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{{User|Cool Cat}} Self nom, not to be removed by burocrats or anyone else... I am not going to comment about myself, however I will say this RFA for me is a matter of honor and not ego. The length of my wikipedia editorship will be determined by this RfA since I am about to hit my full year here. – <small>]<sup>]|]</sup></small> 15:05, 25 January 2006 (UTC) | {{User|Cool Cat}} Self nom, not to be removed by burocrats or anyone else... I am not going to comment about myself, however I will say this RFA for me is a matter of honor and not ego. The length of my wikipedia editorship will be determined by this RfA since I am about to hit my full year here. – <small>]<sup>]|]</sup></small> 15:05, 25 January 2006 (UTC) | ||
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#'''Oppose'''. Some good contributions, but I have a feeling that there will be way too much ignoring of rules if Cool Cat is given adminship. ] ] 07:30, 26 January 2006 (UTC) | #'''Oppose'''. Some good contributions, but I have a feeling that there will be way too much ignoring of rules if Cool Cat is given adminship. ] ] 07:30, 26 January 2006 (UTC) | ||
#'''Vehemently Oppose'''. I can't believe you're trying to make a serious effort at RfA right after completely taking a dump on the process yesterday. ]<nowiki>]<nowiki>]</nowiki> 07:51, 26 January 2006 (UTC) | #'''Vehemently Oppose'''. I can't believe you're trying to make a serious effort at RfA right after completely taking a dump on the process yesterday. ]<nowiki>]<nowiki>]</nowiki> 07:51, 26 January 2006 (UTC) | ||
# '''Oppose''' -- see his user page: ''"This user is no longer a dedicated wikipedian and hence does not care much about wikipedia and edits for his own entertainment rather than for "great encyclopedia" as no one appriciates that."'' User seems to get into far too much trouble to be trusted with Admin Powers. Seems appropriate that he's struck-out the "<s>Cool</s>" in his UserID. Also, shouldn't this be moved? ] --> ]. --] 08:02, 26 January 2006 (UTC) | |||
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Cool Cat (talk · contribs) Self nom, not to be removed by burocrats or anyone else... I am not going to comment about myself, however I will say this RFA for me is a matter of honor and not ego. The length of my wikipedia editorship will be determined by this RfA since I am about to hit my full year here. – Cool Cat 15:05, 25 January 2006 (UTC)
Support
- Strong Support - Despite some early issues (stemming in part from his being stalked), Cool Cat has developed into a committed and dedicated Misplaced Pages. I see no evidence to suggest that he would abuse admin tools. As a committed vandal fighter, he would certainly make use of the tools. Give him a mop! Guettarda 16:23, 25 January 2006 (UTC)
- Support. In my opinion he deserves it. — FireFox • T • 17:14, 25 January 2006
- Support. Me too. Banez 17:22, 25 January 2006 (UTC)
- Support- I was a tad worried if you were still alright after you submitted your last rfa, but it seems you truly are trying to be an asset to wikipedia. Just forget about MARMOT, okay..? -17:33, 25 January 2006 (UTC)
- Support. My experiences with CC have been positive, but I don't believe that his nomination will succeed this time. Under the current system, RfA of anyone who has edited *really* controversial subjects is doomed to fail. --Ghirla | talk 17:39, 25 January 2006 (UTC)
- Support. Agree with Banes and FireFox.--ViolinGirl 17:47, 25 January 2006 (UTC)
- Support Expressing dissatisfaction and disillusionment with the process is not a bar to actually being approved through it (or rather, shouldn't be). Cool Cat obviously has the experience and seems to me unlikely to misuse admin tools. Ergo, he should be an admin. --CBD ☎ 17:54, 25 January 2006 (UTC)
- Extreme "Oh My Goodness!" support. Oh my goodness in the sense that this fantastic vandalwhacker should have been made an Admin months and months and months ago. --Celestianpower 20:33, 25 January 2006 (UTC)
- -- ( drini's page ☎ ) 20:10, 25 January 2006 (UTC)
- Extreme "I can finaly vote because there is an RFA again" support. Cool Cat removes vandalism a lot, and cool cat would not misuse admins tools as I think he has already realised that if be becomes an admin he would want it to stay that way. Also cool cat will do a great job as he wants to show how an admin should act within wikipedia's policy. --Adam1213 Talk + 00:37, 26 January 2006 (UTC)
- Weak support - Cool Cat deserves it, for what he's done, but recently his temper has flared up. He needs to learn how to keep his temper in check, but I trust he will be able to do so. NSLE (T+C) 01:10, 26 January 2006 (UTC)
- Weak support. Agree with NSLE.-gadfium 02:03, 26 January 2006 (UTC)
- King of All the Franks 02:11, 26 January 2006 (UTC)
- Strong Support Ø tVaughn05 contribs 03:32, 26 January 2006 (UTC)
- supportBenon 03:40, 26 January 2006 (UTC)
- Support. Although Cool Cat has shown some problems with controlling his temper at times, overall his positive contributions vastly outweigh any negative ones. User has an intricate knowledge of process. I feel he'll step up to the plate and will take more responsibility as an admin. Jacoplane 05:40, 26 January 2006 (UTC)
Oppose
