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i am confused by your message on ANI. are you saying that it's unclear as to whether tothwolf has violated his restrictions? also, you said that he shouldn't rehash the same allegations over and over without providing new evidence, and his next message was exactly that. the community has done nothing to stop his behavior because he posts 2000 word manifestos which never address the issue, and which exhaust people's patience. so his behavior went to arbcom, and he was restricted from making these unsupported allegations. and yet that is exactly what he's back to doing. in that ANI thread he accused me of harassing his friends off wiki. how can this be acceptable from someone who is specifically restricted against this? ] (]) 03:28, 21 February 2010 (UTC) i am confused by your message on ANI. are you saying that it's unclear as to whether tothwolf has violated his restrictions? also, you said that he shouldn't rehash the same allegations over and over without providing new evidence, and his next message was exactly that. the community has done nothing to stop his behavior because he posts 2000 word manifestos which never address the issue, and which exhaust people's patience. so his behavior went to arbcom, and he was restricted from making these unsupported allegations. and yet that is exactly what he's back to doing. in that ANI thread he accused me of harassing his friends off wiki. how can this be acceptable from someone who is specifically restricted against this? ] (]) 03:28, 21 February 2010 (UTC)
:What I'm saying is that if you think arbitration enforcement is getting it wrong, ask for clarification from ArbCom. They will either tell you that AE got it wrong, or that AE were right and you are wrong. Did you file a request for arbitration enforcement? What I'm also saying is that if Tothwolf thinks the case decision was wrong, he needs to appeal the case, not carry on with the same accusations. ] (]) 17:16, 21 February 2010 (UTC) :What I'm saying is that if you think arbitration enforcement is getting it wrong, ask for clarification from ArbCom. They will either tell you that AE got it wrong, or that AE were right and you are wrong. Did you file a request for arbitration enforcement? What I'm also saying is that if Tothwolf thinks the case decision was wrong, he needs to appeal the case, not carry on with the same accusations. ] (]) 17:16, 21 February 2010 (UTC)

== Note on allegations of plagiarism ==

I've been following the discussion with interest, mainly because it came to my attention that in at least one fragment of the IRC discussions mentioned at that AN thread, one of the IRC participants raised similar concerns about articles that I've edited and created. Rather than post in that thread (and increase any attendant drama), I am posting a note here to indicate that I'm aware that such allegations have been made on IRC. Like Roger, I take such allegations very seriously, and like Roger my view is that such concerns should always be raised directly first with the editors concerned, on article and user talk pages, to enable them to respond, before matters are escalated to a noticeboard as was done in this case (and certainly not allowed to grow as rumours on IRC or off-wiki sites). Regardless of that, now that I am aware of such concerns, I intend, over the next few days, to go through a list of the articles I've created and heavily edited (though I don't have a complete listing of the latter), to see what improvements and changes can or need to be made. Ideally, everyone would do this regularly anyway, and/or when concerns like this are raised. While that is being done, I would ask that anyone with concerns please raise them with me first, or point me to the talk page of any articles that need discussion. ] (]) 01:40, 23 February 2010 (UTC)

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I was appointed as an arbitrator for a 2-year term following the ArbCom elections of December 2008, For details, a brief summary of my approach to arbitration, and the pledges I made during the election, please see this page. I will update this talk page notice at intervals throughout my term as I make updates to that page. If you have a question or request relating to arbitration, please leave a note on this talk page, or e-mail me. Carcharoth (talk) 12:22, 15 February 2009 (UTC) Archive

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WikiCup 2010 January newsletter

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Fromelles

Original message

Sure, certainly, merge them in. I was thinking this would be good for ITN as well: it's not often you get a new cemetery for WWI dead... There's a fair amount of material at Battle of Fromelles which should probably be taken over as well. On a similar note, have you seen our new articles on V.C. Corner Australian Cemetery and Memorial and Peter Corlett? Physchim62 (talk) 00:26, 1 February 2010 (UTC)

