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Your comment "Have you read WP:CAPTION?" is not a question about how to improve the article and could be considered aggressive or sarcastic. Comment on content, not on the contributor. ] (]) 21:13, 17 December 2010 (UTC) Your comment "Have you read WP:CAPTION?" is not a question about how to improve the article and could be considered aggressive or sarcastic. Comment on content, not on the contributor. ] (]) 21:13, 17 December 2010 (UTC)
: Not sure if that is some crocodile tears or a knee-jerk reaction but it was an honest question since it doesn't seem like you are following it. I have asked you for clarification because of that so don't take it the wrong way. It was only sarcastic in your head and I won;t be apologizing for you misinterpreting my comments.] (]) 21:20, 17 December 2010 (UTC) : Not sure if that is some crocodile tears or a knee-jerk reaction but it was an honest question since it doesn't seem like you are following it. I have asked you for clarification because of that so don't take it the wrong way. It was only sarcastic in your head and I won;t be apologizing for you misinterpreting my comments.] (]) 21:20, 17 December 2010 (UTC)
:: I don't need you to apologise. But you do need to abide by Misplaced Pages's civility conventions. ] (]) 21:46, 17 December 2010 (UTC)

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Sexuality barnstar

The Human Sexuality Barnstar
For all your hard work on the various sexuality articles. Surv1v4l1st 14:13, 24 November 2010 (UTC)


Hello. Having noticed all your work on various sexuality articles, I thought just drop you a note of thanks. I'm pretty busy in real life and with other Wiki projects so don't work on many articles within the scope of WP:SEX these days, but it is good to see work is on-going. Cheers. --Surv1v4l1st 14:13, 24 November 2010 (UTC)
Thanks! One of the reasons I first got into editing was to create a page for my roommate's favorite internet girl. Didn't work out but I still enjoy the topic area. It is kind of cool to see subjects that are so taboo get sourcing and images.Cptnono (talk) 20:08, 24 November 2010 (UTC)

I'm concerned about you

I saw the AE thing and I have to say that three hours seems a bit lenient to me. I think you dodged a bullet there. But you admitted that what you did was wrong so I'm sure you know that. But I am worried about you because I remember when I first met you at Gaza War that you were one of the most neutral, civil and conciliatory editors there. It took me like a week to figure out which side of the fence you were on. That's a lot more than it usually takes. Actually I recall that I had trouble remembering which on was Cptnono and which was Cryptonio. I don't know what happened but I was away from WP over the summer and you seem to have got caught up in all the I/P bullshit and I think your editing is suffering for it. If I thought you were just another one of the I/P jerks it wouldn't really matter. But I remember when you were an exemplary editor here and I think you could be again. Maybe I'm wrong but I get the sense that in real life you're probably a decent guy too. To be honest your recent trajectory reminds me of Cryptonio and I don't want to see you end up like him. --JGGardiner (talk) 19:58, 24 November 2010 (UTC)

Completely appreciated. See my response at User talk:Cptnono/Archive 5#Maybe time for a break?. I think it is out of my system now! I was seriously livid at seeing editors repeatedly disregard guidelines and policies and figured I would do the same. Not really as fun as I originally thought it would be.Cptnono (talk) 20:05, 24 November 2010 (UTC)
Hi Cptnono having read any of the problems you been having but got to agree with JGG. I really respect you as a great editor. Looking forward to seeing the old Cptnono again :-) Bjmullan (talk) 22:02, 24 November 2010 (UTC)

Time of year to give Thanks

The Teamwork Barnstar
To Cptnono in appreciation of your efforts in working with others to build not only good articles, but in helping to make Misplaced Pages a collegial community. Well done. Malke 2010 (talk) 20:41, 24 November 2010 (UTC)
Wow. Thank you so much. Makes me feel bad for being so uncivil in a couple topic areas lately. Thank you for the reminder on how working with the community can be a great thing.Cptnono (talk) 21:01, 24 November 2010 (UTC)
Well deserved, Wear It With Pride ;) AgadaUrbanit (talk) 23:59, 24 November 2010 (UTC)
You're welcome, Cptnono. I've always enjoyed working with you and find you to be a civil and fine fellow.Malke 2010 (talk) 00:21, 25 November 2010 (UTC)
Not always, unfortunately. But I cannot not tell you how much I appreciate the reminder to endeavor to get back to that type of editing.Cptnono (talk) 00:23, 25 November 2010 (UTC)