- Oppose. First of all, I notice a lack of edit summaries. The answer to Q1 is also too brief. See also block log, which makes me very uncomfortable, as well as , . seems too brusque and unfriendly for my tastes. In total, I am not confident that this user would use admin tools wisely, I am sad to say. —BorgHunter (talk) 15:53, 25 January 2006 (UTC)
- I am generally a nice person when treated nicely. If I had admin privilages I would have blocked myself hence wouldn't have to seek such attention. The only examples of me vandalising is those two diffs. I would not edit article namespace unless reverting vandalism if I were adminised. --
CoolCat 15:57, 25 January 2006 (UTC)- Please read block policy; blocking oneself to enforce a wikibreak is not allowed. That's what made me nervous, plus you disrupted an article in the article namespace to do so. —BorgHunter (talk) 16:04, 25 January 2006 (UTC)
- Something like that will not ever occure since I wont ever be on #wikipedia. And yes I have disrupted article namespace with two edits getting myself blocked so I don't disrupt wikipedia anymore. If people blocked me with request that wouldnt happen. --
CoolCat 16:07, 25 January 2006 (UTC) - As far as any wikipedia rule is concerned. I am more than willing to bend them if the end is a better encyclopedia. I do not intend to obey the book word by word. I would bend the rules when necesary. I am more than qualified to make that determination. Also autoblock is not an issue since I am not on a static IP. --
CoolCat 16:08, 25 January 2006 (UTC)
- Something like that will not ever occure since I wont ever be on #wikipedia. And yes I have disrupted article namespace with two edits getting myself blocked so I don't disrupt wikipedia anymore. If people blocked me with request that wouldnt happen. --
- Oh, also. As an admin, you won't always be treated nicely. You still need to keep cool in the face of that and remain civil and polite at all times. It's great that you're a nice person when treated nicely, and from what I've seen, that's a true statement. You need to be a nice person when treated badly is the problem. —BorgHunter (talk) 16:09, 25 January 2006 (UTC)
- I am a cool guy when not banned from #wikipedia for requesting a ban on MARMOT. If anyone is going to complain about me blocking MARMOT sockpuppets clearly defending MARMOT (sockpuppets havent done anything wrong yet) on wikipedia I will likely loose my cool. However I would not loose my cool when simply mistreated. --
CoolCat 16:12, 25 January 2006 (UTC)- Cool Cat why not get forced edit summaries in your monobook steal it from my one. This should be a good enough solution --Adam1213 Talk + 00:17, 26 January 2006 (UTC)
- I am a cool guy when not banned from #wikipedia for requesting a ban on MARMOT. If anyone is going to complain about me blocking MARMOT sockpuppets clearly defending MARMOT (sockpuppets havent done anything wrong yet) on wikipedia I will likely loose my cool. However I would not loose my cool when simply mistreated. --
- Please read block policy; blocking oneself to enforce a wikibreak is not allowed. That's what made me nervous, plus you disrupted an article in the article namespace to do so. —BorgHunter (talk) 16:04, 25 January 2006 (UTC)
- I am generally a nice person when treated nicely. If I had admin privilages I would have blocked myself hence wouldn't have to seek such attention. The only examples of me vandalising is those two diffs. I would not edit article namespace unless reverting vandalism if I were adminised. --
- He says in answer below he has "no idea what NPOV is" and I have observed he has a hard time understanding other policies, too, though I think he means well. I hope he stays as an editor, but I must oppose this nomination. Jonathunder 17:10, 25 January 2006 (UTC)
- I am not suggesting I am clueless of what NPOV is. I am only explaining I not understand it enough to enforce it. --
CoolCat 17:16, 25 January 2006 (UTC)- Please look at cool cat's edits and notice you cant find much pov. --Adam1213 Talk + 00:17, 26 January 2006 (UTC)
- I am not suggesting I am clueless of what NPOV is. I am only explaining I not understand it enough to enforce it. --
- Oppose. About the only thing I know about this user is the crazy RfA yesterday. That didn't seem like the sort of thing an admin-headed person should do. Blackmailing us with the length of your stay here for your adminship? Nuh uh. -lethe 17:25, 25 January 2006 (UTC)
- I dont blackmail, thats what MARMOT does to me with IRC comments such as "shall I get you blocked" (and he does get me blocked). I simply have nothing to do on wikipedia if I cant RC patrol properly. My article writing experience recieved little sympathy and lots of apathy. And I am not as much as a writer anyways, look how I spell. Crazy RFA was a result of a number of things. I posted how I felt about it to User talk:Sannse if you care to look. --
CoolCat 17:33, 25 January 2006 (UTC)- You forgot that I nominated cool cat, it was not a self nomination. There never was any blackmailing done by cool cat. --Adam1213 Talk + 00:17, 26 January 2006 (UTC)
- I dont blackmail, thats what MARMOT does to me with IRC comments such as "shall I get you blocked" (and he does get me blocked). I simply have nothing to do on wikipedia if I cant RC patrol properly. My article writing experience recieved little sympathy and lots of apathy. And I am not as much as a writer anyways, look how I spell. Crazy RFA was a result of a number of things. I posted how I felt about it to User talk:Sannse if you care to look. --
