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South-Africa

Hi, in answer to your post on my talk page. Some tips:

1. WP is an English language resource so try and keep posts in English even though we both speak another language.
2. Please sign your posts on any talk page (see Misplaced Pages:Signatures for help and Misplaced Pages:Talk page guidelines for more guidelines.
3. Try and combine several changes into one edit, by using the preview option. If you make many small changes it makes it hard to follow the page history on the history tab. See Help:Show preview.
4. I have reverted your edits to the banners on Talk:Angolan War of Independence, because you removed one banner without explanation

Welcome and happy editing. — Deon Steyn (talk) 07:50, 19 February 2009 (UTC)

Image copyright problem with File:ThreeMileIsland seen from bridge.jpg

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Abuse report

Abuse reports are for long term vandals, those vandals with over 6 blocks. Otherwise, you should report vandals to WP:AIV.--Terrillja _talk 20:23, 13 May 2009 (UTC)

Possibly unfree File:WestlandWizzard 1.jpg

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Possibly unfree File:WestlandWizzard 2.jpg

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Possibly unfree File:WestlandWizzard Diagram.jpg

A file that you uploaded or altered, File:WestlandWizzard Diagram.jpg, has been listed at Misplaced Pages:Possibly unfree files because its copyright status is unclear or disputed. If the file's copyright status cannot be verified, it may be deleted. You may find more information on the file description page. You are welcome to add comments to its entry at the discussion if you are interested in it not being deleted. Thank you. .Nigel Ish (talk) 18:20, 19 May 2009 (UTC)

Hi Nigel. The reason I've listed these Westland Wizzard images as in the Public Domain, is because Ive looked at the Flight International copyright history, at this webpage: Flight international 727-100. There I've seen that Flight International first started to publish their work in 1984 under copyright. The images I've used were published long before that date, so I've assumed they were in the Public Domain. I didn't just upload them, I really thought they are in the public domain. I've also looked at this page: Copyright Term and the Public Domain. Thanks for your time! Regards Slapsnot (talk) 09:53, 24 May 2009 (UTC)

That refers to United States copyright - Flight was first publishedin the UK and is therefore subject to British copyright - the tag you added is only appropriate if it was first published in the US.Nigel Ish (talk) 09:59, 24 May 2009 (UTC)

I understand. What do you suggest I should do? Slapsnot (talk) 10:51, 24 May 2009 (UTC)

Specify area

Beste Mr Pieterse, dankie vir jou waardevolle wikipedia bydraes. Ek verskil egter persoonlik dat Victoria West gespesifeer moet word as Victoria West, Northern Cape. Na die beste van my wete is daar slegs een Victoria West, en sou name soos Knysna dan ook aangepas moet word, na Knysna, Western Cape. Victoria West sonder die beskrywer dui, soos ek dit sien, aan dat die naam uniek is. Ook mag sodanige skuif stadiger verwysingskakels veroorsaak via die ou naam. Met Loxton stem ek egter saam, weens die gelyknamiges. Mag ek ook vra dat jy jou gebruikernaam aanpas, want ek vind dit onaangenaam. Ook so die verwysing na BS op jou voorblad, onnodig plat na my mening. JMK (talk) 21:48, 24 May 2009 (UTC)

Middag JMK. Eks jammer oor die misverstand. Ek het gesien dat ander dorpe word so aangepas sodat mens kan sien aan watter provinsie behoort die dorp. Ek het dit ook snaaks gevind om artikels te vernoem, byvoorbeeld vanaf X na X, Northern Cape. Ek het dit nie gedoen om moeilikheid te maak nie, ek het maar gedink dis hoe dit gedoen moet word. Ek sal dit in vervolg slegs doen indien 'n dorp op twee plekke voorkom. Ek is in die proses om my gebruikers naam te verander. Ek wou hom al vroeër verander het, maar my aanvraag was toe geweier, want my edits was nog te min. Ek het ook my oppervlakkige userboxes verwyder. Dankie vir die raad, ek het nog nie so na dit gekyk nie. Groete Slapsnot (talk) 13:07, 25 May 2009 (UTC)

