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fg source

regarding sources from tweets. They seem legit as long as the twitter account is authorized, and ive read over the sources page again and as long as its not about a living person or is the basis for an article a tweet seems like a valid source.... Grande13 (talk) 21:23, 20 August 2009 (UTC)

Show me exactly where it says you can't use twitter? It says not to use it to create articles, which this isnt doing... and not to ues it if its about a living person or is the basis for an article a tweet seems like a valid source. In this case its only a date, and its confirmed by the creator and producer on their pages. Its fine to use and once more info becomes available on the subject it can be added to the articleGrande13 (talk) 16:59, 26 August 2009 (UTC)

it doesnt say it cant be used there...Self-published sources should never be used as third-party sources about living persons, even if the author is a well-known professional researcher or writer.

This isnt an instance about that... Self-published material may, in some circumstances, be acceptable when produced by an established expert on the topic of the article...the creator and producers can be deemed experts and there are numerous info available about them twitting http://celebswhotwitter.com/tag/seth-macfarlane so you still havent proven when a date and upcoming episode ideas from that source cant be used...again we arent using the info to create an article, its just adding to an articleGrande13 (talk) 03:03, 27 August 2009 (UTC)

ign might be more reliable, but there is nothing that says twitter can't be reliable as well. Once ign or some other publication has the info the link can be updated, but there is no reason why a date and a line or two about hd cant be sourced from twitter... Its not like the info is used to create an article for the 2010 season premiere as its just a brief mention. Im in agreement twitter by itself wouldnt be enough to create the page now for the whodunit episode, but as the format is now its fineGrande13 (talk) 03:35, 27 August 2009 (UTC)

I put it on the project page. If there are no complaints I'll change it back in a few days Grande13 (talk) 13:00, 27 August 2009 (UTC)

the page has undergone numerous edits with random people filling in whatever dates they piece together. its valid info and its use is acceptable for the context of the information on wikipedia. Not one really had a strong opionion about it one way or another, but it IMPROVES the article, so why are you fighting against that.... Grande13 (talk) 04:16, 1 September 2009 (UTC)

the official seth Macfarlane account that has been confirmed in articles mentions its the producer Kara Vallow. Also, when her official web page was up (its under construction now), it linked to her twitter account. Twitter might not work as a general source for articles, but it can be used to provide small details such as dates to fill in and improve a page, although im aware its not enough to generate a whole page of info by itself. Grande13 (talk) 12:44, 1 September 2009 (UTC)

jp07

taake a look

i have been working on family guy with a buddy of mine(you know him Bovineboy2008, mostly he has cleaned up and i have deleted spaces with no good refrences.) and if you could check it out, and tell me on what it could be expanded or cleaned, could you tell me, thanks.--Pedro J. 04:02, 25 August 2009 (UTC)

Those buddy tv an unreliable sourece. --Pedro J. 21:06, 25 August 2009 (UTC)

And if there is no option but the video. --Pedro J. 21:45, 25 August 2009 (UTC)

I do not know if it's fully ready but we have done a good job to my concern would you check it out. --Pedro J. 15:19, 27 August 2009 (UTC)

Family guy characters are far to be ready. --Pedro J. 21:00, 27 August 2009 (UTC)

is it understandable now. --Pedro J. 21:32, 27 August 2009 (UTC)

yeah you are probaly right, it did have OR, and i was just saying that quahog reacted wierd when there was a athiest in the city and that the city has wierd laws but also kind of true like band gay marrige in many states of the U.S, (or is it over). and Bovinboy is takeing a break from Family guy he left me editing for a coupole of days, no he has not said anything about it is ready for GA, and i wanted to know how could expanded a bit more so when Bovin edits where closer from makeing it GA , and your ne of the most family guy editors i know so i asked you. --Pedro J. 22:03, 27 August 2009 (UTC)

and Bovin has helped a lot, he has cleaned up the page, he founed new refrences he moved the pictures. he did a lot.--Pedro J. 22:14, 27 August 2009 (UTC)

Sorry for the stres i'm correcting that now.--Pedro J. 15:03, 28 August 2009 (UTC)

and word is just correcting my spelling not the grammer. --Pedro J. 15:09, 28 August 2009 (UTC)

I have word 2007 so i guess so i'll take a look. --Pedro J. 17:52, 28 August 2009 (UTC)

remember when bovine, you and me dissued about a gallery, wll do you think that is a good idea. --Pedro J. 17:52, 28 August 2009 (UTC)

