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:::There's no original research in the article. Everything is confirmed with at least one reliable source. I did not express my point of view. It is Kennedy's points of view. As a matter of fact I tried to soften it (I am not sure I had the right to do it) For example, Kennedy said: "Jews have "an undying spirit" ". Do you know what he said next? "The Arabs would never have" I cut Kennedy off because Misplaced Pages should be neutral, but once again did I have the right to do it? Please see . Kennedy also said about Arabs: "I just wish they did not have that oil" (the same page). I did not add that quote to the article. I am not interested in continuing our discussion here. There's the deletion page for doing that.--] (]) 02:11, 12 March 2010 (UTC) | :::There's no original research in the article. Everything is confirmed with at least one reliable source. I did not express my point of view. It is Kennedy's points of view. As a matter of fact I tried to soften it (I am not sure I had the right to do it) For example, Kennedy said: "Jews have "an undying spirit" ". Do you know what he said next? "The Arabs would never have" I cut Kennedy off because Misplaced Pages should be neutral, but once again did I have the right to do it? Please see . Kennedy also said about Arabs: "I just wish they did not have that oil" (the same page). I did not add that quote to the article. I am not interested in continuing our discussion here. There's the deletion page for doing that.--] (]) 02:11, 12 March 2010 (UTC) | ||
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I would like to ask you to WP:GETOVERIT. Thanks. –Turian (talk) 16:49, 7 March 2010 (UTC)
- Dear Turian, I am afraid I cannot get over it because I never was on it, and I never was on it because the proposal you've made was way too silly (to say the least) to care about it. BTW my very favorite quote is: "There is no sin except stupidity" by Oscar Wilde. I share it only with very few people. For some reason I'd like to share it with you. I hope you'll like it too. Please have a nice day.--Mbz1 (talk) 17:06, 7 March 2010 (UTC)
- I'm sad to see that you are so butthurt over the whole entire process you wish to drag me into your quibbling. –Turian (talk) 17:09, 7 March 2010 (UTC)
- I am not. I would have understood you,if you were to propose to block me for edit warring, to place me under 1RR restriction, I would not have complained about that at all, but to propose to topic ban me on the articles concerning Jews??? What in the world were you thinking about? Please see here. User Jaakobou proposed to block me for 72 hours. Have I said a single word in my deffence? No. If I deserved to be blocked, let it be, but topic ban on the articles related to Jews...Oh well.--Mbz1 (talk) 17:20, 7 March 2010 (UTC)
- I proposed to topic ban you from any article Vexorg edited, which included those. Learn to read, then come talk to me. –Turian (talk) 17:39, 7 March 2010 (UTC)
- You are being rude, but that's OK. I do not get upset over rudeness of some special people. You are one of them. Do you really believe I care about vexorg edits of music, and/or plant articles? Do you believe I really care even, when it claims that "Russia is NOT in Europe" to remove the whole section section from Al-Qaeda involvement in Europe? If you do, I'd say you deserve a second quote (you'd be the first person I share not just one, but two of my favorite quotes:)) Here it is: "'Tis better to be silent and be thought a fool, than to speak and remove all doubt" by Abraham Lincoln. Anyway... I do not think it is a good idea to continue our conversation, but I believe you still did not realize that the only article I had a "pleasure" to revert WP:POV and WP:BLP violations by vexorg was Rothschild family.All the user's others WP:POVs and WP:BLPs were, and are being reverted by the other users Please have a nice day. --Mbz1 (talk) 18:22, 7 March 2010 (UTC)
- Way to miss the point. But don't worry, I have no need to bother you. I completely forgot about it until popped up on my watchlist. Time to remove it! –Turian (talk) 18:34, 7 March 2010 (UTC)
- "Way to miss the point"? That's right, now you're speaking at last! I am glad you agreed with me that you are missing the point! Maybe it is the time to take one of the stupidity quotes I presented you with off :) I'll think about this. In a meantime adieu, and thank you for the nice laugh :)--Mbz1 (talk) 18:43, 7 March 2010 (UTC)
- I haven't been feeling so hot the last few days, but you have made me laugh. Thanks, I needed that! :>D Stellarkid (talk) 03:07, 8 March 2010 (UTC)
- I am very glad,the laugh is the best medicine! Please take care of yourself, Stellar. Best wishes.--Mbz1 (talk) 03:13, 8 March 2010 (UTC)
- I haven't been feeling so hot the last few days, but you have made me laugh. Thanks, I needed that! :>D Stellarkid (talk) 03:07, 8 March 2010 (UTC)
