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I have created a unified login for different accounts such as en.wikipedia.org, en.wiktionary.org, and meta.wikimedia.org After log in, I show up as having a user page on some accounts (blue), but not others (red). Is there a way to create one user page that will be active for all accounts? Or should I create each one separately? (Seems like a waste of space.)] (]) 03:15, 25 June 2009 (UTC)

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    June 22

    gif "movie" image malfs on Mozilla

    The moving image Young.gif works o.k. on Safari and also on IE Explorer, but something is making it show a large black rectangle as the last image in the series, making what would otherwise look like an unending process seem to be interrupted.

    I will see whether editing the image carefully on my Mac will make any improvement. I do not have the best software, however. 152.17.53.105 (talk) 00:53, 22 June 2009 (UTC)

    File:Young.gif looks fine in my Mozilla Firefox 3.0.11. PrimeHunter (talk) 01:11, 22 June 2009 (UTC)
    The file also displays fine for me in Mozilla 3.0.11 (no black block breaking the cycle). Are you using an older version - or perhaps have an add-on that's interfering? --- Barek (talkcontribs) - 01:17, 22 June 2009 (UTC)

    Phantom Lapboard

    I an the CEO of Phantom Entertainment, which makes the Phantom Lapboard. Every time I try to update the page a bot removes all my edits. Many new items need to be written and the website url is wrong. How can I change this?

    John Landino <blanked> Phei.comeback (talk) 01:34, 22 June 2009 (UTC)

    For the record, this user emailed me asking a similar question after I posted {{uw-coi}} on his userpage. I responded to that email with advice, the relevant portion of which is below:
    Hi John. The best thing to do when you have a conflict of interest with regards to a topic you wish to edit, is to add the information you would want to add to the article, to the article's talk page (in this case, that would be here). On that page, add the information that you would like added to the article, and cite it - to reliable, third-party sources wherever possible. When you have done this, other editors who do not have a conflict will be able to add the information in a neutral, encyclopedic manner. If you feel able to add the information to the article yourself in a neutral manner and keeping the right tone, feel free to go ahead.
    If you have any further questions or need help, feel free to contact me, either by email or on my talk page.
    Did I cover everything? Dreaded Walrus 02:06, 22 June 2009 (UTC)
    Also see Misplaced Pages:FAQ/Organizations. --Teratornis (talk) 03:15, 22 June 2009 (UTC)
    And WP:Spam. – ukexpat (talk) 15:01, 22 June 2009 (UTC)

    (top)

    What does (top) in front of a contribution mean? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Shraktu (talkcontribs) 07:02, 22 June 2009 (UTC)

    (top) stands for Topmost. If a contribution is marked as top, it means that that contribution is the current version of the article. In other words: its the last contribution to that article. Excirial 07:09, 22 June 2009 (UTC)

    Large Appearances

    Resolved

    I see everything, text, images... very large, Is this just me or is it something new from the Misplaced Pages? ---Scarce |||| You shouldn't have buried me, I'm not dead--- 07:55, 22 June 2009 (UTC)

    Images almost seemed blurred also ---Scarce |||| You shouldn't have buried me, I'm not dead--- 08:00, 22 June 2009 (UTC)
    There has been no change that i am aware of - Did you by any chance change your monitor's resolution? Or did you accidentally zoom in your browser (Ctrl + Mousewheel)? Excirial 08:02, 22 June 2009 (UTC)
    Uh! I'm such a fool! I've been scrolling a lot and I've been resting my hand on the left side if keyboard. I had no idea you can zoom in like that. Awesome! You have made my day! Gosh you're wise, You're WikiYoda! I'm adding you to my favorites list! ---Scarce |||| You shouldn't have buried me, I'm not dead--- 09:06, 22 June 2009 (UTC)
    Glad to help ;) Excirial 09:51, 22 June 2009 (UTC)

    The "user contributions" link

    In the toolbox isn't there anymore. Well, it is for a moment when I go to a user page, then it disappears. I don't see anything in the recent changes of MediaWiki pages, so what's going on? ÷seresin 08:48, 22 June 2009 (UTC)

    If it's there, then disappears, then it's being removed by javascript. Perhaps one of your custom scripts is interacting badly with a sitewide change. Try selectively disabling them to find the culprit. Algebraist 09:45, 22 June 2009 (UTC)

    Monobook

    Per:Monobook.js. User:TheDJ/Qui. The script their isn't known to be bad or "malicious" is it? ---Scarce |||| You shouldn't have buried me, I'm not dead--- 09:33, 22 June 2009 (UTC)

    Its a fine script - i have been using it for quite some time with no side effects. Also, a short evaluation of the script source reveals nothing potentionally harmful. Excirial 09:39, 22 June 2009 (UTC)

    Sub pages allowed in the user space.

    Is there a policy about specifically what is allowed in user subpages. I have found the policy on user pages and the policy on subpages but I am not clear about user subs. I saw a user page that was never intended to be of use to the project. It is the users schedule for a trip. Should I nom for deletion? Should I just leave it alone? Should I post a link here for others to look at? Thanks.--Adam in MO Talk 10:16, 22 June 2009 (UTC)

    In this case we have the WP:NOTWEBHOST policy - Pages that are not related to[REDACTED] (Such as social networks, communication, blogs, and so on) should indeed be tagged for removal. This is actually partly covered under WP:UP#NOT. I would suggest placing a PROD on the page first, as WP:NOT is not a valid reason for a CSD tag. Excirial 10:22, 22 June 2009 (UTC)
    PROD is only for mainspace articles. Userspace pages can be nominated at Misplaced Pages:Miscellany for deletion if there is no valid reason for a CSD tag. You can try contacting the user first and give them a link to Misplaced Pages:User page. See Misplaced Pages:User page#Deleting user pages and subpages. PrimeHunter (talk) 11:16, 22 June 2009 (UTC)
    O yes... we were talking about a user page - been a while since i patrolled those. Thanks for catching that prime :). Excirial 11:42, 22 June 2009 (UTC)
    WP:User page applies to all pages in the user namespace, including subpages. hmwithτ 16:51, 22 June 2009 (UTC)

    Wikify table

    Could someone please wikify this table? I am very poor at wikimarkup!! Thanks a lot. --Siddhant (talk) 10:19, 22 June 2009 (UTC)

    Admin

    Is there anyway I can get a free admin coach? Looks like the coaches in the admin coaching program are all taken ---Scarce |||| You shouldn't have buried me, I'm not dead--- 11:51, 22 June 2009 (UTC)

    The best bet is to sign up at WP:ADMINCOACH and wait for a position to come available. The other option is to approach an admin willing to admin coach directly, but this is not always possible. Best, PeterSymonds (talk) 11:55, 22 June 2009 (UTC)
    Hmmm... the list of admin requests is kind of mess, meaning it probably isn't updated, so I'm sure I'll never get one there! I guess I might just have to post an ad on my user page ---Scarce |||| You shouldn't have buried me, I'm not dead--- 12:07, 22 June 2009 (UTC)

    How do I find the thesaurus on Misplaced Pages?

    How do I find the thesaurus on Misplaced Pages? —Preceding unsigned comment added by LLane18 (talkcontribs) 12:41, 22 June 2009 (UTC)

    Reverting without seeking consensus

    I'm having an issue in the European Union article. I've created a new map, which I think is better than the previous one and I've explained my reasons in the talk page. However, a group of editors keep undoing my changes without making any comments. I know we are supposed to work through consensus, but what can I do if the other editors are not bothered to discuss the issue or even to put an edit summary? Is it ok to keep reverting them as if it was vandalism? (I've already reverted three times today) Any suggestions? Thanks, Laurent (talk) 13:47, 22 June 2009 (UTC)

    This sounds more like a content dispute. If the editor(s) refuse to discuss the issue on the talk page, you may want to request a third opinion. Also, did you try dropping a note on their talk page? If they won't discuss the issue, then I don't see why they should complain. TNXMan 13:57, 22 June 2009 (UTC)

    Unsure of article placement?

