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:Alright, I may have lost my hat, but there's no need to get your panties in a bunch. I made a mistake: I glazed over the top and bottom of the thread and forgot that something in the middle had substance. If you look at my history of editing on that talk page and its article, I've never "hidden away" a topic out of spite, bias, or otherwise. Plus, I participated in the thread, I knew what it was about, I just had a momentary lapse in judgment and logic. Please accept my apologies and understand I meant no offense or malice. ] (]) 19:52, 11 October 2009 (UTC) :Alright, I may have lost my hat, but there's no need to get your panties in a bunch. I made a mistake: I glazed over the top and bottom of the thread and forgot that something in the middle had substance. If you look at my history of editing on that talk page and its article, I've never "hidden away" a topic out of spite, bias, or otherwise. Plus, I participated in the thread, I knew what it was about, I just had a momentary lapse in judgment and logic. Please accept my apologies and understand I meant no offense or malice. ] (]) 19:52, 11 October 2009 (UTC)
::Not to worry, there have been times when I have myself gone out and about town, and inadvertently mislaid my hat in the process. Losing my panties during these adventures is, fortunately, far less common to my experience. Best wishes. <font color="darkgreen">]</font>×<font color="darkred" size="-2">]</font> 19:59, 11 October 2009 (UTC) ::Not to worry, there have been times when I have myself gone out and about town, and inadvertently mislaid my hat in the process. Losing my panties during these adventures is, fortunately, far less common to my experience. Best wishes. <font color="darkgreen">]</font>×<font color="darkred" size="-2">]</font> 19:59, 11 October 2009 (UTC)
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You know, I've been editing here since 2005. I don't understand why, after an admittedly long time without edits, I'm suddenly being welcomed to Misplaced Pages in 2009 like a child. DKqwerty (talk) 16:13, 25 May 2009 (UTC)
DK, from I can show you that you make one edit in 2006, 6 in 2007, and 11 in 2008. If you want to go around fucking, blowing and calling people idiots you will be blocked out forever. You seem quite articulate. I guarantee you that 50% of wiki-editing is to do with keeping casual editors from fucking, blowing, calling idiots, writing rubbish for fun, etc...
Here is a list of links for you by User:Squeakbox:-
~ R.T.G 14:52, 10 June 2009 (UTC)
Believe me, I know, I spend most of my time here reverting vandalism and very little time contributing.
To clarify, I also made several edits under an IP account in 2005 which don't show up in my user manifest.
I apologize for saying your post in the Voyager Talk page made you sound like an idiot, but it really was a very unintelligent post that was written in the style (or lack thereof) of blog posts or AIM conversations. I did not mean to offend but to only point out my interpretation. I will try to refrain from such inflammatory language in the future. Since you're clearly an experienced Wikipedian, I hope to also seek your guidance on a few things in the near future. DKqwerty (talk) 23:45, 11 June 2009 (UTC)
I will try to answer anything you like or at least point you in the right direction. Why don't you just wipe out the stuff I said here and the bit where you give out about the welcome or you will see it every time you are on talk. GLuck ~ R.T.G 19:09, 12 June 2009 (UTC)

May 2009

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NPOV

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Hey DK. I appreciate your good faith discussion. I actually did add a source if you look at the history. There are of course lots more. Cheers. ChildofMidnight (talk) 05:22, 25 May 2009 (UTC)

Your single reference made no mention of interrogation polices, Guantanamo Bay, or his spending plans and only pertains to his associations. Therefore, it does not support most of your addition. It does not matter how many more there are, and if there are "lots more", please find them and cite them before making such additions. DKqwerty (talk) 05:30, 25 May 2009 (UTC)
In that case wouldn't it make more sense to remove mention of interrogation polices and Guantanamo Bay? I think it does include mention of his fiscal approach. Are you disputing that Republicans and Conservatives don't agree with his policies on Guantanamo Bay and interrogation? Cheney just made a lot of news with a speech about the issue and it was a point of difference throughout the 2008 campaign. Can we work together to include some balance and content that isn't laudatory? What do you think are the most notable criticisms or controversies? Let's include them so we abide by NPOV. ChildofMidnight (talk) 05:33, 25 May 2009 (UTC)
It doesn't matter if we agree (which of course I do in thei regard) per WP:NOR. Find some references and you're free to add it. Remember that secondary sources are preferred to primary sources unless "the contributing editor states the fact in a manner that does not present an interpretation of the fact (original research) which is not itself explicitly contained in the primary source" (i.e. Dick Cheney's interviews do not constitute reliable consensus criticism in-and-of themselves) per WP:Primary_Secondary_and_Tertiary_Sources.
Keep in mind, I do not make very many additions to articles, especially one's as heated and debated as the one we are disscussing. I simply revert vandalism and additions which go against established Misplaced Pages policies. I will continue to do so with any edit you make that does not adhere to said policies. DKqwerty (talk)
You were right about the spending bit, I had misread it because the word spending was included but in a different context. This story includes many of the same criticisms including a statement that "they also pounded Mr Obama over his tax and economic plans". I'm happy to compromise and work out appropriate wording and citations and whatever. ChildofMidnight (talk) 05:45, 25 May 2009 (UTC)

Technical errors

This is all relative.

