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Beyond White wash, full blown censorship

Hi Jay, I need help with the demostrably bad faith censorship. http://en.wikipedia.org/Talk:On_the_Jews_and_Their_Lies#Censorship Also, it would be great to get your comment on this version as the white washing continues. http://en.wikipedia.org/Talk:Martin_Luther_and_the_Jews#Intro_Three Thanks.Doright 04:57, 30 December 2005 (UTC)

Also StanZegel is stalking me and reverting my edits. Is there an anti-stalking rule on Wiki? Can you help?Doright 08:35, 30 December 2005 (UTC)

StanZegel is continuing to stalk me and revert my edits. Here is yet another case. Please note that his only contribution to the page is the reversion of my edit. ]This is obvious bad behavior. How can such misconduct be controlled?Doright 07:26, 2 January 2006 (UTC)

Check user request

(copied from Woohookitty's talk page)

I hate to bother you with this, but I came across what may be a case of a knowledgeable Misplaced Pages user who has been creating multiple user accounts for the purpose of getting pages deleted. The two accounts that I know of are User:DisposableAccount and User:Paulcardan. Paulcardan was involved in an editing dispute at Democracy & Nature and managed to involve several administrators including User:SarekOfVulcan with the dispute, eventually leading to a vote for deletion. User:DisposableAccount was created as a puppet with the account's first edit being a comment added to the Democracy & Nature article's vote for deletion. After that effort to delete Democracy & Nature failed, DisposableAccount initiated a vote for deletion against a related article. The bickering then progressed to here: Misplaced Pages:Deletion review/The International Journal of Inclusive Democracy. What bothers me about this is that Paulcardan/DisposableAccount seems to be efficiently manipulating the article deletion system in order to settle a content dispute. Most of the administrators who have become involved in this dispute do not seem to notice or care that this is happening. I think these two user names themselves are both violations of Misplaced Pages policy, one being a statement (see the comments at User:DisposableAccount) and the other being a pen name of a real person. Could you look at the current deletion review? I'm worried that these user accounts may be for a single Misplaced Pages user who may be in the habit of making many such accounts in order to get Misplaced Pages articles deleted. --JWSchmidt 19:16, 27 December 2005 (UTC)

Could you do a checkuser for me on those 2 accounts to see if they are the same person? I suspect they are. --Woohookitty 06:51, 30 December 2005 (UTC)

User:Llbb may be another account for User:Paulcardan, created only to continue the effort to keep The International Journal of Inclusive Democracy deleted. --JWSchmidt 13:17, 30 December 2005 (UTC)

User:Marx marvelous is another account created just for a vote on one of the articles in this group of related articles that have been subject to deletion votes. --JWSchmidt 22:53, 1 January 2006 (UTC)

• Thanks for taking the time to check on this. --JWSchmidt 00:56, 2 January 2006 (UTC)

• • Yes. Thanks Jayjg! Much appreciated. --Woohookitty 02:21, 2 January 2006 (UTC)

• (sigh) Why do people in this discussion keep insisting I'm an admin?--SarekOfVulcan 02:26, 2 January 2006 (UTC)

question about arbitration

i see youre on arbritrator (or however you spell it). my question is, does accepting an arbitration mean you agree with the prosecuting party or the defense? thx, --Urthogie 09:12, 30 December 2005 (UTC)

AFD

Please note Misplaced Pages:Articles for deletion/List of terrorists. JFW | T@lk 15:04, 30 December 2005 (UTC)

2006

Hello, I wish you and your family a prosperous and happy New Year 2006! We shall surely remain actively involved in the Project Misplaced Pages. --Bhadani 17:03, 30 December 2005 (UTC)

On The Jews and Their Lies

Now they are trying to delete the article entirely. Can you help? ] Where do I report a repeated pattern of misconduct? Doright 19:08, 30 December 2005 (UTC)

Could you look at something for me?

