 (UTC)

Well, Finnish 'ä' pronounces exactly like Estonian 'ä', and Estonian 'ä' is routinely transliterated to Russian as 'я'. Hence, for example, Lasnamäe becomes Ласнамяе. Διγουρεν_{Εμπρος!} 17:07, 30 March 2009 (UTC)

I know, but probably it doesn't matter for them. Here is the official, uhm, website: . Colchicum (talk) 17:22, 30 March 2009 (UTC)

And it looks like Swedish ä is normally rendered as е. Colchicum (talk) 17:35, 30 March 2009 (UTC)

Is the institute itself notable? If it's just a blog, maybe we shouldn't even mention it. How many employees it has, for example? Διγουρεν_{Εμπρος!} 17:41, 30 March 2009 (UTC)

No, we have to mention it, it's funny, and could potentially discredit Baryshnikov's pamphlet even more. A separate article about the institute is not needed, but a mention there is ok. Colchicum (talk) 18:04, 30 March 2009 (UTC)

Mrs. Hietanen is at work again. Colchicum (talk) 19:29, 30 March 2009 (UTC)

Look, the sections were a bad idea. The IP have incredibly messed them up. Colchicum (talk) 19:53, 30 March 2009 (UTC)

How would it have helped if we hadn't sectioned the article? S/he knows what s/he likes and what not, and can navigate in the article well even without any sections, I'm afraid. Διγουρεν_{Εμπρος!} 19:58, 30 March 2009 (UTC)

If the information is arranged chronologically, it is much easier to fix. And now we have his book in one section, the open letter in another, the reaction of the university in yet another. Stupidity. Well, he has got the international publicity he has strived for. What's wrong with him now? I don't understand. Colchicum (talk) 20:02, 30 March 2009 (UTC)

I've taken a detailed look at his/her edits, and most are problematic. Let the current spree end, and deal with them then, together.

By the way, did you notice how s/he attempted to misattribute the EE article to a single policeman? This kind of scholarship wouldn't be tolerated from freshmen at most universities. Διγουρεν_{Εμπρος!} 20:05, 30 March 2009 (UTC)

I'll take a thorough look on this. Some of my software tools are likely to help with this.

But today is the Tax Declaration Day, and I'll have to make sure my tax forms are in ordnung. So, as the orcs say, nar udautas. :-( Διγουρεν_{Εμπρος!} 12:41, 31 March 2009 (UTC)

It can speak! Colchicum (talk) 20:02, 31 March 2009 (UTC)

Now this is what I like most on Misplaced Pages. Yeah, that was Bäckman himself. Nothing new here. Colchicum (talk) 00:15, 1 April 2009 (UTC)

Actually, this might be some evidence that the address belongs to Bäckman himself and not Hietanen. If I recall correctly, Bäckman's Estonian skills are poor, and Hietanen is fluent in Estonian. Hietanen would easily understand what the article really says. Of course, this evidence alone is not conclusive, as Hietanen's track record in scholarly analysis isn't exactly stellar. Διγουρεν_{Εμπρος!} 20:34, 30 March 2009 (UTC)

Russian Misplaced Pages says: "Йохан Бякман является участником Википедии." Colchicum (talk) 21:02, 30 March 2009 (UTC)

The IP might be Bäckman himself since he lives in Espoo.

Regarding his Swedish name it can as well be spelled Beckman since the pronunciation would be the same. So Бекман is correct if he is speaking Swedish. Närking (talk) 21:19, 30 March 2009 (UTC)

Well, that wasn't the most fascinating encounter anyway. I felt rather uneasy when I had created Behgjet Pacolli and run into an IP there. Colchicum (talk) 21:33, 30 March 2009 (UTC)

Well, he is either Юхан Бекман or Йохан Бякман. Colchicum (talk) 00:52, 31 March 2009 (UTC)

It looks like this crackpot used to say similar things about Finland in 2002. Colchicum (talk) 03:03, 31 March 2009 (UTC)

Is this appropriate? I've just reported him. Colchicum (talk) 12:39, 31 March 2009 (UTC)

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Curious

Well, it is pretty obvious from Finnish Misplaced Pages that the said IP is merely fi:Käyttäjä:Johan Bäckman who doesn't bother to log in anymore. Also watch the style. :) BTW, our friends are now trying to smuggle irrelevant stuff into Soviet deportations from Estonia. 120 y.o. Nazi criminals? Who have lived through 40 years of the Soviet rule? Sure. Now I think we should let them disgrace themselves. Colchicum (talk) 15:32, 2 April 2009 (UTC)

Thank you, I'll take a look. Διγουρεν_{Εμπρος!} 15:33, 2 April 2009 (UTC)

I know what the Georgian Daily article says. I'll be spending some of my Air Swine frequent flier's miles. Let's hope the scenery will be beautiful. Διγουρεν_{Εμπρος!} 15:42, 2 April 2009 (UTC)

