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GAR of Exploration of Jupiter

Exploration of Jupiter has been nominated for a good article reassessment. Articles are typically reviewed for one week. Please leave your comments and help us to return the article to good article quality. If concerns are not addressed during the review period, the good article status will be removed from the article. Reviewers' concerns are here.

Plan

• In case you didn't notice, I replied to your Plan on its Talk.
• I think asking folks one by one to reply to your Plan is a very, very good idea. Ling.Nut (talk) 23:13, 4 June 2009 (UTC)

Thanks I did not notice so it is a good thing you let me know! I responded as best I can. I have asked some people to respond to my plan: Malleus, Ottava Rima, Salix Alba, Geometry guy, SilkTork, and John Carter. And, of course, you. Moni3 and Philichea know about it and have commented on the talk page. Regards, —Mattisse (Talk) 01:20, 5 June 2009 (UTC)

Astrophysics Data System

I was astonished that a 2005 FA could look so good and be up-to-date with today's FA standards, until I looked through the page history. Nice work. Dabomb87 (talk) 00:51, 6 June 2009 (UTC)

Thank you! Regards, —Mattisse (Talk) 00:54, 6 June 2009 (UTC)

Myōjin Yahiko

Its been long since Sagara Sanosuke became GA, but I finally edited the Myojin Yahiko article adding refs, exp lead, reception, creation, etc. I dont know if my grammar is better right now, but I made all the fixes you mentioned while fixing the Sanosuke article. Could you make a copy-edit to see if it can goes to GA. I was also thinking about getting the main series article, Rurouni Kenshin, to GA, but that one is too long and the one from Yahiko is shorter. Tell me if you can and take your time. Regards.Tintor2 (talk) 02:31, 6 June 2009 (UTC)

OK, I will look at it. Regards, —Mattisse (Talk) 02:34, 6 June 2009 (UTC)

Thanks.Tintor2 (talk) 14:36, 6 June 2009 (UTC)

Hope what I did was helpful! Regards, —Mattisse (Talk) 23:55, 7 June 2009 (UTC)

Thanks^_^.Tintor2 (talk) 23:57, 7 June 2009 (UTC)

It became GA. Thanks for the copy-edit.Tintor2 (talk) 15:32, 19 June 2009 (UTC)

I'm very happy to hear that. Congratulations! Regards, —Mattisse (Talk) 15:37, 19 June 2009 (UTC)

WT:GAN#Can non-contributors to an article nominate it for GAN?

Hey Mattisse, I'm not sure how active you are with GAN stuff while the arbitration is going on, but if you are still able to get into discussions there you might be interested in the question I just posted (linked above). Best, rʨanaɢ /_contribs 15:05, 6 June 2009 (UTC)

I really don't know what to say regarding this issue. It is complicated. Regards, —Mattisse (Talk) 23:55, 7 June 2009 (UTC)

Missionaries and the Origin of Species

Among your very helpful edits to On the Origin of Species, you questioned in an edit aummary "not clear who was "as missionaries" - the Fuegians?" They were indeed, according to Desmond and Moore, under the leadership of trainee missionary, a Mr. Matthews who found it rather hard going and left them to continue with the Anglican mission work on their own. See Second voyage of HMS Beagle#Tierra del Fuego for the dismal tale. Having said that, your edit was really for the best as it's a bit of a side issue, so I've left that aspect out. . . dave souza, talk 15:59, 8 June 2009 (UTC)

Your explanation does clarify why the three Fuegians might be different than those on the island, but I agree that it is tempting to get into distracting detail! Regards, —Mattisse (Talk) 16:32, 8 June 2009 (UTC)

retiring again

Hi Mattisse,

You'll recall that I had some reservations when you asked me to join the mentor list — not reservations about you, but reservations about the fact that I'm not too tightly attached to Misplaced Pages these days. So now I'm going to try to retire again. I wish the very best for you in all these things... Ling.Nut (talk) 01:27, 9 June 2009 (UTC)

I understand and will miss you and hope fervently that you will be back as you. —Mattisse (Talk) 00:22, 11 June 2009 (UTC)

Could GG, Malleus, and RP pinch hit for me?