- Oppose. Too soon after a self-nomination he apparently only made to get oppose votes. JIP | Talk 17:31, 25 January 2006 (UTC)
- Too soon or not. It is still an RfA I hope you'll treat it independently. That RFA is what I am not. --
CoolCat 17:33, 25 January 2006 (UTC)- You forgot that I nominated cool cat, it was not a self nomination. --Adam1213 Talk + 00:17, 26 January 2006 (UTC)
- Too soon or not. It is still an RfA I hope you'll treat it independently. That RFA is what I am not. --
- Oppose. Administrator privileges are not an honorary title. User also seems to assume bad faith quite a bit, see question 7. User has shown little impetus to learn policy or follow instructions. -- goatasaur 17:45, 25 January 2006 (UTC)
- You are misinterpreting my words and I dont like it. It is a matter of honor. I am giving the comunity the option of voting based on who I am and what I have done. Actions taken against me by a number of users whom on one ocasion objected me recieving barn starts. Yes to that extent I was stalked. And because of my last RfAr which was my only RfAr people opposed my past rfas. What are you objecting? Show me one instance of bad faith asumption? Do you know how normal it is to assume bad faith when you are stalked as much as I was? Never the less I am kind to even the most hostile newbie.
- How many impersonators do you have?
- How many times were you blocked because of a wikipedia exploit?
- How many times were there attemts to frame you of sockpuppetary and vandalism?
- How many times was your userpage attacked by vandalbots?
- All above is a result of me RC patroling. If I am going to continue suffer that "torture" from vandals. I should at least be given the "honors" to block them. --
CoolCat 18:02, 25 January 2006 (UTC)
- Response. You ask me to give one instance of bad faith in action, which I've given, and then you immediately rationalize assuming bad faith because your account was stalked/vandalized in the past. You accuse me of mis-interpreting your words, and take offense, without stating what it is you think I've mis-interpreted. You rationalize ignorance of NPOV because you believe people yelled at you, although if you read the tutorial and maybe asked some questions you would better understand this extremely important policy. Your understanding of AfD is deeply flawed. In addition, you are using this RfA as an ultimatum, which strikes me as particularly unbecoming. Your obsessive responses to every oppose vote do not reflect well on your motivation. You are a fine editor but you are not yet cut out for administration. - goatasaur 19:27, 25 January 2006 (UTC)
- Excuse me you lost me. I have been pounded by people and it is very difficult for me to "assume good faith". This does not mean I dont assume good faith. You are misinerpreting my words again. I do not understand NPOV because I asked questions and tried hard to learn from it. When I opposed people commiting my ex behaviour I was threatened with blocks. hence I abandoned understanding NPOV until people begin to assume good faith regarding me. I cannot assume good faith when someone is vandalising wikipedia. RC patrol does not invole "assuming good faith" although people still have to be treated with the courtasy. At least two test warnings. --
CoolCat 20:24, 25 January 2006 (UTC)
- Excuse me you lost me. I have been pounded by people and it is very difficult for me to "assume good faith". This does not mean I dont assume good faith. You are misinerpreting my words again. I do not understand NPOV because I asked questions and tried hard to learn from it. When I opposed people commiting my ex behaviour I was threatened with blocks. hence I abandoned understanding NPOV until people begin to assume good faith regarding me. I cannot assume good faith when someone is vandalising wikipedia. RC patrol does not invole "assuming good faith" although people still have to be treated with the courtasy. At least two test warnings. --
- Response. You ask me to give one instance of bad faith in action, which I've given, and then you immediately rationalize assuming bad faith because your account was stalked/vandalized in the past. You accuse me of mis-interpreting your words, and take offense, without stating what it is you think I've mis-interpreted. You rationalize ignorance of NPOV because you believe people yelled at you, although if you read the tutorial and maybe asked some questions you would better understand this extremely important policy. Your understanding of AfD is deeply flawed. In addition, you are using this RfA as an ultimatum, which strikes me as particularly unbecoming. Your obsessive responses to every oppose vote do not reflect well on your motivation. You are a fine editor but you are not yet cut out for administration. - goatasaur 19:27, 25 January 2006 (UTC)
- You are misinterpreting my words and I dont like it. It is a matter of honor. I am giving the comunity the option of voting based on who I am and what I have done. Actions taken against me by a number of users whom on one ocasion objected me recieving barn starts. Yes to that extent I was stalked. And because of my last RfAr which was my only RfAr people opposed my past rfas. What are you objecting? Show me one instance of bad faith asumption? Do you know how normal it is to assume bad faith when you are stalked as much as I was? Never the less I am kind to even the most hostile newbie.