Ok, now, you know, shunning is the most appropriate course of action here, let it start, and it will soon take on global dimensions :)) Colchicum (talk) 20:13, 2 April 2009 (UTC)

Colchicum (talk) 12:16, 3 April 2009 (UTC)

Thank you. I didn't even know of this blog of his. Διγουρεν_{Εμπρος!} 12:19, 3 April 2009 (UTC)

Also, . Διγουρεν_{Εμπρος!} 12:21, 3 April 2009 (UTC)

Our vexatious litigators keep adding that the neo-Nazi scout is "a Finnish lawyer and Order of the Cross of Terra Mariana recipient". Colchicum (talk) 19:38, 4 April 2009 (UTC)

Truly weird. The first time, might have been accident, not realising what the blog is. To edit war over it -- no accident any more. And now that.

If not neo-Nazis then what? A caricature of a wikiwarrior? Διγουρεν_{Εμπρος!} 06:05, 5 April 2009 (UTC)

It looks like I have just contracted eliminationism. However, please, don't engage in battles with them. It can wait. I find it very curious (and disruptive) that the persons who obviously know nothing about this region suddenly stepped in just to make a point. Colchicum (talk) 12:40, 5 April 2009 (UTC)

I find it curious that suddenly, the locus of the conflict has shifted from the neo-Nazi quote to moving the article around, don't you? Διγουρεν_{Εμπρος!} 12:47, 5 April 2009 (UTC)

(after ec) I wouldn't like to 'valada õli tulle' ('add oil to the fire'?) as the Estonians say, but this time Digwuren and Martintg have been absolutely correct in reverting the additions, only reason of which was to create artificial controversy and cater for battlefield. There seem to be some users here who, having once had a conflict with you, immediately concentrate their energy to stalk your previous contributions with the aim of making you feel miserable by wikilawyering (haha ;-)). Anyway, I don't think there's any reason to start an edit war over the article's name right now. Miacek and his crime-fighting dog (woof!) 12:50, 5 April 2009 (UTC)

I reviewed the history, and maybe there's a 3RR here. Do move-reverts count together with content reverts? I know of only a single precedent -- . Quite a disillusionment for Alexia, if memory serves. Διγουρεν_{Εμπρος!} 12:59, 5 April 2009 (UTC)

That's probably because very few people are dumb enough to try. In my textbooks a revert is a revert. Colchicum (talk) 13:12, 5 April 2009 (UTC)

I'd submit that move-reverts are more disruptive, not less disruptive. Particularly disruptive if done against consensus. Διγουρεν_{Εμπρος!} 13:21, 5 April 2009 (UTC)

Hey, don't clutter the report. It is clear enough as it stands. Colchicum (talk) 13:39, 5 April 2009 (UTC)

Obviously somebody wants to hijack the report. Let's not feed the trolls. Colchicum (talk) 13:43, 5 April 2009 (UTC)

And I couldn't resist the temptation :( Colchicum (talk) 14:10, 5 April 2009 (UTC)

Ohoho, look who is back! Don't react. You may wish to familiarize yourself with Misplaced Pages:Requests_for_arbitration/Eastern_European_disputes#Amnesty and feel secure. Colchicum (talk) 14:32, 5 April 2009 (UTC)

Clearer illustrations of eliminationism are seldom seen. I wonder what might have triggered this event? Will there be other old acquaintances around? Διγουρεν_{Εμπρος!} 14:44, 5 April 2009 (UTC)

Why should I? Anyway, yes, I am lagging behind our friends, both in this and in eliminationism. In fact, the only thing I have ever eliminated was infamous Miyokan and his socks. Colchicum (talk) 12:24, 6 April 2009 (UTC) And even there mostly he must be credited with this himself. Colchicum (talk) 12:26, 6 April 2009 (UTC)

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CfD nomination of Category:Neo-Stalinism

I have nominated Category:Neo-Stalinism (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs) for deletion. Your opinions on the matter are welcome; please participate in the discussion by adding your comments at the discussion page. Thank you. Russavia 03:15, 3 April 2009 (UTC)

CfD nomination of Category:Neo-Stalinist organisations

I have nominated Category:Neo-Stalinist organisations (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs) for deletion. Your opinions on the matter are welcome; please participate in the discussion by adding your comments at the discussion page. Thank you. Russavia 03:17, 3 April 2009 (UTC)

Hello

I notice your sig is in Greek. Do you speak Greek, are you Greek, or is it just for fun? If this question is too personal and you choose not to reply I will understand. NikoSilver 16:25, 5 April 2009 (UTC)

It's just for fun. Διγουρεν_{Εμπρος!} 16:34, 5 April 2009 (UTC)

I figured. You know, they're calling you "Greek" in that talkpage because of your vote and the script... (sh** I'm giving excuses, like as if "Greek" is supposed to be some kind of an insult!) NikoSilver 16:56, 5 April 2009 (UTC)