    > I am trying to create an article about the National Barbecue > Association but I am not sure which sub-category to place it under... > I would like to place it under the sub-topic "Non-Profits" but am not > sure how to accomplish that. 65.214.103.203 (talk) 16:44, 22 June 2009 (UTC)

    You will need to first register an account, which has many benefits, including the ability to create articles. Once you have registered, please search Misplaced Pages first to make sure that an article does not already exist on the subject. Please also review a few of our relevant policies and guidelines which all articles should comport with. As Misplaced Pages is an encyclopedia, articles must not contain original research, must be written from a neutral point of view, should cite to reliable sources which verify their content and must not contain unsourced, negative content about living people.
    Articles must also demonstrate the notability of the subject. Please see our subject specific guidelines for people, bands and musicians, companies and organizations and web content and note that if you are closely associated with the subject, our conflict of interest guideline strongly recommends against you creating the article.
    If you still think an article is appropriate, see Help:Starting a new page. You might also look at Misplaced Pages:Your first article and Misplaced Pages:How to write a great article for guidance, and please consider taking a tour through the Misplaced Pages:Tutorial so that you know how to properly format the article before creation.
    As for the placement of the article in a subcategory, simply add ] to the article. An example of adding a nonprofit category would be: ] Excirial 16:52, 22 June 2009 (UTC)
    Don't worry about categorisation yet, make sure that your subject meets the notability criteria first. – ukexpat (talk) 16:55, 22 June 2009 (UTC)

    how to post a biography

    I have read the "Your First article" , "Manual of Style (biographies)" and sample biographies, but cannot find the "sandbox" or "user page" needed to get started. after i log in, from the main page, where do I go to set started entering the material for a biography, please? thank you Minnaolive (talk) 17:47, 22 June 2009 (UTC)

    Before creating an article, please search Misplaced Pages first to make sure that an article does not already exist on the subject. Please also review a few of our relevant policies and guidelines which all articles should comport with. As Misplaced Pages is an encyclopedia, articles must not contain original research, must be written from a neutral point of view, should cite to reliable sources which verify their content and must not contain unsourced, negative content about living people.
    Articles must also demonstrate the notability of the subject. Please see our subject specific guidelines for people, bands and musicians, companies and organizations and web content and note that if you are closely associated with the subject, our conflict of interest guideline strongly recommends against you creating the article.
    If you still think an article is appropriate, see Help:Starting a new page. You might also look at Misplaced Pages:Your first article and Misplaced Pages:How to write a great article for guidance, and please consider taking a tour through the Misplaced Pages:Tutorial so that you know how to properly format the article before creation. Algebraist 17:50, 22 June 2009 (UTC)
    You can use User:Minnaolive/Sandbox as a sandbox, and User:Minnaolive is your user page. To create content there just edit and save something there. —teb728 t c 19:38, 22 June 2009 (UTC)
    I have created the sandbox for you by adding the {{User sandbox}} template to User:Minnaolive/Sandbox, and I added a link to it on your user page. – ukexpat (talk) 19:52, 22 June 2009 (UTC)

    Health questions on reference desk.

    i know we are not suposed to ask for medical advice on the reference desk but this confuses me. Am i alowed to ask questions such as what compresion bandage works the best or is that considerd to much of a health question. What if it isnt a question about a serious health issue such as cliping finger nails to short or getting a briuse from stubing my toe i understand that there would be leagle problems with a serious health question but what if it isnt. could i ask a question like "is it ok to not have a rest day in my workout rotine and insted never work the same muscles 2 days in a row". thanks it would be appreciated if the rule about health questions was more specific when refuring to health and if it had some sugestions.--76.235.193.24 (talk) 18:05, 22 June 2009 (UTC)

    The place to discuss the reference desk is WT:RD. Algebraist 18:08, 22 June 2009 (UTC)
    • (edit conflict) I think it depends on whether you're asking for directions on what to do or whether you're asking for what could happen. For example, asking "What happens if I clip my nails to short?" could be OK, because there are specific things that can happen. Asking how close to clip them or whether or not it's dangerous is probably asking too much. TNXMan 18:10, 22 June 2009 (UTC)
    • Similarly asking "Is X a symptom of disease Y" is acceptable; Asking "I got Symptom X, do i have disease Y?" is not. You can actually check this by asking yourself: "Am i asking a knowledge question, or am i asking for advice or a judgement?" If the answer is the former, it ok to ask it at the reference desk. If not, then its a medical question and should be avoided. Excirial 18:25, 22 June 2009 (UTC)
    • Yet another way to put it: If a responder needs to diagnose your health problem, make a prognosis about the future of your health, or suggest treatment for your health problem, then you shouldn't ask the question. The RD responders are not supposed to make a diagnosis, prognosis, or treatment recommendation. -- kainaw 18:39, 22 June 2009 (UTC)
    • Asking a question isn't necessarily dangerous, but acting on the answer could be. Anybody can edit Misplaced Pages, so there's no telling what sort of an answer you might get. Even if by some miracle you got an answer from a qualified medical professional, you may have asked the wrong question. That's why physicians need to examine patients directly. A patient who has no medical training might pose a question in a misleading way. As an extreme example, someone might ask what birth control pills to take, without mentioning that he is male. The responder might assume only a woman would ask such a question, and never think to check that assumption. This problem would be less likely to arise if a physician can examine the patient. --Teratornis (talk) 03:07, 24 June 2009 (UTC)

    What's the tag for a broken link?

    Resolved

    A web site that was being used as a source is either down or defunct. What's the tag to indicate a broken link? A Quest For Knowledge (talk) 18:08, 22 June 2009 (UTC)

    {{dead link}}. Algebraist 18:09, 22 June 2009 (UTC)
    Jeez...why couldn't I remember that? Thanks! A Quest For Knowledge (talk) 18:51, 22 June 2009 (UTC)

    Policy on People Articles

    Hi. Is there a policy that says who can have an article on them selves (not user page). Eg. Can an ordanery person have an article in the main namespace about them? --Lcawte (talk) 18:57, 22 June 2009 (UTC)

    Yes, there is a policy: Misplaced Pages:Notability (people). Algebraist 19:01, 22 June 2009 (UTC)
    If you don't qualify for an article on WP, there are other options such as Wikipopuli and Wikibios.  – ukexpat (talk) 19:48, 22 June 2009 (UTC)
    Misplaced Pages:Notability (people) is a notability guideline, not a policy. Who then was a gentleman? (talk) 18:26, 23 June 2009 (UTC)

    Internet Explorer 8

    The above buttons {cite, bold, signature, etc) does not seem to be working in my version of IE8. Please help, Tyw7‍ ‍‍ (TalkContributions) Leading Innovations >>> 21:21, 22 June 2009 (UTC)

    They work fine for me in Firefox, Chrome and IE 8.0. Is there any chance you disabled javascript? The buttons require it to be enabled. Excirial 21:27, 22 June 2009 (UTC)
    The buttons work when I log out. --Tyw7‍ ‍‍ (TalkContributions) Leading Innovations >>> 21:49, 22 June 2009 (UTC)
    You have a lot of entries in User:Tyw7/monobook.js. Try removing them and bypass your cache. If that fixes the problem, then add them back a bit at a time until it breaks ago. ---— Gadget850 (Ed)  22:07, 22 June 2009 (UTC)
    Which section is causing the problem? --Tyw7‍ ‍‍ (TalkContributions) Leading Innovations >>> 22:11, 22 June 2009 (UTC)
    Even clearing the page does not work. --Tyw7‍ ‍‍ (TalkContributions) Leading Innovations >>> 22:13, 22 June 2009 (UTC)


    There is a yellow error on page error on the botton left of the bar. This is what it says: Webpage error details

    User Agent: Mozilla/4.0 (compatible; MSIE 8.0; Windows NT 5.1; Trident/4.0; Mozilla/4.0 (compatible; MSIE 6.0; Windows NT 5.1; SV1) ; .NET CLR 1.1.4322; .NET CLR 2.0.50727; .NET CLR 3.0.04506.30; .NET CLR 3.0.04506.648; .NET CLR 3.0.4506.2152; .NET CLR 3.5.30729) Timestamp: Mon, 22 Jun 2009 22:14:34 UTC


    Message: Expected identifier, string or number Line: 4 Char: 1 Code: 0 URI: http://en.wikipedia.org/search/?title=MediaWiki:Gadget-Friendly.js&action=raw&ctype=text/javascript?227


    Message: Object doesn't support this property or method Line: 1697 Char: 2 Code: 0 URI: http://en.wikipedia.org/search/?title=User:AzaToth/morebits.js&action=raw&ctype=text/javascript


    Message: 'Namespace' is undefined Line: 30 Char: 1 Code: 0 URI: http://en.wikipedia.org/search/?title=User:AzaToth/twinkleimagetraverse.js&action=raw&ctype=text/javascript


    Message: Expected identifier, string or number Line: 60 Char: 2 Code: 0 URI: http://en.wikipedia.org/search/?title=User:AzaToth/twinklebatchundelete.js&action=raw&ctype=text/javascript