Seriously pissed off

You, an experienced editor, who openly professes racist attitudes, who hypocritically claims "I don't give a shit about Israel or Palestine" when any fool can see from your editing record that much of your non trivial output has been directed at pro Israeli editing, You who openly calls people pricks and tell them to “fuck off” get a three hour editing ban. I, and inexperienced editor get an indefinite (potentially lifetime) ban on editing on Israel Palestine topics for (out of ignorance of the system) breaching procedural rules. What a joke.Prunesqualer (talk) 23:35, 24 November 2010 (UTC)

If you were nicer about it you probably could appeal your decision but it is doubtful there would be any support with your attitude. I would support such an appeal if you removed the garbage on your talk page, showed just a little bit of editing throughout the project instead of whining, and based it on "ignorance of the system".
And I do understand your frustration. Why do you think I have been such a jerk lately? Several editors have continued to do whatever they want with no repercussions and I decided to join their ranks. To be honest, I didn't like it nearly as much as I thought I would and am going to try to do a little better. But if you continue to assert that I am a racist, misrepresent my editing history (have you worked on any GAs or FAs?), and misrepresent my comments on you talk page while doing nothing but complaining then you are just as bad as anyone else here. Please consider my suggestion about the appeal above but knock this stuff off. Good thing I just got that three hour block because I really would love to be a raging jerk to you right now. Best of luck.Cptnono (talk) 23:41, 24 November 2010 (UTC)
If I where nicer about it eg like you, repeatedly calling for sanctions against people, calling people “pricks” or telling them to “fuck of” you mean? Prunesqualer (talk) 23:55, 24 November 2010 (UTC)
Wasn't appropriate but I can only feel so bad about it. I told Nableezy I was going to act as disruptive as he did and went for it. It is done now so you can start looking at yourself or enjoy your indefinite block.Cptnono (talk) 00:03, 25 November 2010 (UTC)

And where do you suggest I start looking at myself? Prunesqualer (talk) 00:10, 25 November 2010 (UTC)

See above where I point to a scenario where I would support an appeal.Cptnono (talk) 00:12, 25 November 2010 (UTC)
Prehaps you would be kind enough to be more explicit and explain why I should start “start looking at ? Prunesqualer (talk) 00:23, 25 November 2010 (UTC)
Instead of being pissed about what you see as a double standard (which I completely understand based on my history of trying to follow the rules while others do not) you should start editing, adjust the misrepresentations and remove the "vultures" comments from your page, and consider the options available to you that would drop the block. Indefinite does not need to meed forever unless you want it to. Coming here and ranting about how pissed off you are is not benefiting your editing status. Also take a look at WP:OFFER.Cptnono (talk) 00:29, 25 November 2010 (UTC)
“Coming here and ranting about how pissed off you are is not benefiting your editing status. “ Sounds like a catch 22 to me. Ie complain and you're damned by the status que, don’t complain and the status que prevails. Prunesqualer (talk) 00:40, 25 November 2010 (UTC)
You are still doing it. Venting might make you feel a little better but I have gone from understanding your concern to being dismissive of it based on you failing to get it. So make sure to read the link provided if you want anything to actually change.Cptnono (talk) 00:46, 25 November 2010 (UTC)
(ec--this is directed to Prunesqualer's last comment)(talk page stalker) No, the point is that complaining here gets you nowhere. Having long rants on your talk page that essentially amount to a claim that there is a cabal/conspiracy group controlling the POV on certain articles also gets you nowhere. Indefinite bans are removed when an editor can prove that they understand why the ban was enacted, and that they won't do the things that caused them to be banned again in the first place. The way you can do that is getting rid of all of your POV pushing, prove for at least a few months that you are capable of editing Misplaced Pages in a neutral fashion by making constructive, neutral edits to articles outside of the area you were topic banned in. Then explain clearly why you know what you did is wrong and why you won't do it again. This could take a while, depending on how egregious the community found your original problems to be. I promise, neither the encyclopedia nor the articles on I/P issues are going to disappear while you regain the community's trust. Whether or not what Cptnono did was correct, and whether or not he was treated fairly by the community when he broke the rules has no bearing on whether or not you will be allowed to edit in that area again. Continuing to rant here will actually make people less likely to trust you. So if you really are interested in editing Misplaced Pages per policy, guidelines, and general sanctions, you should drop the stick and walk away. This is just the advice of an uninvolved non-admin, but I think that, if you sincerely want to edit here, it's a good idea. If you don't, and all you want to do is complain how unfair the system is, please take that to another website (there are plenty of places on the internet where you can rant about how biased Misplaced Pages is). Qwyrxian (talk) 00:52, 25 November 2010 (UTC)

