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== Sorry for interrupting, but I ask for punishment for my conduct of 3RRs and attack against Paul Siebert ==

I did not know the 3RRs until later informed. Yet, I will take full responsibilities of my conduct. I learned that you are an admin, so that I strongly ask for a punishment for violation of 3RRs. Page:
http://en.wikipedia.org/search/?title=Eastern_Front_(World_War_II)&action=history

As for the attack against user Paul Siebert, frankly speaking, I knew I was using bad languages( that means, I was fully aware of attacking ) though I deleted these words later. But imo he was quite annoying in that case regarding his tactics. Anyway I indeed attacked him over the dispute. Here, I strongly ask for punishment also for this conduct. Page: http://en.wikipedia.org/User_talk%3aPaul_Siebert?diff=315431223

The user Paul Siebert is generous in that he himself would not launch a report against my violation of 3RRs and attack. But, it is my concrete principle that when one does sth wrong, then he receives a punishment, so I hope in this case you can help me with it.

Lastly, sorry for troubling you here, but as of this moment it is a bit confusing to me to go through all the official formats to make a formal request for punishment. To timely tackle with the current issue, I forward my proposal here.

Thank you.

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Rules for reciting Amen in Judaism

I have transwikied the unique information from this article to Berakhah. This makes the article Rules for reciting Amen in Judaism an orphan with no rationale (that i can think of) for its ongoing existence. As you are its author, please nominate it for Speedy Deletion. Hanina (talk) 20:57, 19 March 2009 (UTC)

It may as well be a redirect. As a redirect it's doing no harm. I'll make Amen point to Berakhah. DJ Clayworth (talk) 21:19, 19 March 2009 (UTC)

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Mis-translation Holy Spirit

Would you please take a look on the Holy Spirit talk page and give me an answer. I seem to remember you were familar with this stuff. Please reply Kazuba (talk) 00:47, 24 March 2009 (UTC)

Thanks for answering my question. I'll guess I'll have to trust your answer because I cannot read ancient Greek. ( A lazy boundary) Got another question though that has been gnawing on me for some time. You can put the answer on my talk page if you feel like answering. For as long as I can remember I have heard all these arguments dealing with the resurrection of Jesus, but no one ever says anything about Jesus flying away, the ascension. Why doesn't the ascension count? I have to say watching someone fly away is very unusual and instead of this incident being recorded in all the gospels it only appears in one. Is it because the listener of the story has already accepted flying around as perfectly normal(Jesus flying around with Satan during the temptations to all those different high places.) Or is it because no one cares where Jesus finally ends up because the reality of the resurrection is the only thing that REALLY COUNTS. Please reply.Kazuba (talk) 23:45, 24 March 2009 (UTC)

Thanks for the immediate reply. I guess I agree with you. But I still find the ascension very odd, especially since it only occurs in Luke which supposedly is a later Gopsel. (and no one debates about it as being a historical event.) The other Gospels just leave you hanging in space as to what did Jesus do for the rest of his life. Perhaps that is why the story of the ascension is there at all. To tie up loose ends. But it certainly takes Luke's version of the Jesus story out of history and places it deeply into a developing theological mythology. Luke seems to have a special thing for angels and the realm of God existing in the sky. It is interesting that my grand child said my deceased wife was looking down from a cloud and she has not had any religious education at all. Perhaps it is due to the feeling of wonder one gets when looking up into the "heavens", especially on a clear night. Thanks again. Kazuba (talk) 17:51, 25 March 2009 (UTC)


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Reference desk crowd control

Thanks for breaking up a potential riot. Phil_burnstein (talk) 14:28, 1 May 2009 (UTC)

You're welcome. It's easy to get sucked into something like that. DJ Clayworth (talk) 15:11, 1 May 2009 (UTC)

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Anchor Bible

DJ -- thanks for your note. After looking it up it appears that I confused the Anchor Bible commentaries with the Anchor Bible. While the commentaries are well done (and do contain full translations), the Anchor Bible is something incomplete. I own some of the commentaries but not the "Anchor Bible" that the original editor had in mind. Good catch. EGMichaels (talk) 13:57, 11 May 2009 (UTC)

No problem. I made that mistake myself at first. DJ Clayworth (talk) 15:24, 11 May 2009 (UTC)

Just wanted to say, it's a pleasure working with you. The give and take makes the article (and us) better. Thanks.EGMichaels (talk) 21:42, 11 May 2009 (UTC)

You're welcome. The pleasure is equally mine. DJ Clayworth (talk) 03:10, 12 May 2009 (UTC)

Holy Spirit

We would be grateful if you would discuss wholesale removals of well-referenced sections from articles before doing so, please. That article is in the middle of a rewrite, and being actively discussed. DJ Clayworth (talk) 14:12, 15 May 2009 (UTC)

Even if you can re-write it, I don't think it would be a bad idea to have an entry on gender of the Holy Spirit or religious views on the Holy Spirit. The first one is about a modern theological debate, while the second one is a useful article on comparative religion. ADM (talk) 14:24, 15 May 2009 (UTC)
Taking this conversation to Talk:Holy Spirit. DJ Clayworth (talk) 14:32, 15 May 2009 (UTC)

Kyiv

Thank you for your message and your opinion regarding the name. Please provide me with the information explaining what kind of evidence is required to demonstrate that the usage of the word is wide enough to be changed on Misplaced Pages. What exactly do you mean by "when this change occurs" and who has the competence to state this? Is the usage of the word by newspapers like Canadian Globe and Mail as well as several governmental institutions (UK and USA governments in particular) enough of a prove that the change is occurring? Check out the CIA world factbook website Andriy155 (talk) 22:16, 19 May 2009 (UTC)

Reply to this at User talk:Andriy155. DJ Clayworth (talk) 13:19, 20 May 2009 (UTC)

Redcastle United

Here i go again. My page have been deleted for an A7. Texas android mentioned this with jargon that makes no sense to me. I hope you can tell me in plain english what am i missing that will not result in a deletion. I have this page connected to the league page (i.e Inishowen Football League) which always had a space for my club Redcastle united. Only one club Clonmany Shamrocks have a article filled in and to be honest i cannot see anything in there that would prevent it from being deleted that i did not have in mine. So please take a look at my article before being so quick in deleting something. As i said plain english we dont all have degrees in rocket science.