    Message: Object doesn't support this property or method Line: 598 Char: 3 Code: 0 URI: http://en.wikipedia.org/search/?title=User:AzaToth/twinklefluff.js&action=raw&ctype=text/javascript


    Message: Unexpected call to method or property access. Line: 83 Char: 3 Code: 0 URI: http://en.wikipedia.org/skins-1.5/common/edit.js?227

    --Tyw7‍ ‍‍ (TalkContributions) Leading Innovations >>> 22:15, 22 June 2009 (UTC)

    Hm. It looks like your JavaScript is desperately in need of fixing. Are the edit toolbar buttons appearing at all, or are they simply unclickable? I'm worried that there might be some underlying problem, and per the above, I haven't a clue why your browser is unable to parse something as simply as MediaWiki's edit.js. Might I suggest sticking with another browser? That should fix the problem, at least temporarily. The Earwig (Talk | Contribs) 00:19, 23 June 2009 (UTC)
    Also, may I ask that you tone down your signature a tad? It appears very large on screen and takes up at least three lines in the edit window. Thanks! TNXMan 02:04, 23 June 2009 (UTC)
    Yes, they appear, but is unclickable. However, when I logout, I can use those buttons. I have blanked the my javascript js but that doesn't work. --Tyw7‍ ‍‍ (TalkContributions) Leading Innovations >>> 03:33, 23 June 2009 (UTC)

    Where do I ask questions about wikiedia, ut not aout using wikipedia?

    Where do I ask questions about wikiedia, ut not aout using wikipedia? For example, I want to ask gently technical questions about "how many Megaytes (or mebigibyte) Misplaced Pages:RfA was in 2008, and how many has it been so far in 2009?", and similar questions. These arent about using WP, and they don't seem to be (or maybe I'm wrong) suitable for reference desk. Thanks. 82.33.48.96 (talk) 21:49, 22 June 2009 (UTC)

    If you have questions about specific areas of Misplaced Pages, it's usually best to ask them on that page's talk page. For example, questions about RfA should be asked at the RFA talk page. If you don't get an answer (some pages are less frequented than others), just ask here and we can point you in the right direction. TNXMan 21:55, 22 June 2009 (UTC)

    NO MARKGORMLEY?!

    Alright. I'm pissed off okay?

    I have been listening to this, God, this ... Amazing man's music. His name, is Mark Gormley,

    Today, I was looking around and saw, HE HAS NO WIKI PAGE.

    Fix it, NOW.


    Love from, Anon —Preceding unsigned comment added by 82.34.211.75 (talk) 22:05, 22 June 2009 (UTC)

    We have had such an article in the past, and it has been deleted (on five separate occasions, by four different admins) for failing to explain what makes Mark Gormley important enough to appear in an encyclopedia. If you think he deserves an article, write one yourself, but make sure you show why he satisfies our notablity guidelines. Algebraist 22:09, 22 June 2009 (UTC)
    You can request articles to be created here. ZooFari 22:11, 22 June 2009 (UTC)
    Wow, he's not even on Deletionpedia. For a deleted Misplaced Pages article not to appear on Deletionpedia, it must be pretty bad. Mark Gormley's Web site is a case study in peacock language, not that that would disqualify him by itself from having an article here. It might be deliberate humor for all I know. --Teratornis (talk) 19:19, 24 June 2009 (UTC)
    I think I get it now. Mark Gormley appears to be the inspiration for an internet meme whereby people compete to see who can offer the most effusively overblown praise to this decidedly uncharismatic performer. The actress in his low-budget, low-production-value YouTube video that I just watched is pretty cute, though. --Teratornis (talk) 19:27, 24 June 2009 (UTC)

    June 23

    Put de: Nat Wolff on the article please.

    Hello. There´s an article about Nat Wolff in the de: WP. Please put that on the article, because it´s semi-protectet. Thanks. --Nemash (talk) 23:25, 3 June 2009 (UTC) This quote is a copy of my shout on the talkpage in Nat Wolff. There was nobody who contributed it. This should be the right help desk. I'm not sure. Bye --Nemash (talk) 01:09, 23 June 2009 (UTC)

    Done. You could've just made a few more edits and done it yourself, you know. Algebraist 01:12, 23 June 2009 (UTC)
    I keep all my knowledge for the german WP projekt :). But, that's a point. I'll try to catch up with my edits here. I've just added some articels to my watchlist. --Nemash (talk) 01:34, 23 June 2009 (UTC)

    Accidental Non-Capitalization

    So, I recently created an article for Frenchtown High School, but the title is "Frenchtown high school," which looks extremely sophomoric. How do I change the title to the proper one? Thanks! —Preceding unsigned comment added by Thomasse (talkcontribs) 01:11, 23 June 2009 (UTC)

    See Help:Moving a page. Algebraist 01:15, 23 June 2009 (UTC)

    Just wondering

    Can you make an article about a book without the cover? Rory (reply on my page!) (talk) 02:26, 23 June 2009 (UTC)

    Sure - there is no rule that a page about a book must contain an image; For example 3001: The Final Odyssey has one, while Lilith's Brood does not. The list of books i clicked trough does not have a book cover image for every article. Just make sure the article meets the notability, reliable sources and neutral point of view guidelines. Excirial 05:06, 23 June 2009 (UTC)
    If you're referring to the books on Misplaced Pages, your question may be answered at Help:Books. TNXMan 11:54, 23 June 2009 (UTC)

    talkback to another wiki's talk page (Commons to be specific)

    Is there a way to get {{talkback}} to point a user to their talk page on another wiki such as Commons. I want to direct a user to their talk page on Commons. I recall that there is a way to do it with {{talkback}} but I can't remember the syntax. --Captain-tucker (talk) 02:25, 23 June 2009 (UTC)

    This can't be done with the talkback template AFAIK. But why don't you just leave a simple message? The linking is easy; just commons:User talk:Example. Chamal 11:21, 23 June 2009 (UTC)
    Yes I will do that, I could have sworn that I once saw a talkback on a[REDACTED] talk page that directed the user to a commons talk page and was just curious if it could be done. Thanks--Captain-tucker (talk) 11:52, 23 June 2009 (UTC)
    An ugly brute-force method would be to substitute the template and then edit the resulting wikitext to make the commons interwiki link work. However, the {{talkback}} documentation says not to substitute the template, with no explanation of why, so I guess you shouldn't do that. You could always use a {{Notice}} template and stick in your own message, if you want something that looks fancy. For example:
    See my talk page at Commons:User talk:Teratornis.
    --Teratornis (talk) 02:40, 24 June 2009 (UTC)

    creating a book

    I have read the how to save your book instructions and I still dont get it. I click on show my book and when I'm looking at the page that has my book I see there is no option or tab to click on to save it. I really want to create a book. What am I doing wrong?Jbrantwo (talk) 03:31, 23 June 2009 (UTC)

    I am not aware of any "save your book instructions" on Misplaced Pages. What instructions are you talking about? Misplaced Pages is an encyclopedia: it contains pages but no books. —teb728 t c 07:45, 23 June 2009 (UTC)
    I assume it is about this page Excirial 08:00, 23 June 2009 (UTC)
    See Help:Books Prodego 08:03, 23 June 2009 (UTC)

    sending sms

    since i am now registered, how do i send sms --User:Jimojok

    Misplaced Pages is not an SMS service. Its an encyclopaedia. --SpaceFlight89 (talk) 07:02, 23 June 2009 (UTC)

    Right. See Misplaced Pages:Talk page and Misplaced Pages:E-mailing users for ways to contact other Misplaced Pages users. PrimeHunter (talk) 11:40, 23 June 2009 (UTC)

    Tables

    How do I set a fixed column width and control text alignment within a table? (left, centre, right alignment, but also top, centre, bottom alignment.) V85 (talk) 10:03, 23 June 2009 (UTC)

    See Help:Table#Setting your column widths and other parts of Help:Table. I don't know a method to set alignment of a column in one place. You may have to do it for each cell in the column. PrimeHunter (talk) 11:24, 23 June 2009 (UTC)

    Allocation of articles to namespaces fails

    Hello @ all,

    some weeks ago, I defined some customized namespaces and everything worked fine. But now I have a problem: Let's say one namespace I recently defined is called "NewNamespace". Now I want to create a new article within this namespace, let's say "NewNamespace:HelloWorld". Then what happens is, that the new article is stored in the (Main) namespace with title "NewNamespace:HelloWorld", but not in the "NewNamespace". The strange thing about it is, that the articles which are already in the "NewNamespace" still work fine, so I don't think that it's a problem with the namespace definition. Can anyone help me? Does anyone have an explanation for this?