Sorry, again, I must ask you to be more explicit. Which link (please reinsert below). Prunesqualer (talk) 00:55, 25 November 2010 (UTC)


PS Where would we be if people like Galileo and Copernicus had followed the drop the stick and walk away? Prunesqualer (talk) 01:10, 25 November 2010 (UTC)

WP:OFFER.Cptnono (talk) 01:28, 25 November 2010 (UTC)
Fair enough. If Misplaced Pages wants to judge inexperienced editors far more severely for procedural errors rather than judging experienced editors for saying they are anti-Jew or anti-Arab or calling people “pricks” or telling them to “fuck off”, or clearly being hypocrites who am I to argue. Prunesqualer (talk) 01:56, 25 November 2010 (UTC)
You are still doing it. How about you go edit some articles and make the request. I assume you do not need to wait 6 months to have editors support it if you prove yourself. Anyways, I did not disrupt the main space as you did. Disruption on an article is more problematic in my opinion. That principle actually has some consensus throughout the community since civility blocks are not often done unless it is severe circumstances or restricted per an arbitration decision. So go edit and make sure you are not going against consensus or edit warring.Cptnono (talk) 02:08, 25 November 2010 (UTC)
There is no doubt whatsoever that Pro - Israeli groups have recruited, organised, and trained people in order to influence Misplaced Pages (see my user talk page). I suspect that other groups, opposed to Israel, have also attempted to infiltrate/subvert Wiki. In the light of this reality your complacent stance on consensus seems a little redundant. Prunesqualer (talk) 02:27, 25 November 2010 (UTC)
Are you saying that I was recruited by Israel to edit? Kind of funny that you are expressing all this rage about civility and blah blah blah but you have yet to go start editing but instead continue evolving rants. So lets pretend I am paid by Israel: Thank you for your assistance in the propaganda war by resigning yourself to the fact that you will not be editing in topic area. C'mon now, take the advice or don't. Realistically, the last thing we need is another editor who refuses to attempt to be neutral while also engaging in conspiracy theories. Cptnono (talk) 02:35, 25 November 2010 (UTC)
Oh come off it; “the last thing we need is another editor who refuses to attempt to be neutral”. I am not a Muslim or an Arab but I dare say I have prejudices. However I certainly don’t wish to be prejudiced. My life experiences have lead me to the edits/comments I have made, as have yours. How these ripples of consciousness will play out in the grand scheme of things who can say? Kill or be Killed? My tribe or yours? Compromise? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Prunesqualer (talkcontribs) 03:04, 25 November 2010 (UTC)
I don't follow. No clarification needed, though. I have given you my opinion on how you can return to the topic area and I now truly hope you do not take that advice.Cptnono (talk) 03:07, 25 November 2010 (UTC)

