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::The world of science has never won any Nobel Literary awards for their abuse of basic English grammar. Even WP is guilty of poor use of language and continues to cherish mistakes. An example that springs to mind is the word "media", which is the plural of "medium". When referring to an image, WP templates repeatedly write "this media" which must make the toenails curl of every editor who understands basic English. That is why I don't cite references to support the proper use of singulars and plurals - for that one will need to go back to an elementary grammar textbook. ] (]) 08:38, 11 May 2010 (UTC) ::The world of science has never won any Nobel Literary awards for their abuse of basic English grammar. Even WP is guilty of poor use of language and continues to cherish mistakes. An example that springs to mind is the word "media", which is the plural of "medium". When referring to an image, WP templates repeatedly write "this media" which must make the toenails curl of every editor who understands basic English. That is why I don't cite references to support the proper use of singulars and plurals - for that one will need to go back to an elementary grammar textbook. ] (]) 08:38, 11 May 2010 (UTC)
:::It is ] to fix "mistakes" made by ]. I am reverting the changes now. If you come up with relaible sources to support your view, we can talk again in this space about changing it back. --] (]/]) 14:41, 11 May 2010 (UTC) :::It is ] to fix "mistakes" made by ]. I am reverting the changes now. If you come up with relaible sources to support your view, we can talk again in this space about changing it back. --] (]/]) 14:41, 11 May 2010 (UTC)
It is not my job to teach you basic English - find consensus for your view before you revert. ] (]) 09:39, 13 May 2010 (UTC)

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Resonance or resonances

In the article you refer to, Orbital resonance, the title is in the singular because it deals with the process. The subheading "Types of resonance" is also singular for the same reason. The subheading further down "Mean motion resonances in the Solar System" lists a set of occurrences of Mean motion resonance in the solar system and if written properly should be "Occurrences of mean motion resonance in the Solar System" - frankly, as it appears it is excruciatingly bad grammar and should be changed, but a case could be made for using the plural since it refers to a plural notion. However, as I pointed out in my edit summary, one does not talk of hydrogen "fusions" driving the energy output from the Sun, despite the fact that any number of hydrogen nuclei are involved in the process. Feel free to consult others on the point, but please don't revert without a discussion that reaches some sort of consensus. Androstachys (talk) 15:36, 9 May 2010 (UTC)

I missed the part where you cited a reference of any kind in support of your view. You note that other WP articles do not support your view, and then make the unsupported claim that they are wrong also (not that WP is a reliable source anyway). For an actual textbook used in the field, look at the Murray and Dermott reference that I recently restored to the page. I can give other examples if you require them. Your analogy with "fusion" is not an appropriate one. When one speaks of "fusion" one is speaking of the general process. One could also speak of "resonance" if one were speaking of the general process. But when one is speaking of an individual manifestation of the process, one speaks in the singular, because only one particular Lindblad resonance can act on a particular particle at a particular time (that is, for example, a particle in a 5:4 Lindblad resonance cannot simultaneously be in any other Lindblad resonance). --BlueMoonlet (t/c) 21:30, 10 May 2010 (UTC)
The world of science has never won any Nobel Literary awards for their abuse of basic English grammar. Even WP is guilty of poor use of language and continues to cherish mistakes. An example that springs to mind is the word "media", which is the plural of "medium". When referring to an image, WP templates repeatedly write "this media" which must make the toenails curl of every editor who understands basic English. That is why I don't cite references to support the proper use of singulars and plurals - for that one will need to go back to an elementary grammar textbook. Androstachys (talk) 08:38, 11 May 2010 (UTC)
It is not Misplaced Pages's job to fix "mistakes" made by reliable sources. I am reverting the changes now. If you come up with relaible sources to support your view, we can talk again in this space about changing it back. --BlueMoonlet (t/c) 14:41, 11 May 2010 (UTC)

It is not my job to teach you basic English - find consensus for your view before you revert. Androstachys (talk) 09:39, 13 May 2010 (UTC)