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No problem, I was beginning to appreciate all the attention. LOL AreaControl (talk) 00:16, 24 July 2009 (UTC)

Don't bother with Doctor666.

The bot's already reported him to AiV. HalfShadow 22:20, 25 July 2009 (UTC)

• So I see, good riddance. Beeblebrox (talk) 22:21, 25 July 2009 (UTC)

RE

Cheers, I'll keep that in mind :)

Onevalefan 22:31, 25 July 2009 (UTC)

Big Brother 2009

I note that User:Darrenhusted has removed your close note on the poll at Talk:Big Brother 2009 (UK). He is also attempting to argue that the fact that the section didn't change for about 3 weeks was "consensus by silence". He also continues to harrass everyone who votes Keep at Misplaced Pages:Articles for deletion/List of Big Brother 2009 housemates (UK). I wouldn't mind, but I don't even watch the damn programme. --Elen of the Roads (talk) 10:51, 27 July 2009 (UTC)

• Well, I tried to end the madness... --Beeblebrox (talk) 16:45, 27 July 2009 (UTC)

I appreciate your efforts. Guess it'll just have to run its course.--Elen of the Roads (talk) 21:10, 27 July 2009 (UTC)

Alaska airlines

Can you please review User:RoyDickson's additions to History of aviation in Alaska? He's adding tons of names to the list, and I don't know enough about this to judge whether they're worth including or not. You also may want to review some of his new articles:

• Barnhill & McGee Airways
• Linious "Mac" McGee

rʨanaɢ /_contribs 18:22, 27 July 2009 (UTC)

• I'll take a look I guess, but frankly it's become tiresome banging my ahead against the brick wall of lack of understanding of how common and not particularly notable tiny airlines are in Alaska... Beeblebrox (talk) 18:33, 27 July 2009 (UTC)

• The user doesn't really seem to get the picture; I've had to point him to notability guidelines several times, and I don't think he's read them. Anyway, if you want you can take these to AfD, and if they are deleted that way there will be stronger ways (with consensus) to keep the user from adding more of this. rʨanaɢ /_contribs 18:41, 27 July 2009 (UTC)

Bridgerecords

As noted at UAA, use of the name to promote is clearly a violation, but if we start actioning fans we'd have to block all those people with Mac, Sony, Nike, and an immense list of other names people are fans of. Nja 17:08, 28 July 2009 (UTC)

• But since they created an article about an artist on that label, persons editing that article will probably perceive a conflict of interest. If it was "Bridgerecordsfan" I never would have reported, but the name itself implies they represent the label. Beeblebrox (talk) 17:20, 28 July 2009 (UTC)

This is getting to be a questionable way to go about things actually. Are we going to block users' editing Microsoft related, or Honda related articles with usernames that have the company name in it as it's implied they're affiliated? Note I'm not looking for you to answer necessarily, it's a problem with the current wording of the policy that I have, which I am seeking to address. Nja 19:26, 28 July 2009 (UTC)

DYK for Shanta Creek fire

On July 29, 2009, Did you know? was updated with a fact from the article Shanta Creek fire, which you created or substantially expanded. You are welcome to check how many hits your article got while on the front page (here's how) and add it to DYKSTATS if it got over 5,000. If you know of another interesting fact from a recently created article, then please suggest it on the Did you know? talk page.

Wikiproject: Did you know 12:08, 29 July 2009 (UTC)

• Over 3,000 hits! My little article is all grown up.... Beeblebrox (talk) 19:06, 30 July 2009 (UTC)

Thanks

Please accept my gratitude for your welcoming message.--Spiritual Collector Of The Moonlight (talk)

You're welcome! --Beeblebrox (talk) 22:19, 1 August 2009 (UTC)

Talk:Six degrees of Misplaced Pages/Archive 1

Sorry, I didn't think Mizabot would mind that pagename. But since it was wrong, feel free to delete. Thank you Prapsnot (talk) 22:18, 1 August 2009 (UTC)

• Hey no problem, I might have made the same mistake... Beeblebrox (talk) 22:20, 1 August 2009 (UTC)

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Hi there, BROX, VASCO here,

I am that anon editor - (http://en.wikipedia.org/User_talk:217.129.64.117) - sometimes i forgot to log in, and i also happen to have a standard IP. Regarding your reprimand, i'll only say the following: maybe it was an exaggerated summary on my part, but i did not insult that user, in no way. Also, i have been having a bad day, having discovered, after three years of fighting vandalism on WP and improving articles (esp. soccer) with my heart and soul, my user page has been for the first time, vandalized.