Hi Mattisse, I, on the other hand, am certainly not retiring, but will be away until July 1. (We are moving and I'm finding myself strapped for time, finding also that, in order to de-stress at the end of the day, I'm making random edits on pages that I usually don't edit. I certainly would like to me among your list of advisers, friends, and mentors, but I'm finding this RfArb becoming too complicated—requiring a measure of focus that I can't bring to bear on the topic right now. Could Geometry Guy, Malleus F., and RegentsPark pinch hit for me until July 1? In other words, I trust them enough that I'll go along with their proposals, if they have your blessings as well. You can always reach me by email in the event of any Arbitration-related emergency. Regards, Fowler&fowler«Talk» 17:05, 9 June 2009 (UTC)

Sure! Just as long as you are not going away forever, which would be a huge loss. I certainly support anything that de-stresses you. Good luck with you moving. Regards, —Mattisse (Talk) 17:09, 9 June 2009 (UTC)

Origin of species as a "formative" event in people's lives

Possibly not what you meant, but if it was, please revert me diff! Tim Vickers (talk) 21:40, 9 June 2009 (UTC)

Speaking of which, sorry you're finding concerns about recent directions, a pointer about the particular issues would be greatly appreciated. Thanks, dave souza, talk 22:13, 10 June 2009 (UTC)

I was sorry to see the religious issues start to overtake the scientific importance of Darwin's book. I feel as if that aspect can be discussed in articles with a wider focus. I thought this article was about the book and its publication. If you get into all that, then it seems to me that you do have to discuss Darwin's changing personal views on the issues. Regards, —Mattisse (Talk) 22:20, 10 June 2009 (UTC)

In my opinion it worked pretty well shifting the religious aspects of the book itself from the publication section (where there's now just a brief mention) to the Religious attitudes section, and if anything that's more focussed on the book now. I'm less pleased with the addition of the '50s Roman Catholic position, and the sentence on the "controversy" in the Modern influence section, but both are pretty small in proportion to the article and arose from reviewer's concerns. With a bit of discussion we could look at tightening them further, or possibly removing them but that would have to be well argued against a likely backlash. Will review thinga in the morning. . dave souza, talk 22:49, 10 June 2009 (UTC)

OK. But it looks like the references are not addressing the impact at the time, but rather are recent evaluations of the impact on a larger scale than just that publication at the time it was published.Initially, I was elated that the article seemed to be bypassing all of that. —Mattisse (Talk) 23:04, 10 June 2009 (UTC)

I have proposed compromise wording (which I kind of like actually) in response to your last comment on the talk page. I would really like to here your thoughts on it because I agree that you have a point about problems with the text as it is now. Thanks. Rusty Cashman (talk) 19:38, 12 June 2009 (UTC)

I have responded on the article talk page. Regards, —Mattisse (Talk) 01:36, 13 June 2009 (UTC)

Re: Hurricane Earl (1998)

I've replied to your comment on the review page of the article. Thanks again for reviewing it. Cheers, Cyclonebiskit (talk) 18:40, 10 June 2009 (UTC)

Please change it. Sorry! Regards, —Mattisse (Talk) 18:45, 10 June 2009 (UTC)

Getting bored

All my FACs have passed, I have nothing near ready, and probably won't until August.--Wehwalt (talk) 22:23, 10 June 2009 (UTC)

Poor you! I can work on your election article (ugh!) currently lingering at GAN if that would help. —Mattisse (Talk) 22:25, 10 June 2009 (UTC)

Sure, if you like! Thanks.--Wehwalt (talk) 22:34, 10 June 2009 (UTC)

I don't like but I will, if no one else steps up to the plate. —Mattisse (Talk) 23:06, 10 June 2009 (UTC)

Have you actually looked at it, or just judging the book by the title?--Wehwalt (talk) 04:52, 11 June 2009 (UTC)

I actually looked at it. Regards, —Mattisse (Talk) 00:15, 12 June 2009 (UTC)

