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Aww, don't retire, I was just getting to know you. You're one of the best Wikipedians here. Don't take these little things to heart. You have to come back. Hope to hear from you soon. '''<span style="font-family:garamond;white-space:nowrap;">] ]</span>''' 18:22, 31 October 2010 (UTC) | Aww, don't retire, I was just getting to know you. You're one of the best Wikipedians here. Don't take these little things to heart. You have to come back. Hope to hear from you soon. '''<span style="font-family:garamond;white-space:nowrap;">] ]</span>''' 18:22, 31 October 2010 (UTC) | ||
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Retired This user is no longer active on Misplaced Pages.Who wanted this?
I am rather stunned that the edit adding the retired template indicated that your retirement was "wanted" by "you guys". I can speak only for myself, of course, but that is one of the last things I myself would ever think of "wanting". You have been a very capable and effective editor, adminsitrator, and arbitrator, and I am stunned that you had somehow gotten the impression that your retirement was "wanted". While every experienced editor here will have some detractors, I cannot believe that there was any particular groundswell of opinion that you should retire as an editor. Please reconsider. John Carter (talk) 15:38, 31 October 2010 (UTC)
- Whether content added by a long term, highly respected, capable, and above all, editor with great integrity, is non compliant should be a reasoned, intelligent discussion so that content can be fixed if needed, not an attack on the editor. That such an editor might feel frustration enough to retire when that isn't the case is understandable. I also think he has many many supporters, many more than he knows probably so, I hope for sake of those editors and the good of encyclopedia he will reconsider too. He's a great loss.(olive (talk) 16:02, 31 October 2010 (UTC))
- I have some things I could add to this discussion, but overall I still have too much respect for Rlevse to do that here. Can we please take it elsewhere. Hans Adler 16:11, 31 October 2010 (UTC)
- For me its not a discussion of the editor. I support and trust the editor based on what I know of his history and that hasn't changed. Dealing with questioned content is an academic discussion when you're dealing with a trusted editor that should have been settled without the drama. History means something. I can't see that I have anything more to say, Rlevse's history speaks for itself, but for others whatever you need. And thanks for your sensibility. (olive (talk) 16:22, 31 October 2010 (UTC))
- I really think that, based on the above comments from both of you, that further discussion of the questionable content would be better placed elsewhere. John Carter (talk) 16:46, 31 October 2010 (UTC)
- I refer to content under question by other editors, rather than content that I am questioning. If that clarifies. Please don't read anything more into what I'm saying. And I'm not discussing the content here, I'm outlining what started this all in the first place. Please fell free to duplicate my comments if useful.(olive (talk) 16:54, 31 October 2010 (UTC))
- When plagiarism accusations are possible, revert to Yoda-grammar seems to be the lesson -- I suspect that some of those most for blood calling are suscpetible as well on similar, albeit not identical, phrasing charges. Yoda would be proud. Collect (talk) 17:52, 31 October 2010 (UTC)
- Who is calling for blood, and where? Malleus Fatuorum 18:20, 31 October 2010 (UTC)
- When plagiarism accusations are possible, revert to Yoda-grammar seems to be the lesson -- I suspect that some of those most for blood calling are suscpetible as well on similar, albeit not identical, phrasing charges. Yoda would be proud. Collect (talk) 17:52, 31 October 2010 (UTC)
- I refer to content under question by other editors, rather than content that I am questioning. If that clarifies. Please don't read anything more into what I'm saying. And I'm not discussing the content here, I'm outlining what started this all in the first place. Please fell free to duplicate my comments if useful.(olive (talk) 16:54, 31 October 2010 (UTC))
- I really think that, based on the above comments from both of you, that further discussion of the questionable content would be better placed elsewhere. John Carter (talk) 16:46, 31 October 2010 (UTC)