Please be careful with your accusations in the future, am only trying to help, sorry for any incovenience,

Have a good week, VASCO AMARAL, Portugal - --NothingButAGoodNothing (talk) 01:12, 3 August 2009 (UTC)

"you don't know how to make a good structured sentence in English, fine, but don't correct those who can!!!" is a personal attack so I'm afraid I won't be taking your advice to "be more careful" as that is the exact advice I was trying to give you. As far as your user page being vandalized goes, that has happened to me probably seven or eight times now, it's no reason to be rude to your fellow Wikipedians. In fact, many vandal fighters, myself included, take it as a "badge of honor" and an indication that you are doing something right. So, keep fighting the good fight with the vandals, but try to not to let it ruffle your feathers so much when they respond like that. They are mostly bored teenagers with limited imaginations who don't like it when their childish behavior gets reverted. Beeblebrox (talk) 01:21, 3 August 2009 (UTC)

Reverting talk

What the hell is with you reverting concerned talk by the subject of a BLP, Jay Brannan? BLP is very serious, and censoring the subject of one who has concerns about it is quite astounding. -- AvatarMN (talk) 09:35, 3 August 2009 (UTC)

• I explained it on his talk page, but basically, here's what happened:he added a remark to the talk page right as I was preparing to archive it. He did not add a new section at the bottom, but put it up in the middle of the other remarks, and did not sign it. When I scanned the page to see how old the talk was, the most recent timestamp was almost a year old, so I archived everything to make way for the new conversation I thought was yet to begin. When he mentioned that I had archived his remark right after he made it, I went back and looked and noticed my mistake, and apologized, but I deliberately did not re-post it because, like all his other posts, it was merely insults aimed at pretty much all Misplaced Pages editors and no specific information about what was wrong with the article. As you can see from his talk page and the article talk page, I tried again and again to get him to identify what the problem is with the article, and he refused to do so. Another user Zhang He, complicated the situation by blindly reverting anything Jay posted, unfortunately contributing to the illusion that there was deliberate "conspiracy" against Jay. So, do whatever you like, undo the archiving, keep going around in endless circles asking him to be more specific, whatever, I really don't care about that page or that user anymore. To summarize, there was no deliberate "censorship" on my part and as far as I can tell there is not a legitimate BLP violation either. Good luck with that. Beeblebrox (talk) 16:37, 3 August 2009 (UTC)

Now that I found the conversation on his user talk page, I understand that you removed his new comment by mistake when you archived. But you should have put it back when you de-archived. He's not savvy about Misplaced Pages, and has had a frustrating experience with being reverted in the article (properly, bu the doesn't understand), so obviously reverting even his speech where he finally tries to talk about it is going to make him think that everyone's against him. He's tried editing the article and not gotten what he wanted, so he tries discussing, and you and Zhang He delete even his discussion. I don't much blame him for thinking that it'd be no use to be specific about what's wrong, because his experience is that someone will delete even his contributions to the talk page. -- AvatarMN (talk) 18:16, 3 August 2009 (UTC)

• Like I said, put it back if you think it will actually help, I've washed my hands of this affair after absorbing too much of his verbal abuse. Beeblebrox (talk) 04:55, 4 August 2009 (UTC)

I think your poor editing choice contributed to putting him in an emotional state where he became abusive. I'd have been spitting nails if I tried to vent about my own BLP and people didn't even let me do that. Now he seems to have split, so it's too late. -- AvatarMN (talk) 09:25, 4 August 2009 (UTC)

Wrong. I was right to revert his edits to the article, they were his own unsourced criticisms of Misplaced Pages, utterly inappropriate for an article. My actual editing of the article was did not involve any "poor editing choices" and I think Jay and myself can split the blame for the minor error on the talk age, which again, did nothing but accidently remove his misplaced unsigned insults. After his personal commentary was removed from the article he was extremely unhelpful and rude as can plainly be seen if you look beyond being star struck by him and actually look at what he said and did. He's gone? You won't see me shedding any tears. Beeblebrox (talk) 15:55, 4 August 2009 (UTC)

I plainly said above that the article was reverted properly. He came already mad, but then you and Zhang He reverted even his talk, which was flawed because he's not Wiki savvy, and by doing that you convinced him he was right about Misplaced Pages editors and that to participate further would be pointless. If that hadn't been done, he might have been in a state of mind that made the situation more productive. I'm not saying it was all your fault, but if you don't regret how it turned out, I think that reflects incredibly badly on you. -- AvatarMN (talk) 09:05, 5 August 2009 (UTC)

As you said, he came already mad, and nothing but the immediate deletion of the article would satisfy him, and he was incredibly rude. We call that trolling, no matter who it comes from, and Misplaced Pages is better off without it. Further discussion of this will serve no purpose. Beeblebrox (talk) 16:55, 5 August 2009 (UTC)

He attempted to start a section that stated that the subject of the article has issues with the article's accuracy, so I don't think he'd have only been satisfied with deletion. Tagging articles with dispute notices is far from trolling, so... The guy just doesn't really know how to use Misplaced Pages, and so his edits get reverted. So he gets a persecution complex and thinks other editors won't let him do anything, and then two editors don't even let him talk about it. Maybe he wouldn't have been reasonable even if he hadn't been shushed, but there was an opportunity here to show him that Wikipedians are not what he thinks, and boy howdy did that not happen. -- AvatarMN (talk) 17:47, 5 August 2009 (UTC)

• How many different ways do I have to say it? I don't care and I don't see any point in continuing to discuss this. By the way, I was the one who put the NPOV tag on the article and I only removed it when he wouldn't identify the problem. Do whatever you like with this user and his article, leave me out of it. Beeblebrox (talk) 18:31, 5 August 2009 (UTC)

If you don't care about this, Misplaced Pages would be better off without you. Sociopath. -- AvatarMN (talk) 08:41, 6 August 2009 (UTC)

Thanks

Thanks for the welcome message. Regards, Leggette (talk) 07:30, 4 August 2009 (UTC)

• You're welcome! Beeblebrox (talk) 21:49, 4 August 2009 (UTC)

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