Reply at User talk:Redcastle01. DJ Clayworth (talk) 17:59, 20 May 2009 (UTC)

Redcastle United

In response to your message i find it funny that the club i mentioned earlier Clonmany Shamrocks have achieved no more than Redcastle United. We play in the same division and just this weekend we won the league ahead of that team. And Clonmany have won nothing of notability so for them to have a page allowed on here makes no sense if my ametuer team has won more than them in the last 4 years. There is a link to the league page under the Wiki page Inishowen football league that will provide proof that Redcastle have won something this week but having to win something to get information of a particular amateur club on here is a silly policy. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Redcastle01 (talkcontribs) 18:13, 20 May 2009 (UTC)


Reply at User talk:Redcastle01. DJ Clayworth (talk) 17:59, 20 May 2009 (UTC)

Jesse Lee (singer)

Wow, you're quick. The article wasn't even a couple minutes old when you listed it at afd. Anyway, I voiced my opinion at the deletion discussion. Ten Pound Hammer, his otters and a clue-bat • 17:21, 26 May 2009 (UTC)

  • By the way, it's probably not a good idea to AFD something that's only a minute old, either. Ten Pound Hammer, his otters and a clue-bat • 17:30, 26 May 2009 (UTC)
    Apparently "DJ Clayworth" enjoys deleting other people's contributions for some reason. He even makes up his own rules and pretends they are in the official WP guidelines. He tried to tell me that there is a "mainstream media attention" requirement. (See Talk: Patentlyo (blog)). He also accused me of sock-puppetry. This guy is a real piece of work.--Patent Lawyer 001 (talk) 22:52, 28 May 2009 (UTC)

Unprofessional

I submit that it was very unprofessional for you to go to Misplaced Pages:Articles for deletion/List of LSAT Instruction Providers and recommend deletion of my article based on your personal bias against me after your attempt to delete my other contribution Patentlyo (blog). Clearly you have contributed a lot to WP, but you can also let others contribute. And following me around WP with a vendetta is childish and unprofessional. But frankly, I'm not surprised.--Patent Lawyer 001 (talk) 22:35, 28 May 2009 (UTC)

Sikh Extremism and the terrorist apologists

Hi, I have been trying to improve the article on Sikh Extremism, unfortunately I have come across some very poor editing and even heavy deletions from certain people who wish not to have this article on Misplaced Pages!! I don't know if you remember, me Satanoid, I lost my password, so log in as Morbid Fairy. I have had a campaign have me banned the sikh-extremist fringe because of exposure i.e from those who wish to have the article removed. The two users watering down the article are mainly Sineed and to some extent Sikh-History (who has already had one warning recently).

The same old excuses are being used, i.e all the media such as the New York Times or the BBC or CNN is biased against terrorists, and after the recent murder attacks reported in the Austrian Times in Vienna, some seem to want to brush this under the carpet (fast). I hope you can help on this article as you kindly did so before, thank you

http://austriantimes.at/index.php?id=13609 http://www.satp.org/satporgtp/countries/india/states/punjab/terrorist_outfits/ISYF.htm Morbid Fairy (talk) 16:45, 31 May 2009 (UTC)

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Can you protect Alec Williams

This has been recreated four or five3 times enough is enough. Hell in a Bucket (talk) 14:48, 9 June 2009 (UTC)

It's all one user. I'll give him one more warning and then block him. DJ Clayworth (talk) 14:49, 9 June 2009 (UTC)

Burks Falls

DJ Clayworth, regarding what you said about the Statscan pages, you are wrong. I am not making assumptions about other ethnicities, because Statscan differentiates between white, aboriginal, and other (visible minorities). —Preceding unsigned comment added by 99.230.163.202 (talk) 02:24, 10 June 2009 (UTC)

My mistake, I found the ethnicity info, so I've reverted my removal. However you might like to think of other ways of portraying that information. DJ Clayworth (talk) 13:32, 10 June 2009 (UTC)



RuneScape Fansites

I'd like to request an edit of the Misplaced Pages page of the game RuneScape (http://en.wikipedia.org/RuneScape). I've realized that only three fansites are listed at the bottom of the page, however being a fansite staff myself, I am positive that 4 more should be mentioned. Mainly because those 7 are the longest existing fansites for RuneScape - there are even yearly inter-site wars that are being held, called "Multi Site Steel War". These fansites would be the following:


- RuneScape Bits & Bytes - http://www.rsbandb.com/ <- especially famous for it's calculators

- RuneVillage - http://www.runevillage.com/ <- where I'm staff at... used to be in the top 3, famous for its community, but had a crash 2 years ago. Soon to have a large website update.

- Rune Crypt - http://www.runecrypt.com/

- Sal's Realm of RuneScape - http://runescape.salmoneus.net/


Also, you you might want to add that since JaGeX got a new CEO (Source:http://news.runescape.com/newsitem.ws?id=1648), they've started cooperating with users, clans and fansites more. They did contact us too (at RuneVillage.com) to ask for suggestions and did also provide us with interesting unpublished material, which is somehow a proof I guess? Lastely, they've created a RuneScape fansite on facebook, and gave us major fansites permission to announce our events and share our pictures on that page, which you will find here: http://www.facebook.com/home.php#/pages/RuneScape/59261801728?id=59261801728&v=photos&sb=0.

THANK YOU IN ADVANCE! :)

EthemD (talk) 11 June 2009 (UTC)

This is a discussion to have at Talk:RuneScape. I suggest putting your comments on that page. DJ Clayworth (talk) 13:54, 11 June 2009 (UTC)

Voltron game page deleted

Hi DJ Clayworth.. I wanted to know why you deleted the page I created on the Voltron game.. It mentioned "notability" but that seems a subjective term. I tried to conform to the Misplaced Pages guidelines and format as much as possible. Please help explain to me how to view / continue creating this page again. Pazzmanmusic (talk) 15:22, 11 June 2009 (UTC)

Reply at User talk:Pazzmanmusic. DJ Clayworth (talk) 15:24, 11 June 2009 (UTC)



Thank you for the information. If I am able to provide notable, verifiable, information will that validate the page, and allow for its existance? I do not have a source handy now, but think I have seen one. Will I be able to retrieve the work I did on the page in the future so I can complete it with the guidelines you wrote about? Pazzmanmusic (talk) 16:52, 11 June 2009 (UTC)

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Karl Wilkes

I didn't notice that you had turned the other article into a redirect. For a second there, I thought I was in re-direct hell. ;) My apologies. -t'shael 14:09, 12 June 2009 (UTC)

No problem. Fixed it. It happens to us all. DJ Clayworth (talk) 14:11, 12 June 2009 (UTC)


I Heart Cash: School Edition

Why was my page deleted? It's a role playing game, and there's actually other games on wikipedia, but why aren't they deleted, and mine is?

http://en.wikipedia.org/User:MB_Games

All those games are online games, like mine. Can you please put my page back? --Mysteryboy123 (talk) 18:30, 17 June 2009 (UTC)Mysterboy123

Reply at User talk:Mysteryboy123. DJ Clayworth (talk) 18:32, 17 June 2009 (UTC)

D-Day (disambiguation)

So I guess that one item was all that was wrong with it?