Heh, I had plans for that one as well (V.C. Corner Australian Cemetery and Memorial - see also the list here). The trouble was that it is very difficult to find out the background history to that memorial (to the missing) because all the news coverage is of that statue you've pointed out (though even that is now being drowned out by the coverage of this new cemetery). I tried for ages to find out when it was unveiled, and gave up. The location you give for the statue is slightly off though. The statue is in the Parc Mémorial Australien de Fromelles, which is actually just down the road from the cemetery and memorial (see the map here). Things will get even more confused now with this new Fromelles cemetery! Carcharoth (talk) 00:48, 1 February 2010 (UTC)
This aerial image shows how close the two are! I reckon that to be just over 100 metres. I've corrected the article V.C. Corner Australian Cemetery and Memorial to point out that the two sites are actually separate. Physchim62 (talk) 15:01, 4 February 2010 (UTC)
Thanks. I added some details of when and who opened it. As for the V.C. Corner one, the only source I found saying when it opened is here, which says "constructed between 1920 and 1921". I suspect that was the cemetery, as the memorials tended to be later, though other sources do hint at a date in the early 1920s. Carcharoth (talk) 01:51, 5 February 2010 (UTC)

Semi-protection of Super Bowl players BLPs

Please read and comment on my observation of extensive vandalism to Nate Kaeding's article two weeks ago, and on my request to semiprotect all the articles of players in Super Bowl XLIV for the next two weeks until a week after the game ends. Chutznik (talk) 03:44, 1 February 2010 (UTC)

Hopefully something will be sorted out at that discussion. I'm afraid I have other things to attend to tonight. Carcharoth (talk) 20:18, 1 February 2010 (UTC)

Sockpuppet

I would like you to perform a checkuser on 09jamieboro (talk · contribs) to see if he have created another account to bypass the block as he said he would in his unblock request. Thanks! --Tyw7  (Talk • Contributions)   Changing the world one edit at a time! 13:56, 1 February 2010 (UTC)

Please follow KnightLago's advice here. Carcharoth (talk) 20:16, 1 February 2010 (UTC)
EVen though I don't know his puppet User names? --Tyw7  (Talk • Contributions)   Changing the world one edit at a time! 06:05, 2 February 2010 (UTC)
Yes. The checkusers and clerks there will tell you if a check is needed or not. Carcharoth (talk) 09:04, 2 February 2010 (UTC)

ITN for Fromelles (Pheasant Wood) Military Cemetery

Current events globe On 3 February 2010, In the news was updated with a news item that involved the article Fromelles (Pheasant Wood) Military Cemetery, which you co-nominated and substantially updated. If you know of another interesting news item involving a recently created or updated article, then please suggest it on the candidates page.

Great work on expanding that article, it's very comprehensive now - Dumelow (talk) 11:46, 3 February 2010 (UTC)

Credit for the nomination should really be shared, as both Carcharoth and I had the idea to nominate independently, and Carcharoth did most of the hard work to get the article up to a standard where it could be posted. Physchim62 (talk) 12:49, 3 February 2010 (UTC)
Yep, no problem. I missed Carcharoth's request at ITN/C but that seems fair enough - Dumelow (talk) 16:07, 3 February 2010 (UTC)
Thanks, both of you, good to see the article up there. Carcharoth (talk) 00:59, 5 February 2010 (UTC)

Photo request (Fromelles (Pheasant Wood) Military Cemetery)

Carcharoth, Why don't you put this request on fr:wiki? I did on a couple of occasions & got results. Cordialement, --Frania W. (talk) 14:20, 3 February 2010 (UTC)

Déjà fait! ici ;) Physchim62 (talk) 15:39, 3 February 2010 (UTC)
Good idea, Frania, and thanks again Physchim. I did find some pictures on Flickr, so another idea would be to write to people who uploaded pictures there, and I also found this website, which has some great pictures. Carcharoth (talk) 01:46, 5 February 2010 (UTC)

The Military history WikiProject Newsletter : XLVII (January 2010)

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Congratulations!