see Atherosclerosis: 21:17, May 24, 2009 DKqwerty (talk | contribs) m (81,558 bytes) (Undid good faith edit by MAlvis: if it contains technical errors, of what value is it?; no need for such overt placement) (undo)
The reference is much better than most (because it is multimedia), and more accurate (actual natual history of the disease) than most, including the image on the[REDACTED] page about atherosclerosis.
Misplaced Pages itself has many technical errors, though it is fairly good on the whole (and widely accessible), else I would not be involved or waste my time on it.
As a practicing interventional cardiologist, very well informed on the issues from multiple aspects, including state-of-the-art basic science research findings, and long working to eliminate the use of/need for physical interventions to treat the symptoms of atherosclerosis and most cardiovascular diseases (well before people have any symptoms) with increasing success, I am fairly well informed and find very few references which are all that accurate and thus mislead.
While I know the multiple technical errors and correct them (in writing) with people I see a patients, the issues are well beyond what most physician editors on[REDACTED] are willing to accept and I am tired of fighting with some of these people, particularly one individual in England, who decline to accept research and clinical evidence as proof until several years to decades old, widely publicized and commonly accepted. Thus I have not bothered to offer the more advanced, integrated and more correct presentation of issues I provide patients via the[REDACTED] site. Such issues and human conflicts are not new; they are age old.
If you look me up under physician ratings, by patients (anonymous, I don’t know who they are), on the net, you may get an idea of where I am coming from.
Respectfully, M Alvis

So you are the Big Brother of atherosclerosis and macular degeneration (with an apology now included)

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Care to explain those removals? You even claimed the MD link didn't mention MD - very ironic. I didn't see much wrong with those sections, not at least meriting a total removal. If you don't integrate some of the texts back into the article, I'll figure a way to make them legitimate, but like I said, total removal of those sections is very much uncalled for.

Otvaltak (talk) 22:34, 1 June 2009 (UTC)

You need a third party source. Simply propping up fringe theories with the theorists' website as source is not reliable sourcing. In addition, much of what you added to the atherosclerosis page is a direct, word-for-word copy-and-paste from the webpage; this is of course plagerism and a copyright violation. Your additions also gave undo weight to a first-party source without any reputable, third-party verification and sounded mostly like an advertisement for SENS. Without third-party verification, such information is at best speculation and adds nothing to the articles; in fact, it detracts from them.
Your comments to me here are also very contentious; "I'll figure a way to make them legitimate" exemplifies this. As long as the SENS page is your only source for such information, it will be reverted (if not by me, someone else). Calling me "big brother" will not deter me from reverting any changes made to articles which are in violation of Misplaced Pages guidelines. I suggest looking at your talk page and familiarizing yourself information contained at the top.
Your constructive participation in Misplaced Pages is always welcome. But if you continue to make edits which seem more like advertisements for SENS, I will submit you as having a conflict of interest. Thank you. DKqwerty (talk) 22:59, 1 June 2009 (UTC)
I'm sorry. I just feel frustrated that the whole sections were removed, but I'll wait until there's a third party source (ie. an article or scientific publication) so that the sections can be added without an apparent conflict of interest. I apologize.

Otvaltak (talk) 23:11, 1 June 2009 (UTC)

French fries editing

Excuse us here at the UWEC, but in actual truths, we actually were not really testing-we were partly redesigning certain portions of French fries, and we'd never purposely vandalize any articles. Sorry of the mistake-please give us any insights or view you have on the article portion we edited. We represent University of Wisconsin-Eau Claire-in the reality, testings aren't what we are here doing. Please help us out so that the testing notes will not pop onto our college usertalk pages again. We're sorry for inconvenience caused by that editing we did with "French fries." What was the problem?

The UWEC at 173.19.119.172 (talk) 04:08, 12 June 2009 (UTC)

By Jonasan

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Yes, I am a very awkward, I am very straight forward and random. And no, I do not see it as conflict of Interests. I love my neighbor and my enemy, but I do not follow their steps nor their beliefs. I DO NOT DISCRIMINATE, I am not a hypocrite. I am a Republican, and believe in Republican and Christian values. The band t.A.T.u. is my favorite band, i love their music not their actions. I have proof that Barack Obama is a Muslim, but I can not express myself. I believe my Freedom of Speech and Right are violated. I edited United States of America showing that it was formed under Christian founders, but they deleted my sentences and say I just committed vandalism. I believe Misplaced Pages is not being fair to me, i can not edit or show my point of view, only the others. JonasanRat7 (talk)JonasanRat7 —Preceding undated comment added 04:23, 12 June 2009 (UTC).

Your freedom of speech is protected from censorship by the government, no one else. Misplaced Pages is not the government and reserves the right to maintain the quality of its content. Regarding the YouTube video you tried to add, if you had even bothered to read the video's description, you'd have realized, "It is as clear as day that he's putting sarcastic quotes around 'my Muslim faith' since the entire question is about his (actual) Christian faith." You are trying to give undo weight to your interpretation of Obama's words, nothing more. I guarantee that if you continue to post this video in the article, you will be blocked from editing by an admin. Please try to be reasonable in the future and think before you edit. DKqwerty (talk) 04:35, 12 June 2009 (UTC)
You know, you are free to stop at any time. You're not making any sense. Do YOU know Obama's religion? If not, it's fair game to anyone who wants to try and guess...or prove...
Swimmerfreak94 (talk) 04:45, 12 June 2009 (UTC)
Yes, Christianity. Source: Barack Obama. DKqwerty (talk) 05:03, 12 June 2009 (UTC)
Does everyone tell the truth all the time? NO. and Muslims are allowed to lie to advance the cause of their religion. Of course he wouldn't want anyone to know if he was Muslim because he'd be in t-r-o-u-b-l-e. Hmm...Swimmerfreak94 (talk) 05:06, 12 June 2009 (UTC)
It must be scary living in a paranoid, delusional world. (And please try to keep these discussions linear.) DKqwerty (talk) 05:10, 12 June 2009 (UTC)
offending me, "DKqwerty" JonasanRat7 (talk)JonasanRat7
In what way have I offended you? DKqwerty (talk) 05:03, 12 June 2009 (UTC)
I believe your a fake, i mean are you really an administrator? ur so mean, what did i do? are you atheist? u act like 1 —Preceding unsigned comment added by JonasanRat7 (talkcontribs) 05:52, 12 June 2009 (UTC)

