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Worried well

Worried well seems to be a redlink. It looks like the old code was "2008 ICD-9-CM Diagnosis Code V65.5, Person with feared complaint in whom no diagnosis was made". Is there a new name for it? Is there anything much to be said about it, beyond that it exists? WhatamIdoing (talk) 20:51, 22 October 2010 (UTC)

Hypochondria, might be the alternative name perhaps.--Literaturegeek | T@1k? 21:56, 22 October 2010 (UTC)

Hmm. I wouldn't paint the worried well and hypochondriacs with the same brush. I don't know if there's a more PC term to describe the worried well, but these people are the one who turn up to clinics with fairly innocent enquiries about something that's bothering them - and once reassured tend not to return with the same complaint. Hypochondriasis is a pathological variant of this behaviour. Mattopaedia 05:21, 23 October 2010 (UTC)

What you say makes sense Matt. Perhaps worried well was removed from ICD because it was no longer judged to be a disorder by a subsequent panel of experts? If anyone has the interest and time, putting "worried well" into quotes and searching pubmed or google books should provide enough references to use to create a stub or maybe a C class article.--Literaturegeek | T@1k? 14:23, 23 October 2010 (UTC)

Is not a medical condition per say but a common social phenomena. Is of importance though as it has a huge effects on ERs that are in areas in which significant health conditions occur.Doc James (talk · contribs · email) 00:22, 24 October 2010 (UTC)

How do you code those visits these days? Maybe something in the Z range of the ICD-10? WhatamIdoing (talk) 02:34, 25 October 2010 (UTC)

There is this "Person with feared complaint in whom no diagnosis was made" V65.5 Doc James (talk · contribs · email) 03:53, 25 October 2010 (UTC)

It is a somewhat politically loaded term in psychiatry probably best not discussed in a public forum. Casliber (talk · contribs) 07:15, 25 October 2010 (UTC)

Page for an incompetent pharmacist?

I was looking to see if we have a biography of the first president of the (European Psychiatric Association), whose name is Leonard Singer, actually Léonard Singer. But we are informed that Leonard Ian Singer is an incompetent pharmacist ? Tijfo098 (talk) 11:12, 24 October 2010 (UTC)

Fixed now. The page had been vandalised. Physchim62 (talk) 11:54, 24 October 2010 (UTC)

Ross University School of Medicine

I've reverted edits from a couple new accounts lately at Ross University School of Medicine. Could someone else keep an eye on it too? An article in a Florida newspaper keeps getting removed. Thanks. -Shootbamboo (talk) 01:03, 25 October 2010 (UTC)

Chief Medical Officer in US hospital administration

Could someone have a look. We have a CMO for the UK and Ireland, but for the US it redirects to "Surgeon General" !!! I don't know enough about the exact tasks to create a page myself. All I know is that the CMO is some "big cheese" in a hospital's administration and not the Surgeon General. Compare: , , , 99.11.160.111 (talk) 05:38, 26 October 2010 (UTC)

It looks like the redirect at Chief Medical Officer, United States was created by a Brit, presumably in the spirit of 'translation'. Perhaps the article on the position in hospital administration should be at Chief medical officer (hospital). WhatamIdoing (talk) 18:12, 27 October 2010 (UTC)

Shouldn't the UK term be "medical director" for the hospital post. At the moment, the medical director article describes a different sort of post with that name in the U.S. Physchim62 (talk) 19:07, 27 October 2010 (UTC)

The article currently at medical director was mostly written by a person who focuses a lot of their contributions on models of care in different EMS systems. The content is good, but I don't think it belongs under the title of "medical director." This was briefly discussed a few years ago at Talk:Medical director#Disambiguation. In the US, a medical director is a licensed physician who provides medical oversight to a department consisting of allied-health providers (people who provide some sort of health care, but do not have independent licenses to practice medicine themselves). I believe the article at medical director should be re-focused to reflect this. There is a separate hospital position in the US called something like "chief medical officer" or "chief of medical staff," whose role is to be a part of the hospital administration and be a liaison from the staff physicians to the hospital administration. If this position is unique to the US, an article on this could be located at Chief medical officer (United States), otherwise, it could be at Chief medical officer (hospital). --Scott Alter (talk) 22:18, 27 October 2010 (UTC)

Similar titles in Australia, Canada, and India are state/provincial government positions, particularly "Chief Medical Officer of Health" for the head of a public health organization. LeadSongDog come howl! 02:15, 28 October 2010 (UTC)

Gonadal dysgenesis

This page is misleading and factually incorrect. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 203.16.41.7 (talk) 07:18, 27 October 2010 (UTC)

Please feel free to fix with reliable sources. Doc James (talk · contribs · email) 10:12, 27 October 2010 (UTC)

Migraine-associated vertigo

I happened across this complete trainwreck of an article, and pretty much gutted it, left review sources, and did all I could-- I'm at the limit of my medical knowledge if any one wants to review and take it from there. And watchlist it, considering its past history. SandyGeorgia (Talk) 16:40, 27 October 2010 (UTC)

Famous sufferers from ...