- "Way to miss the point"? That's right, now you're speaking at last! I am glad you agreed with me that you are missing the point! Maybe it is the time to take one of the stupidity quotes I presented you with off :) I'll think about this. In a meantime adieu, and thank you for the nice laugh :)--Mbz1 (talk) 18:43, 7 March 2010 (UTC)
- Way to miss the point. But don't worry, I have no need to bother you. I completely forgot about it until popped up on my watchlist. Time to remove it! –Turian (talk) 18:34, 7 March 2010 (UTC)
- You are being rude, but that's OK. I do not get upset over rudeness of some special people. You are one of them. Do you really believe I care about vexorg edits of music, and/or plant articles? Do you believe I really care even, when it claims that "Russia is NOT in Europe" to remove the whole section section from Al-Qaeda involvement in Europe? If you do, I'd say you deserve a second quote (you'd be the first person I share not just one, but two of my favorite quotes:)) Here it is: "'Tis better to be silent and be thought a fool, than to speak and remove all doubt" by Abraham Lincoln. Anyway... I do not think it is a good idea to continue our conversation, but I believe you still did not realize that the only article I had a "pleasure" to revert WP:POV and WP:BLP violations by vexorg was Rothschild family.All the user's others WP:POVs and WP:BLPs were, and are being reverted by the other users Please have a nice day. --Mbz1 (talk) 18:22, 7 March 2010 (UTC)
- I proposed to topic ban you from any article Vexorg edited, which included those. Learn to read, then come talk to me. –Turian (talk) 17:39, 7 March 2010 (UTC)
- I am not. I would have understood you,if you were to propose to block me for edit warring, to place me under 1RR restriction, I would not have complained about that at all, but to propose to topic ban me on the articles concerning Jews??? What in the world were you thinking about? Please see here. User Jaakobou proposed to block me for 72 hours. Have I said a single word in my deffence? No. If I deserved to be blocked, let it be, but topic ban on the articles related to Jews...Oh well.--Mbz1 (talk) 17:20, 7 March 2010 (UTC)
- I'm sad to see that you are so butthurt over the whole entire process you wish to drag me into your quibbling. –Turian (talk) 17:09, 7 March 2010 (UTC)
Will you withdraw your 3RR report against Mbz1?
Hello Vexorg. The sequence of edits which you document at WP:AN3#User:Mbz1 reported by User:Vexorg (Result: ) suggest that both you and Mbz1 should be blocked. Are you willing to withdraw your report? If so, it might be closed with no admin action. EdJohnston (talk) 19:22, 7 March 2010 (UTC)
- Thank you for the message, but I am not vexorg. I am mbz1, that's why I cannot withdraw the report that was filled by the other party. There's much more going on than the report you're referring to. If after reading all of that, you still feel as I should be blocked, please do. Of course IMO at that point it will be a punitive action rather than preventing feature disruptions. If you wish you may block me alone. I care so little about the other party that I would not like to share with it even the block :) Thanks.--Mbz1 (talk) 19:37, 7 March 2010 (UTC)
- Sorry for sending my request to the wrong person. The 3RR report is now closed as stale anyway. EdJohnston (talk) 01:11, 8 March 2010 (UTC)
- That's OK, nothing to be sorry about. Thank you you did not block me! Best wishes.--Mbz1 (talk) 01:13, 8 March 2010 (UTC)
- Sorry for sending my request to the wrong person. The 3RR report is now closed as stale anyway. EdJohnston (talk) 01:11, 8 March 2010 (UTC)
Relax
Mbz1, apologies if you felt hounded, that wasn't my intention at all but if you continue to make statements that are inconsistent with policies like WP:BATTLE and the discretionary sanctions, edit war over things you should try to resolve through discussion etc you will get yourself blocked eventually. That's not in your best interest, it's not in the best interests of the project and it's easily avoided. You don't need to treat me like an enemy because I'm not. I'm just one of the many pro-Misplaced Pages editors who want editors to stop fighting here, focus on the content and simply follow policies no matter what their personal feelings are. I know it's not always easy. Sean.hoyland - talk 05:37, 8 March 2010 (UTC)
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Read that for a reason not to restore that link. nableezy - 17:27, 8 March 2010 (UTC)
- Thanks, but why then the site is not blacklisted on Misplaced Pages?--Mbz1 (talk) 17:34, 8 March 2010 (UTC)
- Because WP:BADSITES is stillborn. Regardless whether it is on blacklist or not, you should exercise more caution in future. - Mailer Diablo 17:49, 8 March 2010 (UTC)
- I could understand the concerns about disclosing personal information, although on the other hand there is not so much to disclose, if that information is all over the NET anyway. About so-called attack sites. IMO Misplaced Pages in general, and every user in particular should not be afraid of those sites at all. Most people here are intelligent enough to see behind the screen. Removing them could make some to believe that Misplaced Pages is censored and overprotected to itself... It is interesting to see that Misplaced Pages has polices for each and every situation:) I am afraid I will never learn to comply with all of them, and one day will probably end up with indefinite ban :) Oh well.... --Mbz1 (talk) 18:04, 8 March 2010 (UTC)