    PS: I checked about a hundred times that I don't have any typing errors within the article's name, so this easiest explanation drops out as well.

    62.157.208.213 (talk) 10:34, 23 June 2009 (UTC)

    Your question seems to be related to the mediawiki software, which is also used to run wikipedia. In case this is true i would advice either asking this question at the mediawiki website or at the reference desk. The[REDACTED] help desk is only used for questions about using wikipedia. Thank you. Excirial 11:28, 23 June 2009 (UTC)

    Need help with Archival of this talk page

    Resolved – MiszaBot is now archiving. PrimeHunter (talk) 12:44, 24 June 2009 (UTC)

    A while back, one of the editors set-up MiszaBot to archive Talk:List of downloadable songs for the Rock Band series. This worked once, but since then we've noticed that talk threads are not being archived anymore. I've since gone in an manually archived some of the content. I am not familiar with how MiszaBot works, but I'm guessing some of it is because the Talk page frequently gets unsigned edits or edits put in odd places (like the "lead" or "header") which could be throwing off the archival. Can somebody with more knowledge of this bot take a look and provide some advice on how to correct the auto-archival? Thanks! -- TRTX 14:55, 23 June 2009 (UTC)

    I have reverted this edit which was made 3 days after the latest MiszaBot archiving. Maybe this fixes it. PrimeHunter (talk) 15:33, 23 June 2009 (UTC)
    I always end up having to do some hand-archiving of my talk page, for just those reasons. --Orange Mike | Talk 15:34, 23 June 2009 (UTC)

    Alberta Ridings infoboxes

    It seems that all the maps in the infoboxes of Alberta ridings are shifted to the left. An example is the Calgary East article... Does anyone know what is making them all do that? Is it maybe the template being used in these boxes? It is Template:Calgary federal electoral districts map... Thank you! TastyCakes (talk) 15:08, 23 June 2009 (UTC)

    It's right-aligned here. The alignment of infoboxes is set by site-wide CSS; perhaps your browser isn't loading it properly? Have you tried bypassing your cache? Algebraist 15:13, 23 June 2009 (UTC)
    Note that he's referring to the maps, not the infoboxes themselves. The map is also left-aligned within the infobox for me. Sarcasticidealist (talk) 15:15, 23 June 2009 (UTC)
    Looks like a common mistake in the template. It appears align:center; should center the image, but this does not work in a block element like <div>...</div>. Remove it and change the margin to margin:auto;. ---— Gadget850 (Ed)  15:16, 23 June 2009 (UTC)
    Hmm do you mean in the Template:Infobox Canada electoral district template? TastyCakes (talk) 15:27, 23 June 2009 (UTC)
    Whoops— that would be helpful. Calgary East uses {{Infobox Canada electoral district}} where the imagemap parameter uses {{Calgary federal electoral districts map}} which is where the problem lies. ---— Gadget850 (Ed)  15:31, 23 June 2009 (UTC)
    So you mean you can't use the locator map within the electoral district template? TastyCakes (talk) 15:35, 23 June 2009 (UTC)
    I'm not sure. You would be better to ask on the template talk. I have started a discussion at Template talk:Calgary federal electoral districts map#Centered?; take a look at the testcases and see if that is what you are looking for. ---— Gadget850 (Ed)  00:44, 24 June 2009 (UTC)

    I'm having trouble finding a wiki.answers.com referenced file

    I have a print-out of wiki.answers.com/Q/What are Fiction genres of 6/15/2009. I'd like to find out more about "What are Fiction genres?" YOur page 2 of 3 lists "Search" as "Answers.com>Wiki Anseres>Categories>Literature and Language>Literary Terms>What are Fiction genres?" I can go as far as "Wiki Answers/..../Books and Literature/" but when I add "Literary Terms" and re-send, I'm told there is no such page or file. What should I do next?


    (sorry, but I can't insert your requested "termination" characters!)— Preceding unsigned comment added by 75.73.9.96 (talkcontribs)

    This is Misplaced Pages - not WikiAnswers.com. But we're helpful folks, so here you go. Best, Zain Ebrahim (talk) 16:27, 23 June 2009 (UTC)

    Yochanan Sofer

    Resolved

    Hello, I cannot figure out how to get the image to appear in the infobox. I tried uploading the image to Wikimedia Commons using CommonsHelperTool, but it said there was no such image on en.wikipedia. What do I do now? Thanks, Yoninah (talk) 17:45, 23 June 2009 (UTC)

    Done Excirial 18:09, 23 June 2009 (UTC)
    Wow, how'd you do that? The other infoboxes that I checked didn't have that "300px" attached to the image line. Did you tweak something else about the image? Yoninah (talk) 20:11, 23 June 2009 (UTC)
    300px was only added to give a reasonable size. The thing that made the image appear was the double brackets around the file name in . Some template parameters require brackets around file names and some don't. Look at the template documentation, or maybe at the template source, or experiment to find out. In this case the documentation at Template:Infobox Rebbe shows the brackets. PrimeHunter (talk) 20:19, 23 June 2009 (UTC)

    Talk page template for WP:NOTSOAPBOX

    Resolved –  – ukexpat (talk) 00:39, 24 June 2009 (UTC)

    Is there a template we can stick on article talk pages to remind editors about WP:NOTSOAPBOX? It's in response to this, if anyone wants some context.

    Cheers, This flag once was reddeeds 17:28, 23 June 2009 (UTC)

    Im not aware of such a template, so i just made you one. It might need some working tweaks, but its a start at least. Excirial 18:18, 23 June 2009 (UTC)
    Please keep in mind that Misplaced Pages is not a soapbox. Propaganda, Promotion or Scandal mongering are not tolerated.
    {{Notaforum}}. PrimeHunter (talk) 20:11, 23 June 2009 (UTC)
    Thank you both - I could have sworn I'd seen one before, but these two solutions are excellent. Cheers, This flag once was reddeeds 00:32, 24 June 2009 (UTC)

    Today Genre

    Resolved –  – ukexpat (talk) 19:45, 23 June 2009 (UTC)

    Here is a list of today songs I found to be similar and beautiful at the same time:

    • Glenn Morrison - Contact (Original Mix)
    • Glenn Morrison - No Sudden Moves
    • Deadmau5 - Not Exactly (Inpetto Remix)
    • Hybrid - Finished Symphony (Deadmau5 Remix)
    • Fragma - Tocas Miracle 2008 (Inpetto 2008 Mix)
    • Whigfield feat. KLM Music - Saturday Night (Secret Sunday Remix)

    My wonder is: it's a today genre/subgenre, but what subgenre is? I don't think that calling it a Minimalist EDM would be enough due to the fact that all songs has the same particular sound timbres. A much more to-all-people-friendly song, in a sweeter style, a disco style composition, the first I've heard and reminiscent to all pieces from this list is Supermode - Tell Me Why (Raul Rincon Remix) (even Supermode - Tell Me Why). The genre/subgenre must be formed from 2007 to 2009. Hope someone knows or finds the answer. Thank you. --TudorTulok (talk) 18:38, 23 June 2009 (UTC)

    Have you tried Misplaced Pages's Reference Desk? They specialize in knowledge questions and will try to answer just about any question in the universe (except how to use Misplaced Pages, since that is what this Help Desk is for). Just follow the link, select the relevant section, and ask away. I hope this helps. --Orange Mike | Talk 18:47, 23 June 2009 (UTC)
    Thanks. I'll do that. --TudorTulok (talk) 18:58, 23 June 2009 (UTC)

    Missing space in Glycosidic bond

    Resolved –  – ukexpat (talk) 21:03, 23 June 2009 (UTC)

    After the link to glucoronic acid, the space between acid and via doesn't seem to be showing up...not sure why.

    Get rid of the code to bring up a wikitable just under the heading. Zain Ebrahim (talk) 19:40, 23 June 2009 (UTC)
     Done, seems to be OK now. – ukexpat (talk) 19:44, 23 June 2009 (UTC)

    trouble logging in

    I first tried creating an account using several passwords. Nothing was accepted, so I asked for[REDACTED] to set up a password. The first one didn't work, so I asked for a second password & it doesn't work. I tried all the correct capital & non-capital letters. Now neither the user account nor the password is accepted. I'm doing something wrong.

    What is the user name? By "I asked for[REDACTED] to set up a password", do you mean you clicked "E-mail new password" at the login screen? By "didn't work", do you mean you didn't receive a password or that the password was rejected when you entered it? You can also try Misplaced Pages:Request an account. PrimeHunter (talk) 22:17, 23 June 2009 (UTC)

    Wrongfully Deleted Entry

    We at Huthwaite corrected misinformation on our IP "SPIN Selling Model" and gave reference to our published book. Shortly thereafter this page was completely deleted, and it listed "unambiguous copyright infringement" as the reason why. We don't understand this because we used referenced the source which is our book that our company published and owns the rights to. Is it possible to renew or recreate the page without worrying about this issue in the future?