- For me its not a discussion of the editor. I support and trust the editor based on what I know of his history and that hasn't changed. Dealing with questioned content is an academic discussion when you're dealing with a trusted editor that should have been settled without the drama. History means something. I can't see that I have anything more to say, Rlevse's history speaks for itself, but for others whatever you need. And thanks for your sensibility. (olive (talk) 16:22, 31 October 2010 (UTC))
- I have some things I could add to this discussion, but overall I still have too much respect for Rlevse to do that here. Can we please take it elsewhere. Hans Adler 16:11, 31 October 2010 (UTC)
- There seems to be a big plagiarism blood-feud going on right now and you just got swept up into it, Rlevse. Instead of other users taking this calmly and working to fix the problems, they are instead throwing around harmful words and calling for blocks left and right. It's a really sad thing. I hope you do come back sometime, Rlevse, maybe after waiting a month or two for this to calm down. The community really needs you. You are most definitely one of the shining stars on Misplaced Pages. Silverseren 18:15, 31 October 2010 (UTC)
- To characterise this as a "blood-feud" is a serious misjudgement, particularly as this specific example appears to be a clear copyright violation. I leave it to others to investigate who inserted the copyrighted material, when, and why, but it is by no means a personal feud. Rather it should be an encouragement to all of us that we try to do better. Malleus Fatuorum 18:20, 31 October 2010 (UTC)
- If you say so. I've seen quite a few users saying that blocks should be doled out for all of this (not just for Rlevse, but a number of users who have been found to accidentally plagiarize some things) and very, very few people are actually focusing on trying to fix these issues. Talk is cheap on Misplaced Pages. Let's see some people actually go about fixing the articles. Silverseren 18:25, 31 October 2010 (UTC)
- Other editors are trying to fix it, but you seem to be conspicuously absent among them. And let's face the facts; lesser editors are routinely blocked for copyright violations. I repeat, copyright violations, not plagiarism as you appear to be intent on calling this. Malleus Fatuorum 18:28, 31 October 2010 (UTC)
- Everyone else is calling it plagiarism, i'm just quoting them. And i'm not fixing things because I am going on a hiatus for a month in just a few hours and because I have homework to do today. Why are you in such an acerbic mood today? Silverseren 18:34, 31 October 2010 (UTC)
- Please try to refrain from making personal comments. You can have no idea what kind of a mood I'm in, so don't project your own mood onto me. Malleus Fatuorum 18:42, 31 October 2010 (UTC)
- Everyone else is calling it plagiarism, i'm just quoting them. And i'm not fixing things because I am going on a hiatus for a month in just a few hours and because I have homework to do today. Why are you in such an acerbic mood today? Silverseren 18:34, 31 October 2010 (UTC)
- Other editors are trying to fix it, but you seem to be conspicuously absent among them. And let's face the facts; lesser editors are routinely blocked for copyright violations. I repeat, copyright violations, not plagiarism as you appear to be intent on calling this. Malleus Fatuorum 18:28, 31 October 2010 (UTC)
- If you say so. I've seen quite a few users saying that blocks should be doled out for all of this (not just for Rlevse, but a number of users who have been found to accidentally plagiarize some things) and very, very few people are actually focusing on trying to fix these issues. Talk is cheap on Misplaced Pages. Let's see some people actually go about fixing the articles. Silverseren 18:25, 31 October 2010 (UTC)
- To characterise this as a "blood-feud" is a serious misjudgement, particularly as this specific example appears to be a clear copyright violation. I leave it to others to investigate who inserted the copyrighted material, when, and why, but it is by no means a personal feud. Rather it should be an encouragement to all of us that we try to do better. Malleus Fatuorum 18:20, 31 October 2010 (UTC)
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Don't Retire!
Aww, don't retire, I was just getting to know you. You're one of the best Wikipedians here. Don't take these little things to heart. You have to come back. Hope to hear from you soon. Set Sail For The Seven Seas 275° 36' 14" NET 18:22, 31 October 2010 (UTC)
Posted at the request of Rlevse
Rlevse contacted me via email to ask me to post this:
Rlevse has turned in his advanced user permissions (CU/OS, ArbCom, etcetera), and has scrambled his passwords.