Dis gaaf! Wat die plekname betref, ek het die wikipedia beleid opgespoor. Geographic naming conventions meld dat: South Africa, Only disambiguate towns where necessary; use placename, province where this is unambiguous. Die beleid verskil egter plek tot plek. JMK (talk) 21:22, 26 May 2009 (UTC)

Changing username

Hi AD. I want too rename my user account, but has a few questions. I've looked at what the Change username page say, but I'm still not sure about everything. In the Effects of a username change section I don't understand the following points:

• This change will not affect signatures you have already left on talk pages, or other places where you signed your username with ~~~~. Those pages will continue to display your signature (including the link to your old username) unless edited manually.
• Be aware: Once you have been renamed, your old account will no longer exist and may potentially be recreated by a third party. This is true even if your old account pages have been redirected towards your new account. To guard against impersonation, you may wish to recreate the old account yourself.

Regarding the first point, when my username is changed, will the link to the old username be a redirect to my new username? Like on the talkpages, will that link point somehow to my new username? The last point, am I allowed to recreate my old username and add only a redirect in his heading to my new username? Thank you! Regards Slapsnot (talk) 13:40, 25 May 2009 (UTC)

Sorry for cutting in, but yes, you may recreate the old account and set up the user and usertalk pages to redirect to the new account. It is often a good idea to do this, to avoid potential impersonation. Useight (talk) 21:36, 25 May 2009 (UTC)

Hi Useight. Thanks for helping me on the issue! Regards Slapsnot (talk) 15:10, 26 May 2009 (UTC)

Thanks

Thanks for the Warm Welcome Slapsnot! I hope someday I become as accomplished a wiki user as you are. Best Regards,

SilenceDoogood (talk) 10:50, 7 June 2009 (UTC)

Warning re AF 447?

Hi. I was looking at an IP editor's Talk page for another, not-connected-with-planes reason and saw this from you, warning them for "adding commentary and your personal analysis". Please forgive me for butting in and/or missing the point, but I can only find the one edit on AF447 from this user, this one where they add the "current event" tag, which seemed quite a good idea. So, either I've got it wrong, or you might perhaps need to revise this warning, or something. Please note that since I spend about 95% of my time on Misplaced Pages confused about one thing or another I am quite probably wrong here - please feel free to put me right on this. Thanks and best wishes DBaK (talk) 08:31, 9 June 2009 (UTC)

Hi DBak. It was my mistake, I've got confused. Take a look at this link. To me it looked like 92.4.112.144 added the fact, but he or she didn't. I really get irritated with Boeing and Airbus supporters who constantly argue about which plane is the best, so I've reacted out of anger. I've already removed the warning and said I'm sorry. I think you would have noticed, because you also posted the user a message. Just like you I also spend most of my time on Misplaced Pages, and I really appreciate the fact that you've shown me my error. This way we can work together to make Misplaced Pages even more successful! Regards LouriePieterse (talk) 16:29, 9 June 2009 (UTC)

Cool - you are very welcome, and thank you very much for dealing with it so gracefully. I do see what you mean about how to make this error, so I will also be trying to avoid it myself in future! Thanks and best wishes DBaK (talk) 07:29, 10 June 2009 (UTC) (PS Yes, it was my sad obsession with the spelling of Middlesbrough that triggered this OCD-ish episode!)

Lucca Games

Hi this morning I added the page Lucca Games but now I noticed there's a problem with a conflict of interest. I published the same page on Italian WIKI without any problem....what should I do???

Thanks... Bosinic (talk) 10:00, 10 June 2009 (UTC)

Hi Bosinic. A conflict of interest refers to: editing involves contributing to Misplaced Pages in order to promote your own interests or those of other individuals, companies, or groups. Where advancing outside interests is more important to an editor than advancing the aims of Misplaced Pages, that editor stands in a conflict of interest. Misplaced Pages editors try to edit with a neutral point of view, so it is advised to rewrite your article to suite these guidelines. I also advise you to source all your facts. I hope this helps you, just ask if you have another question. Regards LouriePieterse (talk) 11:00, 10 June 2009 (UTC)

re Papillary eccrine adenoma

I replied on my talk page. ---kilbad (talk) 18:46, 10 June 2009 (UTC)

Misplaced Pages:Articles for deletion/KISN (Portland)

Please provide a deletion rationale at the subject AfD. Thanks. KuyaBriBri 18:46, 10 June 2009 (UTC)