Oh. Well, I got Happyme22 to take care of it. He's a Nixon fan, I gather. But once this and the 1946 article are done, I'm looking for other projects. I may go back and take care of Helen Douglas, but as a new bio of her is due out in November, I don't want to deal with that now. Am considering Matthew Boulton. Well known, fairly important, lots of source material out there, new bio out next month, neglected article. Worth doing. I still want to go back and redo Spandau Prison to complete the Speer trilogy, but am hampered by a lack of images, diagrams, that kinda thing.--Wehwalt (talk) 07:21, 12 June 2009 (UTC)

Any subject but California politics! Regards, —Mattisse (Talk) 19:24, 12 June 2009 (UTC)

Frankly, I'm sick and tired of doing most of WikiProject California (of which I'm not a member) FA work and they give me absolutely no help. And I've asked. I get no response. Once I clean up the remaining articles, I'm done with California. I'd really like to find another Speer or Wolters but they are thin on the ground.--Wehwalt (talk) 21:44, 12 June 2009 (UTC)

Why are you doing it then? What about getting Richard Nixon to FA status? Or Spandau Prison? Or any of a bunch of articles that are not FA now? What subjects are you interested in? What about some legal topics? Regards, —Mattisse (Talk) 21:49, 12 June 2009 (UTC)

I've thought about the Nixon article but don't want to step on Happyme22's toes. I don't know if I want to do a legal article, too much like work. I'm interested in almost anything, but not all articles interest me. I suspect the next project will come almost randomly, I'll pick up a book and get interested. --Wehwalt (talk) 23:09, 12 June 2009 (UTC)

I'm like you. Something has to interest me, and usually the interests appear to come randomly. Plus, like you, I don't particularly like something in my field. I have wide ranging interests, and they have become wider even, due to Misplaced Pages. —Mattisse (Talk) 23:13, 12 June 2009 (UTC)

(outdent) Exactly. It just happens. Ah, the wasted years of our lives, before Misplaced Pages!--Wehwalt (talk) 16:59, 13 June 2009 (UTC)

Reg Copyrights

I know a editor who is fairly good at handling issues related to copyright, and asked him a question. Hopefully he will get back. Regards, Nvineeth (talk) 16:34, 11 June 2009 (UTC)

OK. Regards, —Mattisse (Talk) 00:16, 12 June 2009 (UTC)

Request

Hi Mattisse, long time no-see (smile). I have a special request. On June 11th I nominated Rafael Carrión, Sr. for DYK and since it would be my 50th "DYK", and as such it would kind-of a milestone in my DYK's, I would like someone like you, who I admire, to look it over. I know it is a silly request, but a fun one at that. Take care. Tony the Marine (talk) 19:12, 12 June 2009 (UTC)

Do you have a reference that Rafael Carrión, Sr. was the founding father, as the reference after the hook doesn't state that. Regards, —Mattisse (Talk) 19:22, 12 June 2009 (UTC)

• Done, The book refers to him as the founder, but he was part of a group of founder, therefore I rehrased the hook. The statement "founding father" may confuse others. I was using it the same why that the term "founding father" is used to describe Washington, Franklin, etc. Do you think that I did the right thing? Tony the Marine (talk) 20:09, 12 June 2009 (UTC)

• But you need to reference the hook in the article that Rafael Carrión, Sr. was a founder. See DYK rules D1 Regards, —Mattisse (Talk) 20:19, 12 June 2009 (UTC)

• • O.K., now I am confused, because I did add a reference to the hook in the article to that respect. I also added another reference for good measure (smile). Tony the Marine (talk) 20:47, 12 June 2009 (UTC)

• Ok, sorry! It looks fine now. Maybe I forgot to refresh the page. My bad. Regards, —Mattisse (Talk) 20:51, 12 June 2009 (UTC)

Re: Thriller (viral video)

Thanks for the fixes to the article. I've responded on the review page. :) Pyrrhus16 08:45, 13 June 2009 (UTC)

Le Maistre Chat, ou le Chat Botté (Puss in Boots)

Wow! I am so embarassed. I cannot believe I was so negligent with the details of criteria in entering a "Puss in Boots" hook at DYK! I've since upgraded the nomination and re-entered it as Le Maistre Chat, ou le Chat Botté (Puss in Boots). Hope it meets the criteria. Thank you for spotting the original entry's deficiencies in a very timely manner! Kathyrncelestewright (talk) 17:49, 13 June 2009 (UTC)