- You'll be surprised at the number of incidents here, where people failed to see behind the screen and blew it. In any case, it is our responsibility here to do whatever we can to limit real-life harm to other people here, however bad it might be elsewhere. :) - Mailer Diablo 18:37, 8 March 2010 (UTC)
- Okay, thank you for the lesson. Today I've learned two more WIKI policies to follow. Would I ever learn the rest :)--Mbz1 (talk) 18:51, 8 March 2010 (UTC)
- You'll be surprised at the number of incidents here, where people failed to see behind the screen and blew it. In any case, it is our responsibility here to do whatever we can to limit real-life harm to other people here, however bad it might be elsewhere. :) - Mailer Diablo 18:37, 8 March 2010 (UTC)
March 2010
Welcome to Misplaced Pages. Although everyone is welcome to contribute constructively to the encyclopedia, we would like to remind you not to attack other editors. Please comment on the contributions and not the contributors. Take a look at the welcome page to learn more about contributing to this encyclopedia. Thank you. –Turian (talk) 19:39, 8 March 2010 (UTC)
- Oh, hi, Turian, I was so upset yesterday after you said "adieu". Welcome back! I am still in a laughing mood, you know :)--Mbz1 (talk) 19:45, 8 March 2010 (UTC)
- I didn't expect you to remain uncivil in basically everything you do. Oh wait, I did. –Turian (talk) 19:54, 8 March 2010 (UTC)
- You are getting hard to understand. On the one hand you explained your "adieu" with that "I didn't expect you to remain uncivil in basically everything you do", on the other hand you said "Oh wait, I did." So you left because you did not, or because you did, or because you thought you did not, or because you thought you did, or because you did not think at all :) Ah, who cares? Please do come back as often as you wish. You could make me laugh, and it is a good thing, isn't it?--Mbz1 (talk) 20:02, 8 March 2010 (UTC)
- Hey, Turian, I hope you're still around, aren't you? I was so astonished over your fortunate reappearance at my talk page that I forgot to thank you for the message. I am glad you're finally realized that "Learn to read, then come talk to me" was an attack, and that you should try, to "comment on the contributions and not the contributors".--Mbz1 (talk) 21:22, 8 March 2010 (UTC)
- You are getting hard to understand. On the one hand you explained your "adieu" with that "I didn't expect you to remain uncivil in basically everything you do", on the other hand you said "Oh wait, I did." So you left because you did not, or because you did, or because you thought you did not, or because you thought you did, or because you did not think at all :) Ah, who cares? Please do come back as often as you wish. You could make me laugh, and it is a good thing, isn't it?--Mbz1 (talk) 20:02, 8 March 2010 (UTC)
- I didn't expect you to remain uncivil in basically everything you do. Oh wait, I did. –Turian (talk) 19:54, 8 March 2010 (UTC)
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It is gratifying to see collaborative efforts reap success. You applied the suggestions well and others helped. Use these ideas to improve other articles and mentor other editors as well. Above all, focus your energies in the arena of ideas and not on others' online personalities and behavior. WP is not a contest it is an encyclopedia. PS, Your photography is truly outstanding. Thanks again.--Mike Cline (talk) 10:26, 10 March 2010 (UTC)
- Thank you for commenting on my pictures, Mike. I was rather pleasantly surprised to find out that from thousands upon thousands images, which are uploaded to Wikimedia Commons every year, Wikimedia foundation selected 25 for its annual report 2008-2009,two of which were mine and please see page 9.Those were not even my best. I've ought to be good :) Best wishes.--Mbz1 (talk) 21:31, 10 March 2010 (UTC)
Edit summaries
Please stop personalizing things by using edit summaries such as "Drork was right!" For one thing, I don't think DrorK commented about your article about Robert Kennedy in Palestine. For another, I don't know what you mean by it, but I consider it to be a personal attack, since DrorK frequently attacked me. So please stop it. Thank you. — Malik Shabazz /Stalk 19:08, 11 March 2010 (UTC)
- Now, it is interesting: you do not know what it means, but you consider "it to be a personal attack", and why you consider it to be a PA? Because "DrorK frequently attacked" you? Oh well... Guilty as charged, I've nothing to add in my defense... except maybe... Should I share with you one of my favorites quotes like that one for example "I love talking about nothing. It is the only thing I know anything about." :) Oscar Wilde and --Mbz1 (talk) 19:20, 11 March 2010 (UTC)