- Oppose — the mop is for cleaning, not hitting, and I'm not so sure this user can keep cool under pressure. --Gareth Hughes 17:55, 25 January 2006 (UTC)
- Define how is blocking cleaning? This user is responding to your comment under presure. I am more pissed off than ever due to reasons not directly related to this RfA. --
CoolCat 18:02, 25 January 2006 (UTC) - There is a reason why half of my nick is striked out. --
CoolCat 18:05, 25 January 2006 (UTC)- In your answers to questions you used the word hit, and your tone is generally pugnacious. This approach includes bantering with any voter who might oppose your nomination. Your response above is really an invitation to oppose. --Gareth Hughes 18:39, 25 January 2006 (UTC)
- I am not here look sweet. I, unlike some candidates am not extra carefull with my RfA. People looking "sweet" are not as sweet after the RfA passes hence my belief is that "special carefullness" on RfA's is bad practice. Also If people are going to treat every word I use here as an excuse to oppose they already have a predetermined vote. --
CoolCat 20:18, 25 January 2006 (UTC)
- I am not here look sweet. I, unlike some candidates am not extra carefull with my RfA. People looking "sweet" are not as sweet after the RfA passes hence my belief is that "special carefullness" on RfA's is bad practice. Also If people are going to treat every word I use here as an excuse to oppose they already have a predetermined vote. --
- In your answers to questions you used the word hit, and your tone is generally pugnacious. This approach includes bantering with any voter who might oppose your nomination. Your response above is really an invitation to oppose. --Gareth Hughes 18:39, 25 January 2006 (UTC)
- Define how is blocking cleaning? This user is responding to your comment under presure. I am more pissed off than ever due to reasons not directly related to this RfA. --
- Oppose Personally, I like this editor, and I certainly want him here. His answers to questions, especially question 6, are quite terse. If you think AfD is broken (which is a controversial thing to think for an admin) you should explain fully. I must conclude he isn't yet sufficiently circumspect for the job. Xoloz 18:03, 25 January 2006 (UTC)
- I'll do that. --
CoolCat 18:05, 25 January 2006 (UTC)
- I'll do that. --
- Oppose per marked civility/hotheadedness issues at Adam1213's RFA. "length of my wikipedia editorship will be determined by this RfA" is also troublesome. — Lomn Talk 18:09, 25 January 2006 (UTC)
- Length of my wikipedia editorship is determined by this rfa, I am tired of being pointed at and laughed at by MARMOT on my userpage. I was blocked because of my IP vandalising my own userpage. I do not like people using Misplaced Pages:Counter Vandalism Unit as an excuse to oppose RfAs. This is like saying "oppose user has barnstars!". If people are finding illogical reasons (reasons that have nothing to do with adminship) to oppose RfAs they need to be told they are being m:dicks any oppose vote without the intention of improving the candidate is someone being a m:dick. For example your vote here has somewhat valid reasons. Votes thretening to leave wikipedia (see my rfa1) are however extremely inaproporate for RfAs. I am threatening to leave wikipedia before anyone else does basicaly. Also Adams rfa is as hotheaded I got on wikipedia. --
CoolCat 18:21, 25 January 2006 (UTC)
- Length of my wikipedia editorship is determined by this rfa, I am tired of being pointed at and laughed at by MARMOT on my userpage. I was blocked because of my IP vandalising my own userpage. I do not like people using Misplaced Pages:Counter Vandalism Unit as an excuse to oppose RfAs. This is like saying "oppose user has barnstars!". If people are finding illogical reasons (reasons that have nothing to do with adminship) to oppose RfAs they need to be told they are being m:dicks any oppose vote without the intention of improving the candidate is someone being a m:dick. For example your vote here has somewhat valid reasons. Votes thretening to leave wikipedia (see my rfa1) are however extremely inaproporate for RfAs. I am threatening to leave wikipedia before anyone else does basicaly. Also Adams rfa is as hotheaded I got on wikipedia. --