(EC-OD)To everyone involved, this conversation doesn't really appear to be going anywhere, and certainly doesn't appear to be geared towards helping to create an encyclopedia. I'll politely suggest that this conversation just stop before we get too deep into insults and personal attacks. I see Swimmerfreak has retracted one of his comments, good for him. Good luck in the future to everyone involved. Dayewalker (talk) 05:25, 12 June 2009 (UTC)

June 2009

Welcome to Misplaced Pages. Although we invite everyone to contribute constructively here, we would like to remind you not to attack other editors, as you did with this edit to User talk:DKqwerty. You may wish to read the introduction to editing for more information about Misplaced Pages. Thank you.   — Jeff G. (talk|contribs) 05:28, 12 June 2009 (UTC)

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AN/I case

Thanks for weighing in on the Dr90s issue at AN/I. It's depressing going back through the history of this Dr90s character. I only became involved in the matter 6 months ago but his history as far as I can trace it goes back to at least May 2008. In looking back like this, I see a lot of trouble from this guy and in some cases it appears he has contributed to the retirement of valuable and productive editors like User:The Prince of Darkness. As this retired editor's "farewell message" says, "I developed stress and often became very angry or depressed by having edit wars and pointless discussions with other editors. I'm also very tired of having to revert vandalism done by IP addresses (if only registration was required...). So what I really need to do is leave, because I don't think Misplaced Pages is good for my health." Judging by earlier unsuccessful Dr90s reports like this, it appears clear that Dr90s' tendentious editing style has done serious damage to Misplaced Pages. I have lost the optimism I once had on the issue, and I honestly don't think we'll ever be free of this obsessed guy. My goal now is to build up tools that normal editors can use to rid us of his corrupting influence. The AN/I sanction is an important step since it makes Sockpuppet reports easier to file. I appreciate your support in the matter greatly. Cheers, -Thibbs (talk) 13:58, 16 June 2009 (UTC)

Thanks for making the newest report to Tan. I appreciate it. I was trying to assume good faith back at OoT despite the pretty obvious indications that it was Dr90s. I'm worried that the admins are getting sick of me so I thought I'd wait for someone else to do the reporting this time. I think it's about time for me to take a bit of vacation from Dr90s articles. The whole thing is such a waste of time and energy. Feel free to contact me with anything regarding this guy if you need any help. I'll be sure to respond if I'm around. Good luck, -Thibbs (talk) 17:15, 18 June 2009 (UTC)

Yu-Gi-Oh! / Rick Roll

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In this edit, you added a See also reference to a non existing page. There's a Misplaced Pages note about doing so at WP:ALSO; it's recommended not to link to uncreated pages in See also sections. Thanks, and good editing! Newportm (talk) 00:29, 28 June 2009 (UTC)

Dude, I didn't add anything to "See also" on that page, Yu-Gi-Oh is not my thing. All I did was revert a RickRoll someone had posted on a bunch of pages. DKqwerty (talk) 01:37, 28 June 2009 (UTC)
I see what you say. Thanks for your help and for straightening me out on that. Newportm (talk) 05:02, 28 June 2009 (UTC)

Space exploration

Please explain your edits in this artile and what do you consider 'unsourced'?--MathFacts (talk) 17:09, 28 June 2009 (UTC)

List of LGBT characters in film, radio, and TV fiction‎ - edit "warring"

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Replied from here

Since July 1 you trying to stalk me down (although the truth is was on your side, since this revert), that it's saying about you something... haha just kidding :), but seriously - why 96% of your edits are just reverts of other wiki users with obvious reasons like "vandalism" although no vandalism has happened. Maybe are you just frustrated, or maybe you will be just some troller who likes and does his "job" for joy :), but remember my fella, be BOLD - this isn't some website for bullying, but for knowledge ;). To the point, your comment on your revert was: "Undid persistent edit by RockandDiscoFanCZ per WP:RS: other wikis are not reliable sources; contentious editing per "hahaha" in comment" (damn, on last line you're so robotic :D) O RLY? folowing site is "that other wiki"? http://www.comicvine.com/miyuki/29-46449/gallery/108-10205/74991-miyuki/105-168807/ .. haha, this joke was perfect! ;D and now source. That source saying: "Miyuki is a character from the manga/anime Yu Yu Hakusho. She is a transgender member of the demon triad, a group of demons warriors that work for the Toguro Brothers. Appearing to be an beautiful young woman, Yusuke discovers while fighting her that she is physically male." comicvine.com - it's seems to be a fine website, not blog, not TOW, but some notable (seems to be) website. So where is the catch or problem? ;) Maybe, problem is not on side of me, but on side of you, sorry it's nothing personal. RockandDiscoFanCZ (talk) 17:56, 4 July 2009 (UTC)

From Misplaced Pages:Verifiability: "self-published media, whether books, newsletters, personal websites, open wikis, blogs, Internet forum postings, tweets etc., are largely not acceptable. Self-published material may, in some circumstances, be acceptable when produced by an established expert on the topic of the article whose work in the relevant field has previously been published by reliable third-party publications." Comic Vine clearly does not meet this burden of verification. Please refrain from using it or any other open Wiki as a source. And for the record, I did assume good faith; had I not, I would have summarized your edits as "vandalism". DKqwerty (talk) 18:19, 4 July 2009 (UTC)
w-waaait.. open? Maybe ()... but wiki? That site doesn't support MediaWiki device, so what? ;) By the way, have you recognize that, that "List of LGBT characters in film, radio, and TV fiction" list doesn't have so many sources? Big Gay Al from South Park is gay? Unsourced - I can't trust to that list, maybe Big Gay Al character is heterosexual .. Theodore "T-Bag" Bagwell from Prison Break was bisexual? Unsourced Where is some references about it, huh? ;) Irwin from The History Boys was gay? Unsourced What a nonsence, where are references about it? Hmm? So best solution is remove that list, because statements have no references. I get it! Yeah :D .. etc.. I know what will you say: YYH is some sh t, that nobody cares about (and that's main - nobody knows it).. so Notability wiki thing. and I will say: Say what? explanation: for example, see line Richard Cosway - Jefferson in Paris - Gay - Film, but where's on the Jefferson in Paris article you see something about this? Nowhere! So that note is Original research, vandalism ( your favourite word ) .. or I don't know now what.. :D so somebody can add that note about Miykavi is a -something-, because nobody gives a shit about that article. That's the RockandDiscoFanCZ-point-of-view ;) RockandDiscoFanCZ (talk) 18:51, 4 July 2009 (UTC)

Semi-protect for NCIS?