CSD nominations

Please read WP:CSD carefully; many of your nominations are either using the wrong category or are flat-out not CSD candidates. Thanks!  Frank  |  talk  19:34, 10 June 2009 (UTC)

Misuse of G1

Hi, please remember that CSD G1 only applies to pages which are complete gibberish, for example "gfsfsdf". Please read this article and learn some other criteria. Be aware that warning good faith users about pages which they put time and effort into as being nonsense can be BITEy. Cheers - Kingpin (talk) 19:35, 10 June 2009 (UTC)

Hi Kingpin. Sorry, Ill look into it. Sometimes I find it difficult to place the article, and then I use G1. It wont happen again. Thanks for showing me my error! Regards LouriePieterse (talk) 19:39, 10 June 2009 (UTC)

If you can't "place the article", that may be an indication it's not a candidate for CSD at all.  Frank  |  talk  19:40, 10 June 2009 (UTC)

No problem. But if you can't find a critera for speedy deletion which fits a page, then don't nominate it, not every new page needs to be speedied :). Don't let me put you off working in CSD, it's an area which could use more users - Kingpin (talk) 19:42, 10 June 2009 (UTC)

Okay Kingpin. I'm sorry, I am just very tired. When I am tired I usually get hasty and make stupid mistakes. I try to make a difference at Misplaced Pages, I really work very hard to do all I can. Please forgive me if I sometimes make mistakes. Luckily I learn from them. Thanks for helping me on this polite manner, I really appreciate it! LouriePieterse (talk) 19:51, 10 June 2009 (UTC)

Mooger Fooger

Why did you start an AfD when a speedy delete tag was placed on this article. BigDunc 19:36, 10 June 2009 (UTC)

Hi BD. My internet connection is pretty slow. When I viewed the page the speedy tag weren't there. I wasn't sure if I should add a speedy or AfD tag. So I then added the AfD tag because I sometimes know the article doesn't belong on Misplaced Pages, but I don't know how to place it. Regards LouriePieterse (talk) 19:45, 10 June 2009 (UTC)

I have asked an admin for clarification on what to do in a situation like this, the use of the show preview button might have solved this. What I would normally do is wait and see if the speedy tag is removed/declined before starting Prod or AfD thanks. BigDunc 19:49, 10 June 2009 (UTC)

Okay, thanks for letting me know. If I had seen the speedy tag I wouldn't have placed the AfD tag. See my above messages to Kingpin. Today just isn't my day. Sorry, this wont happen again. Regards LouriePieterse (talk) 19:56, 10 June 2009 (UTC)

Don't worry about it maybe just take a break and come back a bit fresher happy editing. BigDunc 20:04, 10 June 2009 (UTC)

Parque Ambue Ari

You did not provide a rationale for your nomination of Parque Ambue Ari at Misplaced Pages:Articles for deletion/Parque Ambue Ari.  Frank  |  talk  19:42, 10 June 2009 (UTC)

Ive added my rationale just now...LouriePieterse (talk) 20:00, 10 June 2009 (UTC)

DPOAE

Dear Lourie,

Distortion Product Oto Acoustic Emission shloud be defined because this term is used in WP several times and that is a very interesting tool to test the hearing of animals or neonates.

May be my definition was not very clear ?

Yours,

Dr Bernard Auriol

http://auriol.free.fr/Psychosonique.htm —Preceding unsigned comment added by Auriol (talk • contribs) 20:22, 13 June 2009 (UTC)

Dear Bernard. I understand what you mean, and it was an excellent idea of you too create the page. Unfortunately the page you created didn't comply to the Misplaced Pages guidelines. You can create the page again, or you can even ask one of the administrators to send you a copy of the deleted article. Refer to the posts on you talk page for more information. Iam sorry if this caused any mayor problems. Kind regards, LouriePieterse (talk) 20:32, 13 June 2009 (UTC)

Layout and reference problems on new pages

Hi Kingpin. I've got a few questions, you look like a friendly Wikipedian, so please help me! I frequently patrol the New Pages and Recent changes, and regularly come across the following: A user created a new page with a total legitimate topic, a topic which belongs on Misplaced Pages, but the layout of the article is terrible and none of the facts are referenced. What should I do? Kind regards, LouriePieterse (talk) 08:46, 14 June 2009 (UTC)

