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| hello, i just came across ], and i confess i hate this kind of childish, pseudo-encyclopedian scrawling (i've had enough of this kind of thing in the Chinese wikipedia). where can i put up my proposal for its deletion?--] 09:06, 27 February 2006 (UTC) | hello, i just came across ], and i confess i hate this kind of childish, pseudo-encyclopedian scrawling (i've had enough of this kind of thing in the Chinese wikipedia). where can i put up my proposal for its deletion?--] 09:06, 27 February 2006 (UTC) | ||
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| Instantnood, my name is Casey Harrigan. I am a collegiate debater for Michigan State University. Could you contact me about proper citation of some of your work? Please email me at: harriga8@msu.edu. Thanks. 10:58, 27 February 2006 (UTC) | |||
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Unsourced images
OrphanBot does not tag images as unsourced. It just removes images that are already tagged from articles. Images that OrphanBot removes are generally candidates for speedy deletion under grounds I4: images with unknown source or copyright status that have been on Misplaced Pages for over a week. --Carnildo 10:34, 1 January 2006 (UTC)
{{categoryredirect}}
Please be advised that {{categoryredirect}} requires a parameter in which the redirect is redirected to, otherwise the bot does not operate on that category. Furthermore, that feature has now been restricted to sysop use only. --AllyUnion (talk) 11:35, 1 January 2006 (UTC)
- You used on Category:Transportation in Hong Kong. It was recently restricted due to abuse and complaints made by various people. One of them was due to a new user not understanding the Misplaced Pages enough, and another by an anonymous IP. --AllyUnion (talk) 11:49, 1 January 2006 (UTC)
Why are you reinstating the images?
Apparently the images you are putting back on have no source info. They don't belong on WP if that is the case. Isn't it better to be trying to get the source data rather than fighting a bot? novacatz 12:48, 1 January 2006 (UTC)
Non-soverign territories
What is this new phrase supposed to mean? SchmuckyTheCat 22:27, 1 January 2006 (UTC)
Re: Des Voeux Road
For me, it essentially just came down to flow. The previous version just felt very segmented, and didn't seem to flow very well. The history of the two roads are essentially the same, so I don't think there's any point splitting it (and they were already bunched together in the previous version anyway). I wouldn't mind it though if you split the transport section and put them back under each road. - Hinto 19:07, 4 January 2006 (UTC)
- Looks good; I just removed a duplicate sentence in the intro. - Hinto 23:59, 10 January 2006 (UTC)
Comments on Alanmak
Alanmak is kinda phobic about the IPA phonetics symbols, and he's trying to set them abay. His very reason to avoid others adding back the symbols is do not make any revert "until a concensus is formed" or "I've warned you". I don't this makes sense: from alpha to omega he is the only player of the devil's advocate. What say you? -- Jerry Crimson Mann 05:54, 6 January 2006 (UTC)
The country names China and Taiwan
I've added my opinion on this issue at Misplaced Pages talk:Naming conventions (Chinese)#The country names China and Taiwan. Please feel free to provide your opinion and engage in discussions. Chanheigeorge 08:25, 8 January 2006 (UTC)
Let it go man
Hi, I am not sure what is going on between you and Huaiwei, but can you just cool it down a bit. I just noticed you reverted something on Queensway that Huaiwei did. Now, I know the edit summary looks like it was crafted deliberately to annoy you -- but you don't have to respond. And bring the revert war to a new article (queensway) is just causing collateral damage -- please cool it down a tad. novacatz 15:57, 8 January 2006 (UTC)
Nuclear war
Hi, please stop your nuclear war with User:Huaiwei. Only you can prevent ForestFires. Reverting will just hurt the project. Please don't do it. I've blocked both of you for 24 hours, to give you some time to cool down. --Phroziac . o º 16:40, 8 January 2006 (UTC)
- You're welcome. Yes, we are, but only in clear cases of abuse. You and Huaiwei aren't one of those cases, I believe. (Since arbcom already ran a case for you). Mindspillage made a motion on WP:RFAr to extend the probation (for both of you) to all articles, and it looks like it will pass. (has 4 votes for and 0 against right now). I feel that it may be possible to use it to put out the forest fire. Who started this anyway? --Phroziac . o º 23:12, 10 January 2006 (UTC)