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I see the IP repeatedly entering Season 7. If you keep changing it back yourself, I fear you could inadvertantly violate 3RR, and you do too much good work to be blocked. I'll try to keep my eye open and help our where I can - but I hope you perhaps will call in an admin to help you with this person who doesn't quite understand the rules. Alternately, you could let him list "Season 7 in production" as CBS has announced they renewed the show. I apologise if I have stuck my big Irish nose in where it doesn't belong. Look at my contribs and you will see I hate van.... um, uncited changes as much as you. But do not want to see an edit war with this person and you - it looks like he's hopping IP's anyway, so he will be harder to nail. I will help you if I can, but only if you want it. Cheers, TristaBella (talk) 23:38, 6 July 2009 (UTC)

First, thanks for the compliment!
I would love to add a "season 7 in production" statement to the number of seasons, but since I cannot find any evidence that season 7 has actually begun production, this would be just as invalid as changing "6" to "7". I'll ask an admin about semi-protecting the article, but there really isn't any evidence that it's the same person making that edit; it's actually the kind of crap that one comes to expect from IP account...people see something they think is wrong and try to "fix" it, unaware of Misplaced Pages guidelines. At this point, the best thing to do is probably leave a template message on the talk pages of IPs who try to change it more than once. Otherwise, it's really a tiny problem in the scheme of things, especially in light of all the Michael Jackson IP vandalism going around right now. If the problem persists into, say, late July or August, I seek semi-protection; until then, we should probably just deal with it.
But this only my opinion, feel free to request semi-protect yourself if you wish. DKqwerty (talk) 00:28, 7 July 2009 (UTC)
Roger that on the MJ vandalism. I know the persistant vandalism on the CSI/NCIS pages is pretty minor compared to say, Northern Ireland or any organized religion. My initial urge to have it semi-protected seems a bit silly in retrospect - which is one of the reasons I always bounce it off somebody else first. I am trying to learn as fast as I can, but computer capabilities seem to have passed me a few years ago as I slept one night <wry grin>. I am not sure I will ever be that great at the vandalism reporting. But I will continue to try. Again, I just wanted to make sure you did not inadvertanly get sucked into an edit war with somebody who does not care about following the rules. It's just too bloody easy to create another username with a throwaway address and vandalise away until Wiki finally gets around to taking action (not admins' fault - I understand the huge backlog and the admin/a**hole ratio). I'll keep at it, but may I call on you occasionally for help on how to do something? I promise not to abuse the privilege. Cheers, TristaBella (talk) 00:57, 7 July 2009 (UTC)
You're always welcome to ask me any questions. I find this kind of amusing though, as I'm still asking advice of other editors more established than I.
One page you'll want to bookmark is WP:WARN. These templates are handy to quickly offer advice to other editors when they have failed to follow Misplaced Pages guidelines without having to write a new message every time. Also important is WP:AIV, which will let you quickly get accounts blocked when they go on a vandalism binge or are persistently vandalizing. Another is WP:ANI, which allows you to seek admin intervention for various, non-content disputes (i.e. legal threats, insults, etc.).
And never feel ashamed to click the "help" link in the left-hand column. I do frequently. DKqwerty (talk) 01:24, 7 July 2009 (UTC)
Consider yourself hugged by a small, silver haired brat! TristaBella (talk) 01:28, 7 July 2009 (UTC)

July 2009

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Vandalism ?!?

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Hello!! I was accused of vandalism...?!? Why?! Lightwarrior2 (talk) 02:41, 8 July 2009 (UTC)

Ugh. I didn't "accuse" you of vandalism. I just said the edit itself may constitute vandalism, hence the "possible vandalism" summary.
You added an inappropriate link (copyrighted material on YouTube) in an inappropriate place (external link to a video mid-page in an image cation). To me, that says vandalism. But since it wasn't overt, I said "possible" and reverted.
In the future, do not add YouTube videos to articles except in very extreme cases (all of which escape me at the moment). If the video is of any substance, it's more than likely a copyright violation. Please keep this in mind in the future. DKqwerty (talk) 02:55, 8 July 2009 (UTC)
Thanks for the info and sorry for that...Because i saw only possible vandalism... It was a disagreement on my part...I found this video on Youtube and not seen any external link in this article, i put this link (in small) as a source near to the Motown 25... I don´t know yet, all rules in Misplaced Pages... But will try to find out by myself and by mistakes. Sorry.
By the way, i need your help if could please... I want to upload, one image from the movie, Thriller, by Michael Jackson, (werewolf) to put in Thriller (music video) article... However, i know this picture will be as a Non-free music video screenshot license... But i need to know, please, what kind of Non-free media use rationale to use (or how many)...
Thanks!! Lightwarrior2 (talk) 03:28, 8 July 2009 (UTC)
You'll want to find someone more familiar with copyrights and fair use than I. While I can easily spot flagrant copyright violations, I'm still pretty shaky on what constitutes fair use. Another, more experienced editor can probably give you much better advice. DKqwerty (talk) 03:33, 8 July 2009 (UTC)
Thanks again!! I will explore more about it and i will make what you recommended to me. Thanks DKqwerty!!
Lightwarrior2 (talk) 03:54, 8 July 2009 (UTC)

