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Will have another source, Midwest Book Review (see review), just want to track down full cite. Cirt (talk) 22:31, 18 September 2009 (UTC)

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Does this book meet WP:BK? It clearly fails 2-5, but does it meet #1? (copied from policy page)

1. The book has been the subject of multiple, non-trivial published works appearing in sources that are independent of the book itself, with at least some of these works serving a general audience. This includes published works in all forms, such as newspaper articles, other books, television documentaries and reviews. Some of these works should contain sufficient critical commentary to allow the article to grow past a simple plot summary.
   • The immediately preceding criterion excludes media re-prints of press releases, flap copy, or other publications where the author, its publisher, agent, or other self-interested parties advertise or speak about the book.

I see a book review from What Magazine (??), and two mentions (possibly reviews?) in small news papers in Indiana and Nebraska. Can someone confirm that the treatment in the small news papers is non-trivial, and what is What Magazine?PelleSmith (talk) 21:36, 8 December 2009 (UTC)

I will do some more research. Cirt (talk) 08:06, 9 December 2009 (UTC)

Use of sources

This regards the following:

• Chrnalogar points out that mind control does not need to occur only with sever tactics, writing: "All that's needed is an environment where the information can be controlled, and more importantly, the way people perceive that information." She cites mind control characteristics identified by Robert Jay Lifton, and asserts that only six of his "psychological themes" are required in order to manipulate followers in a cult.

Wong does not discuss this book in her law article but quotes Chrnalogar and Delgado in a footnote to exemplify the fact that "he efficacy of deprogramming is based on the assumption that cult members are unwitting victims of brainwashing and mind control." Since when do we quote footnotes like this in our entries? Chrnalogar's mention in Wong is basically as a speck in the sea of deprogramming and anti-cult activity.PelleSmith (talk) 22:53, 8 December 2009 (UTC)

I have a PDF of this article and am happy to share it in case someone wants verification.PelleSmith (talk) 22:54, 8 December 2009 (UTC)

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5. ^ Wong, Catherine (Summer / Fall, 1999). "St. Thomas on Deprogramming: Is It Justifiable?". The Catholic Lawyer. 39 Catholic Law (81). The St. Thomas More Institute for Legal Research of St. John's University School of Law. {{cite journal}}: Check date values in: |date= (help)

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