- Oppose. In my experience, Cool Cat shows a tendency for impulsive rather than patient action, some paranoia regarding the opinions and motivations of others, and (as shown below) a very personally-invested desire for adminship tools--all red flags for me. This starts from my first exposure to issues involving him (anti-Kurd POV-pushing), through actions like his failed attempt to assign ranks to Wikipedians based on number of edits, and continues with his conduct surrounding his request for adminship. Additionally, I am entirely unsympathetic with the sentiment behind "op me or I go home," and would probably oppose purely based on this reason if there weren't others. There's no question that Cool Cat is a hard worker who has done a lot of work to make Misplaced Pages better, but in my best guess he would be likely to block people and delete or protect pages out of pique, to enforce a point of view or just to make things as he wants them over the objections of others (as he has for example by serially reverting his "assume good faith" logo into the WP:AGF page ). I'm very sorry to sound harsh, and I hope Cool Cat will reconsider his desire to leave the project or not request the rollback button, when it's available. Demi /C 18:26, 25 January 2006 (UTC)
- There is a troll and his sockpuppets trying to frame me for sockpuppetary on that page. See Hexagonal (talk · contribs). That aside, no one gave me an excuse why the image was inaproporate. People commented based on their taste. "I dont like it" is not a valid reason. Hence why I some-what revert wared. I am not proud of what I did. I no longer inted to edit any wikipedia policy page anytime soon. --
CoolCat 18:31, 25 January 2006 (UTC) - Also sounds like you are the paranoid one. When was the last time I even blacked a page based on my POV. --
CoolCat 19:46, 25 January 2006 (UTC) - Nothing compels me to contribute to a comunity that can't trust me. If my year-long-work is not enough to win adequate trust it is a "op me or I go home" situation. I am demanding adminship so I can RC patrol better. Your "harsh" comments have no basis. And yes regarding kurd related articles no one is enforcing NPOV. I am a bad candidate to do it myslef thats why I have been trying to get attention to those articles but people are simply ignoring me. See how many edits I have on kurd articles, then comment on my anti-Kurd POV-pushing. --
CoolCat 20:13, 25 January 2006 (UTC)
- There is a troll and his sockpuppets trying to frame me for sockpuppetary on that page. See Hexagonal (talk · contribs). That aside, no one gave me an excuse why the image was inaproporate. People commented based on their taste. "I dont like it" is not a valid reason. Hence why I some-what revert wared. I am not proud of what I did. I no longer inted to edit any wikipedia policy page anytime soon. --
- Net loss to the project. —Cryptic (talk) 20:43, 25 January 2006 (UTC)
- Oppose "Bending rules" won't make a better encyclopedia for everyone...this is also known as vigilantism Bugturd 21:01, 25 January 2006 (UTC)
- User has only 5 edits --Jaranda 21:07, 25 January 2006 (UTC)
- Oppose. A thinly veiled threat to quit if not promoted is not a sign of maturity. Based on the comments in this RfA, I would not want to see him granted access to the block button. Carbonite | Talk 21:09, 25 January 2006 (UTC)
- Oppose - I'm sorry, but all this RfA nonsense is borderline WP:POINT. Too temperamental right now. No prejudice towards a future renomination in a few months. Rob Church (talk) 21:29, 25 January 2006 (UTC)
- Oppose. Seriously, this is getting ridiculous. Coolcat is way too immature to be an admin. Wasn't the true 3rd nomination deleted yesterday? AngryParsley 21:25, 25 January 2006 (UTC)
- Anyone who considers becoming an admin a matter of honor is unfit for the job. Also, the extremely brief answers to the questions aren't helping any, nor is not understanding our NPOV policy, nor is seeming to want a block button mainly to deal with vandalism of his own page. I'd be happy to protect his user page for him. Radiant_>|< 21:56, 25 January 2006 (UTC)
Oppose, too much controversy and too much of a record against this user. Six blocks? I might be lax if the user only had one, but six is way too many. --155.31.230.67 22:00, 25 January 2006 (UTC)- Sorry, anons don't get a vote. howcheng {chat} 23:06, 25 January 2006 (UTC)
I believe everyone is allowed to contribute to the discussion.The bureaucrats are well able to take into account that this was only that IP's second edit when considering the indicativeness of 'community consensus' represented by their comments. Turns out we do limit this to logged in users only... not my preference, but that's the way the policy reads. --CBD ☎ 23:17, 25 January 2006 (UTC)
- Sorry, anons don't get a vote. howcheng {chat} 23:06, 25 January 2006 (UTC)
- Oppose, nn, d. Lack of civility, general contrariness. But the main issue is too soon after the last one. Sorry. Proto t c 22:16, 25 January 2006 (UTC)
- Oppose Hotheaded, too many recent blocks for POV pushing and violation of 3RR, uncivil. — Ian Moody 23:44, 25 January 2006 (UTC)