I knew I should have handled Roommates (2006 film) better. I figured why redirect, but then in this case I had to.Vchimpanzee · talk · contributions · 19:32, 19 June 2009 (UTC)

Oh, now I see. There were two films. The 2006 one looks like it hardly deserves an article. If not for the infobox, it wouldn't even be worth keeping.Vchimpanzee · talk · contributions · 19:35, 19 June 2009 (UTC)

Hello DJ Clayworth

Dear DJ, may I ask you why you exchanged the name of the original inventor of the Capri pants with a fictitious name? You seem to be a very serious editor, therefore I don't understand that you called one of the most respected European designers "homosexual designer". Please let me know and thanks (for your information I am an European history professor)--RoboRay (talk) 00:05, 23 June 2009 (UTC) --RoboRay (talk) 01:09, 23 June 2009 (UTC)

Sorry, a mistake in the editing process there. (And I didn't call anyone 'homosexual', I undid that change). Thanks for fixing. DJ Clayworth (talk) 13:54, 23 June 2009 (UTC)

Girl scout council of the nation's capital

Dude, I was trying to stubbify it. Bearian (talk) 15:42, 23 June 2009 (UTC)

Dude, it was a copyright infringement. Copyright infringements should be deleted if at all possible to remove them from the edit history. I would have no objection if you were to create a stub. Note however that the article name should have "Washington DC" rather than "the nation's capital" in the title, to pacify those pesky people who live in other nations. DJ Clayworth (talk) 15:44, 23 June 2009 (UTC)

Redirect

I just made a redirect for BLANKING IN PROGRESS to User:Samuel Blanning/Blanking. I just think that should be a blue link, since a lot of people usually try to link to it (it's kind of a meme on 4chan and Encyclopedia Dramatica). --Sushi654 (talk) 18:08, 26 June 2009 (UTC)

Internet memes don't always make good articles. In any case, if this is a tool for assisting with Misplaced Pages editing it belongs in Misplaced Pages space, not the article space. I would suggest discussion before creating it anyway. DJ Clayworth (talk) 18:16, 26 June 2009 (UTC)

You Deleted My Page

You shouldn't have deleted my page. It's valid and not a hoax. Please put the content back. You could have contacted me before destroying my information. unsigned contribution by User:WebFGuy

The subject of your page got precisely two Google hits. Please don't waste our time. DJ Clayworth (talk) 21:21, 26 June 2009 (UTC)

Taiwan / Republic of China

Please note that the convention for the usage of the common term "Taiwan" and the formal term "Republic of China" is to use "Republic of China" in the context of state functions such as politics, military, government, etc.. When referring to the cultural region, territory, island and/or location in a non-state, non-government context, the more common name "Taiwan" is used. Marc87 appears to be attempting to push a POV by attempting to eliminate usages of the term "Taiwan" in its common and conventional usage as by most English speakers familiar with the area. Readin (talk) 22:51, 26 June 2009 (UTC)

I disagree with your reading of the naming convention. Full reply at User talk:Readin. DJ Clayworth (talk) 16:18, 27 June 2009 (UTC)
How about we all talk in one place? Please see Talk:Taiwan_Major_League#Taiwan_vs._ROC. Readin (talk) 15:33, 28 June 2009 (UTC)
Sounds good. DJ Clayworth (talk) 15:36, 28 June 2009 (UTC)

Hardy Boys

Do not delete the end of the lead again. Per WP:LEAD, all content of the article must be summarized in the lead. This is not one editor's opinion; it is information cited to multiple sources. Please read WP:FA and WP:RS. Ricardiana (talk) 17:43, 1 July 2009 (UTC)

Actually I removed what appeared to be vandalism back to a version before the article was made main. Sorry if I took more stuff away than was necessary. DJ Clayworth (talk) 21:43, 1 July 2009 (UTC)

MVDIT TECH BOOK

I would still salt the article. He waits weeks or even months between posting it again. A 55-hour block probably won't stop him. Oops - missed the part about expanding it to one year. That might do the trick, but I'd still salt. - Realkyhick (Talk to me) 14:35, 7 July 2009 (UTC)

I dislike salting. If for some reason this journal of his ever becomes genuinely noteworthy someone will wonder why we did it. However if it's created again I will absolutely salt it, as well as blocking the creator in perpetuity. It's not like an article titled in all-caps is going to get past the RC patrol. Let me know if you see it again. DJ Clayworth (talk) 14:57, 7 July 2009 (UTC)

turtles all the way down

Hi,
I generally agree with your removal of "less notable" references from this article. However I am wondering if you'd mind if I restored the reference to

I know it's frivolous, but when this was posted a month ago I thought it was a great addition and it really brightened my day. I think it would be a shame not to include it.
Thanks. Agradman /contribs 18:08, 7 July 2009 (UTC)

Cute is only funny once, but an encyclopedia article is forever. DJ Clayworth (talk) 18:11, 7 July 2009 (UTC)

Hardy Boys

I responded on the article's talk page --AW (talk) 17:16, 10 July 2009 (UTC)

Lewishnl (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log)

You blocked him for a month yesterday for spamming, etc. I just re-set the block for a month due to playing whack-a-mole with his socks (see his talk or mine). just a heads up, totally agree with the original block. StarM 15:55, 12 July 2009 (UTC)

Princess Tiana tomfoolery

What do you suggest we do about this persistent editor who keeps insisting on changing the Princess Tiana article? I've tried reporting them for edit warring, vandalism, and trying to get the article protected--all to no avail. I'm at a loss how to get this person to stop. Cactusjump (talk) 21:12, 13 July 2009 (UTC)

It's been a day since he/she edited the article, so I would say leave it for now. He/she has probably gone away. If it starts again let me know, and I'll put a temporary block on the IP. DJ Clayworth (talk) 13:47, 14 July 2009 (UTC)
Had a look at the talk page, and I think the thing here is not to feed the trolls. Arguing is only going to make matters worse. DJ Clayworth (talk) 14:01, 14 July 2009 (UTC)
Good point. Will do. Cactusjump (talk) 16:25, 14 July 2009 (UTC)

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Deletion link.