Char siu
Hi there! I saw your request, but after deleting it I couldn't figure out what you wanted to do with the page to fix the edit history, so I'm going to leave it as is. --HappyCamper 19:41, 8 January 2006 (UTC)
Char siu
I was doing CSD patrol when I came across Char siu. My suggestion is at Talk:Char_siu#Deletion_of_redirect. enochlau (talk) 23:38, 8 January 2006 (UTC)
Disambig pages
Please note Misplaced Pages:Manual_of_Style_(disambiguation_pages)#Piping, which suggests that piping is not to be used. This is in reference to Queensway. enochlau (talk) 23:42, 8 January 2006 (UTC)
Category:Ancient peoples of China
Since I know you have that whole issue with Taiwan/China/mainland... I figure to asked you first whether you would think it be correct to title it "Ancient Chinese" otherwise I'd incline to change it to "Ancient people of China". --AllyUnion (talk) 05:35, 9 January 2006 (UTC)
- The usage of "peoples" is unobjectionable. Plus it's a subcategory of Category:Ancient peoples, so I'd leave it as is for uniformity. --MarkSweep (call me collect) 05:53, 9 January 2006 (UTC)
See also other HK series
Some nice ideas have brewed in the Chinese wikipedia . Could you help upgrade the templates? -- Jerry Crimson Mann 12:52, 10 January 2006 (UTC)
"Western"
by "Western" we mean influenced by Europe and its colonial descendants. we do not mean describing a cardinal direction opposite of "east". as such, it should be capitalized--Jiang 23:57, 10 January 2006 (UTC)
Article Ban: Category:Chinese newspapers
Instant, per your probation and constant warring with Huaiwei on this category I have elected to ban both of you from editing it further. The notice is posted on AN/I. Please take a moment and consider your actions on these articles and interaction with Huaiwei, it does not reflect well on either of you. --Wgfinley 09:12, 11 January 2006 (UTC)
ROC local elections, 2005
This article lists the Chinese name of the election as "94年中華民國地方公職人員選舉". Is this wrong? Because on the Chinese Misplaced Pages, the article is called "2005年中華民國地方公職人員選舉". — J3ff 13:48, 11 January 2006 (UTC)
Notice of new bans
For continuing sterile edit wars, despite all of the warnings and previous bans, I am banning both you and Huaiwei from Char siu, List of railways in China, and Guangshen Railway for the duration of your probation. This is going to be logged and discussed at WP:AN/I. Dmcdevit·t 00:22, 12 January 2006 (UTC)
Talk:Queensway
Could you please comment on Talk:Queensway about the reasons for and against each wording? I want to resolve the edit war. If the edit war continues, I will consider blocking you and Huaiwei from this page. Thanks. enochlau (talk) 00:28, 12 January 2006 (UTC)
Additional Ban
I have now also added Queensway to the list. Instant, I know that you can be a valuable contributor to Misplaced Pages, replying in kind and continuing this edit warring is not helping anything. I'm begging you, please stop, you and Huaiwei need to step back for a bit and then try to work out an understanding, I will be happy to help with that any way I can. --Wgfinley 02:21, 12 January 2006 (UTC)
Egg Tart != Dim Sum
In North America, Egg Tarts ARE standard fare in dim-sum restaurant. I have seen them in dim-sum restaurants in NYC, LA, San Francisco, Toronto, Vancouver, Philadelphia, Boston, etc. If that is the case, I don't know why they wouldn't be considered dim sum, especially since more expensive dim-sum establishments are always inventing new dishes. Dyl 03:02, 12 January 2006 (UTC)
HK Wikipedian meeting
As you know, Hong Kong Wikipedian on Chinese Misplaced Pages is proposing the next meeting. Hope you would come. :P--Simon Shek 12:06, 12 January 2006 (UTC)
- Well, I certainly hope you can join -- then I can clip you over the ears for getting yourself blocked (LOL just kidding). Hope you can make it -- disappointed if you can't. Take care. novacatz 01:38, 13 January 2006 (UTC)
24 Hour block for Char siu edit
I appreciate the honesty but I'm afraid I do have to block you for 24 hours. Please be mindful of your bans and make a concerted effort to not earn anymore! Stay away from Huaiwei wherever possible, if he comes and edits on something you've been working on it will be noted, several admins are watching this now, do not respond in kind if he does. --Wgfinley 19:54, 12 January 2006 (UTC)
How do I...