Yes, the gallary of FG like on the simpsons. --Pedro J. 15:39, 29 August 2009 (UTC)

In the disscusion you and me liked the idea, but bovineboy did not, so we decided not to but i asked another editor for some help Music26/11 and when he was editing he put that back, but as well Bovineboy did not like it, so asking your opinion, do you think it should go there, is it a good, idea. --Pedro J. 17:27, 29 August 2009 (UTC)

Not so sure why, maby he did not like what it looked like, here Talk:Family Guy#Cast member pictures it was where the disscusions took place. --Pedro J. 17:34, 29 August 2009 (UTC)

re: GA status Iowa

Be glad to help where I can moving the Iowa article to GA status. Been concentrating on getting random Iowa articles geocoded lately, but willing to work on other things as well. Most familiar with central and southwest Iowa. Also have access to the Iowa History Center at Simpson College for reference material. Let me know what help you need. GrandpaDave (talk) 01:31, 28 August 2009 (UTC)

On the geocoding for Eastern Iowa CC, I just put each of the 3 campuses geo coordinates inline. I added the street addresses for them as well. The area codes are a bit more problematic. The general sense on the geocoding project is to center mass the point and make it a very broad coordinate. Something like 42 degree N, 93 degrees W. Have been holding off on the Area Codes until I get a better idea. Some of the similar conditions are earthquakes, and geographical features like Coteau des Prairies, etc. Anyway, the missing geocode count is down to under 40 from 309 when I started. GrandpaDave (talk) 21:00, 2 September 2009 (UTC)

Talkback

I' 01:16, 29 August 2009 (UTC)

What do you think? I've finished with the production, and a bit of the cultural references :) Cheers, I' 17:19, 29 August 2009 (UTC)

And done. Feel free to add anything (P.S. the spacing with the references in the Production section might be a bit off; I was typing it as I heard it :D) Cheers, I' 19:09, 30 August 2009 (UTC)

Whoops, you're right; I've removed it now, and co-nominated it at WP:GAN. Hope it does well! Cheers, I' 00:31, 31 August 2009 (UTC)

Hmm...Waylon Smithers is already a GA, and I'm not exactly a Family Guy sorta person. How about another of the characters at DOH? Or, even better, The Simpsons (season 10)? I'm hoping to get season 10 to FL soon ;P Cheers, I' 12:00, 31 August 2009 (UTC)

Uh-oh...Get ready to (copy)edit your ass out at Brother, Can You Spare Two Dimes?. The GA review's coming up...Cheers, I' 21:46, 31 August 2009 (UTC)

Forts o' Iowa Edits

Below are some changes to Des Moines for your consideration. Thanks! Bill Whittaker (talk) 13:16, 31 August 2009 (UTC)

Prehistory

Prehistoric inhabitants of early Des Moines

The juncture of the Des Moines and Raccoon rivers has attracted humans for at least 3,000 years. Several prehistoric occupation areas have been identified in downtown Des Moines by archaeologists. At least three Late Prehistoric villages stood in Des Moines, dating from about A.D. 1300 to 1700. In addition, 15 to 18 prehistoric American Indian mounds were observed in downtown Des Moines by early settlers. All have been destroyed.

History

Origin of Fort Des Moines

The City of Des Moines traces its origins to May 1843, when Captain James Allen supervised the construction of a fort on the site where the Des Moines and Raccoon Rivers merge. Allen wanted to use the name Fort Raccoon; however, the U.S. War Department told him to name it Fort Des Moines. The fort was built to control the Sauk and Meskwaki Indians, who had been transplanted to the area from their traditional lands in eastern Iowa. The fort was abandoned in 1846 after the Sauk and Meskwaki were removed from the state. The Sauk and Meskwaki did not fare well in Des Moines, the illegal whiskey trade, combined with the destruction of traditional lifeways, led to severe problems. One newspaper reported: “It is a fact that the location of Fort Des Moines among the Sac and Fox Indians (under its present commander) for the last two years, had corrupted them more and lowered them deeper in the scale of vice and degradation, than all their intercourse with the whites for the ten years previous.” Even after official removal, the Meskwaki continued to return to Des Moines until ca. 1857. Archaeological excavations have demonstrated that many fort-related features survived under what is now Martin Luther King, Jr. Parkway and First Street. Soldiers stationed at Fort Des Moines opened the first coal mines in the area, mining coal from the riverbank for the fort's blacksmith.