I am so having a brain fart and for the life of my I have forgotten how to create a link for the deletion. Brothejr (talk) 16:01, 14 July 2009 (UTC)

A link for the debate would suffice. DJ Clayworth (talk) 16:03, 14 July 2009 (UTC)
Oh, ok. There was not so much a debate as a user decided to create the sub page after the original section was closed and collapsed. The user hoped that they could continue on the debate in the sub page. While the original section had been closed. There was no agreement or discussion to make the sub page, and evidence shows that the Birther discussion was continue on in the sub page. That was why I put up the speedy deletion template. This is backed up by the history of the main talk page. Brothejr (talk) 16:08, 14 July 2009 (UTC)
If there wasn't a formal decision to delete then let's leave it. We'll put a stop to fruitless argument and then the page can stand as a record of what was said. DJ Clayworth (talk) 16:13, 14 July 2009 (UTC)
That's fine. Brothejr (talk) 16:15, 14 July 2009 (UTC)
Funny, right after I removed the CSD temp off the page and the notification off the user's talk page, the deleted all the content and now it's going to be speedily be closed for having nothing on it! Brothejr (talk) 16:22, 14 July 2009 (UTC)
Let someone else deal with it if they want. DJ Clayworth (talk) 16:23, 14 July 2009 (UTC)
Very true, though it now looks like the user has now re-inserted their argument back into the main talk page. It seems as if they had deleted everyone's comments, boiled down what they were arguing, and then reposed it back on the main page for a new re-hashing of the argument. Brothejr (talk) 16:26, 14 July 2009 (UTC)
Yes, Ive undone this and I will find out if there is an explanation. DJ Clayworth (talk) 16:33, 14 July 2009 (UTC)
I'm going to stand back and let the bally-ho play out. It looks like you've got things under control. Brothejr (talk) 16:36, 14 July 2009 (UTC)
Brothejr, check the info please. I read WP:AATP about how to archive it, and it said "Using a subpage is the most popular method for archiving a talk page"... that's what I went ahead and did. I didn't know it was "improper"... --Barwick (talk) 16:28, 14 July 2009 (UTC)
The Early Life/Birth Place page was archived as a "drop down, click to open" box (not sure what it is called), in its entirety, when the items under discussion were never addressed. It was archived because some folks who didn't like Barack Obama came on with their "you leftist loons" rants, and it turned into just that, a rant. I subpage archived it (thinking that was the proper way to do it, but apparently wasn't), so I deleted the subpage content, and someone else had already moved it to the main "Archive 1" page.
At that point, I then went on to pull out all the facts of the discussion from both sides so they can be debated. --Barwick (talk) 16:40, 14 July 2009 (UTC)
The whole debate, including the part you posted, was clearly going nowhere. Please let sleeping dogs lie. Misplaced Pages is not an investigative journalist, hoping to uncover hidden facts. We report what is written. DJ Clayworth (talk) 16:42, 14 July 2009 (UTC)
It's been written, that's the thing. That's what the facts of the discussion were presented for, none of those facts have been disputed. --Barwick (talk) 16:46, 14 July 2009 (UTC)
The discussion was futile, and irrelevant to improving the article. You attempted to restart it. Please don't. DJ Clayworth (talk) 16:47, 14 July 2009 (UTC)
How is it futile? Saying "it's futile" doesn't make it futile. If you (or someone else) can show me where those facts have been disproven, then fine, but nobody has done that. --Barwick (talk) 16:50, 14 July 2009 (UTC)
It is futile because it in no way contributes to the improving of Misplaced Pages. The whole "where was he born" debate is clearly settled in the minds of 99% of people, and debating the merits of the issue is not Misplaced Pages's business. DJ Clayworth (talk) 16:55, 14 July 2009 (UTC)
It IS? Really? I was unaware that it was settled in the minds of 99% of the people. Please cite your Reliable Source for that information :) Seriously, 400,000 people have signed a petition, out of the unknown number who even know of that petition, that is probably a fairly high ratio of petition signers to petition viewers. --Barwick (talk) 17:16, 14 July 2009 (UTC)
You can look up the sources as well as I can. Please stop this now. I have better things to be doing. DJ Clayworth (talk) 17:17, 14 July 2009 (UTC)
Same.Abce2|Aww nuts!Wribbit!(Sign here) 18:00, 14 July 2009 (UTC)
They seemed to have ignored what you said and re-introduced the thread again. I have manually archived it again. Brothejr (talk) 09:58, 15 July 2009 (UTC)

Sorry if this comes across as an angry pissed off person, but it seems like admins are crossing the line and not playing by Misplaced Pages's own rules: This topic was "archived" because it became a forum. I took MY own time to clean it up so it can be discussed, and now you are trying to sweep it under the rug. That is not going to happen. In the talk section I have *clearly* and *concisely* (as concise as possible with everything involved here) presented the facts of both sides of this case. These facts have NOT been disproven beyond any reasonable doubt. Until someone shows me where these facts are incorrect, and DISCUSSES it, not just pulling the Stasi Secret Police method of hushing it away somewhere by saying "I'm archiving this"... I've said it multiple times, I AM PLAYING BY WIKIPEDIA'S RULES, and yet you seem unwilling to discuss this on the TALK page, per Misplaced Pages guidelines. You claim it has been discussed and is moot, I have just shown that these facts have NOT been disproven, and that they are legitimate concerns from an average, unbiased person. Calling everyone involved a "conspiracy theorist" or "kook" or whatever else is doing nobody any good. --Barwick (talk) 15:08, 15 July 2009 (UTC)

I've started a new AN/I section/case: over this as it does not seem to be resolved. Brothejr (talk) 16:53, 15 July 2009 (UTC)
Let me be clear about this. Misplaced Pages is not here to debate the truth of Barack Obama's birth location. The fact that you don't consider the case proved is irrelevant. For the overwhelming majority of people the cases is closed and that is what Misplaced Pages reports. Your posting was a clear attempt to reopen the debate about Obama's birth, and that is not the purpose of Misplaced Pages. That and anything else not related to improving the article will be removed. DJ Clayworth (talk) 17:32, 15 July 2009 (UTC)
How has it been resolved? Honestly? You are allowed to make that claim without backing it up? Again, 400,000 signatures of a petition (with a wild guess of 2 million people who even know the petition exists) shows there's more than a significant number of people out there who aren't convinced. You show me a non-biased survey that shows the vast majority of people believe 100% that Barack Obama II was born in that hospital in Hawaii, and I'll drop it. An example of such a survey would ask non-biased questions, such as "Do you believe President Obama was born in Hawaii in 1961? Yes absolutely, I'm fairly convinced, There's some reasonable doubt, Not at all" --Barwick (talk) 18:43, 15 July 2009 (UTC)
It is completely clear that consensus opinion in the world is that Obama was born where he said he was. 100 million people voted for him. Your 'petition' could be one guy with an internet bot (or one guy with no qualms about lying to make his point). Please do not make further posts on this page. DJ Clayworth (talk) 19:28, 15 July 2009 (UTC)