    Felicity Ro (talk) 20:57, 23 June 2009 (UTC)

    See WP:IOWN for the process to release copyright material for use on Misplaced Pages. Also, please read WP:NOSHARE - Misplaced Pages accounts not supposed to be shared by more than one user. Also wouldn't hurt to read WP:SPAM.  – ukexpat (talk) 21:01, 23 June 2009 (UTC)
    Just to be clear: If you own the copyright to a work, then you can licence the work in any way you see fit. To incorporate the work into Misplaced Pages, you must license the work (specifically, the portion of the work you put into Misplaced Pages) under a specific licence, namely the GFDL (and now also the Creative Commons Attribution/Share-Alike License 3.0.) Once you have done this, anyone in the whole wide world can then use this material, modified or unmodified, in any way they see fit, subject to the licnese, and you have absolutely no control of the material. So, yes, you can prove to us that you ar the copyright holder, and yes, you can then place teh material in Misplaced Pages, but you cannot later object if someone else ever uses the material. This will be true even if the material is subsequently deleted from Misplaced Pages. -Arch dude (talk) 23:27, 23 June 2009 (UTC)

    Signature problems

    I'm working on a new signature:

    ] ]

    Which translates to:

    just a little insignificant

    The only change I'm making to my signature is the color. The new one appears to work fine in my sandbox, but when I attempted to change it in my preferences, I got a big fat "Invalid raw signature. Check HTML tags" message. What am I doing wrong? just a little insignificant 21:15, 23 June 2009 (UTC)

    You have a tag that can't decide if it's a <font> or a <span>, leading to nonsensical html. Try ] ]. Algebraist 21:21, 23 June 2009 (UTC)
    (edit conflict) You need:
    ] ]
    Or:
    ] ]
    Both should work, the first is shorter though. weburiedoursecretsinthegarden 21:22, 23 June 2009 (UTC)
    Great, it works. Thank you both so much, and Algebraist, I'll keep that in mind for next time. Thanks- just a little insignificant 21:27, 23 June 2009 (UTC)
    Maybe it's my eyes, but the text in both those colours, particularly the yellow, is a little hard to read... – ukexpat (talk) 21:29, 23 June 2009 (UTC)
    If it's your eyes, it's mine also. Algebraist 21:30, 23 June 2009 (UTC)
    The Rule of tincture may be centuries old, but it still has sage advice to lend when picking out which colors to use for a Misplaced Pages signature (specifically, it's best not to put yellow letters on a white background). AlexiusHoratius 21:39, 23 June 2009 (UTC)
    Me too, I've changed it. Sorry. just a little insignificant 22:14, 23 June 2009 (UTC)
    Ah, much better. – ukexpat (talk) 00:15, 24 June 2009 (UTC)
    Also, For colors that have such long names, try using hex triplets, it cuts down on characters, see List of colors. For instance, Cornflower blue is #6495ED, you save 7 characters there, Just a hint! ---Scarce |||| You shouldn't have buried me, I'm not dead--- 09:07, 24 June 2009 (UTC)

    city

    Which is bigger houston or chicago?

    There's an encyclopaedia just around the corner...see Houston and Chicago. It's probably Chicago. Xenon54 (talk) 22:52, 23 June 2009 (UTC)
    Also, List of United States cities by population. This sort of question is better addressed to one of the reference desks, in this case probably Misplaced Pages:Reference desk/Miscellaneous. TastyCakes (talk) 23:02, 23 June 2009 (UTC)
    What do you mean by "bigger"? Bigger in terms of population, area, economic output, association with a particular cultural activity? --Teratornis (talk) 02:31, 24 June 2009 (UTC)

    Refinancing

    when you refinance your home-do you have to reapply for the homestead credit76.214.130.252 (talk) 23:40, 23 June 2009 (UTC)

    Have you tried Misplaced Pages's Reference Desk? They specialize in knowledge questions and will try to answer just about any question in the universe (except how to use Misplaced Pages, since that is what this Help Desk is for). Just follow the link, select the relevant section, and ask away. I hope this helps. But note that we cannot give legal advice. – ukexpat (talk) 00:13, 24 June 2009 (UTC)
    Also specify where the home is. Different countries have different laws. --Teratornis (talk) 02:33, 24 June 2009 (UTC)
    And possibly states as well, see for example Homestead exemption in Florida. --Teratornis (talk) 02:34, 24 June 2009 (UTC)

    June 24

    Assitant Manager

    i want to now how to be a good assistant maneger —Preceding unsigned comment added by 70.246.148.209 (talk) 24 June 2009

    This page is only for help on using Misplaced Pages. I'm afraid we can't answer questions like this. Besides, this is something that will require quite a bit of learning and not something that can be explained by a short answer. Chamal 04:08, 24 June 2009 (UTC)

    final words in a news column

    My Aunt Katie has died and I want to write the final Ore City news column for our small county newspaper in her name, ending with the words which indicate that this is the last column. I know there is such a phrase, but I cannot remember it. She did this column for more than fifty years, reporting comings and goings in our small town. I would like to end her column with these words, but I do not know them, although I know I have seen them in the past. Can you help? Thanks! — Preceding unsigned comment added by 4.225.168.55 (talk) 24 June 2009 (UTC)

    The best place to ask this is the language reference desk. I suggest you try there. Chamal 04:23, 24 June 2009 (UTC)
    Do you perhaps mean –30– ? --Orange Mike | Talk 17:21, 24 June 2009 (UTC) proud son of a newsman, occasional journo himself

    Auto formatting of dates

    Is the pissing match over the linking of dates for autoformatting over? Who won? WP:MOSNUM doesn't say that the battle is still raging but then it didn't a few months ago either when I de-linked some dates and subsequently got thrown into an arbitration case. So is MOSNUM right? Is linking for the sake of autoformatting again deprecated? Dismas| 04:41, 24 June 2009 (UTC)

    • You'll get different answers depending on who you answer. Personally, I don't understand why you can't autoformat without any additional code. It would be just a personal preference setting that doesn't affect anyone else. - Mgm| 08:05, 24 June 2009 (UTC)

    question?

    how and where i can ask a question about a topic? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Sanak3 (talkcontribs) 24 June 2009

    If the question is about how to edit Misplaced Pages, you're already in the right place. If you're looking for a general sort of factual question, then the Reference Desk is the place for you. Dismas| 06:39, 24 June 2009 (UTC)

    can't open wikipedia

    New computer behaviour...when I try to open a[REDACTED] entry in IE 8 I get an error message saying that windows does not recognize this MIME type.

    HOw do I fix this? Thanks —Preceding unsigned comment added by 68.109.83.152 (talk) 24 June 2009

    this at the msdn blog may be of some help. The items listed there suggest:
    1. Register for an account
    2. Remove Google desktop
    3. Clear the cache

    If those items fail to resolve the problem, you may find some more knowledgeable assistance over at the Misplaced Pages:Reference desk/Computing section if that fails. Best of luck. — Ched :  ?  07:01, 24 June 2009 (UTC)

    Infobox

    How can I create an infobox? ---Scarce |||| You shouldn't have buried me, I'm not dead--- 09:02, 24 June 2009 (UTC)

    For what article? ---— Gadget850 (Ed)  09:07, 24 June 2009 (UTC)
    No, I mean an infobox template ---Scarce |||| You shouldn't have buried me, I'm not dead--- 09:20, 24 June 2009 (UTC)
    Use {{infobox}} as a meta-template— many infoboxes are based on it. ---— Gadget850 (Ed)  09:44, 24 June 2009 (UTC)
    Let me give it a shot! ---Scarce |||| You shouldn't have buried me, I'm not dead--- 10:05, 24 June 2009 (UTC)
    Have you checked Category:Infobox templates to make sure that one fitting your situation does not already exist? – ukexpat (talk) 13:49, 24 June 2009 (UTC)

    Speed?