- Oppose. Sorry, no. There was the strange RfA yesterday, where he nominated himself then voted oppose. SlimVirgin 00:33, 26 January 2006 (UTC)
- Oppose - I do not believe from various sources already posted by other users that this user is ready to take on this new role. -- Francs2000 01:42, 26 January 2006 (UTC)
- Oppose I want to trust the guy, but he seems angry, and talks too much about how admin powers will allow him better to defend himself right when I expect him to exaplain how these powers will enable him to improve WP. Very glad to see improving trend, and hope to vote in support sometime in the future. Pete.Hurd 05:51, 26 January 2006 (UTC)
- Oppose: thorough lack of civility.--cj | talk 07:06, 26 January 2006 (UTC)
- Oppose Has done good work, but intentionally vandalizing a prominent article twice as recently as a few days ago is a dealbreaker. Perhaps you did this intentionally to sabotage your chances because you're experiencing burnout and wish to quit Misplaced Pages but want to be able to blame others. -- Curps 07:21, 26 January 2006 (UTC)
- Oppose. Some good contributions, but I have a feeling that there will be way too much ignoring of rules if Cool Cat is given adminship. Sjakkalle (Check!) 07:30, 26 January 2006 (UTC)
- Vehemently Oppose. I can't believe you're trying to make a serious effort at RfA right after completely taking a dump on the process yesterday. Mo0 07:51, 26 January 2006 (UTC)
- Oppose -- see his user page: "This user is no longer a dedicated wikipedian and hence does not care much about wikipedia and edits for his own entertainment rather than for "great encyclopedia" as no one appriciates that." User seems to get into far too much trouble to be trusted with Admin Powers. Seems appropriate that he's struck-out the "
Cool" in his UserID. Also, shouldn't this be moved? Misplaced Pages:Requests for adminship/Cool Cat 3 --> Misplaced Pages:Demands for adminship/Cool Cat 3. --Moby Dick 08:02, 26 January 2006 (UTC)
Neutral
Neutral-Zero 15:25, 25 January 2006 (UTC) switched vote to support.- Neutral per JIP and few of the oppose votes, excellent vandal fighter but that RFA insedent happened yesterday, might support if this RFA is close later on. --Jaranda 18:09, 25 January 2006 (UTC)
- Yesterdays RFA was the opposite of me. Some people needed a bad example while voting on RfAs. This will gain me some oppose votes but I hope will fix that aspect of RFA. It was perhaps a minor breach of WP:POINT... --
CoolCat 18:27, 25 January 2006 (UTC)
- Yesterdays RFA was the opposite of me. Some people needed a bad example while voting on RfAs. This will gain me some oppose votes but I hope will fix that aspect of RFA. It was perhaps a minor breach of WP:POINT... --
- Neutral per Jaranda. --NaconKantari e|t||c|m 19:59, 25 January 2006 (UTC)
- Neutral Cool Cat is a great contributor and enforcer to Misplaced Pages. But his rash approches may offend some and scare others. He is still needed on Misplaced Pages, we all still need him. But he must learn a golden rule of liberty, great power = great responablity. -Dynamo_ace Talk
- Neutral, adminship is no big deal, but you've made it into one. :( —Locke Cole • t • c 21:47, 25 January 2006 (UTC)
- Neutral per Locke Cole above, user seems too obsessed with becoming an admin. Some concerns, lack of edit summaries, and time taken to answer questions below being some of them. └/talk 22:54, 25 January 2006 (UTC)
- Neutral, leaning to oppose. Is this a breach of WP:POINT? Why run for adminship if in your own user page you explicitly say you "wish not to even attempt being one"? This behavior seems erratic to those not familiar with the background of this nomination. -- Rune Welsh | ταλκ 00:45, 26 January 2006 (UTC)
- Neutral, apparent recent violation of WP:POINT. Is a good vandal fighter, not very likely to abuse tools. Not becomming an admin != being a bad editor. xaosflux /CVU 01:45, 26 January 2006 (UTC)
- Neutral - I think the project itself would benefit from having Cool Cat as an admin, and I admire Cool Cat for contributions, particularly to vandal fighting. However, as recent history shows some tendancies that might lead to heavyhandedness, edit wars, and the like. I think that right now we'd be better off returning to this nomination in about 6 more months, after CC has leveled off the temper a bit. I think the mop and bucket are probably overdue, just that current circumstances don't completely support giving them at the present time. - Stephanie Daugherty (Triona) - Talk - Comment - 05:01, 26 January 2006 (UTC)
- Neutral, per Stephanie Daugherty (Triona) exactly. I'm having difficulty reconciling Cool Cat's long history of useful contributions with recent actions, but would be happy to vote support in the future. --PeruvianLlama 05:55, 26 January 2006 (UTC)