In several articles on diseases I've encountered sections or parts of See also that were lists of "famous sufferers from...", "people who died of..." or "notable cases". In article histories I've seen them completely deleted sometimes, and I don't disagree with such actions myself, but still, what it the general consensus about such entries? Mikael Häggström (talk) 17:30, 27 October 2010 (UTC)

Never mind, found it in Misplaced Pages:MEDMOS#Notable_cases. Mikael Häggström (talk) 17:32, 27 October 2010 (UTC)

Probably me you are referring too? If I come across these large section and they are unreferenced I delete them. If they are referenced I do not. Doc James (talk · contribs · email) 04:07, 28 October 2010 (UTC)

I have found useful instead of directly deleting to move it to talk page stating that a secondary article could be created if reliable sources are found. That way it is usually less controverted. In addition I believe that a ref saying that they suffer that or that other disease is not enough for inclusion, the source should also state why they are "notable sufferers" as stated in MEDMOS (which is not the same to notable people, who in addition have the disease). For example I feel really proud of the notable sufferers section in the Parkinson's disease section, which I recently finished and only includes 3 names and at some point was like this.--Garrondo (talk) 06:29, 28 October 2010 (UTC)

Yes good advice. I prefer not to use "suffers" though and prefer Notable cases. Some people with what we may consider horrible diseases suffer from them well others take it in strike and see it as a positive experience. There is a great book that discusses this point in depth called Stumbling on happiness.Doc James (talk · contribs · email) 06:42, 28 October 2010 (UTC)

Good point.--Garrondo (talk) 07:00, 28 October 2010 (UTC)

Access to paywall articles

Is there a place on Misplaced Pages I can go to ask for someone to email me a copy of a journal article that I can't access - or at least check a fact? I'm pretty sure I've read that somewhere. Anthony (talk) 04:04, 28 October 2010 (UTC)

What are you looking for? (PMID) Doc James (talk · contribs · email) 04:08, 28 October 2010 (UTC)

Anthony, many editors are willing to share access, but you may want to request that privtely from them, so they don't get into ... issues. Put up a list of what you need, and if someone e-mails it to you ... well ... SandyGeorgia (Talk) 04:10, 28 October 2010 (UTC)

Anthony's probably looking for Misplaced Pages:WikiProject Resource Exchange/Resource Request‎. LeadSongDog come howl! 04:16, 28 October 2010 (UTC)

What fact needs to be checked? Odds are good that someone here could do it for you. WhatamIdoing (talk) 05:19, 28 October 2010 (UTC)

Thanks everybody. I think it was Misplaced Pages:WikiProject Resource Exchange/Resource Request‎ I was trying to remember (thanks LSD). I'm going out and will check it later. The specific article is being discussed here. Any help or suggestions would be appreciated. --Anthony (talk) 08:46, 28 October 2010 (UTC)

Re: What fact needs to be checked? See: Talk:Major_depressive_disorder#Intact_monoamine_system. Tijfo098 (talk) 11:22, 28 October 2010 (UTC)

Research directions

A discussion at Talk:Chronic cerebrospinal venous insufficiency has raised the question of whether ClinicalTrials.gov is usable as a reference for sections on ongoing research that is not yet reporting results. The alternatives seem to be either relying on news media sources or else excluding such discussion entirely. Additional input would be helpful. LeadSongDog come howl! 18:04, 28 October 2010 (UTC)

From a different point of view: there are two questions: Is clinicaltrials reliable to cite trials?

Does it stablish notability of a trial or does it have to be inferred from other sources such as media reports?.--Garrondo (talk) 18:13, 28 October 2010 (UTC)

It's hard to judge reliability without knowing what you want to say in the article. IMO that website is a reliable source for whether a trial exists, and even information about study design and (for completed trials) what the preliminary results were (although you should cite a proper paper whenever possible).

It is certainly not evidence that a given trial is WP:Notable (deserves its own article) or even necessarily WP:DUE (should be mentioned in another article). For those purposes, the media sources might be better. If, on the other hand, the goal is to say something like "Only look! People are doing research! Isn't it exciting/hopeful/etc", then I'd invoke the "not a directory of clinical trials" standard and exclude it all together. WhatamIdoing (talk) 19:31, 28 October 2010 (UTC)

We had not discuss yet what to include, but I agree fully with your reasoning.--Garrondo (talk) 19:56, 28 October 2010 (UTC)

PERQ/HCI

Shouldn't these guys have a page? They seem to rate medical journals by readership, e.g. A few journals boast their readership, e.g. , which is somewhat orthogonal to the citation-based impact factor. Tijfo098 (talk) 18:44, 28 October 2010 (UTC)

It turns out they are a Nielsen subsidiary now . Tijfo098 (talk) 18:50, 28 October 2010 (UTC)

Biography question

I have been spending a lot of my time trying to help out new users. I welcomed a user recently and received this message. I don't think the article meets our notability requirements but am not sure of the exact standards of medical bios. Obviously given the circumstances please treat this person with kid gloves (as we should be doing with all non-vandal new users anyway), by that I mean no warning templates on the talk page. Personalized messages would be better. Thanks in advance to anyone who helps out. Quadzilla99 (talk) 18:24, 30 October 2010 (UTC)