Well firstly you need to find out if all the "facts" are actually true. After finding sources (these must be reliable, and independent of the topic (newspapers and similar are normally best)), the way to reference them is the place the Url of the source (or you can use the cite template, try enabling refTools (read more about them here) in "my preferences > gadgets > refTools", which makes adding cites easy). If you are just adding the url, then you can use a ref, add this by placing the text <ref>url of source here</ref> after the piece of text you want to reference. Don't forget to create a new section titled "References" with the content of that section being "{{reflist}}".
Another way you can cleanup a page is by splitting it into sections (there is a page which explains what order sections should be in), often the creator will have added external links to the bottom without a section title etc.
Adding categories is a good way to make the page more accessible, and look nicer. If you are not sure which categories to add, go to a page on a similar subject and copy and paste the ones you think are appropriate. Add a category by adding ] to the bottom of the page.
While all of that is very useful, I can't explain everything on your talk page, but the best place to look for more is the Manual of Style. Cheers - Kingpin (talk) 07:49, 15 June 2009 (UTC)

Bernard Kangro

I've declined the speedy on this page, as this person appears to be a notable poet. A Google Scholar search turns up quite a bit about him. For example, see this JSTOR extract, . If you have any questions, please let me know. TNXMan 14:39, 14 June 2009 (UTC)

Thank you TNXMan. Ill look into it in the future. Regards, LouriePieterse (talk) 14:50, 14 June 2009 (UTC)

Barnstar

Thank you very much! I really appreciate it! :) Geologik (talk) 17:04, 14 June 2009 (UTC)

Removed speedy deletion tag: Adil Thathaal

Hello LouriePieterse, and thanks for your work patrolling new changes. I am just informing you that I removed the speedy deletion tag from Adil Thathaal- because: the article makes a credible assertion of notability, sufficient to pass A7. Please review the criteria for speedy deletion before tagging further pages. If you have any questions, please let me know. NW (Talk) 18:13, 14 June 2009 (UTC)

Hi NW. I only undid the user's action where he removed the tag. According to the Misplaced Pages guidelines the author is not allow to remove this banner. Tim Ross placed the tag, he has over 6000 edits, so I believed that he made the correct decision. Kind regards, LouriePieterse (talk) 18:25, 14 June 2009 (UTC)

Removed speedy deletion tag: Thandiakkal

Hello LouriePieterse, and thanks for your work patrolling new changes. I am just informing you that I removed the speedy deletion tag from Thandiakkal- because: the article makes a credible assertion of notability, sufficient to pass A7. Please review the criteria for speedy deletion before tagging further pages. If you have any questions, please let me know. NW (Talk) 19:26, 14 June 2009 (UTC)

re: GFA

Thanks for the award Lourie :). Appreciated - Kingpin (talk) 08:15, 16 June 2009 (UTC)

Four Horsemen of the Apocalypse

It is obvious that you haven't read Paul Humphries' book that I used as the source of the table and the interpretation in the section Riders identified as nations, so please don't spoil the table. When you cite a source, don't make your own interpretations or "corrections". 130.230.31.119 (talk) 23:41, 16 June 2009 (UTC)

First of all, when you point out edits, don't include intermediate revisions. I've made four edits to the article, of which only one changed facts in the table. I only made two changes; namely removing the Oligarchy?? which just stood there, and I replaced the red with green. There are a few reasons why I did it. Firstly because the section just above the table's section is called Pale (green) Horse. In that particular section there is also referred quite often to the pale green horse. One of the references of the article also handles about the pale green horse. Please be kind. One not making trouble, I am just an average Wikipedian. Kind regards, LouriePieterse (talk) 11:52, 17 June 2009 (UTC)

I understand that you struggle to improve the article, but there is a difference between changing one accurate quotation and improving article by adding some other information. The two question marks and "Red" are in the cited table in the book. They are not typographical errors. The table represents Humphries' interpretation in very compact form. It is not a big part of the article, but it was accurate when I copied it from the book as a quotation. I suggest that you seek for some other way (than changing contents of that table) to improve the article. 130.230.31.119 (talk) 15:14, 17 June 2009 (UTC)