Got it, so, again, you're able to go on there and state your POV, but I'm not able to respond, gotcha. --Barwick (talk) 02:01, 17 July 2009 (UTC)

Reply at User talk:Barwick. DJ Clayworth (talk) 13:46, 17 July 2009 (UTC)
Good attempt at sweeping that one under the rug. Way to follow your own principles of reliable sources (*cough* hypocrite *cough*). Do is make you feel uncomfortable by calling you out when you require one standard from me, but you yourself don't even attempt to live by that same standard? I'll leave you be to reflect on the way you've approached this situation, and probably many more like it, to see if there's any way you can change your actions in the future, it might serve you well in the real world. --Barwick (talk) 13:25, 18 July 2009 (UTC)

RE: Invest in Knowledge

I resubmitted the page removing all mention of company name, or links to Kirtas or any of it's websites. Invest in Knowledge is a patented process, and although it was invented by Kirtas. I made no mention of Kirtas. What do I have to do?? I am looking for some guidance.VeryBigKahunaIII (talk) 17:31, 16 July 2009 (UTC) VeryBigKahunaIII

Answer at User talk:VeryBigKahunaIII. DJ Clayworth (talk) 18:51, 16 July 2009 (UTC)

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From The Wikihunter: I thought it would be clever to start up an interesting game on Misplaced Pages called Wikihunting. I think that if given the chance, I could place enough codes on pages for the game to become more noticable in society. These are harmless 10 character combinations located at the bottom of particular articles. They do not in any way try to harm or affect the article, this is why they are placed at the bottom. When the person who finds them tells me on e-mail that they found them, I would remove them from the article straight away. Then the players name would be put in a Hall of Fame and so a massive wiki competition begins. I think this would be a good game which will not only entertain the people who compete, but will increase and promote the use of Misplaced Pages. Please consider not terminating what could be an interesting stage of the life of Misplaced Pages. Get back to me. (The Wikihunter (talk) 08:27, 18 August 2009 (UTC)) —Preceding unsigned comment added by The Wikihunter (talkcontribs) 08:21, 18 August 2009 (UTC)

Reply at User talk:The Wikihunter. DJ Clayworth (talk) 13:36, 18 August 2009 (UTC)

Murder of James Bulger/3RR given

I gave user User:68.188.161.25 an official 3RR. Is there anything that can be done about this ? Seb az86556 (talk) 15:55, 19 August 2009 (UTC)

He's been told the facts, he's been warned. If he edits the article again today he'll be blocked. If the keeps editing the article after that we'll maybe give him a reference to the OED and if that doesn't work we'll assume he's a vandal. DJ Clayworth (talk) 16:29, 19 August 2009 (UTC)

kindly read

a One-stop for healthcare. You name it and it has it – largest number of Genuine Medical Doctors with verified credentials, Health insurance, Health Products, Medical Equipments, Books, CDs, Upload and maintain your health records and much more - an all-new world, which follows the religion of health. TopDoctorsOnline bridges the gap between the various facets of the medical fraternity. This portal brings the advice of top medical experts to you at the click of a button.

TopDoctorsOnline.Com provides users with comprehensive profiles of General Practitioners, Specialist Doctors, Clinics, Hospitals, Pathological Labs, and Chemists. Users can search & can get online consultation of doctors residing at any corner of the country with specific expertise and experience, or Hospitals / clinics that are better equipped to provide treatments for certain ailments. Likewise they can find pathological labs having various diagnostic facilities nearest to their home and area-wise 24x7 chemists that can deliver medicines at doorstep even at midnight!


Importantly, you can not only check out a doctor's clinic timings, visiting/consultation charges, and facilities available like vaccination, but also the detailed profile that includes other useful information that may help you form an opinion and conclude. Reports can be shared with the concerned health care providers instantly for immediate medication purposes. Get Health News, updates and highlights from the medical world. Connect and interact with medical groups, maintain and manage patient information records and participate in special medical cases, participate in webinars/ webcasts, online training & much more…….

Title of website:

Welcome to TopDoctorsOnline.Com - The Next Generation World of Healthcare. Stay connected to the medical fraternity 24x7x365days.

My Note:

executives of TopDoctorsOnline.Com are requested to submit article to http://en.wikipedia.org as they want

Dear Administrator @ WikiPedia,

i had just written as i think for this portal. I signed up this website as a user and got very good response to a problem from a live doctor online which I could not get from any doctor in my town. It is a boon for a country like India where more than 90% of specialist doctors live in major metro cities but 70% population belongs to rural areas where quality medical advice is not available.

I am really impressed with this concept and idea. I got benefited from yhis and thus want to share the same with the world so that others can also be benefited.

Thanks & regards, Arpit

Reply at User talk: Arpitdubey. DJ Clayworth (talk) 17:06, 21 August 2009 (UTC)

RCC or CC

You took part in Talk:Catholic Church/Archive 3#REQUESTED MOVE to Catholic Church there is a new requested move see Talk:Catholic Church#Requested Move --PBS (talk) 08:35, 23 August 2009 (UTC)

Replaceable fair use Image:Erin angel promo2.jpg

Replaceable fair use
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Actually the image is not being used under a fair use claim. It's being used with the permission of the copyright owner. DJ Clayworth (talk) 13:25, 26 August 2009 (UTC)

Misplaced Pages has different language versions

centre is the correct British spelling of center. Is this the British language wikipedia? Didn't think so. The might is not right on this one. "centre" is not a word in the English language. As it has been demonstrated already, all English dictionary's simply forward somebody to the word "center" when they search for the word "centre". It's British slang, it's *not* a word in the English language anymore than "wassawp!" is a word in the English language. Whether the word and usage of centre is popular or not doesn't change the fact that it's not technically a valid word. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 68.188.161.25 (talk) 17:32, 26 August 2009 (UTC)

If you read the policy, you will find that it is English language Misplaced Pages practice to use either American or non-American English spelling and usage. Specifically on articles focussed on Britain (such as Murder of James Bulger) British spelling is preferred. DJ Clayworth (talk) 17:35, 26 August 2009 (UTC)

Lock the talk page, please...