At the moment it is very vague as to what his actual achievements were, and how he might have contributed to the field. You could ask the contributor this question directly. JFW | T@lk 20:09, 30 October 2010 (UTC)

Thanks. Some of the at WikiProject Chemistry are helping with the article. Quadzilla99 (talk) 00:01, 31 October 2010 (UTC)

Plans for Breast cancer awareness

I'm plotting a new article at Breast cancer awareness. I haven't figured out whether it should subsume all of National Breast Cancer Awareness Month and Pink ribbon, or just the less specific elements. I've just picked up a few good history/society books from the library, and reading those will doubtless keep me busy for a couple of weeks.

In the bigger picture, we should also have an article at Disease awareness (coordinated with Awareness ribbons), and perhaps at Cancer awareness. They should cover history, advantages (people recognize symptoms and seek care), and disadvantages (e.g., these concerns) -- but I don't know how easy it will be to find sources on the general subject, rather than the individual diseases.

If you've got ideas, sources, or know of any relevant existing articles, please speak up! WhatamIdoing (talk) 23:50, 1 November 2010 (UTC)

You'll need to take due measures to ensure such articles don't become wp:linkfarms, of course, but it sounds like a good plan, with the added benefit of forking much of this awareness- and fund-raising content out of the medical articles. You might find these useful for starters. Good luck! LeadSongDog come howl! 16:07, 2 November 2010 (UTC)

Parkinson's disease to GAN

I have just nominated Parkinson's disease for good article, as a way of improving it before taking it to FAC. While I believe that sources and scope are a strong point of the article, I know that my prose is far from being as professional as it should. Any kind of comments or copy-editing would be most useful. A commited reviewer would also be great, since the article is quite long. Thanks to everybody.--Garrondo (talk) 18:57, 3 November 2010 (UTC)

I was also thinking of an image for the symptoms section, and I thought of a writting by a PD patient with micrography. I do not have such kind of image, but maybe somebody from the project is capable of getting one directly from a patient. Best image would be a short text with some rule on it to show scale... --Garrondo (talk) 23:00, 3 November 2010 (UTC)

Other articles in search of a reviewer at WP:GAN#MED are:

• Edward William Archibald (Canadian surgeon, died 1945; short, and only 7 refs, so it should be quick)
• Protein C (blood clotting and inflammation)
• Haplogroup E1b1a (Y-DNA) (looks a bit technical and list-y)

So we need just four people who can read the actual criteria, and follow the simple directions. GA reviews aren't difficult, and if anyone is at all nervous about trying it out for the first time, then I'd be happy to help you learn the ropes.

BTW, there's always someone over at GA complaining about the backlog of unreviewed articles. I've always been proud of our group for staying on top of our section of the nominations list. WhatamIdoing (talk) 23:08, 3 November 2010 (UTC)

Chiropractic fringiness

Two new chiropractic articles have been transferred from a user's sandbox. Not only are they not NPOV and are promotional, they are pushing unscientific BS as if it were reality, all without proper references. They are well within the rules for using WP:MEDRS, but utterly fail to do so. The articles need more eyes on them and some working over:

• Bio-Geometric Integration

• Potential Energy Theory of Subluxation

-- Brangifer (talk) 22:33, 3 November 2010 (UTC)

Both have been deleted as copy vios. Brangifer (talk) 16:47, 4 November 2010 (UTC)

The Institutes for the Achievement of Human Potential

Could someone take a look at this. Recent POV edits removed criticism from the lead (quite serious criticism from the AAP) and added all sorts of stuff that fail multiple policies and guidelines. I reverted with a talk page notice but it has now been restored. This article has a history of being edited by IAHP staff, relatives of the founders, etc. Thanks. Colin° 23:15, 3 November 2010 (UTC)

We seem to have an edit war shaping up there. The new user seems interested in removing all well-sourced criticism from the lead, and downplaying it elsewhere, while spamming in basically every possible "endorsement" they've ever received. Three editors have opposed, and more eyes would be welcome. WhatamIdoing (talk) 18:45, 4 November 2010 (UTC)

Odd

• Raymond murphy (talk | contribs)
• Nkirukaokorie (talk | contribs)
• Susan. muzondo (talk | contribs)
• Lalora6 (talk | contribs)
• Aland90 (talk | contribs)
• Kellys76 (talk | contribs)

For a couple of weeks, this user has been making good-faith edits to mental health articles, using clumsy expression and poor citations. Over the last day or so I've been through all edits I could find and reverted most but corrected a few. They blanked a note from Looie496 and Guerillero about citations, so are aware of user talk pages, and are aware there's a problem. I have left simplified citation instructions on each of their talk pages.

The contributions all seem to be in good faith and often useful, so I'm (weakly) hopeful that with firm but gentle handling they may become beneficial to the project. Anthony (talk) 19:02, 4 November 2010 (UTC)