You are one of the six editors advancing into the final round of the Henry Allingham World War I Contest. The final round started at 00:00, 11 February and ends 23:59, 10 March. The top three ranked players at the end of this round will become winners of the contest and receive special prizes! Keep up the good work! --Eurocopter (talk) 12:21, 12 February 2010 (UTC)

You are advised not to reply before 2011

I stumbled upon User talk:NoSeptember/Leaving#Similar pledges a few hours ago and decided to continue what is turning into a remarkable time-lapse discussion. I suppose there are several factors at work here, but it got me thinking about a more general matter: replying to messages on talk pages (mostly of articles) which may be one, two or even four years old. In high-traffic pages they will have been long archived, but if this isn't the case, is there anything preventing one from replying? Not, of course, for the sake of the inquirer (even though there is no guarantee that they will not happen to return after a long time to check), but for those who may read the talk page and have the same questions. I have mostly refrained from doing this, but I am now wondering whether I should be doing it more often. After all, these fora are all public, and the idea of a discussion between two or three individuals is illusory, even if nobody else intervenes at the time. Waltham, The Duke of 09:17, 16 February 2010 (UTC)

Add a "public interest" clause to Oversight

A proposal to add a "public interest" clause to Misplaced Pages:Oversight has started at Wikipedia_talk:Oversight#Proposal_for_new_.27public_interest.27_clause. SilkTork * 10:07, 17 February 2010 (UTC)

List of tallest residential buildings in the world

I have nominated this article for Feature list, "LIST OF TALLEST RESIDENTIAL BUILDINGS IN THE WORLD" i need your help regarding, gramatical mistakes,and copy editing my purpose is to make this article perfect or close to perfection, so that it would for sure become a feature list.

Nabil rais2008 (talk) 12:41, 17 February 2010 (UTC)

ANI

i am confused by your message on ANI. are you saying that it's unclear as to whether tothwolf has violated his restrictions? also, you said that he shouldn't rehash the same allegations over and over without providing new evidence, and his next message was exactly that. the community has done nothing to stop his behavior because he posts 2000 word manifestos which never address the issue, and which exhaust people's patience. so his behavior went to arbcom, and he was restricted from making these unsupported allegations. and yet that is exactly what he's back to doing. in that ANI thread he accused me of harassing his friends off wiki. how can this be acceptable from someone who is specifically restricted against this? Theserialcomma (talk) 03:28, 21 February 2010 (UTC)

What I'm saying is that if you think arbitration enforcement is getting it wrong, ask for clarification from ArbCom. They will either tell you that AE got it wrong, or that AE were right and you are wrong. Did you file a request for arbitration enforcement? What I'm also saying is that if Tothwolf thinks the case decision was wrong, he needs to appeal the case, not carry on with the same accusations. Carcharoth (talk) 17:16, 21 February 2010 (UTC)

Note on allegations of plagiarism

I've been following the discussion here with interest, mainly because it came to my attention that in at least one fragment of the IRC discussions mentioned at that AN thread, one of the IRC participants raised similar concerns about articles that I've edited and created. Rather than post in that thread (and increase any attendant drama), I am posting a note here to indicate that I'm aware that such allegations have been made on IRC. Like Roger, I take such allegations very seriously, and like Roger my view is that such concerns should always be raised directly first with the editors concerned, on article and user talk pages, to enable them to respond, before matters are escalated to a noticeboard as was done in this case (and certainly not allowed to grow as rumours on IRC or off-wiki sites). Regardless of that, now that I am aware of such concerns, I intend, over the next few days, to go through a list of the articles I've created and heavily edited (though I don't have a complete listing of the latter), to see what improvements and changes can or need to be made. Ideally, everyone would do this regularly anyway, and/or when concerns like this are raised. While that is being done, I would ask that anyone with concerns please raise them with me first, or point me to the talk page of any articles that need discussion. Carcharoth (talk) 01:40, 23 February 2010 (UTC)