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http://www.deremilitari.org/resources/pdfs/pedani.pdf

Barbarigo

Deucalionite, if as the source for your "Αρβανίτες Ελληνες" you mean the Ta Nea article you quoted to Matia the other day, read it carefully: it doesn't even ascribe that phrase to Barbarigo. If you know it is from Barbarigo nevertheless, quote me chapter and verse in the Sathas edition, plus the original wording in Italian or whatever language it was written in. Fut.Perf. ☼ 16:04, 13 June 2006 (UTC)

I'm changing this back, as no confirmation of this quote has been forthcoming. Fut.Perf. ☼ 10:30, 16 June 2006 (UTC)

Aigest 06:53, 19 September 2007 (UTC)

I don't think the term Greek mercenaries is correct. In the same article it is described that they were recruited from Albanians, Greeks and Dalmatians which are all different nationalities. Let's use the term mercenaries instead without the nationality reference. Even the reference there "they are all greeks" I think probably it's used to describe their orthodox religion. There were no greeks at that time in Durazzo, not even in Napoli. Instead there were Albanian emigrants in Napoli (now called Arbëresh) and Albanians in Durazzo and they were all orthodox.

More than 80% of Stradiots were of Albanian origin the rest of them of Greek and slavic origin, most of them were of greek orthodox religion not of greek ethnicity.

Cyprus?

Is it certain Stradioti were "recruited" in Cyprus? I've seen references saying Arvanite stradioti units moved to Cyprus and settled there at some later stage, but was it also a recruiting area? Fut.Perf. ☼ 10:29, 16 June 2006 (UTC)

Albanian Stradioti

According to the history of my ancestors many of them (Stradioti) were of Albanian extraction too. Does anyone have more information about this? One article I've read and is mentioned here in the Misplaced Pages article in the past is at: http://www.shsu.edu/~his_ncp/Stradioti.html —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Contessa arberesh (talk • contribs) 18:31, 12 May 2007 (UTC). Aigest 06:49, 19 September 2007 (UTC) I am preparig something about it and yes you are right.

Roberto Damiani's website and the list of the condottieri are quite reliable and in fact has helped scholars in their research See comment of Pietro Bembo in his History of Venice: Books I-IV, Volume 1 . I think it may safely be used in this article as a RS. --Sulmues 15:57, 26 August 2010 (UTC)

-According to the sentence"Others seemed to be of South Slavic origin, such Soimiris, Vlastimiris, and Voicha." in the footnote, see a not good used analogu like soimir and vladimir,bouth ending with mir. In th case Soimir it is very transparent in albanian language from "the gentelmen kind" which is "gentelmen family"--Flokarti (talk) 14:59, 27 August 2010 (UTC)

I've removed this part since this is complete of zero value. None of them meets wp:n. Guess another pointy edit by an old blocked troll Guildenrich.Alexikoua (talk) 16:59, 27 August 2010 (UTC)

We'll see if they are notable once that I start articles about them. It's very disruptive of you to ignore reliable sources.--Sulmues 18:24, 27 August 2010 (UTC)

Sure go on. Actually this was nothing more than a povish list, added by a blocked user, that didn't meet wp:n, just to monopolize the Stratioti as Albanians only. What is disruptive here is that a user supports indef blocked editors with the excuse that they are just his coethnics.Alexikoua (talk) 19:20, 27 August 2010 (UTC)

Btw per MOS please don't disrupt the alphabetical arrangement in order to put one ethnicity before the other ones and don't add irrelevant terms on the lead.--— ZjarriRrethues —  14:43, 31 August 2010 (UTC)

Alexi, leave aside these comments, and make a comment on on Roberto Damiani as a source. --Sulmues 14:44, 31 August 2010 (UTC)

Seems you both are completely out of topic? Alphabetical order? lol. It was just a list added by a indef blocked user, and now it's gone because non of them met wp:n (ignore nationalist advocacy)Alexikoua (talk) 15:00, 31 August 2010 (UTC)

The only out of topic is you. I am asking for the third time if you consider Roberto Damiani a reliable source. Say simply yes or no. --Sulmues 15:06, 31 August 2010 (UTC)

To what is this dispute related?--— ZjarriRrethues —  15:08, 31 August 2010 (UTC)

To this edit. Reverted and again Alexi's edit--Sulmues 15:11, 31 August 2010 (UTC)

To sum up, Zjarri (above) said this: don't add irrelevant terms on the lead., alphabetical arrangement? I'm sorry but he must mistaken me from somewhere else. He should read again wp:what wikipedia is not. Blindly accusing is really the worst extreme way of disruption in wikipedia.Alexikoua (talk) 15:14, 31 August 2010 (UTC)

That was the state of the article and I'm not blindly accusing anyone. I don't think that common mistakes are a reason for accusing someone because people make mistakes and learn from them. Btw Sulmues seems to have asked you about something 3 times so it would be prudent if you answered and didn't IDHT him.--— ZjarriRrethues —  15:31, 31 August 2010 (UTC)

Only an Albanian nationalist would place the sentence that 80% of Stratioti were Albanian in the second sentence of the lead. I mean, really. Athenean (talk) 22:08, 31 August 2010 (UTC)

That's what the article says. By the way you completely messed up the references with your disruptive editing. --Sulmues 22:10, 31 August 2010 (UTC)

So what? Why should that be the second sentence of the article? Like I said, only an Albanian nationalist would....Athenean (talk) 22:23, 31 August 2010 (UTC)

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