    Is it just me, or has Misplaced Pages been slower the past few days? I'll be glad to know it's not just me. All Hallow's Wraith (talk) 10:01, 24 June 2009 (UTC)

    I haven't noticed a difference, what web browser do you use? ---Scarce |||| You shouldn't have buried me, I'm not dead--- 10:06, 24 June 2009 (UTC)
    Internet Explorer. All Hallow's Wraith (talk) 10:17, 24 June 2009 (UTC)
    One strange and possibly related thing I noticed was that when I pressed "Yes" on "Restore all default settings" in "My preferences", the speed seemed to pick up, although it's since slowed down a little again. All Hallow's Wraith (talk) 10:19, 24 June 2009 (UTC)
    I despise IE, you have to get Mozilla Firefox it's free and very up to date. you can download it here from the official website. Plus, most internet providers aren't really compatible with IE ---Scarce |||| You shouldn't have buried me, I'm not dead--- 10:36, 24 June 2009 (UTC)
    I've been having the same problem under Firefox, but I thought it was something on my end. Try disabling addons, or if you use a skin other than Monobook, switch and see if that helps. You might also want to notify those at WP:VPT and see if they can offer any more assistance. Xenon54 (talk) 12:13, 24 June 2009 (UTC)

    Image reversal

    Not long ago, I downloaded an image, reversed it, and then uploaded it to Misplaced Pages Commons. I did this because the person in the image was facing right, and the image was on the right of the page. It's almost always better to have the person in an image facing into the page rather than out from the page. And this was a situation in which the image was in the lead and had to be on the right. I have searched the FAQ and other Help pages, and it appears that the MediaWiki software does not allow a simple reversal of an image by placing some kind of reversal command or code within an image file link on an article page. I'm wondering if I've just overlooked it, or does a new reversed image have to be uploaded each time a "perspective" problem is found?  ^) Paine Ellsworth (^  10:36, 24 June 2009 (UTC)

    I'm am not an expert, but that may be violating copyrights depending on the photo, I never really notice where the photo is pointing, Freddy Krueger's is come to think of it. I never would go through that much effort ---Scarce |||| You shouldn't have buried me, I'm not dead--- 10:44, 24 June 2009 (UTC)
    I can see you've never uploaded an image before, do you need help? If so I'd be more than happy to give you a walkthrough ---Scarce |||| You shouldn't have buried me, I'm not dead--- 10:47, 24 June 2009 (UTC)
    Copyright's not the problem. A reversed image holds the same copyright as the original unreversed image. What I'm looking for is a command or code that can be simply added to the {{File:(image name.jpg)|thumb|right . . .}} on any given article page that will reverse the image, instead of having to download, reverse, upload each time an image needs reversed.  ^) Paine Ellsworth (^  11:13, 24 June 2009 (UTC)
    This can't be done AFAIK. You'll just have to upload the image again as you did. Alternatively you can change the alignment of the image (left or right) so that the subject faces the text. WP:IMAGES gives pretty much everything about images, if you need it. Chamal 11:19, 24 June 2009 (UTC)
    It's called Wikimedia Commons and not Misplaced Pages Commons. This must be about File:Benjamin Franklin by Joseph Siffred Duplessis.jpg and the reverted File:Benjamin Franklin by Joseph Siffred Duplessis left.jpg. See Misplaced Pages:Manual of Style#Images which speaks against image reversal for layout reasons. I also dislike this kind of image manipulation and think it's practically falsification. PrimeHunter (talk) 11:45, 24 June 2009 (UTC)
    I would remove the 'practically' there. Algebraist 12:02, 24 June 2009 (UTC)
    Yes, just now I've seen the image reverted. I reversed it in good faith, and I hope you believe that there was never any desire to promote falsification. The deed was entirely for the benefit of the reader. An outward perspective, as it is now, tends to lead the reader's eyes away from the page, whereas an inward perspective leads the reader's eyes into the page. I promise you that this was my only objective!  ^) Paine Ellsworth (^  14:32, 24 June 2009 (UTC)
    Don't worry. I was certain you did it in good faith. I was just expressing my general view of image reversal in connection with the linked guideline and not as a comment about you. If you disagree with the guideline then you can suggest a change at Misplaced Pages talk:Manual of Style. As long as the guideline is at it is, I don't think you should add reversed images to articles for layout reasons. PrimeHunter (talk) 15:48, 24 June 2009 (UTC)
    Just a note, as I'm the one who replaced the image with the unflopped one in Benjamin Franklin: The inadvertent flopping of an image in a print publication (a not infrequent occurrence) is considered an error; and deliberately floppiing an image does indeed constitute misrepresentation, like manipulating a direct quotation to make it imply something that the author did not intend. I see no reason for Misplaced Pages to have lower standards than such publications in this regard. Deor (talk) 19:53, 24 June 2009 (UTC)

    (undent) I fail to grasp the importance of which way a person in a photo is looking. If a photo appears at the top of an article, should the subject be looking down? If the photo is at the bottom, should the subject be looking up? And should the subject be pointing as well with an index finger? This might be akin to breaking the fourth wall, i.e. depicting people who seem to be aware of their depiction. There's nothing wrong with breaking the fourth wall, it's a common theatrical and cinematic device, usually to convey irony or humor. However, I'm trying to understand what sort of reader needs to be told where to find the text on the screen. It usually seems apparent to me. --Teratornis (talk) 19:36, 24 June 2009 (UTC)

    No. Don't reverse images. That is taught in Basic Journalism 101 or Basic Photography 1A. It is dishonest. If the layout allows, you can switch the image from the right to the left side of the page so the guy or gal faces into the page (taught in most good journalism schools). It's a matter of holding the page together. Very psychological. Your pal, GeorgeLouis (talk) 20:20, 24 June 2009 (UTC) (Later) I deleted one usage from the English Wiki and one from the German, then I went to Wiki Commons and proposed to delete the image. See here. GeorgeLouis (talk) 20:41, 24 June 2009 (UTC)

    Check link

    Resolved – Kateshortforbob 11:41, 24 June 2009 (UTC)

    I'm doing a bit of preliminary tidying of a new article, A J Dalton, which contains an external link to here. Unfortunately it's blocked by my corporate firewall :-( - would anyone be able to check whether this is the author's website or something else, as I don't want to save the article with a mislabelled link, and I won't have access to a free computer for some time. Thanks --Kateshortforbob 11:25, 24 June 2009 (UTC)

    It seems to be a blog, which appears to be owned by "Adam Dalton" (At least that is the user posting article's) Excirial 11:28, 24 June 2009 (UTC)
    Wow - thanks for the quick reply! So possibly safe to list as an external link for the author, then? From what little I can see on the Google excerpt, it looks like the WP article is quoting directly from another page on that blog, which probably won't do, though. (the firewall is your friend, the firewall is your friend) Thanks again --Kateshortforbob 11:41, 24 June 2009 (UTC)
    I would say it is pretty safe to list the blog as such - it has every indication sign of a personal blog. As for the literal quoting, i cannot seem to find it in that page. I even tried finding single words that might be copied, but it seems to be a legit text :) Excirial 11:48, 24 June 2009 (UTC)
    Ha, I probably shouldn't rely on cached Google excerpts for these things! It may be a moot point, however, as the sentence has now been removed and the page prodded... --Kateshortforbob 11:54, 24 June 2009 (UTC)
    Why was this article not speedily deleted? I cannot see any shred of importance or significance. In any event, clearly fails WP:BIO. – ukexpat (talk) 14:48, 24 June 2009 (UTC)
    The speedy (A7) was declined, I suspect because the article sort of asserted notability at the time (it's been changed since), although you'd have to ask the decliner to be sure. I was giving it the benefit of the doubt, and didn't discover it was a self-publishing job til I'd posted here. It's on a prod now, so we'll see what happens in a week --Kateshortforbob 15:30, 24 June 2009 (UTC)

    Typhoon affecting Vietnam between 8-1-1971 thru 12-26-1971

    PTSD (post tramatic syndrom disorder)

    The cities of Hue and Fubi Vietnam

    Hello. I suspect, based on your question, that you found one of our roughly three million articles, and thought that we were directly affiliated in some way with that subject. Please note that you are at Misplaced Pages, the free online encyclopedia that anyone can edit, and this page is a help desk for asking questions related to using the encyclopedia. Thus, we have no inside involvement on the subject of your question. You can, however, search our vast catalogue of articles by typing a subject into the search field on the left hand side of your screen. If you cannot find what you are looking for, we have a reference desk, divided into various subject areas, where the asking of knowledge questions is welcome. Best of luck.. – ukexpat (talk) 13:51, 24 June 2009 (UTC)
    (e/c)Hi - I'm not sure whether you have a Misplaced Pages-related question or not. Perhaps you could rephrase? Our article on the 1971 Pacific typhoon season may be of some use, and there are a number of candidates whose duration coincides with the period you mention, although not all of them may have affected Vietnam. Our article on Huế doesn't mention a typhoon, and I haven't yet been able to find an article on a city called "Fubi" (Vietnamese apparently does not use the letter 'F'). You may have more success with your question(s) at one of the Reference Desks, where people answer general knowledge questions. Make sure to give as much detail as you can when asking there. --Kateshortforbob 14:03, 24 June 2009 (UTC)