...on account of this. Not going away that easily, 'mfraid. :) Thanks. Vicenarian 19:41, 27 August 2009 (UTC)

Done. DJ Clayworth (talk) 19:56, 27 August 2009 (UTC)
Thanks. Vicenarian 19:57, 27 August 2009 (UTC)

Can you please address why my in-progress article on the company Gamer's University was deleted? I stated very clearly in the talk (as the automatic warning message directed) that the article was in-progress as I was still learning how to use Misplaced Pages's posting features. I do not appreciate that my efforts to explain my actions were completely ignored and that the article was removed based on the Notibility requirement before I even had an opportunity to render it complete. Please restore it lest I am forced to recreate it. Endymian (talk) 16:07, 31 August 2009 (UTC)

Reply at User talk:Endymian. DJ Clayworth (talk) 16:52, 31 August 2009 (UTC)

Getaroom.com

Can you show who created that page? It has been spammed many times before. A salt may be needed. Triplestop x3 22:29, 31 August 2009 (UTC)

That would be User:Wikiwiki1228. DJ Clayworth (talk) 14:06, 1 September 2009 (UTC)

A polite notice

Hey DJ Clayworth. Just a notice about CSD, in particular CSD G1 . You recently deleted the article Lewis Pritchard, stating that you were deleting it under CSD G1 in the deletion summary. However, patent nonsense really refers (on Misplaced Pages), to either a random jumble of letters, or a random jumble of words (e.g. "btrfgb ebrefdb rgvr" or "lol yes hah hah YAYAY! Got win lol wuh"). In this case, the article was neither, and it was understandable. I didn't get a chance to read the whole article before you deleted it, but the start at least read like a blatant hoax (or vandalism). Thus you should have used CSD G3 instead (note that if an article is vandalism, then G1 does not apply). Anyway, just something for the future, don't take it the wrong way, I'm not saying "you did something wrong", rather "in future, you could do this differently". Best, - Kingpin (talk) 14:23, 1 September 2009 (UTC)

Thanks for the note. DJ Clayworth (talk) 14:26, 1 September 2009 (UTC)


not sure how to message people, but this is how i was told

The Deadly Wolves, is about me, because its MY band Conner L. Hemming (talk) 16:35, 1 September 2009 (UTC)

Which is merely one of the reasons you shouldn't write about it. See Misplaced Pages:Conflict of interest. DJ Clayworth (talk) 16:48, 1 September 2009 (UTC)

Whats wrong

I have no understand what is so upseting you know. Please be specifically that justify the serious threat. Please each plan in easy the thing upset people. I really cannot manage. Nothing bad is being intentent by stuff action.

stilltim (talk) 22:14, 3 September 2009 (UTC)

Reply at User talk:Stilltim. DJ Clayworth (talk) 13:14, 4 September 2009 (UTC)

*snicker*

Nicely done. The V-Man 14:28, 4 September 2009 (UTC)

Not sure grammaticism is always the best response, but since he went on about 'ignorance' I couldn't resist. DJ Clayworth (talk) 14:30, 4 September 2009 (UTC)
Necessary and appropriate for the situation, I believe.  Works for me The V-Man 14:33, 4 September 2009 (UTC)

Stilltim

Greetings DJ Clayworth. Sorry to bring up User:Stilltim again, but I would like to ask a favour. The user in recent history has placed office seals as the main pic in infoboxs of politicians, when a pic of the subject is not available, which isn't ok per WP:MOSFLAG. I informed him of this on his talk page, and asked him to remember this in future, but it doesn't seem to have affected his editing behaviour. I was thinking maybe a note from an admin might get the message across much better. If you could do that, thank you very much. Otumba (talk) 13:21, 7 September 2009 (UTC)

I'll have a word. DJ Clayworth (talk) 13:39, 8 September 2009 (UTC)
The note you references seem to clear rejection to only flags and nothing else something. I'll stop put them useful if there is some action if much such reference, but thought rejection and thought you meant only to flags. But I have useful approval of use in appropriate seals, and such an a approval in the base line. Seem soon the approval was made OK from, a recent change from the past? See common WP Commons I think. Be assured I will follow any stated ruler. stilltim (talk) 14:32, 8 September 2009 (UTC)
Reply at User talk:Stilltim. DJ Clayworth (talk) 14:33, 8 September 2009 (UTC)
I'm sorry, but your reference does not include anything but flags. Please indicate what would prohibit other anything but only flags, anything arms which are actually approval in Commons for relevant. stilltim (talk) 14:50, 8 September 2009 (UTC)
If you read what I wrote, I said "sorry I was wrong". The prohibition only applies to biographical articles. DJ Clayworth (talk) 14:57, 8 September 2009 (UTC)

(I am Otumba, I changed my username) Thank you, DJ, for talking with stilltim. To clarify, I was referring to biographical articles as my concern, and I am sorry I was rather ambiguous. I have no concern with using the seal at the various Delaware assembly articles that have been created. On a final point, in reference to "And now I look at it, your use of the seal in biographical articles was a while ago", it was here: that prompted me to contact you since this add occurred after I initially stated my concern with stilltim. HonouraryMix (talk) 11:35, 9 September 2009 (UTC)

I am really sorry for contacting you again about this user. I'm going to admit, this guy is really starting to annoy me now. He's adding spaces at the top of articles, he's still adding seals to biographical articles, and he's even created a category called "People raised by Delaware", as if a state could raise someone. I am really tired so maybe I'm overreacting, but I'm really afraid I'm going to get into an edit war if I keep up with reverting some of his odd edits. Is there anything else that you can do as admin? HonouraryMix (talk) 19:26, 11 September 2009 (UTC)
I'll look at this edits again, but it won't be for a few hours. DJ Clayworth (talk) 20:13, 11 September 2009 (UTC)

Thank you. HonouraryMix (talk) 22:42, 11 September 2009 (UTC)

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Still time and Delaware articles

You may want to check out this discussion Misplaced Pages:Articles for deletion/List of Governors from Delaware. User:Stilltim has created a duplicate of List of Governors of Delaware, even after his recent warnings against mass moves or major changes without consensus or explanation. His improvements are actually quite good, but instead of using the existing article he creating an entirely separate one. I've merged his changes into the original article.DCmacnut<> 14:10, 9 September 2009 (UTC)

Christian Universalism

Greetings. Re your edit here, would you object to restoring the 3 Old Testament references just for a bit of balance? Please let me know what you think. Best,--Arxiloxos (talk) 14:48, 9 September 2009 (UTC)

Ideally I would rather not see the biblical quotes at all. The troubles are that a) Biblical quotes can be interpreted in a number of ways, and non-universalists interpret those verses differently b) these things can end up sounding like an argument - Universalists say they are right because of these quotes, but non-Universalists say they are wrong because of these quote, but then Universalists reply ah, but... c) it is not Misplaced Pages's job to argue why people believe what they believe - it's too close to proselytization for my mind. I would rather see time devoted to a clearer explanation of Universalist beliefs.
Having said all that I have no particular objection to the OT quotes going back. DJ Clayworth (talk) 17:07, 9 September 2009 (UTC)
Yes, I agree with you. One could conclude that there is a bit of OR and SYNTH in that article, despite all the footnotes. It's an interesting subject, though. I will restore a few OT cites to that section (because it's my impression that the OT sources tend to be an important part of Christian Universalist thinking), but if you think that the whole section should be replaced with something more rigorously sourced, I certainly wouldn't disagree. Best,--Arxiloxos (talk) 23:11, 9 September 2009 (UTC)