Recently I am editing the page Cheung Wang Estate and was puzzled by the making of the link "Princess Margaret Hospital". There are four hospitals with the the same name in the world and how should I make it a link to Princess Margaret Hospital (Hong Kong) but at the same time still appearing as "Princess Margaret Hospital"?
(Nxn 0405 chl 21:52, 13 January 2006 (UTC))
List of languages
Hi Instantnood,
Just to notify you that both you and Alanmak have reached your 3RR limit for this article.
The page history is starting to look like a script from the Three Stooges. I'm not saying that you are the one to blame, but I would appreciate it if you would refrain from bringing your ongoing fight to this article.
kwami 19:13, 14 January 2006 (UTC)
Classified information
Could you and alanmak join the discussion on the talk page for this article?--agr 23:34, 14 January 2006 (UTC)
List of cities in China
Unfortunately the edit warring has now continued on this article as well so I have instituted another article ban for you on this page. I was hoping that after the first few the point would be made but it appears that is not the case. I'm growing tired of them and you must be growing tired of the growing list of articles you can't edit. Please, cease the warring with Huaiwei before this results in another Arbitration case seeking more serious sanctions. --Wgfinley 10:03, 15 January 2006 (UTC)
Supreme court
I have added this to the ban list for both of you, it looks like it was going on before the above and I wasn't aware of it. That one was far too much back and forth with the two of you though, it's pretty much a no-brainer for a ban on that article for both of you. --Wgfinley 04:07, 16 January 2006 (UTC)
You are now banned from List of museums --TimPope 17:46, 19 January 2006 (UTC)
Taiwan Mandarin
Hey Instantnood - thanks for your input on this article. I think I have answered your concerns on the article's talk page, please check it out and see what you think. I'd like to hear your opinions on the matter. Thanks! Taiwantaffy 05:30, 16 January 2006 (UTC)
Misplaced Pages: Superpower
Would you like to come to join us to edit the Subject "Superpower", the China section? I found that some people editing that page are very bias against China. I just want to bring more people with more knowledge of China to edit that page.Here is the link: http://en.wikipedia.org/Superpower Thanks —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Junlee (talk • contribs) . 01:55, January 17, 2006 (UTC)
List of airlines
I've banned you both from this article, it is quite obvious it is in order, you both continue to revert each other with comments being made in edit summaries instead of where they belong -- on the talk page. You haven't posted anything here in over two weeks yet continue to revert each other, hence, I'm banning you both from editing this one. --Wgfinley 05:24, 20 January 2006 (UTC)
Are you going tommorow?