    Non-English Content

    Sorry if this isn't the correct place to ask, but I can't find any information. How should non-English language pages in en.wiki be treated? I would add a speedy deletion tag but it's not in the criteria. Any help is appreciated, the article is Gastropunkt. ReformatMe (talk) 14:07, 24 June 2009 (UTC)

    Tag it as "needs translation", which has been done. (It's also been tagged for speedy, but because the group is not notable.) Xenon54 (talk) 14:16, 24 June 2009 (UTC)
    Place {{NotEnglish}} on the page that needs translation, and follow the instructions on the template once you saved it. If the article is present on another language[REDACTED] (Read: it has been literally copied over) you should tag it as a DB-A2. Keep in mind that some users are attempting to translate article's in place, so it might be a good idea to wait for some time to see if the user actively translates it. Excirial 14:37, 24 June 2009 (UTC)

    musical lirics

    an excentric is giving away prizes to his vault for anyone who knows what artist did the song with 2 lines of the following lyrics,WELL NOW IT'S TOO LATE FOR TALKING,WE CAN TALK LATER ON.LET THE SAXOPHONE PLAY US UNTIL THE CHORUS OF DAWN. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 98.229.146.120 (talk) 24 June 2009

    I'm sorry, but this desk is for asking questions about using Misplaced Pages. You may be better served by Googling the lyrics to see to which song they belong. TNXMan 15:01, 24 June 2009 (UTC)
    Oo, oo, I know this one (I think): Angel of Mercy by Dire Straits, from Communiqué. – ukexpat (talk) 15:35, 24 June 2009 (UTC)

    Can't talk to a user reversing my changes

    I'm having a problem attempting to add a EL to the orangutan page/entry. MrOllie keeps reversing my edit and although I know there may be a valid reason for him doing so, I can't "talk" to him to find out why. I've been told (by another member) I should ask the question here. His page doesn't seem to provide me with the ability to edit his talk page and I have no idea how to communicate with him. For more details you can see my talk page that has some correspondence with another member. EscapedApe (talk) 15:09, 24 June 2009 (UTC)

    User talk:MrOllie is semi-protected due to vandalism so it can only be edited by autoconfirmed users. Your account happened to become autoconfirmed when you made this post so you should be able to edit User talk:MrOllie now. PrimeHunter (talk) 15:24, 24 June 2009 (UTC)

    Problem with article content and editor disagreement

    Resolved –  – ukexpat (talk) 17:39, 24 June 2009 (UTC)

    In the article on SS Orduna, another editor added a largish (for the article) section on one particular journey of the ship by Robert Baden-Powell and Scouting leaders. I removed it, leaving a summary sentence, but then the other editor just undid it. I have left a comment on Talk:SS_Orduna explaining that I feel it should be included under the Baden-Powell or the Scouting pages - surely the article should be just about the ship? How do I get someone else to look at it and decide if I'm wrong or not - and if I'm wrong, to explain why? PhantomSteve (talk) 15:53, 24 June 2009 (UTC)

    I agree with you - that long section does unbalance the article and raises the question, "What about the other cruises?". If this particular cruise is worthy or more in-depth coverage, it should be in the Baden-Powell or Scouting articles, where its importance lies. You have begun the right way by opening a discussion on the article's talk page. Have you invited the other editor to participate in that discussion? If they have not watchlisted the page they may not know about it. – ukexpat (talk) 16:04, 24 June 2009 (UTC)
    I've had a reply from him, and given a reply of my own. I was about to invite him to contribute, but when I checked my watchlist, he'd replied! He still thinks I'm wrong, so I'm not sure! PhantomSteve (talk) 16:10, 24 June 2009 (UTC)
    Another thought. I am sure the folks over at the Ships Project would have useful input, so a message on the project's talk page asking for participation on the article's talk page may give rise to some additional responses. – ukexpat (talk) 16:24, 24 June 2009 (UTC)
    Thanks for that, Ukexpat. I have put a message on the project's talk page, and I'll leave those more knowledgeable in the project to make the decision! PhantomSteve (talk) 16:53, 24 June 2009 (UTC)
    Happy to help - marking as resolved. – ukexpat (talk) 17:39, 24 June 2009 (UTC)

    Notability a must on new articles, but those with no sources are permitted?

    Hello,

    Although the instructions in WP:FIRST are fine in creating an article, very often a new article created is deleted as soon as possible, unless it meets the notability criteria + other rules and instructions.

    I'm however, wondering, that why do some pages exist which do not have any kinds of sources cited? Since if every article is required to have some show of notability in order to avoid it getting deleted, why does a huge amount of articles pass this criteria, despite of having no sources to verify the content from?

    Thanks for your time,

    ~Iceshark7 (talk) 16:41, 24 June 2009 (UTC)

    Probably because this is such a huge project that we just haven't got around to working on them yet, whether that be finding sources or nominating for deletion. – ukexpat (talk) 16:46, 24 June 2009 (UTC)
    Sources are prefered but not essential: for most new pages, however, verifiablility and notability may hinge on sources, but it isn't a absolute requirement. Sources may exist in other forms, such as external links. The fact that an article lacks sources is not usually a reason for deletion per se, it is another requirement that may rely at least partly on sources. This is my understanding. Grandiose (me, talk, contribs) 18:33, 24 June 2009 (UTC)
    Some subjects are obviously notable, such as well-known geographical locations. Everybody knows Mount Everest exists, so there is no need to assert its notability. Such an article could hang around for a long time with inadequate sources, and not necessarily get deleted, because it is obvious that sources are available and someone needs to get around to putting them in. Even fairly obscure topics can be fairly resistant to deletion when their notability is unlikely to be an issue. See for example List of crossings of the Ohio River. As the Ohio is a major waterway, every single crossing of it is a major engineering work and is undoubtedly notable. Whenever any bridge or dam gets built on a major river, there will surely be published sources about it, the bridge or dam will have a specific name, etc. As we go upstream on the tributaries, eventually the bridges get too small to have names and become less likely to be notable. If you wanted to write an article about some culvert on a tiny stream, you would have to demonstrate its notability. Similarly, an article about some obscure musical act needs to assert notability because few Misplaced Pages users will have heard of it, and the existence of reliable sources is far from certain. --Teratornis (talk) 19:52, 24 June 2009 (UTC)

    News article

    I'd like to suggest a news article for wikinews. The doctors in South Africa have been on strike since monday the 22nd on July. You can find more information on news24 or on ewn.co.za as well as other south african news websites. I don't know how to add news articles. Thanks Claudia

    This is Misplaced Pages Wikinews is over there. Algebraist 16:47, 24 June 2009 (UTC)
    Wikinews is a separate project but you can head over to their breaking news page and make your request. – ukexpat (talk) 16:54, 24 June 2009 (UTC)

    GA category question

    Which GA category would you suggest I add this article to? Aditya ß 16:48, 24 June 2009 (UTC)

    None of them really seem suitable do they? I'd say the safest bet is the Miscellaneous category, all the best Spitfire 17:42, 24 June 2009 (UTC)
    I think it's my only option. I don't see which other section the article would fit in. Aditya ß 17:58, 24 June 2009 (UTC)
    What do you mean by "category"? "Category" has a specific meaning on Misplaced Pages. Transport in India is already in several categories, and Talk:Transport in India is in several more. If you are asking where to list the article on the WP:GA page, there is a WP:GA#Transport heading. If you are asking about subcategories of Category:GA-Class articles, note that these subcategories do not contain articles, but rather article talk pages, and the categorization comes from templates. Talk:Transport in India is in Category:Engineering and technology good articles, Category:GA-Class India articles, and Category:GA-Class India articles of Top-importance, among others. --Teratornis (talk) 18:36, 24 June 2009 (UTC)
    If you are asking about subcategories of Category:Misplaced Pages good articles, look at some other good articles under WP:GA#Transport and see what categories they are in. --Teratornis (talk) 18:39, 24 June 2009 (UTC)
    Again in the case of Category:Misplaced Pages good articles, the categorization appears to come from templates on article talk pages, and Talk:Transport in India is in Category:Engineering and technology good articles already. I may not understand your question. --Teratornis (talk) 18:45, 24 June 2009 (UTC)

    I assumed the question was in relation to the categories detailed at WP:GAN, under the section "Nomination categories" Spitfire 18:47, 24 June 2009 (UTC)

    A Bot for resolved items?