United Kingdom Football

You deleted my amendment of adding Tottenham Hotspur to the list of worldwide football renowed football teams. On what basis? If Chelsea are listed then Tottenham have very right to stand along side them. Tottenham have won more trophies, both domestically and in Europe than Chelsea, have a higher all time average attendance, have spent more continuous seasons in the top division and are currently listed in both Forbes and Deloitte & touche lists of top 20 worldwide football teams. Please do not delete again. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Rbs7878 (talkcontribs) 21:40, 9 September 2009 (UTC)

As I explained, such lists grow indefinitely. You want Spurs included: someone else thinks Newcastle should be in; if Newcastle are in then Ipswich should be in, then Cambridge United and so on until the list is hundreds long. Actually I've now taken the whole list out. Every major club is already mentioned in the section. DJ Clayworth (talk) 21:42, 9 September 2009 (UTC)

Deep Fried Oreo

Thank you for deleting Deep Fried Oreo. I discovered that the information I intended to include in that article already existed in the main Oreo article (although had I not found this information, I would have been quite annoyed that you deleted it within 1 minute of me making it giving me no chance to fill it out into a proper article)

Googlemeister (talk) 21:21, 10 September 2009 (UTC)

Thanks for the once-over. I understand your deletion of my article. I'll try again later....after we make gold records!! Does Indie Gold count? Cause we've sold over 100 albums ;) Ha ha! Cheers!

Bunnymurder (talk) 14:10, 11 September 2009 (UTC)Bunnymurder

No problem. Another 999,900 albums sold and you'll definitely deserve a Misplaced Pages article! DJ Clayworth (talk) 14:12, 11 September 2009 (UTC)

Jim Hawkins

Can I ask how you became aware of the article? Was it when I requested semi-protection. I did not ask for the article to be protected because it was wrong, because it clearly was wrong. What was needed was some breathing space free of IP vandals so that established editors could sort the article out. My request has had the desired effect. Semi-protection is due to end at 22:14 BST tonight, so we'll see if the IPs come back and start vandalising again. If they do, Tedder is ameniable to putting a long-term semi-protection back on the article. Mjroots (talk) 11:49, 12 September 2009 (UTC)

Yes, I spotted it on the request page for Admin intervention. I was surprised because I assumed it was about the Treasure island character, and I thought it an odd target for vandalism. I would suggest not putting it on long-term protection if we can avoid it. Frankly I think the main reason it's being vandalised is because Mr Hawkins keeps talking about it. If he stopped, it would probably die away. Anyway, I'm going to keep it on my watch list, which I gather other people are too. Most vandals go away when they find that their edits never actually show up on the page. DJ Clayworth (talk) 16:57, 12 September 2009 (UTC)

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Re: Evony

Thanks, what are some forums(the URLS if you please, not the definition lol :P) Thanks again?

Tim Tebow ROCKS!!!!!! (talk) 16:15, 14 September 2009 (UTC)

Sorry, I have no idea. Try Google. DJ Clayworth (talk) 16:16, 14 September 2009 (UTC)

Honesty box

Amusingly this article says that most adults have never heard of the honesty box facebook app while most kids have. I will endeavour to add a ref'd piece about this to Facebook before attempting to re-create the disambiguation page. Thanks, SqueakBox talk 17:20, 14 September 2009 (UTC)

Sure. However don't move a long-standing article about a well-known concept to insert an article about a recently-created Facebook app. DJ Clayworth (talk) 17:24, 14 September 2009 (UTC)
Long standing article? Its just a stub. Though until the facebook app is deserving of its own stub no reason to move it. Thanks, SqueakBox talk 21:04, 14 September 2009 (UTC)

Structural guides deleted

DJ Clayworth.

We make structural guides to films that are well regarded and utilized quite a bit, an example: http://www.boingboing.net/2009/03/23/physical-cosmologies.html. I'm assuming if Inglourious Basterds is highly coded film, then the wiki environment is the best place for our work, no? www.mstrmnd.com/log/1346 I think belongs on the page, perhaps an interpretive section. Can you recommend where it belongs if not See Also? We are not vandals I assure you. A slimmer version (minus our humorous header) can be found at www.mstrmnd.com/log/1345 —Preceding unsigned comment added by 74.72.195.65 (talk) 21:16, 16 September 2009 (UTC)

Firstly you should not insert external links in the main body of the article, which you did. Secondly, you should not be promoting anything you are personally associated with, which it seems you are, even by providing links to it. DJ Clayworth (talk) 21:22, 16 September 2009 (UTC)

Placement I do understand, my apologies, but in terms of the links, I am not promoting the sale of anything (our work is open source research), and I see no policy written regarding the placement of valuable information as links. I have just read the List of Policies and see nothing regarding this. Also, since Inglourious Basterds is no doubt a puzzle, as Tarantino hints, then its solution is necessary for the users, no? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 74.72.195.65 (talk) 21:50, 16 September 2009 (UTC) After reviewing this section of Wiki rules "What generally should be linked" it is fairly clear this information is very relevant to the article since it is information that provides a deeper understanding of the terms, characters and meanings in the film. Do you agree? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 74.72.195.65 (talk) 22:01, 16 September 2009 (UTC)

You are not allowed to promote anything, whether it is for sale or not. There are very strict limits on what can be linked in the external links. I don't believe your links count. If you wish you may discuss this on the talk page of the article. However I would say that Wikipedians generally dislike external links unless extremely relevant. DJ Clayworth (talk) 12:54, 17 September 2009 (UTC)

I see nothing regarding the rules of linking that structure the characteristic of the linking act, can you point this out to me? We are deeply linked by Misplaced Pages for a game we built for the show Jericho, so I do not agree with you that external links are disliked since we have no less than four links that lead from the Jericho game that we did not place there, the editors of that page sought us out to link. The link for Inglourious Basterds itself is highly relevant considering the film is designed like a narrative puzzle. Tarantino hints at this. He even goads the audience with the film's last line. If you are denying this link the potential for informing others, is there a committee I may discuss this with?