Enjoy your war Prunesqualer (talk) 03:08, 25 November 2010 (UTC)

Onward to victory!Cptnono (talk) 03:40, 25 November 2010 (UTC)
“Onward to victory!” that ought to be funny, but coming from you I don’t find it so. Prunesqualer (talk) 04:22, 25 November 2010 (UTC)
Who said it was meant to be funny? Probably should stop responding on my talk page before I start talking about girls again. In all seriousness, think over your options. Your contribution list should not be you doing nothing but being upset. I get why you are upset but there are ways to get it back on track if you feel like it. Will take some serious effort on your part though since right now you returning seems like it isn't (rightfully so) a possibility.Cptnono (talk) 10:57, 25 November 2010 (UTC)

Correos

Mail. --nsaum75 04:29, 25 November 2010 (UTC)

Happy Thanksgiving!


jiujitsuguy (talk) is wishing you happy thanksgiving!

Spread the cheer.

And don't friggen change for friggen anybody!--Jiujitsuguy (talk) 20:12, 25 November 2010 (UTC)

Disruption at Artistic reactions to the 1981 Irish hunger strike

I just thought I ought to inform you that the proposed deletion template you added to the Artistic reactions to the 1981 Irish hunger strike is being continuously removed by an editor who likes to call my fixing his disruption "disruptive". I'd just like to have your input on it please. The C of E. God Save The Queen! (talk) 19:55, 26 November 2010 (UTC)

FA review

I saw that you have nominated Sigi Schmid for FA review. I've been out of comission around here for a while (and that probably won't change soon unfortunately). Very busy with work and family. Good luck with the FA review. It will be great to have another FA related to Sounders FC.

In related news, I've been thinking of nominating Sounders FC for TFA on March 19 next year. The date coincides with their first match (so extra points for that), and also will be on-or-about the same week as the 2011 season starting so it will be good to schedule it then. What do you think of that plan? --SkotyWAC 06:23, 27 November 2010 (UTC)

Just to clarify, I wasn't talking about the featured topic goal. That will happen when it happens (maybe next year at the earliest). Above, I was talking about nominating Seattle Sounders FC for Today's Featured Article (TFA) on the main page for March 19. It think it'll be a pretty solid nomination to make it on that day. --SkotyWAC 02:27, 28 November 2010 (UTC)

Re: Server kittens

Yeah, I'm cool with non-templated references too. Don't really care either way, but since this line might end up getting copy-pasted around a lot I just wanted it as clean as possible.

I'm not sure what's going to happen either. I thought Shuki reverted Nableezy simply because the line discussed the legality issue. Then Jaakobou was saying that it was because Nableezy didn't use the exact line from the proposal in our discussion. To some extent, Nableezy might have gotten reverted just for being Nableezy; I'm not sure honestly. I know you and I respectfully disagree on this (which is cool, and which the whole project could use more of), but my stance was pretty much the same as LessHeard vanU—that there was some general consensus for the phrase (or the closest thing to consensus in the I-P topic area), but the discussion mostly fell apart before we could fully flesh out where to put it. I suspect there will still be a lot of edit warring over that as well.

Btw, I've been super busy lately, and will continue to be at least midway through next week (though realistically probably much longer), but I've been keeping an eye on the Sigi Schmid article as well. I tend to be a diff reviewer, only checking changes made to an article instead of combing the article itself, and pretty much all the changes editors have made since you nominated it for FA have looked good to me. I think the text is really solid, but wish we had a more recent picture of him in Sounders colors in the lead, or more pictures of him from his playing or earlier coaching days (). Ah well, I know those are a total pain to come by. Great work on getting it this far! ← George 11:39, 28 November 2010 (UTC)

Inman

No problem. I thought the name rang a bell when I saw him mentioned at WP:AN - I was the original AfD nominator! Bencherlite 11:41, 29 November 2010 (UTC)

