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: Ncmvocalist, I appreciate your effort with this proposal, and your input at the now closed ANI discussion. Actually, me staying away from the article on ] (and related ones) might have benefits for me, as the three latest blocks of me were related to it - or rather to others having rather odd ideas about it, and me getting punished for not swallowing them with a smile. As for the question: Ncmvocalist, may I ask you if you would accept to avoid editing your home country article and talk page in exchange for an unrelated foreigner doing the same? -- ] ] 22:21, 19 March 2010 (UTC) | : Ncmvocalist, I appreciate your effort with this proposal, and your input at the now closed ANI discussion. Actually, me staying away from the article on ] (and related ones) might have benefits for me, as the three latest blocks of me were related to it - or rather to others having rather odd ideas about it, and me getting punished for not swallowing them with a smile. As for the question: Ncmvocalist, may I ask you if you would accept to avoid editing your home country article and talk page in exchange for an unrelated foreigner doing the same? -- ] ] 22:21, 19 March 2010 (UTC) | ||
::I'd give such an area a break even if the other side continues to edit the article; an agreement of this sort is more of a rare luxury than something that commonly happens on-wiki. Staying away from the area you are most passionate about can be really useful, and I also think it would be beneficial for each individual. You may of course disagree, and you're not being forced to sign the agreement, but it's there...for now anyway. Do have a think about it. Regards, ] (]) 09:49, 20 March 2010 (UTC) |
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Ich denke am vielversprechendsten wäre es vorerst nur die FRG/GER Fusion zu unterstützenden. Wenn ich mir die zurückliegenden Versuche anschaue hier einen Konsens zu erlangen, denke ich, dass hier die Logik am meisten überzeugt. Wäre schön wenn Du die Variante unterstützen könntest. Es sieht so aus als wenn hier langer Atem und konsequentes Argumentieren notwendig wäre. Cheers KarlMathiessen (talk) 22:43, 23 February 2010 (UTC)
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I'd appreciate your comment on this. Sandstein 09:08, 17 March 2010 (UTC)
March 2010
To enforce an arbitration decision, you have been blocked for a period of 48 hours from editing. Once the block has expired, you are welcome to make constructive contributions. If you believe this block is unjustified, you may appeal it by adding the text{{unblock|Your reason here}}
below; but you should read our guide to appealing arbitration enforcement blocks first. Sandstein 22:58, 17 March 2010 (UTC)
Notice to administrators: In a 2010 decision, the Committee held that "Administrators are prohibited from reversing or overturning (explicitly or in substance) any action taken by another administrator pursuant to the terms of an active arbitration remedy, and explicitly noted as being taken to enforce said remedy, except: (a) with the written authorization of the Committee, or (b) following a clear, substantial, and active consensus of uninvolved editors at a community discussion noticeboard (such as WP:AN or WP:ANI). If consensus in such discussions is hard to judge or unclear, the parties should submit a request for clarification on the proper page. Any administrator that overturns an enforcement action outside of these circumstances shall be subject to appropriate sanctions, up to and including desysopping, at the discretion of the Committee."
This is a block per WP:DIGWUREN#Discretionary sanctions for your nationalist WP:BATTLEground conduct and harrassment at as discussed at . Please stop this. Sandstein 23:00, 17 March 2010 (UTC)
- This is an unacceptable statement by Sandstein. Shame on you. -- Matthead Discuß 00:05, 18 March 2010 (UTC)
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What? Loosmark follows me around, provoking me repeatedly, and Sandstein blocks me? What a lop-sided act. No wonder admin Sandstein was recommended on the EEML mailing list, and Loosmark has chosen to complain on his talk, successfully. Somewhere, somebody is laughing his ass off.
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Procedural decline: A reviewing administrator is not allowed to unblock unilaterally someone who an administrator blocked to enforce an ArbCom decision. Please see WP:AEBLOCK for instructions on how to properly appeal this block. NW (Talk) 23:17, 17 March 2010 (UTC)
If you want to make any further unblock requests, please read the guide to appealing blocks first, then use the {{unblock}} template again. If you make too many unconvincing or disruptive unblock requests, you may be prevented from editing this page until your block has expired. Do not remove this unblock review while you are blocked.
Uh, what? Special rules? A blocking admin just has to claim he enforces an Arbcom decision, and the block must not be questioned by another admin? Beats me. -- Matthead Discuß 23:25, 17 March 2010 (UTC)
- There are indeed special rules, but that doesn't mean the block is unquestionable. Feel free to appeal using the {{sanction appeal}} template. NW (Talk) 23:27, 17 March 2010 (UTC)
Appeal by Matthead
Moved to AN. NW (Talk) 03:25, 18 March 2010 (UTC)
- So that you know what is going on, the template you filled out is the start of a community discussion, which will take place on the Administrator's noticeboard. This discussion will examine the situation that led to this block, and determine if it should be lifted or (if it takes too long, which in this case is quite possible) noted in your block log as improper. If you have further comments to make in regards to this discussion, post them here, and they will be transferred over to AN by another editor. This procedure is required for Arbitration Enforcement blocks, as these are made under the authority of the Arbitration Committee, and cannot be unilaterally undone by any single administrator, only with the written consent of the Committee or a community consensus. Hersfold 03:32, 18 March 2010 (UTC)
- At Misplaced Pages:Administrators'_noticeboard#Appeal_by_Matthead, there is a trial in which I have no chance to defend myself, as I am still blocked, while Sandstein and Loosmark are allowed to participate. Very fair procedure. -- Matthead Discuß 13:44, 18 March 2010 (UTC)
Voluntary agreement
Do you accept the terms outlined with respect to you here? Ncmvocalist (talk) 14:06, 19 March 2010 (UTC)
- Ncmvocalist, I appreciate your effort with this proposal, and your input at the now closed ANI discussion. Actually, me staying away from the article on West Germany (and related ones) might have benefits for me, as the three latest blocks of me were related to it - or rather to others having rather odd ideas about it, and me getting punished for not swallowing them with a smile. As for the question: Ncmvocalist, may I ask you if you would accept to avoid editing your home country article and talk page in exchange for an unrelated foreigner doing the same? -- Matthead Discuß 22:21, 19 March 2010 (UTC)
- I'd give such an area a break even if the other side continues to edit the article; an agreement of this sort is more of a rare luxury than something that commonly happens on-wiki. Staying away from the area you are most passionate about can be really useful, and I also think it would be beneficial for each individual. You may of course disagree, and you're not being forced to sign the agreement, but it's there...for now anyway. Do have a think about it. Regards, Ncmvocalist (talk) 09:49, 20 March 2010 (UTC)