This source states that the rider is green. I don't have the book so I can't see the other. And it would seem strange to have two red horsemen no? Maybe you're getting muddled with the second horse? - Kingpin (talk) 14:11, 20 June 2009 (UTC)

Altered Speedy Deletion rationale: Pituophis melanoleucus mugitus

Hello LouriePieterse, and thanks for your work patrolling new changes. I am just informing you that I have deleted a page you tagged (Pituophis melanoleucus mugitus) under a different criteria, because the one you provided was inappropriate or incorrect. CSD criteria are narrow and specific, and the process is more effective if the correct deletion rationale is supplied. Consider reviewing the criteria for speedy deletion. If you have any queries, please let me know. Thanks again! SoWhy 13:07, 17 June 2009 (UTC)

Your rollback request

Hello LouriePieterse, I have granted your account rollback in accordance with your request. Please remember that rollback is for reverting vandalism/spam, and that misuse of the tool, either by revert-warring with other users, or simply reverting edits you disagree with, can lead to it being removed. For practice, you may wish to see Misplaced Pages:New admin school/Rollback. Good luck. Acalamari 17:14, 19 June 2009 (UTC)

Hi Alcalamari. Thanks, I would use it wisely! King regards, LouriePieterse (talk) 17:22, 19 June 2009 (UTC)

HotCat

does not always provide useful suggestions. The categories Computing, Software, Application Software, and Operating Systems are all tree-tops, the only articles in those categories are the few appropriate to the entire category. Thanks, 69.106.232.171 (talk) 14:59, 20 June 2009 (UTC)

Okay, I didn't know that. I'll try to avoid it in the future. Thanks! Kind regards, LouriePieterse (talk) 16:51, 20 June 2009 (UTC)

ACC Tool

Someone, probably you, requested access to the account creation tool. For security purposes could you please confirm that it was you who made the request so we can approve you, thanks. Prodego 05:21, 21 June 2009 (UTC)

Hi Prodego. Yes, I have requested permission for this tool. Thanks! King regards, LouriePieterse (talk) 08:19, 21 June 2009 (UTC)

What happend of this conversation Prodego? I don't want to tell you to hurry up or anything, I am just wondering. Kind regards, LouriePieterse (talk) 16:44, 23 June 2009 (UTC)

I must have missed your response when the section below was created, done now. Prodego 16:47, 23 June 2009 (UTC)

Thank you for applying to access the account creation tool. I have approved your request. You may now access the tool here. Before you do so, please read the tool's guide to familiarize yourself with the process. You may also want to join #wikipedia-en-accounts on irc and the mailing list. Keep in mind that the ACC tool is a powerful program, and misuse may result in your access being suspended by a tool administrator. Don't hesitate to get in touch with me if you have any questions. Thank you for participating in the account creation process. Prodego 16:49, 23 June 2009 (UTC)

Thanks for approving my request. I won't do any stupid things. I am currently busy reading the guide, and if I have any questions I will ask you. I really appreciate the fact that you are willing to help me if I have questions. Kind regards, LouriePieterse (talk) 16:52, 23 June 2009 (UTC)

Joining accounts in different languages of wikipedia

Can I join my account in russian and english wikipedia ?? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 89.31.113.54 (talk) 23:50, 22 June 2009 (UTC)

Hi IP user, unfortunately not. But one thing you can do is to use you unified account over all the Wiki's. I would suggest to use your account with the most edits at the other Wiki's as well. Please take a look at the following link for more information. Kind regards, LouriePieterse (talk) 16:41, 23 June 2009 (UTC)

Slightly excessive tagging

The next time you WP:TAGBOMB an article like you did with Missa Solemnis (Bruckner), please leave an explanation on the talk page so people can tell you actually read the article and weren't just putting down every random tag that popped into your head (not everyone will assume good faith, e.g., assume that you did read the article before tagging it). If you're not sure what to say on the talk page to explain the tags, you can consult WP:RESPTAG for guidance; that page covers many tags.