Thanks

Thanks for reverting the vandalism on my user page. =) Impala2009 | Talk 00:59, 10 July 2009 (UTC)

"Thriller" (Michael Jackson)

Just curious as to why the notes I added re: the song "Thriller" were removed. The song was featured in the SoBe Life Water commercial and in the movie "Revenge of the Nerds." For verification, you can always look them up on You Tube, or rent the DVD (of the movie). I have no reason to make this up. 98.218.111.226 (talk) 21:46, 10 July 2009 (UTC) V1iciouslady

As I noted in my summary, as written it constituted a trivia section. "In popular culture" sections are generally frowned upon and, if such information is truly notable enough for inclusion, should be easy enough to add (as prose) within another, already existing section. In addition, your edit lacked any reliable sources which would verify this information. YouTube links to copyrighted material are not reliable sources, and citing the DVD amounts to original research; If no reliable, third-party source has written about it, it's probably not worth including anyway. DKqwerty (talk) 01:53, 11 July 2009 (UTC)

OK Computer

Hi there,

Thanks for your edits to the article, but please take note of the three revert rule. If you revert another user's edits more than 3 times in 24 hours, you can be blocked from editing. I strongly suggest talking things over at the article talk page and reaching a consensus about the article content. Let me know if I can help.Papa November (talk) 23:11, 12 July 2009 (UTC)

Don't worry. I know I'm on my second of three reverts, but thanks for the heads up just the same. I have clearly taken issue with User:WesleyDodds' borderline ownership of the OK Computer article (among others) by reverting helpful, productive, and otherwise benign improvements, citing them as unnecessary. If you feel as I do that there is no legitimate reason to, for example, revert the addition of the {{tracklist}} template to the Collector's Edition in favor of a sloppy, bulleted, improperly-titled list of tracks, please chime in on either the user's or article's talk page. If I've done something wrong or against precedent, I'd be happy to leave this alone. But I can not see how most of what he reverted (which were not just edits I had made, but edits by others as well) was anything but improvements.
Thanks for any support or information regarding this issue. DKqwerty (talk) 23:52, 12 July 2009 (UTC)
By the way, I never asserted ownership of the page. I've made two edits or so in the past month there. I've helped people edit the page in the past, and I was mainly helping to clean it up to its previous state since I noticed they were inactive lately. WesleyDodds (talk) 03:59, 13 July 2009 (UTC)

Reply

Firstly, I made a mistake when I reverted the track templates. I was looking at the page diff comparision, so I only saw the extra tracklist section. Misremembering how the main tracklist section was formatted in this page, I mistakenly thought that the main and extra tracklist sections used inconsistent formatting, so I tried to recitfy that. I apologize. Secondly, the "who?" template is incorrectly used. The subject is stated (music critics), which is all we need; as this is the lead section of the article, specifying which critics hold this opinion would make the section unnecessarily long. Per WP:LEAD, we kept it simple; specifics are discussed in the article body. If you have a better way to convey the same information, feel free to edit the lead, but the template is unnecessary. As for English in the album infoboxes, that's one of Koavf's editing ticks. He keeps insisting on putting a language in the infobox even though neither the album infobox page nor WikiProject albums instruct people to do so (regardless, that hasn't stopped him from trying to cite both as indicating the field should be included, even though I've pointed out to him before that that is false). It's not something I go out of my way to remove; if I see it in a page I'm editing I remove it, because it isn't particularly useful, it's not part of the template script, he's the only one who inserts it, and other editors have done the same. WesleyDodds (talk) 03:56, 13 July 2009 (UTC)

Barack Obama birth location

Please clarify how my edit to Barack Obama's[REDACTED] page in any way violated any[REDACTED] TOS. My entry changed "was born at" to "is thought to have been born at" and also added "No official documentation of his exact birth location has ever been released or confirmed." How can this possibly be defamatory? Is it factually untrue? If you consider it unsourced, that's quite the point - there is no official confirmation, just news articles which only in the past week changed the birth hospital from Queen's Hospital to Kapi'olani, shortly after WND broke the story of the Obama letter. Amazingly, the change to Kapi'olani as the birth place was coincident with that hospital removing the Obama letter stating he was born there. There is not only no official or primary source verification that Kapi'olani is the birth place, there is active controversy and evidence of a cover up. To state as fact his birth location at this point is grossly irresponsible. If you can produce any official documentation of the birth location, please do. Otherwise, accept that there is a controversy. Your Orwellian tactics simply add to my concerns that[REDACTED] is a fundamentally biased site. Jwbaumann (talk) 06:17, 14 July 2009 (UTC)

Shut up. DKqwerty (talk) 12:00, 14 July 2009 (UTC)
Good answer. :) Baseball Bugs carrots 12:26, 15 July 2009 (UTC)

Spoken like a true wikipedian. My point is made. Thank you. Jwbaumann (talk) 17:25, 14 July 2009 (UTC)

In a case of life imitating art, I saw a story that some military officer is refusing to go back to Afghanistan on the grounds that Obama is not eligible to be President. He probably figures that's better than coming out and saying, "I don't wanna get shot!" Baseball Bugs carrots 12:26, 15 July 2009 (UTC)

66.67.100.83

Hello DKquerty, IP editor 66.67.100.83 has made a comment about an athlete who was reverted as being non-notable. As the editor who made the reversion, I thought perhaps you'd like to comment or follow the discussion. If not that's cool too. Thanks, --JBC3 (talk) 15:18, 14 July 2009 (UTC)