Where? I couldn't find it -- even after my explicit clarification that I just like Greek letters. Διγουρεν_{Εμπρος!} 19:30, 5 April 2009 (UTC)

It was a collective reference by Horologium in the end of the talkpage, that all opposers are Greek. Not that it should matter, but I thought you should know. Best. NikoSilver 19:51, 5 April 2009 (UTC)

Looks like Ru...avia is stalking you now too

Notice how he has never edited this article before, yet finds it in order to "rvv". If this is not WP:TEDIOUS by Russavia, I really don't know what is. "Reverted 1 edit by Digwuren" is not a reason for blind reverting other's edits, and he only does so to piss you off. If this stalking becomes a problem for you, let me know, and I will file RFAR straight away in regards to it. His accusation that "you are an Estonian editor who hates Russia and are here to help advocate your hate-filled POV on those subjects" almost got him block the other day, and I know that Arbcom will not look upon such things kindly, and even moreso so as the warrior is only recently back from a block for outing. The sooner POV-pushing Russavia is gone, the better off the project will be. Of course, it would be better if he changed his ways -- one would have thought that a two weeks long ban would have helped with that, but it obviously hasn't changed his way one iota. -- Colchicum (talk) 15:09, 7 April 2009 (UTC)

Please don't rush. Giving up control of timing for a little gain in time goes against every teaching of 孫武. Διγουρεν_{Εμπρος!} 15:36, 7 April 2009 (UTC)

Also note how they call you Digwarrior and stalk you across Estonia-related articles. With the next ArbCom the couple will be gone. Colchicum (talk) 15:23, 7 April 2009 (UTC)

Arbcom is a lot of work, and I'm pretty lazy. Miyokan went much, much easier -- exactly because he was so open about the ... shall we say, characteristic stuff he did. And so did Roobit. Διγουρεν_{Εμπρος!} 15:31, 7 April 2009 (UTC)

I mean with the ArbCom they'll initiate they will be gone. Colchicum (talk) 15:35, 7 April 2009 (UTC)

Yep. That's a good reason for waiting. Διγουρεν_{Εμπρος!} 15:38, 7 April 2009 (UTC)

Meanwhile, I've noticed stalking long time ago. It would be a problem if I was more active, but as I mainly work on other stuff these days, I can show a bit of patience. Διγουρεν_{Εμπρος!} 15:38, 7 April 2009 (UTC)

I get it now. Thanks, I needed it. Διγουρεν_{Εμπρος!} 15:42, 7 April 2009 (UTC)

Oh wow, he feels insecure and is on defense . Relax, Russavia. As of now this is merely a deterrent. Colchicum (talk) 15:47, 7 April 2009 (UTC)

There is such a thing as fundamentalist mindset. One of its many characteristics is that it believes everything (or almost everything) can only be classified in a single way, either in a particular context, or altogether. For example, a fundamentalist might believe that since blogs are nonreliable, the personal video blog of a Chicago lawyer can't be quoted. And the fundamentalist might believe that since ukazes are reliable, they make every article better.

The idea that an ukaz might be reliable about the orders of a president, and unreliable about the colour of the sky, or the idea that the very concept of a blog might not be the absolute evil, are not just unthinkable for a true fundamentalist; instead, they're manifestation of evildoing by the Great Confuser -- because they bedazzle people and make them think, they lead the flock away from the One True Teaching. Διγουρεν_{Εμπρος!} 16:05, 7 April 2009 (UTC)

Did I mention the idea that BBC might occasionally make mistakes? Διγουρεν_{Εμπρος!} 16:08, 7 April 2009 (UTC)

While referring to this nice shortcut, Russavia should know that he can be found in the "Log of blocks and bans" at the bottom himself and that the other party was banned for a year as well. Colchicum (talk) 16:35, 7 April 2009 (UTC)

Your new template is not exactly helpful, though. Colchicum (talk) 16:35, 7 April 2009 (UTC)

What are your considerations?

I thought a navibox would be somewhat more wieldy than a category, as a navibox allows to further classify the members. Διγουρεν_{Εμπρος!} 16:37, 7 April 2009 (UTC)

I think that open lists are not good as templates at all, and this particular list is unfortunately open. And right now it gives undue weight to those half-dead organizations. Does anybody need to navigate through shit of questionable notability? Colchicum (talk) 16:46, 7 April 2009 (UTC)

I think so. Apparently, there's a whole chain of these organisations, and they keep referring to each other as "See, that foreign committee supports us!" It serves our reader best if he can navigate through the whole chain easily via the navibox.

I realise the difficulties of boxing an open list, but this list grows reasonably slowly. Διγουρεν_{Εμπρος!} 16:49, 7 April 2009 (UTC)

The last entry is from January. What happened? Why is the list no longer updated? Διγουρεν_{Εμπρος!} 16:49, 7 April 2009 (UTC)

Moreschi's banhammer hasn't been active lately, otherwise some of our friends would have long been banned. Colchicum (talk) 16:52, 7 April 2009 (UTC)