Comments
- I removed an earlier self-nomination by this candidate because it did not appear to be a genuine self-nomination. This one clarifies that the candidate is serious about wanting administrator powers and so I will not remove it. --Tony Sidaway|Talk 16:50, 25 January 2006 (UTC)
- You state "The length of my wikipedia editorship will be determined by this RfA". Are you implying that your fate as contributor to Misplaced Pages will be determined by this RfA? --Durin 15:50, 25 January 2006 (UTC)
- I guess you can say that. If after a year people cannot trust me to hand me admin privilages would imply I obviously am doing something very wrong... --
CoolCat 16:00, 25 January 2006 (UTC)- How about remaining as an editor? Some people contribute many edits and have been around for a long time but aren't admins (either because they weren't nominated or have refused nomination). (I decided to ask an additional question, please see below) --Deathphoenix 16:04, 25 January 2006 (UTC)
- I think we need WP:ANOT (what adminship is not). It is not an honor. It is not a reward for a job well done. It is not a blessing of your contributions. It is not a sheriff's badge. It is not a reason to think you are different than any other editor. There are plenty of editors who would not make good admins. Simply because a person might not make a good admin is NOT a comment on your value as an editor, which could be thoroughly exemplary. I think you need to rethink why you want to be an admin. If the main reason you are doing it is to ascertain community consensus on whether you're a good guy or not, I would strongly encourage you to withdraw this nomination. --Durin 16:13, 25 January 2006 (UTC)
- If people are going to vote oppose because I got stalked for ages. Thats a matter of honor. If people are going to vote because I POV pushed on my earlier days on wikipedia, thats a matter of honor. It is very unlikely for me to celebrate by second year on wikipedia if I don't recieve adminship since I no longer want to write articles hence there is nothing else left for me to do here. RC patroling without admin privilages is plain silly. It's like digging a trench with a spatula. --
CoolCat 16:19, 25 January 2006 (UTC) - User:Ed Poor was an ex burocrat. Obviously exiting burocrats power can degrade into user power. Its a simple try me then judge me deal. Try me for a month then strip me from adminship if I "abuse power". If "power abuse" happens strip me from my admin privilages that instant. If it doesnt happen... what are your afraid of? --
CoolCat 16:25, 25 January 2006 (UTC)
- If people are going to vote oppose because I got stalked for ages. Thats a matter of honor. If people are going to vote because I POV pushed on my earlier days on wikipedia, thats a matter of honor. It is very unlikely for me to celebrate by second year on wikipedia if I don't recieve adminship since I no longer want to write articles hence there is nothing else left for me to do here. RC patroling without admin privilages is plain silly. It's like digging a trench with a spatula. --
- I guess you can say that. If after a year people cannot trust me to hand me admin privilages would imply I obviously am doing something very wrong... --
Questions for the candidate
Dear candidate, thank you for offering to serve Misplaced Pages in this capacity. Please take the time to answer a few generic questions to provide guidance for voters:
- 1. What sysop chores, if any, would you anticipate helping with? Please check out Category:Misplaced Pages backlog, and read the page about administrators and the administrators' reading list.
- A.
- Counter-Vandalsim aka RC patrol.
- A.
- 2. Of your articles or contributions to Misplaced Pages, are there any about which you are particularly pleased, and why?
- A.
- Please see: User:Cool Cat/History
- A.
- 3. Have you been in any conflicts over editing in the past or do you feel other users have caused you stress? How have you dealt with it and how will you deal with it in the future?
The following are some optional questions. There are no correct answers to these questions and I simply want to know your opinions rather than see a correct answer. Thanks! --Deathphoenix 15:33, 25 January 2006 (UTC)
- 4. When would you use {{test3}}/{{test4}}, and when would you use {{bv}}?
- A.
- I prefer test1 test4 or bv (depends on persistance) and test5.
- I may also give 5-15 minute warning blocks to take the attention of thr individual.
- A.
- 5. What would you do if a user reverts an article four times in slightly more than 24 hours? (Thus obeying the letter of WP:3RR.)