    I don't know if it's possible, but would it be useful to have a bot which looks through the help areas and/or talk pages, and if it finds the {{resolved}} tag, to add in the section title, so this reflects in the Table of Contents for the page? Then at a glance, people can see what has been resolved, and won't need to look at those items! As an example, I hand coded the ones on this page, to show in the ToC which items have been resolved. PhantomSteve (talk) 18:10, 24 June 2009 (UTC)

    That's quite a good idea, I can think of one minor problem, which is that any links to that section would then be broken, but then, they would be when the page is archived anyway, and once it is resolved there would not be much need for the links Spitfire 18:49, 24 June 2009 (UTC)
    • I would consider the section link breakage problem to be a bit worse than minor, but we already have the same problem when talk pages get archived. It would be nice if the archiving bots would find all the incoming section links and fix them too.
    • How about marking the unresolved items as "Unresolved"? Then readers can search directly for those items with a Ctrl+F search. It's inefficient to throw technology at marking up the resolved items when the result is still inferior to being able to search for unresolved items directly. That's like giving someone road directions by listing all the turns they should not make, the inverse of what you really want.
    • The practice of marking questions as "resolved" is somewhat dubious. To say that something is "resolved" is to declare that no one else on the planet has anything worthwhile to add. Even if the person who asked the question considers him/herself fully satisfied with the answers thus far, a better answer might still be possible. It's hard to say when a question is "resolved", but much easier to say we really know that someone is unresolved. Something is unresolved as long as the person who asked a question isn't satisfied yet.
    These are just my opinions, which may not reflect consensus, reality, what you should do, or anything else. --Teratornis (talk) 19:07, 24 June 2009 (UTC)
    I understand what you're saying, Teratornis, but surely in that case we shouldn't have a resolved tag! If the originator feels that it's not been resolved, they can always removed the tag and comment that they aren't satisfied! PhantomSteve (talk) 19:39, 24 June 2009 (UTC)
    What is "that case" in your first sentence? I'm not sure which of my sentences you are commenting on. Let me try to clarify what I'm saying, since it may go against the way most of us have been conditioned to think about marking topics as resolved:
    • As long as the original poster feels a topic is unresolved, it would be useful to explicitly mark it as "Unresolved" so other readers can search directly for it. The original poster is fully qualified to tell us when he or she feels an issue is unresolved, and most other users would probably want to search efficiently for unresolved topics.
    • Marking topics as "Resolved" is less practically useful, because (probably) nobody wants to search for resolved topics, and nobody is qualified to declare that no further useful information is possible. At best we might know that the original poster feels satisfied with the answers thus far, but the original poster may not be in a good position to know whether those answers are the best possible answers. There is often more than one way to solve a given problem, and since the original poster doesn't know about any of those ways initially, he or she can hardly know whether the first answer that appears is the best possible answer.
    So yes, it would be fair to say that I'm having trouble understanding why we mark topics as "Resolved" when we can more confidently and more usefully mark unresolved topics as "Unresolved". "Unresolved" would indicate the original poster definitely still needs help, whereas "Resolved" at best might indicate "There is no urgent need for further comment, but we cannot rule out the possibility of additional useful comment." The "Resolved" template seems useless as a search target, so I don't really understand why we have it, when we should rather have an "Unresolved" template. Perhaps the people who thought it up didn't really think it through. If my thinking is incorrect I invite correction. Obviously, there is so much momentum in favor of using the {{Resolved}} template that I don't anticipate being able to turn that battleship around, even if it's not the best way to classify questions. I'm just pointing out some problems with our current marking custom, and showing how the elaborate fix you have in mind would not be at all necessary if people used the more logical strategy of marking unresolved questions with the searchable text "Unresolved" (which they could then remove when the first workable solution to a question appears). That way we would call readers' attention to the questions obviously in need of help, while not prematurely closing off discussion on questions that might yet admit a better answer. --Teratornis (talk) 20:20, 24 June 2009 (UTC)

    Rejected article - 'blank suggestions'

    My article 'Days of the Week according to the Hindu calendar' was rejected by reviewer as it had 'blank suggestions'. What are 'suggestions'. How do I fill these up? Bless10 (talk) 18:50, 24 June 2009 (UTC)

    You didn't submit an article, you just submitted a title with no accompanying content. If you want to write an article on the topic, go ahead and write it. If you want someone else to write it, then the place to request this is WP:RA, not WP:AFC. Algebraist 18:53, 24 June 2009 (UTC)

    Uploading an Article

    I would like to place in Misplaced Pages an article entitled What is Rothbart Proprioceptive Therapy, a therapy I invented that is known world wide. How can I do this?

    Professor Rothbart <contact details redacted> —Preceding unsigned comment added by ProfessorRothbart (talkcontribs) 19:15, 24 June 2009 (UTC)

    You may follow the instructions at WP:AFC and/or add to Proprioception, but please be aware of WP:AB.   — Jeff G. (talk|contribs) 19:38, 24 June 2009 (UTC)
    (edit conflict)
    Before creating an article, please search Misplaced Pages first to make sure that an article does not already exist on the subject. Please also review a few of our relevant policies and guidelines which all articles should comport with. As Misplaced Pages is an encyclopedia, articles must not contain original research, must be written from a neutral point of view, should cite to reliable sources which verify their content and must not contain unsourced, negative content about living people.
    Articles must also demonstrate the notability of the subject. Please see our subject specific guidelines for people, bands and musicians, companies and organizations and web content and note that if you are closely associated with the subject, our conflict of interest guideline strongly recommends against you creating the article.
    If you still think an article is appropriate, see Help:Starting a new page. You might also look at Misplaced Pages:Your first article and Misplaced Pages:How to write a great article for guidance, and please consider taking a tour through the Misplaced Pages:Tutorial so that you know how to properly format the article before creation. – ukexpat (talk) 19:41, 24 June 2009 (UTC)
    Professor Rothbart, I would just point out that Misplaced Pages is not an advertising forum for your treatment and/or publications and/or insoles. If you can present an objective, scientific article which does not just advocate buying product(s), and with verifiable citations, then following the advice above would enable your article to be created. Also the title would need to just be Rothbart Proprioceptive Therapy, without the 'What is' prefix! PhantomSteve (talk) 19:52, 24 June 2009 (UTC)

    FIFA_World_Rankings vandalism

    Someone has vandalized the http://en.wikipedia.org/FIFA_World_Rankings page. I don't edit WIKI pages, so maybe someone else can repair it. Thanks 68.112.180.25 (talk) 21:11, 24 June 2009 (UTC)

    Looks to have been fixed, and User:J.delanoy has protected the page. If you would like some information on how to revert vandalism (it really isn't hard, I encourage you to try), there's information at WP:VAND. And plenty of people happy to help. Thanks and best wishes, --TeaDrinker (talk) 21:15, 24 June 2009 (UTC)

    How can I ask for a review for a sub page?

    Resolved

    This is the URL http://en.wikipedia.org/User:Shipinoza/Sandbox I just don't know how to wikilink it. Thanks in advance! --Shipinoza (talk) 21:57, 24 June 2009 (UTC)


    You link it like this: ].
    See Misplaced Pages:Peer review. I took a quick look— don't go there yet. The article is written like an advertisement; I hope none of the text is copied from the company's website or other documentation. You need to check the image, as it is tagged for no copyright status. If you are connected to the company, please read Misplaced Pages:FAQ/Organizations. ---— Gadget850 (Ed)  22:00, 24 June 2009 (UTC)

    Thanks. --Shipinoza (talk) 22:20, 24 June 2009 (UTC)

    Adding a definition

    As a Customer Service Expert, I "coined" a new word “customertunity .” I would like to submitt this word for consideration to be added to Misplaced Pages. please provide me with the instructionto do so.

    Appreciative SB

    See Misplaced Pages:Avoid neologisms. ---— Gadget850 (Ed)  22:01, 24 June 2009 (UTC)

    Merging one's accounts

    How can I find my old account, and merge my new one into it? I just created the new one so I could edit, but I think I already had one. I couldn't find my old user name, though.

    Accounts cannot be merged. Algebraist 23:57, 24 June 2009 (UTC)

    Login unification

    I have created a unified login for different accounts such as en.wikipedia.org, en.wiktionary.org, and meta.wikimedia.org After log in, I show up as having a user page on some accounts (blue), but not others (red). Is there a way to create one user page that will be active for all accounts? Or should I create each one separately? (Seems like a waste of space.)USchick (talk) 03:15, 25 June 2009 (UTC)

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