Article looks much improved. It is easy to overlook important details in the rush to meet the time limits of DYK! Regards, —Mattisse (Talk) 18:06, 13 June 2009 (UTC)

Re: Effects of Hurricane Georges in Louisiana

I've responded to your comments on the review page. Cyclonebiskit (talk) 20:21, 13 June 2009 (UTC)

Replied on review page. Regards, —Mattisse (Talk) 20:40, 13 June 2009 (UTC)

I think I've expanded the lead enough now. Cyclonebiskit (talk) 21:17, 13 June 2009 (UTC)

Done! Regards, —Mattisse (Talk) 22:20, 13 June 2009 (UTC)

Colonel Homer

Thank you very much for your edits to the article! :) TheLeftorium 22:44, 14 June 2009 (UTC)

You are welcome. I am wondering if some of the info is necessary, like the long description of the writer's experience in the movie theater which don't seem quite the same as the Simpson plot. Regards, —Mattisse (Talk) 22:50, 14 June 2009 (UTC)

Hmm.. I guess you're right about that. I'll try to shorten it down. Are there any other information that seem unnecessary? TheLeftorium 22:52, 14 June 2009 (UTC)

I'll let you know if there are. I just removed a sentence, "Cartwright said the character designers had fun designing the musicians in the episode." -as it didn't say anything specific about how or what they enjoyed. Regards, —Mattisse (Talk) 22:59, 14 June 2009 (UTC)

OK, thanks. TheLeftorium 23:01, 14 June 2009 (UTC)

Plan

New project

I've started work on Matthew Boulton who is not a California politician, on a fast track trying to get it past FAC by 17 August, the bicentennial of his death. I've only done a couple of sections so far, but I think it should go well. I have a couple of books, have ordered one more, and a couple of news articles. Oddly, he's had very few bios written about him.--Wehwalt (talk) 17:06, 16 June 2009 (UTC)

OK. Right now I am working on On the Origin of Species. Where do you find these people? —Mattisse ([[User :

There was an article on him in World Coin News a couple of months ago, to which I am a subscriber. Then I recently noticed the bicentennial. Guaranteed TFA if I can get it to FA, I think! Don't hurry, it will take me a couple of weeks to write the article, with the limited time I can devote to it.--Wehwalt (talk) 17:45, 16 June 2009 (UTC)

What is your obsession with TFA? Just the narcissistic pleasure? Are you aiming for a record? —Mattisse (Talk) 17:58, 16 June 2009 (UTC)

I think it is all about looking for a niche here. I started off badly at TFA/R, but I've developed into a sort of arbiter of the points system.--Wehwalt (talk) 18:05, 16 June 2009 (UTC)

Must be the attorney in you. Definitely a better niche than mine. —Mattisse (Talk) 18:12, 16 June 2009 (UTC)

I wouldn't say that, you have far more people who have come to your defense than would come to mine.--Wehwalt (talk) 18:23, 16 June 2009 (UTC)

But you don't do things that need defending. Besides, I came to your defense, the one time you seemed to have needed it. —Mattisse (Talk) 18:31, 16 June 2009 (UTC)

Now, I avoid conflict. But when Jena Six was in the news, there were nasty discussions on talk page, before the other editors eventually got bored. And I withdrew from Rachel Corrie because I couldn't stand the constant bickering. Thanks for your support that time, by the way. That was a nasty RfA.--Wehwalt (talk) 18:41, 16 June 2009 (UTC)

Well, now I am using your strategy and avoiding conflict. I'm sick of it and would rather work on articles in peace. Besides, I don't have enough of a legal mind to argue successfully. —Mattisse (Talk) 18:45, 16 June 2009 (UTC)

Golos Truda GAN

Ciao Mattisse, good to hear from you again.Sorry I have taken so long to reply to your message, I am travelling with little internet access until the 20th. If it's not to much trouble to off finishing up the GA review for the Golos Truda article until next week I would be most appreciative. Thanks for your work so far. Mahalo, ] 22:50, 16 June 2009 (UTC)