novacatz 06:42, 20 January 2006 (UTC)
Re:Unidentified image
Thanks. But I'll probably reupload it when I get a chance so it's got a proper filename :) enochlau (talk) 23:04, 20 January 2006 (UTC)
Arbcom again
I've asked for something more to be done about your continual crusade.SchmuckyTheCat 05:49, 21 January 2006 (UTC)
- And, of course, there is a section for you to reply there. SchmuckyTheCat 20:12, 21 January 2006 (UTC)
Clock tower
I've banned you from this article as well. --Wgfinley 18:33, 23 January 2006 (UTC)
More Category Bans
I've now also banned you from Category:Transport in Hong Kong, Category:Transportation in Macau, and Category:Transportation in China. I'm really disappointed with you on these Instant -- Schmucky is 100% correct, this appears to be nothing more than to stir up an old debate. It's particularly disappointing because he's been leaving you alone and this could also be perceived as goading him into a fight. I cannot stress more that you need to re-think your actions in regard to these articles. This kind of behavior isn't helping anything. --Wgfinley 18:56, 23 January 2006 (UTC)
Lists of country-related topics
Is now also on your ban list. --Wgfinley 20:20, 23 January 2006 (UTC)
Singapore Science Centre
You have been banned from this page, the revert warring is blatant and obvious. --Wgfinley 20:18, 24 January 2006 (UTC)
7 Day Block
Effective immediately I have blocked you for 7 days for continued defiance of the ArbCom ruling and continuing to edit war on various articles. Your actions to intentionally and clearly edit war after numerous warnings, pleas, and blocks of 12 articles in the past 12 days are a continued disruption to Misplaced Pages. I suggest you take the 7 days to reflect on your actions and consider more appropriate forms of editing that are not prone to the incessant edit warring. --Wgfinley 20:30, 24 January 2006 (UTC)
Misplaced Pages:Requests for arbitration/Instantnood 3
Hello,
An Arbitration case involving you has been opened: Misplaced Pages:Requests for arbitration/Instantnood 3. Please add evidence to the evidence sub-page, Misplaced Pages:Requests for arbitration/Instantnood 3/Evidence. You may also contribute to the case on the workshop sub-page, Misplaced Pages:Requests for arbitration/Instantnood 3/Workshop.
On behalf of the Arbitration Committee, — Preceding unsigned comment added by Kelly Martin (talk • contribs) 03:05, January 26, 2006 (UTC)
Kurów
Could you please write a stub http://zh.wikipedia.org/Kur%C3%B3w - just a few sentences based on http://en.wikipedia.org/Kur%C3%B3w ? Only 2 -5 sentences enough. Please. Pietras1988 21:20, 29 January 2006 (UTC)
- Yes, you can. Look Polish phonology. If you finishing, you would link to this article? Template:Pietras1988 20:14, 17 February 2006 (UTC)
Tram
hey, instantnood, i thought i saw a air-conditioned tram today, but i'm not sure, u know anything about that? --K.C. Tang 06:00, 3 February 2006 (UTC)
- Wow, nice to see my $2 is going to good use there... novacatz 08:05, 3 February 2006 (UTC)
- It probably wouldn't be $2 any more... the air conditioned buses cost more than the non-air conditioned ones, they'd probably do the same :) Lucky Hong Kong, in Sydney, from Central to Chinatown is $A2.80, and that's a 5 minute walk >.< enochlau (talk) 00:11, 4 February 2006 (UTC)
- haha, it's a bit 大鄉里 of me indeed. they must have been running on the island for some years, but i just noticed them some weeks ago!--K.C. Tang 04:50, 18 February 2006 (UTC)
Friendly Warning
Instant for the love of all that is holy please refrain from going into articles and re-igniting old debates, even if it appears to be minor. This edit was brought to my attention. I'm not going to block you for parentheses however the point that this article was previously hotly debated and has now calmed down is a point well taken by those who brought it to my attention. My suggestion to you for the near future is to avoid articles you edit warred on wherever possible. Ones like these where there was a war, then it went away, then you come and make a change somewhat related to that war makes it look like you are going around starting the edit warring all over again. In some cases I think that's what you're doing, in others not. Whatever the case, the appearance is there and should be avoided at all costs. --Wgfinley 13:30, 3 February 2006 (UTC)
New Block, Two Weeks