Also, I noticed that you did the tagbombing with the Friendly script. May I remind you of the warning: "Be advised that even when using these scripts, you take full responsibility for any action done using them. You must understand the Misplaced Pages policies and use this tool within that policy, or risk being blocked for its misuse." Incarnatus (talk) 21:55, 23 June 2009 (UTC)

Hi Incarnatus. Ive added the correct tags to the article. The following tags were removed from my last edit — the one were I've added the tags:

1. Clean up
2. Primary sources
3. Copyedit
4. Expand

I am going to go trough each of these points. Looking at number one, Clean up is the following: Cleanup issues that this project covers may include wikification, spelling, grammar, tone, and sourcing. It is a tag that indicates the article should have attention on various fields, not just a certain field. I can't see why James removed the tag. When one looks at the revision where I've added the tag, it is clear that the article needs clean up. Please refer to the Misplaced Pages:Manual of Style for more information.

Secondly, the primary sources tag: A primary source is a document or person providing direct evidence of a certain state of affairs; in other words, a source very close to the situation you are writing about. There is a lot of sources, but I can't verify one of them via the internet. Take a look at this source and this source. I've found them with Google and it can be useful as a references. Please refer to the Misplaced Pages:Use of primary sources in Misplaced Pages and Misplaced Pages:Reliable sources for more information.

Thirdly the copy editing: Copy editing is the work that an editor does to improve the formatting, style, and accuracy (but not content) of a manuscript. Copy refers to written or typewritten text for typesetting, printing, or publication. The article did need copy editing, such as:

• Titles of works of art, literature, etc., should be italicized.
• Spelling such as premiered that should be premièred.

Please refer to the Misplaced Pages:How to copy-edit for more information.

Last, the expand tag. There is a major difference between expand and expert. Anyone can expand an article, but only a expert on the particular field can make the important decisions regarding what information is important, what information is lacking, ect. I am NOT taking you on in any manner, I am someone who tries to be as friendly as possible. All I am saying is, please dont accuse me of something I did not do. One thing to remember is, if you assume good faith, then the other party would do the same. Kind regards, LouriePieterse (talk) 16:44, 24 June 2009 (UTC)

rfa

Ive responded on your rfa. Please understand that im just trying to give you constructive feedback. I think you will one day make a great admin. keep it up! :) Ottawa4ever (talk) 22:27, 23 June 2009 (UTC)

Hi. I really appreciate it for posting on my talk page. Thank you very much for responding to my RfA. I have no problem with your feedback, I actually take it very positively. The RfA is quite a disappointment to me. Some users don't see that one learns from your mistakes, such as my history with the Speedy tags. I did make the mistake, but from that day I didn't make it again. My main idea is to assume good faith, I just wish some others would also be more gentle. But I'll survive it, and Ill just try even harder. King regards, LouriePieterse (talk) 14:57, 24 June 2009 (UTC)

Hullo again Lourie, sorry about the way which the RfA seems to be going. I myself just had my own RfA fail, so I know how you feel. Hopefully you won't let any of the opposes put you off, and will return (presuming it fails) at a later date, with more experience. If you keep going the way you are at the moment I can guarantee you will become a valuable asset to Misplaced Pages. I also thought I should let you know that you can withdraw your self-nomination, should you feel inclined to (see how to withdraw at Misplaced Pages:Guide_to_requests_for_adminship#Closure). Happy editing - Kingpin (talk) 16:36, 24 June 2009 (UTC)

Hi Kingpin. Yes, I feel sad, but I am already busy editing again so I feel happy again! LOL! I will certainly try again in two months time or more. I am not going to close the RfA, one should sometimes face the facts. I can only learn from this experience, and I am planning to make the most of it. One should just stand strong against criticism. Thanks for posting me message. Kind regards, LouriePieterse (talk) 16:50, 24 June 2009 (UTC)

Db-t3

Thank you for your efforts to clean up Misplaced Pages. However, to help make the process go more smoothly, I encourage you to review the criteria for speedy deletion carefully. Many of the templates you marked with {{db-t3}} do not meet the specific requirements for that template (specifically, that there be another existing template that can be used for the same purpose). In some cases, another template such as {{db-test}} or {{deprecated}} would have been more appropriate. --R'n'B (call me Russ) 16:18, 24 June 2009 (UTC)

Hi Russ. I've added that tag because there is only two tags for templates. Can I add an article tag to a template? LouriePieterse (talk) 16:33, 24 June 2009 (UTC)