User:Dan d dog20

That guy was given a short block, a year ago, apparently for sockpuppetry. So why is he still here, I wonder? Baseball Bugs carrots 12:23, 15 July 2009 (UTC)

Your Great Admirer

Looks like you've acquired an impersonator at DKqwenty (talk · contribs). Any idea who it might be? Dayewalker (talk) 13:17, 15 July 2009 (UTC)

Thanks for the heads up. I'm fairly sure it's whomever is behind Seismic Micro - Technology because the edit they made is identical to one I reverted by the user. I've reported the username to WP:UAA. DKqwerty (talk) 16:43, 15 July 2009 (UTC)
And the username has now been blocked, so all is well. Thanks again. DKqwerty (talk) 16:44, 15 July 2009 (UTC)

Users' talk pages

It appears you have been in a conflict with 92.239.38.135 (talk · contribs) about them removing comments from their talk page. I'm writing to make you aware that users (including anonymous IP editors) are allowed to remove warnings and comments from their talk pages. Doing so is considered acknowledgment of having read them. Restoring warnings and comments to other users' talk pages after they have removed them is considered disruption. There are important exceptions to this:

  • Editors are not allowed to remove declined {{unblock}} requests before the block expires
  • Editors are not allowed to remove information about shared IP addresses, such as {{sharedIPEDU}}
  • Editors are not allowed to removed confirmed {{sockpuppet}} or confirmed {{sockpuppeteer}} tags from their talk pages.

I hope this clears things up. Toddst1 (talk) 15:36, 20 July 2009 (UTC)

Date edits again

See user:Calcentnavania2,100 --Omarcheeseboro (talk) 19:40, 20 July 2009 (UTC)

Also 64.107.1.103 --Omarcheeseboro (talk) 19:50, 20 July 2009 (UTC)

Cut and paste move

You tried to do a cut and past move of Those Damned Blue Collar Tweekers -> Those Damned Blue-Collar Tweekers, but moving pages this way doesn't move the page history. You should move pages using the "move" tab atop the article, or if it blocks you, put it onRequested moves for an administrator to do it. -- Austin512 (talkcontribs) 03:24, 22 July 2009 (UTC)

Sorry, my mistake. I did it hastily while revising the Sailing the Seas of Cheese article without thinking. Won't happen again. DKqwerty (talk) 03:38, 22 July 2009 (UTC)

Super Mario 64

OK, it just looked suspicious for someone to remove a category, but if it's not for DS, then it never really should have been there I suppose. Darktower 12345 (talk) 02:52, 28 July 2009 (UTC)

Mad Hatter

Johnny Depp has been confirmed to play the Mad Hatter in Tim Burton's Alice In Wonderland film. How can that cause vandalism? We're allowed to include random references to the character but we can't include an actor who's own page lists "Mad Hatter" as who he's playing in an upcoming film?--67.34.181.210 (talk) 15:05, 28 July 2009 (UTC)

Sorry

RE: Sumer Camp

I know I shouldnt of put it on, I knew that before you removed it, I belive I did remove it, But I must of thought I did, then againg, sory.

RE: Repeated Template Reversions

Your note:

Please do not use styles that are unusual or difficult to understand in articles, as you did in Template:Obama Executive Office. There is a Manual of Style that should be followed. Thank you. Specifically: title case should always be used, not all caps; the form "since XXXX" should be used rather than "XXXX—" per WP:OTHERDATE; an en-dash ("–") or em-dash ("—") should always be used rather than a double hyphen ("--"); Please take a moment to read over the manual of style and use it as a guide for future editing. Thank you. DKqwerty (talk) 01:22, 2 August 2009 (UTC)

Response:

WP:OTHERDATE does NOT disallow dates with hyphens in tables. It discusses how to best use them. Please carefully read the provisions before calling out others for not following them.

WP:MOS applies to text; it says nothing about all caps captions in tables. That said, it does not matter to me either way, so I will use title case in my next edit of the templates.

You are correct about the double hyphen, and I will use the em-dash instead. Thank you.

I see that you have had that same issue with another person who was trying to edit the templates last month. To avoid a misunderstanding, perhaps I should explain why I am making the edits: it is to make the tables more readable. When the word "since" is removed, the spacing is much improved, the tables are half the length, and they can be viewed without excessive use of page downs. This is especially important in the Obama administration set of templates which have been stacked in multiple layers. Often the length of the templates exceeds the length of the biographical article on the Obama administration official.

Furthermore, as indicated in the MOS, "Printers and screen-readers will both output only the content that is immediately visible on the page". Therefore the tables with the "since" removed are more accessible and printable as well.

I trust that you will not revert these changes unless you can justify the unnecessary length, readablity and printability issues that your changes produce. --Regards W E Hill (talk) 12:20, 2 August 2009 (UTC)

Thank you

I noticed the work you have been doing on the Jaco Pastorius article- the photos of him young I posted.. I don't have as much time as I'd like but this is a very noteworthy musician, I feel, and deserving of time and care. Thanks so much! --Leahtwosaints (talk) 22:50, 2 September 2009 (UTC)

AGF

Please assume good faith in your dealings with other editors. Assume that they are here to improve rather than harm Misplaced Pages. If you continue to assume bad faith, you will be blocked from editing. 70.245.239.63 (talk) 14:27, 19 September 2009 (UTC)