That's fine. No hurry. Enjoy yourself! Regards, —Mattisse (Talk) 22:59, 16 June 2009 (UTC)

Arthur Eve GAC

Come look at the progress.--TonyTheTiger (t/c/bio/WP:CHICAGO/WP:LOTM) 14:38, 17 June 2009 (UTC)

I have added more comments. Regards, —Mattisse (Talk) 16:15, 17 June 2009 (UTC)

I have replied.--TonyTheTiger (t/c/bio/WP:CHICAGO/WP:LOTM) 19:53, 17 June 2009 (UTC)

Further guidance would be appreciated.--TonyTheTiger (t/c/bio/WP:CHICAGO/WP:LOTM) 21:03, 17 June 2009 (UTC)

I suggest that you look at other political biographies. The reviewer of GA1 suggested a couple and I suggested one in GA2. Another is Ron Paul which is more strictly political in content, but you can see how it is more that just a listing of his political activities. If you want, I can ask for a second opinion from someone like Malleus. Regards, —Mattisse (Talk) 21:36, 17 June 2009 (UTC)

Re: Cyclone Nancy

Thanks for the review, I've replied to all your comments. Cyclonebiskit (talk) 19:01, 17 June 2009 (UTC)

Ok, will look! Regards, —Mattisse (Talk) 19:15, 17 June 2009 (UTC)

You have been nominated for membership of the Established Editors Association

The Established editors association will be a kind of union of who have made substantial and enduring (and reliably sourced) contributions to the encyclopedia for a period of time (say, two years or more). The proposed articles of association are here - suggestions welcome.

If you wish to be elected, please notify me here. If you know of someone else who may be eligible, please nominate them here

Discussion is here.Peter Damian (talk) 19:10, 17 June 2009 (UTC)

DYK for Nereus (underwater vehicle)

On June 17, 2009, Did you know? was updated with a fact from the article Nereus (underwater vehicle), which you created or substantially expanded. If you know of another interesting fact from a recently created article, then please suggest it on the Did you know? talk page.

Elephant endotheliotropic herpesvirus

Thanks for the comments - I've made some amendments.

If you do have anything else to bring up, I'd be more than happy to have a go at it, but I'm going to be away until Saturday evening, so I can't promise I'll be able to do anything useful before then! Shimgray | talk | 22:15, 17 June 2009 (UTC)

I think my concerns have been addressed. Nice article. Regards, —Mattisse (Talk) 22:18, 17 June 2009 (UTC)

Thanks! Shimgray | talk | 22:33, 17 June 2009 (UTC)

Arthur Eve

Just a quick note; if you feel at any point that you'd prefer to back away from the Arthur Eve GA review then I'd be quite happy to take it over from you, or perhaps one of your advisors? In any event don't let it stress you. :-) --Malleus Fatuorum 23:19, 17 June 2009 (UTC)

Actually, I would like that. I want to see a good way of handling these situations and you could model that for me. I do feel unsure about how to proceed. Regards, —Mattisse (Talk) 23:32, 17 June 2009 (UTC)

If you want me take over the review then just post a note saying so on the review page and I'll take it from there. I'm certain that you'd do the same for me if the situation was reversed. --Malleus Fatuorum 23:48, 17 June 2009 (UTC)

I'm getting about ready to close this review now Mattisse; just a couple of issues outstanding. Perhaps you'd like to take a look through my summary of what I think remains to be done, and if you think there's anything else maybe add it? Naturally I'll take any and all flak, but your opinion on the article now, either here or in the article's review page would be appreciated, at least by me. --Malleus Fatuorum 22:23, 19 June 2009 (UTC)

It is certainly much improved and I agree with your judgment. (It still seems strange that his birth place is unknown.) Thank you so much for taking this review over! Regards, —Mattisse (Talk) 23:02, 19 June 2009 (UTC)

That does seem strange, I agree, but public figures are often less than open about certain aspects of their private lives. I've got no doubt that Eve's place of birth coukd be established pretty easily, but unless we can provide a citation to a reliable source which has taken the trouble to do the investigation then it's just OR, not allowed by the rules of engagement here on wikipedia, as you know. And as this article is a BLP we need to be doubly careful. Anyway, thanks for taking another look through it; if you'd still had major reservations I would have failed the article. --Malleus Fatuorum 23:16, 19 June 2009 (UTC)

