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His reasoning is that he was "shifting it to an appropriate section." The problem with that is that the claim in the lead that misandry is the parallel to misogyny has remained unsourced for over a year. Michael Flood contradicts this claim. So either the Flood quote goes back in the lead or the unsourced claim that misandry is the parallel to misogyny must be removed. For now, I'm moving the Flood quote back to the lead. ] (]) 17:13, 23 August 2010 (UTC) His reasoning is that he was "shifting it to an appropriate section." The problem with that is that the claim in the lead that misandry is the parallel to misogyny has remained unsourced for over a year. Michael Flood contradicts this claim. So either the Flood quote goes back in the lead or the unsourced claim that misandry is the parallel to misogyny must be removed. For now, I'm moving the Flood quote back to the lead. ] (]) 17:13, 23 August 2010 (UTC)

:I'm very sick of you making huge changes of material based on nothing but your own personal bigotries.
:That information belongs in the appropriate section. Not in the lead. If you want a non-sourced claim removed, then I'll do it myself (since you often play slight-of-hand by disguising one edit with another, I'll have to watch you on that). ] (]) 18:21, 23 August 2010 (UTC)

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Miso-

How is it that both the first sentence and the second sentence of the article explain that "miso" is Greek for "hate" (I'm paraphrasing). This should be mentioned at most once in the intro, then maybe later in an etymology section. Setitup (talk) 23:32, 11 March 2010 (UTC)

Misandrosy

I've seen this as an alternative rendering of this word. Is it worth adding a reference? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 70.143.73.60 (talk) 19:13, 28 February 2010 (UTC)

Equal rights

Hi, I made the first two paragraphs of this page more comparable to the female version (misogyny), since Misplaced Pages articles are not supposed to be in favor of one sex over the other. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 67.53.37.222 (talk) 01:53, 6 October 2009 (UTC)

Bias

The language and sources used in this article feel somewhat anti-feminist. It's a string of examples of people "identifying" misandry in feminism, and I think it reflects rather poorly as a result. People often take wikipedia at face value, so thhis kind of language is dangerous. The last thing we need to do is reinforce public bias against feminism. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 174.112.206.124 (talk) 17:23, 7 December 2009 (UTC)

This article has a history of POV problems and antifeminist soapboxing. If you have well-sourced information about other sorts of misandry, it might be good to add. / edg 19:39, 7 December 2009 (UTC)
There is no public bias against feminism. On the other hand, there is a real public bias against men Wwmargera (talk) 09:48, 22 December 2009 (UTC)
Talk pages are for discussing improvements of the article's content, not for sharing our opinions and discussing the topic generally. Feel free to contribute sourced and cited information to improve this article, or discuss specific issues you have with the existing content. Thanks. -Andrew c  14:32, 22 December 2009 (UTC)
I may not have made this clear, but I was replying to the post by 174.112.206.124. That user specifically implied that there was a public bias against feminism. If I was sharing my opinions and discussing the topic generally, then so was that user. Wwmargera (talk) 13:06, 23 December 2009 (UTC)
Co-indidence. What is left of this crippled article is a result of a whole range of 'soapboxing'. The only way to 'improve' the article is to find the right variety of 'well-sourced' information that says the right things. And people that take wikipedia at face value deserve whatever they get... Jgda (talk) 10:56, 12 January 2010 (UTC)
Your continued grievance regarding Misplaced Pages was probably not in doubt. / edg 12:35, 12 January 2010 (UTC)
'Talk pages are for discussing improvements of the article's content, not for sharing our opinions and discussing the topic generally. Feel free to contribute sourced and cited information to improve this article, or discuss specific issues you have with the existing content. Thanks.'Jgda (talk) 12:16, 1 April 2010 (UTC)
Wwmargera: while 174.112.206.124 (talk) expressed an agenda, they were clearly commenting about the article. Debates on whether "public bias" exists against either men or feminists belong elsewhere. / edg 12:35, 12 January 2010 (UTC)

General content

As I was scanning over this article, I noted, curiously, the article is written in a way that, perhaps inadvertently?, discredits the subject. In fact, the article reads like a series of quotes, whose authors are meticulously identified for their political or ideological leanings. Is this the intention? Perhaps the sensitive and controversial nature of the subject, and the paucity of literature on the same, militate against coherence. RedRabbit (talk) 15:56, 24 January 2010 (UTC)

No. Yes. And yes, though there is a range of other structural and ideological elements militating the crap out of it. Jgda (talk) 12:22, 1 April 2010 (UTC)

WP:OR is a major issue here

I removed this paragraph because it is original research. The claim that Judith Levine's writing is misandric has to be supported by a reliable and verifiable source. In the case of Valerie Solanas, the source is Alice Echol's article "Daring to Be Bad: Radical Feminism in America." Echols specifically notes Solanas' "unabashed misandry." You need a reliable source which says that Judith Levine's work was misandric. Randygeorge (talk) 19:31, 7 August 2010 (UTC)

Move of Michael Flood's argument that misogyny and misandry are very different.

User Sugar-Baby-Love made this edit .

His reasoning is that he was "shifting it to an appropriate section." The problem with that is that the claim in the lead that misandry is the parallel to misogyny has remained unsourced for over a year. Michael Flood contradicts this claim. So either the Flood quote goes back in the lead or the unsourced claim that misandry is the parallel to misogyny must be removed. For now, I'm moving the Flood quote back to the lead. Randygeorge (talk) 17:13, 23 August 2010 (UTC)

I'm very sick of you making huge changes of material based on nothing but your own personal bigotries.
That information belongs in the appropriate section. Not in the lead. If you want a non-sourced claim removed, then I'll do it myself (since you often play slight-of-hand by disguising one edit with another, I'll have to watch you on that). Sugar-Baby-Love (talk) 18:21, 23 August 2010 (UTC)
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