69.15.73.234

In general it isn't a great idea to block an IP address indefinitely although this one seems to be pretty static. Maybe reduce to 6 months rather than indefinite? JoshuaZ (talk) 21:44, 16 September 2009 (UTC)

I'll look at that. DJ Clayworth (talk) 12:54, 17 September 2009 (UTC)

Proposed merge

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Nomination for deletion - Discworld Stamps

With regard to your proposed deletion of the Discworld Stamps entry, aside from the rebuttal and justification already posted by Bernard Pearson, I would like to raise the following points against your claim that they are "non-notable", as they are facts that the careful research you will presumably have done before recommending the article deletion seems to have missed.

  • Over two million of the stamps have been sold in the little over 5 years that they have been produced, making them one of the (if not the) most successful cinderella stamp ranges ever produced.
  • They have a global collector-base, as evidenced by the input and discussion from over 1000 registered contributors on the stamp fan forum in over half a million postings.
  • Each of the stamp designs are produced in collaboration with and with the direct personal final approval of Sir Terry Pratchett himself. Indeed many of the ideas and inspirations come directly from him, aside from their inclusion in several of his recent books.
  • The stamps have been been included by invitation into the National United Kingdom Stamp Collection, as held at the British Library. So in effect Queen Elizabeth II is a Discworld stamp collector and flatalist.
  • They have been featured in mainstream stamp magazines such as Stanley Gibbons and Stamp Magazine. The professionally produced artwork and designs have been recognised as on a par with those provided by (and indeed arguably superior to in many cases) those of worldwide Philatelic Bureau.
  • They are a popular item for commercial and auction sale at every Discworld Convention plus on other sites like eBay, and have raised significant figures in such sales, for both good causes and secondary sellers.

I am sure there will be other inputs from our fellow Discworld fans whose tastes in these items are more in line with my own than yours. DarrenHill (talk) 05:56, 18 September 2009 (UTC)

Thanks for your input. I'm sure the article will survive the deletion nomination then. DJ Clayworth (talk) 13:03, 18 September 2009 (UTC)

If you are such a fan, why didn't you edit the page to reflect your idea of the truth, instead of just calling for a deletion? For all your supposed knowledge of this subject, you seem very naive. Advertising? I saw nothing relating to this, and think Darren has put a very good case for you to stick to one of the other subjects you deem yourself an authority on.120.152.83.84 (talk) 12:20, 21 September 2009 (UTC)Simon Evans (Australia)

I suggest reading what I wrote at on the deletion nomination. DJ Clayworth (talk) 15:05, 21 September 2009 (UTC)

Second Coming

Second coming is not a historical event but rather this: "Doctrinal topics or canonical religious ideas (as distinguished from specific events) capitalized by some religious adherents are given in lower case in Misplaced Pages, such as virgin birth, original sin, or transubstantiation." Your change concerns a religious idea. R/T-รัก-ไทย (talk) 16:28, 18 September 2009 (UTC)

I didn't say "historical events" I said "spiritual events" and I quote from WP:MOS: "Spiritual or religious events are likewise capitalized only when they are terms referring to specific incidents or periods (the Great Flood)". DJ Clayworth (talk) 17:13, 18 September 2009 (UTC)
Hi, The section you refer to listed past spiritual events. I tend to agree with you about Second Coming. I edited the MOS to include future events. Let's see if the other editors will let it stand. On this issue, we are on the same page. Some would like to use lower case for any religious term or event. R/T-รัก-ไทย (talk) 02:30, 19 September 2009 (UTC)

I did indeed revert the MOS addition, but not because I believe the Second Coming should be lowercase. It is a particular doctrinal idea of a specific event, therefore it should be capitalized as a proper noun. I made the reversion, though, because of the phrasing of the addition characterized it as a "future" event, which is a matter of faith, and therefore it's not NPOV to categorically call it a future event. Also, I didn't like the way it broke the symetry between the specific, proper noun examples given (the Great Flood and the Isrealite Exodus) and their common counterparts. oknazevad (talk) 06:42, 19 September 2009 (UTC)

I'm not sure what that's about. The MOS doesn't distinguish between 'past' and 'future' events like this: it just refers to "spiritual events". DJ Clayworth (talk) 18:16, 21 September 2009 (UTC)

Delaware items

Regarding displaying arms/notes if portraits as not available...I will follow your direction if I see an official policy instead of a simple opinion. If the arms display and note joining it are there, I see my method being helpful in understanding the situation and not simply an omission...but I can easily be overseeing something important. If that exists it should be written, but I cannot find it. I want to be a cooperative, a team player, but make sure the team has it right. And I do want to be a member of the team and not one of the odd balls. Thanks for working with me. stilltim (talk) 09:52, 20 September 2009 (UTC)

If you think the policy should be changed, the place to suggest it is on the talk page of the relevant policy. DJ Clayworth (talk) 18:17, 21 September 2009 (UTC)

Argopecten Purpuratus should perhaps be Argopecten purpuratus

Thank you for renaming the article from its all caps origin. However, as noted on the talk page for the former article (Talk:ARGOPECTEN PURPURATUS) the conventions is Genus species for binonmial names. Examples include those mentioned on that other talk page. Hence I think the species name in the article should start with a lower case p not a P. 164.55.254.106 (talk) 18:09, 21 September 2009 (UTC)

Done. DJ Clayworth (talk) 18:12, 21 September 2009 (UTC)
Thank you. Thanks also for moving the article's talk page. 164.55.254.106 (talk) 18:13, 21 September 2009 (UTC)
You're welcome. DJ Clayworth (talk) 18:17, 21 September 2009 (UTC)

Sorry for interrupting, but I ask for punishment for my conduct of 3RRs and attack against Paul Siebert

I did not know the 3RRs until later informed. Yet, I will take full responsibilities of my conduct. I learned that you are an admin, so that I strongly ask for a punishment for violation of 3RRs. Page: http://en.wikipedia.org/search/?title=Eastern_Front_(World_War_II)&action=history

As for the attack against user Paul Siebert, frankly speaking, I knew I was using bad languages( that means, I was fully aware of attacking ) though I deleted these words later. But imo he was quite annoying in that case regarding his tactics. Anyway I indeed attacked him over the dispute. Here, I strongly ask for punishment also for this conduct. Page: http://en.wikipedia.org/User_talk%3aPaul_Siebert?diff=315431223

The user Paul Siebert is generous in that he himself would not launch a report against my violation of 3RRs and attack. But, it is my concrete principle that when one does sth wrong, then he receives a punishment, so I hope in this case you can help me with it.

Lastly, sorry for troubling you here, but as of this moment it is a bit confusing to me to go through all the official formats to make a formal request for punishment. To timely tackle with the current issue, I forward my proposal here.

Thank you.

Vulturedroid (talk) 07:07, 22 September 2009 (UTC)