Interaction ban

Under the authority of WP:ARBPIA#Discretionary sanctions, and based on the discussion in this AE thread, you are hereby admonished for personal attacks and ad hominem comments and are prohibited from commenting on or interacting with Nableezy (talk · contribs) anywhere on Misplaced Pages. Please see WP:IBAN for the complete scope of the interaction ban. If you believe that Nableezy has violated their ban from interacting with you, you may not react to that alleged violation except by the procedure specified in the AE thread above. T. Canens (talk) 22:05, 29 November 2010 (UTC)

And in response to your comment there, I was somewhat ambivalent until I noticed that you had previously been sanctioned for discussing editor conduct on article talk pages. While many of your comments in the discussion Cla68 linked to was acceptable viewed alone, together they are not acceptable; and the history of negative interactions is certainly favors an interaction ban. I do note that you are one of the more reasonable editors in this area from what I have seen, but it is probably best to take a step back when you find yourself frustrated. T. Canens (talk) 22:24, 29 November 2010 (UTC)
It sucks since I see where you are coming from. I still disagree for the most part and am appealing. Please don't think I am disregarding your response, though.Cptnono (talk) 22:32, 29 November 2010 (UTC)

in RE talk:TPM - censoring talk

Hey, since I usually trust your judgement and you're active on the TPM article, I thought I'd ask for your feedback on this new subsection I just added (either there or at my talkpage). I'm inclined to just ignore the other editor I mentioned, but I do think it's worth noting at the talkpage if not at an admin noticeboard. It appears to be a pattern with that editor removing talkpage sections under false claims. -PrBeacon (talk) 18:36, 30 November 2010 (UTC)

No problem. Consider retitling the subsection since "censoring" might cause a knee-jerk reaction.Cptnono (talk) 18:48, 30 November 2010 (UTC)

Creampie move

Cptnono, could you have another look at Herostratus's move request? I thought in the previous discussion which you refer to your rationale was that this was and should remain the article on the pornographic practice (a stance with which I agree). But it strikes me as legitimate -- or actually, an improvement -- then to refer to it as "creampie (pornography)" in the title; certainly all the cited sources discuss it in that context. --JN466 19:49, 30 November 2010 (UTC)

AfDs

Hi. As you just participated in discussions on a closely related topic (also a current AfD re a Jewish list), which may raise some of the same issues, I'm simply mentioning that the following are currently ongoing: AfDs re lists of Jewish Nobel laureates, entertainers, inventors, actors, cartoonists, and heavy metal musicians. Best.--Epeefleche (talk) 09:13, 1 December 2010 (UTC)

Rabbi Pinto

Rabbi Pinto I appreciate the commentary. Am frustrated because a few people are bullying info here when the facts are simply inaccurate. I will follow your advice. Would greatly appreciate your review and feedback and commentary. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Babasalichai (talkcontribs) 05:01, 8 December 2010 (UTC)

I dont know how to sign and thats a mistake. Anyway are you interested in reviewing the material, have you ? Or just coaching from sidelines ? (and I apologize if not signing the right way)..contribs) —Preceding unsigned comment added by 68.173.122.113 (talk) 05:33, 8 December 2010 (UTC)

Ok so can you add it in that case ? Who says besmirch ? Of course its factual that he owns it - Will you add it and be involved in this process ? All of my edits are supported entirerly by the facts and the articles already included as sources. Babasalichai (talk) 05:46, 8 December 2010 (UTC)

Please so get involved and post and comment ? I wont and will leave it alone but if others see the post isnt accurate then others will follow. And for the record follow the edit page their reasoning makes no sense at all and they have given in on nothing. Babasalichai (talk) 05:55, 8 December 2010 (UTC)

Schmid

It may take me a day or two to get to it, but I'll have another look and copy-edit anything I think still needs doing. I don't think it's in any danger of immediate archiving, so I wouldn't worry if it's gone quiet. If I haven't done anything in a week, come back and shout at me a bit. The weekend is the most likely time I'll get to it. --Sarastro1 (talk) 19:36, 8 December 2010 (UTC)