-END OF EDITS- Thanks! Bill Whittaker (talk) 13:16, 31 August 2009 (UTC)

Iowa GA?

Isn't there a checklist or something? I've been out of the loop. Thanks, Bill Whittaker (talk) 20:21, 31 August 2009 (UTC)

Another Fo'I

In Dakota War of 1862 could you please add to the end of the War section:

Iowa Northern Border Brigade

In Iowa, alarm over the Santee attacks led to the construction of a line of forts from Sioux City to Iowa Lake. The region had already been militarized because of the Spirit Lake Massacre in 1857, and after the 1862 conflict began the Iowa legislature authorized “not less than 500 mounted men from the frontier counties at the earliest possible moment, and to be stationed where most needed”, although this number was soon reduced. Although no fighting took place in Iowa, the Dakota uprising led to the rapid expulsion of the few unassimilated Native Americans left in Iowa.

Thanks!Bill Whittaker (talk) 01:02, 1 September 2009 (UTC)

Thanks again! Bill Whittaker (talk) 12:55, 1 September 2009 (UTC)

Something Dark Side.

I'm sorry, it may just be me, perhaps I'm sadly going through a little bit of WP:OWN, but I honestly am just asking, from one editor to another, do you think my additions/reversions on the article are correct? --HELLØ ŦHERE 04:59, 1 September 2009 (UTC)

Yeah, I agree for the most part, but it's not a good idea to get into an edit war. I mean, whether it's for good reason or not, it's just bad overall for both parties. I think it all needs to be taken to the FG Project. I took a previous "disagreement" there and it seemed people liked mine better. But I just don't wanna step on anyone's toes, I'm just trying to make it better for people who may just happen to hear about something, look it up, find the Misplaced Pages page, and read it. I do that still for things I'm not necessarily 'watching'. And I expect that other editors are improving those pages to their best. It has to be a collaboration, not just some versus others. Perhaps we should try to talk to them or get a huge discussion going on the FG Project talk page. But thanks for your opinion. Sorry to ramble like that. --HELLØ ŦHERE 06:50, 1 September 2009 (UTC)

Family Guy

Hey there Ctjf. I just want to let you know that I am pretty much done editing Family Guy for now. It may be appropriate to do a peer review now but just wanted to let you have a crack at anything. It still is missing a positive reception section, but I can't really find anything positive that has been written other than off-handed comments about it being funny. BOVINEBOY2008 :) 18:23, 3 September 2009 (UTC)

Yes i checked it and it seems alright to me, looks too me that it's done. --Pedro J. 20:42, 3 September 2009 (UTC)

It's not Pedro, so hang on CTJF83Talk 20:44, 3 September 2009 (UTC)

Looks like you have offended someone

Read the story, here. –túrian 04:30, 6 September 2009 (UTC)

1. Modified from Newsletter of the Iowa Archeological Society 58(1):8
2. Schoen, Christopher M. (2005) A Point of Land and Prehistoric Peoples. Iowa Heritage Illustrated 86(1): 8–9.
3. ^ Whittaker, William E. (2008). "Prehistoric and Historic Indians in Downtown Des Moines". Newsletter of the Iowa Archeological Society. 58 (1): 8–10.
4. ^ Schoen, Christopher M. (2009). "Fort Des Moines No. 2, 1843-1846". In William E. Whittaker (ed.). Frontier Forts of Iowa: Indians, Traders, and Soldiers, 1682–1862. Iowa City: University of Iowa Press. pp. 161–177. ISBN 978-1-58729-831-8. {{cite book}}: Unknown parameter |coauthors= ignored (|author= suggested) (help)
5. Mather, David and Ginalie Swaim (2005)The Heart of the Best Part: Fort Des Moines No. 2 and the Archaeology of a City. Iowa Heritage Illustrated 86(1):12–21.
6. James H. Lees, History of Coal Mining in Iowa, Chapter III of Annual Report, 1908, Iowa Geological Survey, 1909, page 566.
7. Rogers, Leah D. (2009). "Fort Madison, 1808-1813". In William E. Whittaker (ed.). Frontier Forts of Iowa: Indians, Traders, and Soldiers, 1682–1862. Iowa City: University of Iowa Press. pp. 193–206. ISBN 978-1-58729-831-8.
8. McKusick, Marshall B. (1975). The Iowa Northern Border Brigade. Iowa City, Iowa: Office of the State Archaeologist, The University of Iowa.