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Revision as of 14:11, 9 December 2005

Alphabetical arrangement

Why are the provinces in this article arranged by traffic plates, rather than alphabetically? -- llywrch 23:40, 4 Apr 2004 (UTC)

Fixed?

City/Town/Village (place name) disambiguation

There doesn't seem to be a standard here yet for local places. Some use "X, Turkey" to differentiate only from other countries. But there are multiple place names in various provinces. Could somebody give guidance as to local practice?

Noticing that "X, Turkey" form, I chose "X, P" without the trailing "Province", guessing that might be the way that surface mail is addressed (as it is in some nearby Balkans), and trying to conform to local practice. But it's not pretty as the article title.

Would "X, P Province" be better?

Or "X, P Province, Turkey"?

Or take advantage of the pipe hack: "X (P Province, Turkey)"? (Prettiest from the point of view of both naming articles and editting.)

Specifically, so far, Kozan, Adana (stub), Mut, Adana (doesn't yet exist). William Allen Simpson 13:33, 5 December 2005 (UTC)

I'm not sure what you mean by the letter P in your examples, but you know, this is a very good question. The standard for the doing this on Turkish Misplaced Pages seems to be "City, Province" if the city is not the same as the province. For cities that ARE the same name as provinces (iller), they distinguish between the city, calling it "center" merkez, or they will call it "province" il, for example Ankara (merkez).

I hardly think this is a good example to follow for English Misplaced Pages, where the standard seems to show that the city name should be used if it is well known in the Western World, for example see Tarsus will give you a disambig page, where you can choose Tarsus (city). Tarsus is not a province itself, and it is actually one of the largest cities in Turkey that does not have its own province; it is attached to Mersin. My best guess would be to follow the English that says to just name the city if there is no ambiguity about the name. If there is another city in the world with the same name, then calling it City, Turkey, would be best, and if there are more examples of such cities in Turkey, then City, Province, Turkey would be appropriate.

Thanks for bringing up the concern, it made me think a bit.

Karma Heretic 16:39, 7 December 2005 (UTC)

agree with Karma. But in some countries they avoid things like Ankara, Turkey and allways use the state/province name to disambig. In Latin American countries lots of places even within countries have the same name. So X, Countryname does not help much. Instead X, Statename is used. Tobias Conradi (Talk) 23:22, 8 December 2005 (UTC)

• I have only recently discovered that Tobias Conradi is on a jihad to make every country's entries conform to his one-size-fits-all uniform template. I was asking the best thing to do for this country, based on local practices. Thank you for information about the Turkish Misplaced Pages.

William Allen Simpson 12:49, 9 December 2005 (UTC)

• • are you a sock-puppet? you are in WP since 2005-11-15 but very agressive in your attitude. Tobias Conradi (Talk) 14:11, 9 December 2005 (UTC)