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*Done most on the lists above, but these are not complete are they? - does Giotto really appear twice (as an architect too)? ] (]) 18:32, 18 May 2008 (UTC) *Done most on the lists above, but these are not complete are they? - does Giotto really appear twice (as an architect too)? ] (]) 18:32, 18 May 2008 (UTC)
**Are the schools complete? I wouldn't have a clue. There is a Victorian analysis in the external links now, which goes into detail on the poets, musicians, and painters. Maybe that will help? As for the duplicates, there are quite a few (seems a bit unfair, really, but maybe they didn't have that many to fill in the gaps or something back then? It is interesting seeing the differences between then and now). Anyway the duplicates, from a post I made at ] (who supplied the photos): <blockquote>"Michelangelo is also in one of the mosaics (he was "skied to the mosiacs" as they called it then, along with David and Solomon, who don't appear in the frieze). Phidias is up in the mosiacs as well, along with Ictinus, Raphael and Homer. Funnily enough, Apelles is only in the mosaics, despite not being a legendary biblical figure like David and Solomon (the reason they were left out of the 'secular' frieze). In the frieze, I think the duplicates were Rhoecus (sculptor and architect), Giotto (painter and architect) and Michelangelo (painter and sculptor), and maybe some others I missed."</blockquote> Does that help? ] (]) 18:40, 18 May 2008 (UTC) **Are the schools complete? I wouldn't have a clue. There is a Victorian analysis in the external links now, which goes into detail on the poets, musicians, and painters. Maybe that will help? As for the duplicates, there are quite a few (seems a bit unfair, really, but maybe they didn't have that many to fill in the gaps or something back then? It is interesting seeing the differences between then and now). Anyway the duplicates, from a post I made at ] (who supplied the photos): <blockquote>"Michelangelo is also in one of the mosaics (he was "skied to the mosiacs" as they called it then, along with David and Solomon, who don't appear in the frieze). Phidias is up in the mosiacs as well, along with Ictinus, Raphael and Homer. Funnily enough, Apelles is only in the mosaics, despite not being a legendary biblical figure like David and Solomon (the reason they were left out of the 'secular' frieze). In the frieze, I think the duplicates were Rhoecus (sculptor and architect), Giotto (painter and architect) and Michelangelo (painter and sculptor), and maybe some others I missed."</blockquote> Does that help? ] (]) 18:40, 18 May 2008 (UTC)

== Featured picture and article traffic ==

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List from Albert Memorial

Poets and Musicians

South face of the frieze

The poets and musicians, on the memorial's south face, are: (French) Auber, Méhul, Rameau, Lulli, Grétry, Josquin Deprez, (Italian)Rossini, Monteverde, Carissimi, Palestrina, Guido d'Arezzo, Saint Ambrose, (mixed) Corneille, Moliere, Cervantes, Virgil, Dante, Pythagorus, Homer, Chaucer, Shakespeare, Milton, (German) Goethe, Schiller, Bach, Gluck, Handel, Mozart, Mendelssohn, Haydn, Weber, Beethoven, (English) Tallis, Gibbons, Lawes, Purcell, Arne, Boyce, and Bishop.

Painters

East face of the frieze

The painters, on the memorial's east face, are: (English) Turner, Wilkie, Reynolds, Gainsborough, Hogarth, ("Northern": Dutch/Flemish/German) Rembrandt, Rubens, Holbein, Albrecht Durer, Hubert van Eyck, John Van Eyck, Stephen of Cologne, (Italian) Cimabue, Orcagna, Giotto, Angelico, Ghirlandajo, Masaccio, Da Vinci, Raffaelle, Michelangelo, Bellini, Titian, Mantegna, Veronese, Tintoretto, Correggio, Annibale Carracci and Ludovico Carracci, (Spanish) Velasquez, Murillo, (French) Poussin and Claude, David, Gerard, Gericault, Delacroix, Vernet, Delaroche, Ingres, and Decamps.