User:Benjamin Gatti has posted several "comments on above" on his Arbcom evidence page. I thought that comments like that weren't allowed on the evidence pages. As proof that it's ok, Ben points to the Deeceevoice case, where it wasn't questioned. Could you clarify this for me? I'm also putting this on the main arbcom talk page. --Woohookitty 06:53, 31 December 2005 (UTC)

Never mind. Taken care of. --Woohookitty 07:30, 31 December 2005 (UTC)

Thanks for your RFA support

Aaron-Zalman Conflict and Satmar

Hi, I have been asked to advise concerning problems at the Satmar article, see User talk:IZAK#Aaron-Zalman Conflict and Satmar. Thanks. IZAK 05:02, 1 January 2006 (UTC)

new noticeboard

I've created Misplaced Pages:Islam and Judaism controversies noticeboard, I thought you might be interested. --Victim of signature fascism 19:19, 1 January 2006 (UTC)

Sockpuppets / Personal attacks and the 3RR

Hi Jayjg. I'd like to ask you to have a look at Islamist terrorism. I've already blocked 3 users breacking the Misplaced Pages:Three revert rule. There is a range of IP's playing the game there and I'd prefer not to use the range block. Could you please have a look or perform an IP check? Cheers -- Szvest 00:24, 2 January 2006 (UTC)

Sorry for the late thanks Jay. I appreciate it. Cheers -- Szvest 03:14, 2 January 2006 (UTC)

Periodical Jewish Affairs

The following citation appears on the On the Jews and Their Lies talk page: Jewish Affairs 39, 1 (Jan 1984) 19-23. I'm having difficulty locating it in a library. I hope to get a copy of the article for verification sake. Do you have an idea where I might get a copy? --CTSWyneken 00:50, 2 January 2006 (UTC)

Conservadox

I just expanded (a little) the Conservadox Judaism stub. Would you mind taking a look at it and let me know what you think? Benami 01:19, 2 January 2006 (UTC)

Inclusive Democracy

I would suggest that before you start making all these accusations you first get your facts straight! (I am referring to Sockpuppeting - DisposableAccount ,Paulcardan, Llbb, Bbll)

a) First of all, I don't see ANY contributions by Bbll.

b) Secondly, Llbb appeared only once and that was in a COMMENT to somebody else's COMMENT in a deletion review. There was not an issue of VOTING, nor an issue of IMPERSONATING someone to appear to have greater support of a cause, nor an attempt to CIRCUMVENT POLICY. It was simply the case that these people involved know me in real life (AND I AM REFERRING to "Wikipedians" who have NOT contributed a single edit on articles that are unrelated to their political propaganda) AND I decided that signing as Paulcardan would let them continue their dirty game of referring to who I am, not to the actual essence of the arguments that I am putting forth (as they did with User:Freakofnurture who, I think, is an administrator).

c) See above. EXACTLY THE SAME arguments hold. The only difference is an AfD that was initiated from the User:DisposableAccount account, but NONE of the other usernames you mention voted (or even took sides) in this AfD. Why don't you first read the actual dialogues and then decide whether or not to publicize your slander????????????

FINALLY AND MORE IMPORTANTLY, I find it DESPICABLE that you claim that "the technical evidence indicates" that I am sockpuppet (see above) BUT WHEN IT COMES DOWN TO OUTRIGHT POLICY VIOLATIONS LIKE User:Marx marvelous WHO SWEARS AND ATTACKS ALL OPPOSING VIEWS then you have the NERVE to say "the technical evidence tying it to the others isn't strong". WELL THEN MAKE THE TECHNICAL EVIDENCE UN-TYING STRONG BY FINDING OUT WHO THE HELL IT WAS!!!!!!!

Congratulations, you've probably just made a relatively new editor (see User:Paulcardan on my edits) with good intentions abandon Misplaced Pages for good.

Paulcardan 05:26, 2 January 2006 (UTC)

Is this article appropriate for Misplaced Pages?

A theological student named FDuffy has just created a new article called A wife confused for a sister which is totally based on bible criticism. Would you kindly look at the discussion page which I started on that article and add your comments? Thanks, Yoninah 09:50, 2 January 2006 (UTC)

Why PaulCardan should be banned

Congratulation for reavealing PaulCardan and his sockpuppets. His anger above shows that he really is in a desperate position. I think that blocking the User:Paulcardan account from editing would serve the very useful purpose of preventing him from starting again similar campaigns against the Inclusive Democracy entries. It was shown without any doubt that the sole purpose of this guy in opening the PaulCardan account (and subsequently the sockpuppets accounts) was exactly to carry on his vendetta against Inclusive Democracy. Check the history of the ‘articles he has worked on’: ALL OF THEM (apart from a minor edit on Castoriadis) were published AFTER he was denounced as using sockpuppets to delete our entries, i.e. after Dec. 26 —although his PaulCardan account was created at the end of October! It is obvious that his edits are also a cheap cover for his real aim in creating the PaulCardan account-- to use him for attacking Inclusive Democracy-- and this is why this accout has to be banned permanently.