- In the AfD for your article, you are practically begging people to help you. And yet almost every person who comments there with any sort of critique is (or has been subject) to your attacks. Do you think that's the way to build collaborative editing environment? How do expect people to help you when you keep biting their hands? Tiamut 20:04, 11 March 2010 (UTC)
- Dear Tiamut, so far I am accused in only one PA in particular slapping admin Malik Shabazz with... user Drork :) If you could confirm yours "And yet almost every person who comments there with any sort of critique is (or has been subject) to your attacks" with differences let's talk, otherwise please stop intimidating me at my talk page, and go away with this quote: "A lie can travel halfway around the world while the truth is still putting on its shoes" Mark Twain and --Mbz1 (talk) 20:30, 11 March 2010 (UTC)
- Your party Mbz1. If you want to continue your rude indirect insults, you are certinly free to. Enjoy. (Just you wait Henry Higgins, just you wait ...) Tiamut 20:52, 11 March 2010 (UTC)
- So, I assume there are no differences to be presented of me attacking "almost every person who comments there with any sort of critique", except of course slapping admin Malik Shabazz with... user Drork? No? Then it is a time for the party: "I could have danced all night, I could have danced all night,And still have begged for more..." BTW I wish I were Henry Higgins, I mean I wish I knew English as he did, then I would have known better how to respond... In a meantime “If it is a Miracle, any sort of evidence will answer, but if it is a Fact, proof is necessary” Mark Twain and --Mbz1 (talk) 21:08, 11 March 2010 (UTC)
- Your party Mbz1. If you want to continue your rude indirect insults, you are certinly free to. Enjoy. (Just you wait Henry Higgins, just you wait ...) Tiamut 20:52, 11 March 2010 (UTC)
Robert Kennedy in Palestine (1948)
I've noticed that you've made repeated comments asking for help with this article, and that you have said you have had difficulty writing this article because English is not your first language and that you have no experience writing such articles. In that case may I offer some advice and present the possibility of keeping the article as a "userspace draft" until it is of quality to be displayed in the mainspace of the encyclopedia? This will give you time to get the help you need. Simply create a user subpage and put the {{userspace draft}} tag on it. Remember there is no rush to get anything in to Misplaced Pages, so you should take the time you need. Factsontheground (talk) 01:12, 12 March 2010 (UTC)
- That's right, I did, but I hope you also noticed that me, and one kind IP have improved the article? IMO it is good enough to stay, where it is. It is notable because everything that is connected to Robert Kennedy is, it is supported with few reliable sources, and it is interesting. If there some problems with my writing style, that always could be improved. It is a short article, and Robert F. Kennedy, not me, is the one, who speaks the most there. Of course, if ones, who voted to delete it, are doing it because becauseThey just don't like it it cannot be helped. Gatoclass was the most vocal in his/her delete vote, not counting yourself of course. First he/she calls Kennedy's writings "rant", then, when asked, he/she tells me that it is my own writings that is "rant", then, when I questioned it again, he/she crosses out the word "rant" , but writes that Kennedy "sound like a cheerleader for Zionism." After that last comment I had no doubt about user's vote. he/she voted to delete the article because... well, because he/she just doesn't like it. --Mbz1 (talk) 01:46, 12 March 2010 (UTC)
- If you don't recognize that delete voters have legitimate concerns about original research, sourcing and neutral point of view then I don't expect that you are going to be able to improve that article very much. You ask for help, but when neutral parties provide legitimate criticisms of your article you dismiss it outright as wp:idonotlikeit even though the criticisms are based upon specific Misplaced Pages policies. Factsontheground (talk) 01:51, 12 March 2010 (UTC)
- There's no original research in the article. Everything is confirmed with at least one reliable source. I did not express my point of view. It is Kennedy's points of view. As a matter of fact I tried to soften it (I am not sure I had the right to do it) For example, Kennedy said: "Jews have "an undying spirit" ". Do you know what he said next? "The Arabs would never have" I cut Kennedy off because Misplaced Pages should be neutral, but once again did I have the right to do it? Please see page 76. Kennedy also said about Arabs: "I just wish they did not have that oil" (the same page). I did not add that quote to the article. I am not interested in continuing our discussion here. There's the deletion page for doing that.--Mbz1 (talk) 02:11, 12 March 2010 (UTC)
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