Slight delay as RL was much busier than expected this weekend. I want to come at it fresh, so it will be one of the first things I do this week (my brain is too wrecked to review this evening!) --Sarastro1 (talk) 21:52, 12 December 2010 (UTC)
As you have gathered, I'm copyediting now! Just revert anything I mess up or you are not happy with, I won't be offended! --Sarastro1 (talk) 21:28, 14 December 2010 (UTC)
Switched to support, with one reservation which I will strike once you reply one way or another. However, I'll keep looking and may tweak prose some more over the next day or two. --Sarastro1 (talk) 22:31, 14 December 2010 (UTC)
Done the lead comment and switched to full support. However, I'm not sure the ref now covers the comment in the lead and I haven't added one: if you think it needs one, you may need to tweak it! Cheers. --Sarastro1 (talk) 21:27, 16 December 2010 (UTC)
I just responded there. I like it. I think it meets the reference and what happened just fine. The only alternative I could see (somewhat tongue in cheek) would be saying that his defensive tactics led to unentertaining ball but that would raise a whole host of issues. Your help was really appreciated.Cptnono (talk) 21:32, 16 December 2010 (UTC)

Your AE appeal

For the reasons I stated here, and subject to the warnings and reminders therein, your ban from interacting with Nableezy (talk · contribs) is lifted, effective immediately. T. Canens (talk) 22:41, 8 December 2010 (UTC)

I understand and appreciate the reminder. Thank you.Cptnono (talk) 22:42, 8 December 2010 (UTC)

Vancouver Southsiders

It's about the fan club not the soccer club. Please see the talk page. I am not going to respond here or on my talk page thanks. --Walter Görlitz (talk) 07:03, 11 December 2010 (UTC)

Also, please do not use profanity on my talk page. --Walter Görlitz (talk) 07:09, 11 December 2010 (UTC)
Per the discussion at WP:WQA, please don't swear at other editors, even in the face of provocation. I trust we'll not see a repeat offence. Cheers. Fences&Windows 14:28, 12 December 2010 (UTC)
Blargh. I hear you. Appreciate the warning. Cptnono (talk) 15:30, 12 December 2010 (UTC)
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Settlements archiving??

Just saw your note. Haven't figured out if it's just that end part that's not finished; if not, could you just include that and then link to the archive page? (Note I screwed something up in the archiving and am even now redoing it from scratch correctly, so don't look at archive page for another 10 minutes. Unless what I thought was screwed up was related to your editing in middle of my archiving. We'll see.) CarolMooreDC (talk) 03:21, 12 December 2010 (UTC)

It shouldn't be a problem as a whole to keep it in context. Just the subsection will be worse then a lengthy discussion. With all of the other stuff gone it should not be as confusing. Give it a couple weeks and if there is no more conversation then go for it. Cptnono (talk) 03:26, 12 December 2010 (UTC)

Agreed

FWIW, I agree with your revert. Let me know if you need help arriving at consensus on this one. --SkotyWAC 08:14, 13 December 2010 (UTC)

Replies

Kitchen staff? I work at Microsoft. Not sure what you mean.

Reasons why the list is different:

  • It was a point of contention during FA review.
  • It's not necessary that all MLS articles use the same format. This is an FA level article and therefore often needs to be different.
  • It's the only choice available that fully compliant with WP:FLAG.
  • There was already consensus among editors to make this change on WT:SSFC.

Glad to see the FA review is going well for Sigi Schmid. It will be nice to add another FA to the list. I'm happy you didn't give up on it. You've worked hard on it and passing FA will be a nice payday for your work. I look forward to congratulating you.