--TheVel 18:04, 2 January 2006 (UTC)

Louis Epstein

Hi Jay, I have left a note for arbcom on the talk page of the Louis Epstein RfAr here. Louis has left Misplaced Pages so my Louis Epstein punctuation patrol will stop. I don't know where to post in order to notify all members of arbcom, so if you could to that I'd be much obliged. Thanks. Babajobu 20:31, 2 January 2006 (UTC)

Go To Discussion Pages of D&N

Jayjg,to go to the discussion pages of D&N to find our ‘what is going on’ and not seeking the truth from P.C.’s own lies, which were replied there one by one by members of the ENTIRE Editorial Board which condemned him. Clearly, there is no point in attempting to “fixing the dispute” through any sort of discussions with him and we do not have any intention to spare more of our scarce time on this guy who proved all this time that his sole activity is to plot against all our WP entries . We wonder whether History on the Inclusive Democracy project according to WP is determined on the basis of the views of a single biased user in his twenties (who carries out a personal vendetta against Takis Fotopoulos and the Inclusive Democracy project in general long ago before the WP entries were created) and not on the basis of the views of the entire Editorial Board, as well as of the founder of the ID project--in fact immediately after he left the D&N journal, when he began a clearly opportunistic campaign against us, despite the fact that all his articles in D&N were a celebration of the Inclusive Democracy project which he now classifies as a confused byproduct of Castoriadis and Bookchin’s thought. We understand that he may start a new account and begin again his campaign but at least his banning would have given a moral lesson against the sort of methods he uses to pass his point, exploiting the WP regulations (one wonders why he does not dare to support his views in any printed medium but he prefers the anonymity of WP in order to defame the ID entry!). john sargis 15:36, 2 January 2006 (UTC)

Pornographic Perpetrator

We think that what happened for that hour in the Inclusive Democracy copyvio page was horrible, and we don't want it to simply pass by. TheVel did some research and found the exact photo that was placed in ID's page that day: http://en.wikipedia.org/Image:Circpn_reduced.jpg. Is it possible for you to not only find out who retrieved this photo that day, 27 December, and put it in Inclusive Democracy's entry, but also who deleted it? Your technical research and assistance in this matter is appreciated. john sargis 20:00, 2 January 2006 (UTC)

Need for your guidance

Dear Jayjg, I would guess that the person who is making the latest edits to the Martin Luther article is a senior Wikipedian, Slim Virgin. He/she is within his/her rights to make these changes and the quotations are accurate. The only problem is that this runs roughshod over the painstaking work of coming up with a compromise. I have put up the red neutrality flag because the balance that you had proposed for this paragraph has been skewed. I would appreciate it if you would take a look at the article and make any emendations as you see fit. I appreciate the help you have provided. If I have been overhasty or obtrusive anywhere, I offer you my apology. drboisclair 09:58, 3 January 2006 (UTC)

Jayjg, you should be made aware that the matter of Doright will be coming to the ArbCom in connection with his actions in these pages.

--StanZegel (talk) 14:24, 3 January 2006 (UTC)

I guess I let the cat out of the bag by putting up the red neutrality flag on the Martin Luther article, but I would ask that it be removed because the version that is there now was the one you helped to arbitrate and is NPOV. Could the flag be removed? drboisclair 17:08, 3 January 2006 (UTC)

Sock check, if possible

Hi Jay, I'd like to bring two accounts to your attention. User:Flavius Aetius and User:Brian Brockmeyer. They edit many of the same articles, and I haev seen them on more than one occasion coming to one another's defense in editing conflicts (particularly regarding 3RR). Beyond the tag-teaming (at University of Miami and Ken Mehlman in particular), their timing is also suspect. Thanks in advance. · Katefan0/mrp 16:35, 3 January 2006 (UTC)

FYI, to avoid duplication of effort, I just noticed that a similar request has been posted to User talk:Fred Bauder by another user. Thanks. · Katefan0/mrp 18:05, 3 January 2006 (UTC)

24.186.219.3 = 66.254.232.219 = Brian Brockmeyer = Almeidaisgod = Flavius Aetius Fred Bauder 18:13, 3 January 2006 (UTC)