Thank you. I appreciate the very thorough job you did! Regards, —Mattisse (Talk) 23:31, 19 June 2009 (UTC)

My last thought, and probably a presumptious one, so forgive me. It seems to me Mattisse that you've succeeded with this review in doing exactly what ArbCom, if they have any sense at all, ought to be requiring of you. I hope they were watching. :-) --Malleus Fatuorum 23:44, 19 June 2009 (UTC)

Hi

Hi, sorry to trouble you Mattisse. I don't believe that we have interacted before but have noticed your name about wikipedia. I have heard (or read) that you are particularly skilled at copy editing on articles. I am wondering if you would be able to perhaps help out at the benzodiazepine article? I don't know who else is particularly skilled in this area on wikipedia but if you can't help me out perhaps you could point me to other people who could help out? Best regards. :)--Literaturegeek | T@1k? 22:35, 18 June 2009 (UTC)

Some quick background, issues with references and most other issues have been resolved, copy editing has been done by several editors but reviewers keep finding several problems with the article and no matter how hard I or others try there is always "something" which remains to be done, so really think we need a skilled copyeditor to give the final nudge to FA status. :)--Literaturegeek | T@1k? 22:39, 18 June 2009 (UTC)

I can go through it strictly as a copy editor, not addressing content or referencing. Can't guarantee success though. Regards, —Mattisse (Talk) 22:53, 18 June 2009 (UTC)

That is just what I need Matissa! I would really appreciate it. Content has already been debated and resolved pretty much, newer secondary sources, elimination of primary sources etc, all done. :) Thank you. :)--Literaturegeek | T@1k? 23:26, 18 June 2009 (UTC)

I will continue tomorrow, as I am too tired tonight. Regards, —Mattisse (Talk) 01:07, 19 June 2009 (UTC)

Thanks. :) Impressive so far Mattisse. :) It is amazing how much redundancy and needed copyediting is easily missed. One comment, you put a comma before the word "and". Is that American thing? I was always taught not to do that when in school in UK, just curious.--Literaturegeek | T@1k? 17:42, 19 June 2009 (UTC)

I usually don't put a comma before the last "and". There was one sentence where I added it in that situation because the context seemed possibly a little confusing, but its a judgement call so remove it if you think it is unneeded. It's an interesting article, a thorough explanation of the drug. I enjoyed reading it! Regards, —Mattisse (Talk) 17:49, 19 June 2009 (UTC)

Thank you

Hi Mattisse, thank you for your guidance and understanding with the Ramprasad Sen article, and for helping make Misplaced Pages a positive experience! Regards, Priyanath  23:16, 18 June 2009 (UTC)

You are very welcome, as I believe your article deserves recognition. Regards, —Mattisse (Talk) 01:08, 19 June 2009 (UTC)

Thanks for the GAR, I feel that the article has improved since & I learnt quite a few things from the GAR. Thank you. --Nvineeth (talk) 06:58, 19 June 2009 (UTC)

Chitradurga Fort

Hi!Mattisse,

Since you gave me a tutorial about 18 months back on how to sign, I have made progress in posting articles on Misplaced Pages. My earliest one was on Kadamba tree which you had started long back. After that you have reviewed a number of my articles on DYK talkpage. I have now prepared an expanded version of the stub article Chitradurga Fort in my sand box page User:Nvvchar/sandbox, which you had started quite some time back. I have now expanded it by more than five times. I thought it proper to request you nominate this article (if you find it in order) on DYK with a suitable Hook. I will transfer it to the main article after hearing from you. Thank you.--Nvvchar (talk) 08:05, 19 June 2009 (UTC)

I am unsure how to move the article out of your user space to replace the old article with the same title. If you just pasted it over, you would lose all of your edit history for the article. Have you thought of a way to do that? I would be happy to co-nominate it and give it a hook. —Mattisse (Talk) 15:04, 19 June 2009 (UTC)

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