2010 Lamar Hunt U.S. Open Cup Final is my current project. It's on its way to GA level now (already nominated). Then it's on to PR and then finally FA review. ETA is probably late February at best. --SkotyWAC 09:02, 15 December 2010 (UTC)

One other note. I'm going to request permission for another picture for the USOC article soon. I'll also ask for a picture of Sigi while I'm at it. They have some very good pictures of him that would work well in the article. I'll let you know when permission has been granted. --SkotyWAC 09:06, 15 December 2010 (UTC)

Apologies

for accidentally removing your comment as I added mine. I was heading back to reinsert it when I saw you beat me to it. Sorry. Best.--Epeefleche (talk) 21:08, 16 December 2010 (UTC)

No worries. Assumed it was an accident.Cptnono (talk) 21:09, 16 December 2010 (UTC)

in re ANI, another editor's allegation of SPI

Hey, I'd like to get your feedback on something -- here or at my talkpage, please. Another editor, User:Doc9871, just accused me of being the main account for User:Dylan_Flaherty at an ANI over the Palin article:

"If I had to pick one editor as a possible Dylan master, it would be PrBeacon (talk · contribs). The wikistalk is impressive ... and I'm not seeing much in the way of edit overlap (I could be wrong). If a CU is run, I'd put my money here." - Doc9871

My response is directly below his. I probably made a mistake in mentioning the another editor who just resumed his snarky retorts from a few months ago, elsewhere, and who just replied at ANI too.

I wasn't directly involved in the dispute at the Palin article or at the ANI. But from our discussions at the SPLC & TPM articles, I considered Dylan to be a reasonable minded editor. I wasn't aware of his aruments at Palin. In the ANI, I posted a couple of small points to support his right to defend himself. I don't know how to read that wiki-stalk thing that Doc linked , other than noticing that the same list for him & Dylan seems similar -- and it shows nothing more than overlapping interests. If and when a CU is performed, I expect an apology from him but I'm not about to write that at ANI as it sounds as petty as his post does. But his accusations seem too serious to just toss out there. Regards, -PrBeacon (talk) 07:12, 17 December 2010 (UTC)

I am so sorry, PRB. I don't have the time to look at the diffs right now but should be able to tomorrow. Without looking into it in depth, I would see if getting a check user to clear your name is acceptable. I thought Dylan was alright but he has kind of rubbed me the wrong way lately. You and I have not always agreed but you have always seemed more than decent and the mannerisms just don't seem to be there so I assume the allegation is ridiculous. Besides seeing if getting a check user is allowed, the other advice I would give right now is looking at what you might have done to get on the wrong side of the accuser. I am not saying you are to blame but I have noticed that when I start getting frustrated I usually had at least some part in it. That doesn't excuse anyone else crossing the line ad it might be too late to realistically come to an understanding with the other user but consider it. No matter what, continued allegations against you are going to be maddening.Cptnono (talk) 08:02, 17 December 2010 (UTC)
Thanks for your reply. I have no history with the Doc. I can only assume he chose to attack me because I was one of the few voices of support for Dylan (albeit very mild on the spectrum, there, especially compared to how many folks are attacking Dylan for speaking his mind though yes too aggressively and frequently). I happen to think he's right in principle as far as the bigger picture goes (Palin vs. GOP), though i'm doubtful the 'Africa' barb is worth mentioning. And I really don't know enough about CU so I guess I have another thing to read up on now. Thanks again. -PrBeacon (talk) 08:11, 17 December 2010 (UTC)

Talk:Facial (sex act)

Your comment "Have you read WP:CAPTION?" is not a question about how to improve the article and could be considered aggressive or sarcastic. Comment on content, not on the contributor. Kenilworth Terrace (talk) 21:13, 17 December 2010 (UTC)

Not sure if that is some crocodile tears or a knee-jerk reaction but it was an honest question since it doesn't seem like you are following it. I have asked you for clarification because of that so don't take it the wrong way. It was only sarcastic in your head and I won;t be apologizing for you misinterpreting my comments.Cptnono (talk) 21:20, 17 December 2010 (UTC)
I don't need you to apologise. But you do need to abide by Misplaced Pages's civility conventions. Kenilworth Terrace (talk) 21:46, 17 December 2010 (UTC)