Architects

North face of the frieze

The architects, on the memorial's north face, are: Pugin, Scott, Cockerell, Barry, Chambers, Vanbrugh, Wren, Inigo Jones, Mansart, Thorpe, Palladio, Vignola, Delorme, Sansovino, San Gallo, Peruzzi, Bramante, William of Wykeham, Alberti, Brunelleschi, Giotto, Arnolfo Di Lapo, Ermin Van Steinbach, Jehan de Chelles, Robert de Courcy, William of Sens, William the Englishman, Abbe Suger, Anthemius, Appollodorus, Hermodorus, Callimachus, Libon, Callicrates, Ictinus, Mnesicles, Chersiphron, Metagenes, Rhoecus, Theodorus, Hiram, Bezaleel, Sennacherib, Nitocris and Cheops.

Sculptors

West face of the frieze

The sculptors, on the memorial's west face, are: a stylised Egyptian, a stylised Assyrian, Rhoecus, Dibutades, Bupalus, Phidias, Scopas, Bryaxis, Leochares, Praxiteles, Lysippus, Chares, Giuliano de Ravenna, Niccola Pisano, Ghiberti, Luca Della Robbia, William Torel, William of Ireland, Verrocchio, Donatello, Michelangelo, Torrigiano, Giovanni Da Bologna, Vischer, Bandinelli, Cellini, Baccio d'Agnolo, Gaujon, Palissy, Bontemps, Pilon, Cano, Stone, Bernini, Cibber, Puget, Gibbons, Bird, Bushnell, Roubiliac, Canova, Flaxman, David d'Angers, Thorvaldsen.

National schools and details

Can anyone identify the national schools in the poets, musicians, and painters? Also, if someone could collate the dates of all the figures, that would give an idea of the chronological stuff, and how the architects and sculptors are indeed arranged chronologically. Finally, some of the objects identified in the "detail" section could be identified in a bit more detail. Carcharoth (talk) 18:16, 18 May 2008 (UTC)

  • Done most on the lists above, but these are not complete are they? - does Giotto really appear twice (as an architect too)? Johnbod (talk) 18:32, 18 May 2008 (UTC)
    • Are the schools complete? I wouldn't have a clue. There is a Victorian analysis in the external links now, which goes into detail on the poets, musicians, and painters. Maybe that will help? As for the duplicates, there are quite a few (seems a bit unfair, really, but maybe they didn't have that many to fill in the gaps or something back then? It is interesting seeing the differences between then and now). Anyway the duplicates, from a post I made at User talk:Diliff (who supplied the photos):

      "Michelangelo is also in one of the mosaics (he was "skied to the mosiacs" as they called it then, along with David and Solomon, who don't appear in the frieze). Phidias is up in the mosiacs as well, along with Ictinus, Raphael and Homer. Funnily enough, Apelles is only in the mosaics, despite not being a legendary biblical figure like David and Solomon (the reason they were left out of the 'secular' frieze). In the frieze, I think the duplicates were Rhoecus (sculptor and architect), Giotto (painter and architect) and Michelangelo (painter and sculptor), and maybe some others I missed."

      Does that help? Carcharoth (talk) 18:40, 18 May 2008 (UTC)

Featured picture and article traffic

For a comparison of article traffic (though there are variations due to the difference of two years), compare the article viewing statistics for when this article appeared in DYK (24/05/2008 - 697 hits) and when it was mentioned with the featured picture (26/04/2010 - 14,300 hits). I don't know how that compares to the traffic for other articles mentioned in featured pictures, but the featured article on the same day (United States Academic Decathlon, 26/04/2010) got a comparable number of hits (20,600). Looking at the previous day's featured article, the bold link in the caption was to Karnak, which got 10,100 hits. For comparison, the article on the artist got 2,800 hits, the article on the hall depicted got 6,300 hits. Going back to the featured picture of the frieze and linked article, the Albert Memorial got 7,800 hits. Looking at the number of hits the pictures themselves got, we see the Karnak picture got 19,700 hits and the frieze picture got 19,700 hits. All the figures being approximate, of course, but it is still interesting to see the relative amounts of article and picture traffic generated. Carcharoth (talk) 05:42, 27 April 2010 (UTC)

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