I have not idea to what you're referring. I make a couple edits a month now, none of which recently made any assumptions of faith. And given that the only edit the above account has made is to my talk page, I'm assuming you're either mistaken or just an asshole hiding behind a random proxy, posting messages on the talk pages of people you hold a grudge against. So, unless you show me a specific edit in which I did not assume good faith, please kindly leave me alone. DKqwerty (talk) 14:29, 20 September 2009 (UTC)
Did you lose your vision? On this revision, you characterized good-faith with vandalism. This is what idiots do. You also revert edits on Mario Kart Wii and this is edit warring. Please stop edit-warring and inappropriately marking GFE as Vandalism, or else you will be blocked from contributing to this site. AND QUIT CALLING ME AN ASS!!! Sheesh. 70.249.221.214 (talk) 17:55, 20 September 2009 (UTC)
Okay, so I was right: you're just an asshole hiding behind a random proxy, posting messages on the talk pages of people you hold a grudge against. And there's no assumption of good faith when it comes to you persistently trying to make edits which have been unanimously rejected by the majority of other editors, as with your idea that Paroxetine is safe for pregnant women based on a single, small contradictory study. Get a life and stop harassing people on the Internet with your annoying stupid games. Or if you just can't help yourself, go bother Conservapedia or Encyclopedia Dramatica instead. They could use another idiot. DKqwerty (talk) 14:48, 21 September 2009 (UTC)
Calm down, DK. This statement above of going to those encyclopedias and they could serve another idiot is not acceptable. DKqwerty, this is also a violation of WP:NPA. Assume good faith in your comments, although some IP is bothering you. Chevy Impala 2009 (Sign me!) 01:48, 22 September 2009 (UTC)
IP, actually YOU are assuming bad faith. Stop vandalizing my unprotected talk page. Also, screaming in ALL CAPS is an assumption of bad faith. Chevy Impala 2009 (Sign me!) 18:03, 20 September 2009 (UTC)
DKqwerty he is assuming bad faith, however you did just violate WP:NPA, might I suggest WP:Wikiquette alerts?--SKATER 14:59, 21 September 2009 (UTC)
Quit saying shut up! Shut up yourself!!! :( 70.245.227.244 (talk) 01:45, 22 September 2009 (UTC)

Warning

I warned the IP to the vandalism to your page, I'd suggest WP:SPI.--SKATER

70.245.239.197 just got blocked for 48 hours.--SKATER 14:44, 25 September 2009 (UTC)
That's great, but the actual human being behind the IP will simply tick over to a new one. Gotta love the anonymity of the Internet… DKqwerty (talk) 14:47, 25 September 2009 (UTC)
To be honest, I personally love The anonymity of the internet, but that's besides the point. If you would make me a list of the IP's I'll happily report it to SPI.--SKATER 14:49, 25 September 2009 (UTC)
70.245.226.188 (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · filter log · WHOIS · RDNS · RBLs · http · block user · block log)
70.245.227.244 (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · filter log · WHOIS · RDNS · RBLs · http · block user · block log)
70.249.221.214 (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · filter log · WHOIS · RDNS · RBLs · http · block user · block log)
70.245.239.63 (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · filter log · WHOIS · RDNS · RBLs · http · block user · block log)
70.245.226.188 (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · filter log · WHOIS · RDNS · RBLs · http · block user · block log)
70.242.143.0 (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · filter log · WHOIS · RDNS · RBLs · http · block user · block log)
70.245.239.197 (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · filter log · WHOIS · RDNS · RBLs · http · block user · block log)
This is the list as it stands now. Thanks for offering to report them. DKqwerty (talk) 14:51, 25 September 2009 (UTC)
And you believe the puppet master is Mwalla?--SKATER 14:52, 25 September 2009 (UTC)
As far as I can tell. He seems to be most upset about me classifying as vandalism edits made by Ddave2425, which is a confirmed Mwalla sockpuppet. He's also clearly familiar with Misplaced Pages administrative pages, knowledge no genuine newbie would have. DKqwerty (talk) 14:56, 25 September 2009 (UTC)
Will Report ASAP, as soon as I get in a class where I can use my laptop. Gotta love geometry.--SKATER 14:59, 25 September 2009 (UTC)
Thanks. DKqwerty (talk) 15:00, 25 September 2009 (UTC)

::Hmm...Should I request Checkuser for this one? I'm still debating it.--SKATER 19:53, 25 September 2009 (UTC)

Strike that, I'm going to request it.--SKATER 20:03, 25 September 2009 (UTC)
Was anything ever submitted? I really would do it myself, but I don't know how to properly setup the report, nor the methodology for reporting an anon. user on a rotating IP. DKqwerty (talk) 15:13, 27 September 2009 (UTC)
That's the problem i'm running into, that and wheter to create a new report or merge them under the previous for Mwalla....I'm starting to think maybe ANI might be better then this, especially since were going on circumstantial evidence.--SKATER 17:09, 27 September 2009 (UTC)

Division

I'm not bad at math or anything, what I meant was that I was basically halfing the size of the image, having it as 200px size (which I tried in preview) made it too small. • GunMetal Angel 00:48, 2 October 2009 (UTC)

I know, I was just teasing. No offense intended. DKqwerty (talk) 00:50, 2 October 2009 (UTC)

October 2009 - Stalwart111

Glad we could sort that out - would have been just as happy to discuss with you directly. Re: 'national park'; I actually got there looking for something different myself and decided the disambiguation wasn't clear enough (it wasn't one of my random edits). Understand if people disagree but but non-pluralised 'national park' is used extensively in an international context and most of my additions were in 'see also' anyway. The list is actually the direct result of the search of[REDACTED] for 'national park' so suggesting they are not what someone would go searching for is mistaken. Anyway, I won't bother amending it if there is a massive movement against national park disambiguation change but I thought I'd at least explain it. Happy hunting. Stalwart111 (talk) 03:54, 2 October 2009 (UTC)

Here we go again....

blah blah blah...the song remains the same
The following discussion has been closed. Please do not modify it.

This is the second time a significant piece of information I have added to an article has deleted by some tyrant who apparently enforces som sort de facto ownership of it.

I have no intention of ruining anything, I act on Misplaced Pages written request to improve Misplaced Pages. Misplaced Pages will have a bad future if your action is standard procedure in handling good faithed contributions.