- A. I would warn them once regardless.
- If I feel they are tricking the system they will get a block fo 3 - 12 hours perhaps.
- If they dont show any sign of improvement they will recieve a 24 hour block.
- A. I would warn them once regardless.
- 6. In your opinion, when should you speedy delete an article under CSD A7 (unremarkable people or groups) and when should you nominate it for an AFD instead?
- A. AFD is in my view broken.
- If an articles topic has google hits it has room for improvement hence no reason to be deleted.
- That is assuming the article is "approporate" (aka its not a dictionary entry etc.)
- As per request Ill reexplain what I ment here:
- Above all admin chores AfD requires most experience. Also votes on spesificaly contraversial topics are generaly flawed. I was accused of being anti-sematic for requesting the delete of Category:Anti-sematic people. The person in question blanked my AfD reasoning and in the end the category for deletion ended with a no concensius. In my POV categories like Category:Anti-sematic people are bad framing a person based on ones POV is a breach of NPOV as far as I comprihend from NPOV. First I will have to master NPOV to veture in this field and I am not ready for that. I do not want to delete a single article based on my POV. So I do not want to rush deleting articles.
- I would however cleanup my own mess. (renaming images etc)
- I am basicaly not sure how to handle this chore and I will only learn hot to master it by growing as a user with admin rpivilages. No newbie should go on a delete spree.
- I would delete articles with no meaningful content without hesitation however. THose are freebies.
- A. AFD is in my view broken.
- 7. How would you apply NPOV to a controversial article that you are editing?
- A. I would stay away from any pov dispute as I am confused what this policy is about.
- When I made POV edits on my early days on wikipedia, I was screamed at, I interprete that as "POV edits" are bad.
- However when I revert pov edits I am screemed at anyways.
- When I request citation for statistics I was still "pov pushing" and my behavior was not appriciated...
- So I have no idea what NPOV is.
- A. I would stay away from any pov dispute as I am confused what this policy is about.
- 8. What are your greatest frustrations with Misplaced Pages?
- A. My wikipedia experience has been rather disturbing.
- User:Davenbelle was by far the greatest frustration I had on wikipedia dedicating his entier edit experience to make my life miserable.
- User:MARMOT getting me blocked for vandalism by spoofing my IP... See: User:Brion VIBBER/Cool Cat incident report.
- Also another frustration is RC patroling with out a mop to hit the persistant vandals with.
- Misplaced Pages:Counter Vandalism Unit only got people to annoy me by making ridiculous statements about the CVU (such as it being a military organisation). However it did increase efficency in dealing with vandalism. When was the last time you saw a page was vandalised?
- A. My wikipedia experience has been rather disturbing.
- 9. How do you view adminship? Is it a reward for all your hard work as an editor? --Deathphoenix 16:04, 25 January 2006 (UTC)
- A.
- No. I see it as a tool to RC patrol properly. No one objects me RC patroling. People dont like me doing anything else.
- My editor experience was not aprriciated aside from me editing articles displayed here and its subcategories: Category:Oh My Goddess!
- A.
- 10. Since you note RC patrol as the only administrator activity you are interested in, should your request for adminship not be ratified, would you consider requesting rollback separately? Demi /C 17:10, 25 January 2006 (UTC)
- A.
- I already coded myself a rollback button via my bot. I need block power to end vandal apathy.
- I need to be able to block marmot sockpuppets vandalising my userpage for example. So far my userpage has suffered about 500 edits which were intended to vandalise. Which includes over 5 vandal bot attacks.
- A good way for non-admin RC patrollers to get a vandal blocked is reporting the vandal to WP:AIV once they've defied the test3, test4, or bv messages. A lot of admins have this on their watchlist and respond very quickly to vandal reports. --Deathphoenix 17:23, 25 January 2006 (UTC)
- Yes I know that, I am responsible of the blocking of hundereds of vandals (via #wikipedia-en-vandalism). I am tired of "requesting" as it lengthens the process.
- A good way for non-admin RC patrollers to get a vandal blocked is reporting the vandal to WP:AIV once they've defied the test3, test4, or bv messages. A lot of admins have this on their watchlist and respond very quickly to vandal reports. --Deathphoenix 17:23, 25 January 2006 (UTC)
- I was also impostered at least 51 times (attack accounts) and also suffered imeprsonation due to User:MARMOT exploiting a wikipedia vunrability. He could basicaly trick wikimedia servers to appear like the IP of any user he felt like. It is luckly fixed. I want to be able to "combat" the vandals with mop power. It is necesary to block inaproporate usernames. See User:Cool Cat/Impersonators
- A.