"Campus" has become what the article (now again) says, but is since America is only 200 years old, the term traditionally means what I have wrote.

The article's very American definition contradicts the real meaning of the term, since university areas is far from open spaces and America is not equivalent with the world. I am sorry, but tradition did not start with the establishment of American universities. Tradition has traditionally a long tradition.

The temp "campus" (and especially since the term "traditionally") is NOT equivilent with university araes and what do you care, apparantly you are a dane like me.

You have no idea how provocative your destructive and arbitrary action is after the time efford one has invested in improving an article, and the sentence "good-faith edit by ...... this is an article on the subject, not a dictionary entry or study of etymology" does not justify your action.

Actually it makes it worse since good faith has to be respected and in Misplaced Pages my opinion about terms origin should be stated is as good as yours.

Many articles starts with a short explaination of a term's origin.

If you respect good faith, not to mention solid facts, please undo your badly chosen action, and add something (instead of delete, (you do not own this article)),

I do not want go into an "undo" war again and afterwards being blamed for mockering, which I have experienced once before - and lecture is that contribution is not worth the efford. Actually I don't know why I still bother.

So PLEASE - I invite you to change the article so my additions is included in a way, that satisfy you.

But since you are so wise, please instruct me how to wage an editorial war in which you so obviously have have drawn first blood so we both end up being banned - my previous experience is that in a Misplaced Pages sence, on can wage a war alone.

have a nice day

80.160.207.18 (talk) 10:08, 2 October 2009 (UTC)

Dual Analog and the Rumbly things that go along with it

Hi! Noticed your edit. Had to correct it. Check the article and you'll find that the first versions of the controller, released in Japan, had rumble. Sony took it out before the US release because they didn't think it was important enough to keep in. It's sourced and referenced as well. Cheers! 208.115.94.237 (talk) 11:33, 2 October 2009 (UTC)

Actually, the claims that the Japanese model contained fore-feedback aren't sourced at all, and the initial mention of it even has a template which has existed since March 2007! Nor is the article for the DAC referenced for more than two of its claims: the release date and the justification for removing it from American versions; I'm not sure what article you were looking at, because nothing else is "sourced or referenced".
At best, the Japanese Dual Analog Controller was released to JP at the same time as the Rumble Pak, April 1997. If you'd like to rewrite the section to reflect this, be my guest. However, I will continue to argue that, because the rumble-capable DAC wasn't released to all markets (in fact, only to one) whereas the Rumble Pak was released to all major markets by Oct. '97, Sony clearly wasn't interested in supporting force-feedback until the DSC was released, which was in 1998. Basically, the fist console with full support for force-feedback in all of its markets was the Nintendo 64, which is by my definition the single most important criteria for who came first: which offered full support to all regions, not just experimented with the concept then abandoned it for a full year in most markets.
In addition, your edit also removed perfectly valid information regarding the analog stick and four controller ports. In the future, if you disagree with the content of an article, please do not remove perfectly valid content as well simply because it happens to reside in the same paragraph. Also, for the record, I didn't not add that wordage to the article, so this isn't an ownership issue; I simply object to your characterization of which came first. DKqwerty (talk) 14:28, 2 October 2009 (UTC)

Context of genetic recombination

Hi there. I think adding "during meiosis" is appropriately brief context for the lay reader when mentioning a relatively poorly understood subject like 'genetic recombination' in the Evolution article's lead section. I've left a note regarding this in an ongoing thread at Talk:Evolution#Reliance_on_wikilinking, and would like to know your thoughts. Cheers, Emw (talk) 22:08, 3 October 2009 (UTC)

Lead photo for Navel

What kind of photos did you have in mind for navel? Have you found any examples on the internet, even if it's not free copyright, just so I can get the idea of what you are searching for? Nocturnal Wanderer 22:33, 4 October 2009 (UTC)

Sandy diffs

Thank you for removing those edits from the Sandbox, clearly the person doesn't care much for privacy. Either way I've requested Suppression of the diffs. Jeffrey Mall (talkcontribs) - 02:40, 11 October 2009 (UTC)

Lost your hat?

You put the hat fold on a section of discussion on the Barack Obama article that really doesn't make a whit of sense. There is a thread about whether to include a specific clause in the article (one that moreover has been in there), about how "early in the initiative that won the Novel prize" this one was. As these things do, I confess some editors veered slightly into ranting territory. But the basic point of including or not including a clause in the article is rather centrally related to article quality. It's wholly inappropriate to hide away a topic that is directly related to a current editing issue about which good faith editors reasonably differ in opinion! LotLE×talk 19:47, 11 October 2009 (UTC)

Alright, I may have lost my hat, but there's no need to get your panties in a bunch. I made a mistake: I glazed over the top and bottom of the thread and forgot that something in the middle had substance. If you look at my history of editing on that talk page and its article, I've never "hidden away" a topic out of spite, bias, or otherwise. Plus, I participated in the thread, I knew what it was about, I just had a momentary lapse in judgment and logic. Please accept my apologies and understand I meant no offense or malice. DKqwerty (talk) 19:52, 11 October 2009 (UTC)
Not to worry, there have been times when I have myself gone out and about town, and inadvertently mislaid my hat in the process. Losing my panties during these adventures is, fortunately, far less common to my experience. Best wishes. LotLE×talk 19:59, 11 October 2009 (UTC)

October 2009

Constructive contributions to Misplaced Pages are appreciated, but a recent edit of yours has been reverted. Do not blank my messages from talkpages, when a discussion is in process. I agree with the anon's position and thus my commenting is voicing support for what they want to include regarding Fry's racism against Poles, I disagree with your position. Misplaced Pages is not communism, you don't get to "hide" messages which disagree with you. Sorry. - Yorkshirian (talk) 14:55, 13 October 2009 (UTC)

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