Instant, I can't tell you how disappointed I am but I am forced to block you for two weeks now. Despite continued warngings about revert warring, despite my continued advice to you here to avoid conflicts with the aforementioned folks you continue your behavior of edit warring with them. I don't know how else to get my point across, so I have blocked you for two weeks. I also have an inquiry into your alleged use of a sockpuppet in order to vote in a CfD which was done in evasion of a block. --Wgfinley 22:27, 3 February 2006 (UTC)
I've read Enochlau's request, if you want to enter into a mentorship agreement I will consider lifting the block as soon as it is put into place. I think there should probably be three but let's see what could happen, at least one of them should be an admin. --Wgfinley 00:55, 4 February 2006 (UTC)
- Instant -- I understand what you are saying about the other three, however, like I said before and what I have likewise told to Huaiwei a hundred times, it's not your holy mission to correct this wrong (as you see it) on Misplaced Pages. You're on probation, conflicts like this should be avoided and not sought out. I have argued this ad nauseum with Huaiwei so I certainly don't want to do so with you. I suggest you actively and cooperatively work on a mentorship program, get me some folks who will work with you and I will remove the block. Then go about making the great contributions to many articles I know you're capable of and ignore the infighting of the past resting assured that other editors, maybe not right away and maybe a bit longer down he road, will look at things and make changes. --Wgfinley 14:01, 7 February 2006 (UTC)
Instantnood, we'll see if you can stay away from anything controversial and make good edits. Otherwise, I will again call for mentorship, perhaps in conjunction with an ArbCom order. But do let me know if you change your mind about mentorship. enochlau (talk) 05:10, 18 February 2006 (UTC)
- Controversial? It's hard to give you a precise indication, but silly stuff like changing commas/brackets with "Hong Kong, PRC" is definitely out. If you want an indication of what's not acceptable, Misplaced Pages:Requests for arbitration/Instantnood 3/Evidence has plenty of diffs. I know it may seem unfair, especially since you believe a certain point of view/piece of information to be correct, but I think that before you make any edits, make an honest assessment as to whether the other guys are likely to oppose your edit. If so, to nip conflict in the bud, don't do it, and put a note on the talk page instead. If your assessment was wrong, and your edit is reverted by others, don't revert them to your revision. You also need to provide a statement at Misplaced Pages:Requests_for_arbitration/Instantnood_3#Statement_by_Instantnood, even if you feel the case should not be proceeding. Wgfinley is doing a fine job helping you out with evidence and counsel, and you should be cooperative with the Arbitration Committee because the stuff they'll dish out to you will be harsher than the two weeks off you just had. Cheers. enochlau (talk) 10:43, 18 February 2006 (UTC)
Re:"Kung Hei Fat Choi" signs
Too late! I was in the city yesterday and they were all gone already. Next year :) enochlau (talk) 23:04, 3 February 2006 (UTC)
- Actually, I managed to snap one, but I didn't have my camera on me, so I just took it with my camera's phone. As such, the quality is pretty bad and I don't quite want to upload it. Better luck next time... and welcome back. enochlau (talk) 01:25, 18 February 2006 (UTC)
Misplaced Pages:Deletion review#List of interesting or unusual_place_names
Further to your views on the undeletion, you may be interested that the page was relisted on Misplaced Pages:Articles for deletion/List of interesting or unusual place names (2nd nomination). Regards--A Y Arktos 10:45, 11 February 2006 (UTC)
Pictures of Lam Tin & other HK places
I've recently took some pictures of Lam Tin MTR, including the plaque, and put it onto the article as you requested some months ago. In addition, I've also took some other pictures of scenes in Hong Kong. Deryck C. 09:14, 14 February 2006 (UTC)
- Lam Tin (MTR), Airport Tunnel, Chatham Road. That's all I can remember. Deryck C. 09:32, 19 February 2006 (UTC)
Template
I've been busy recently. And I thought you would change the HK-series templates into the style of the Chinese wikipedia's ones. :) -- Jerry Crimson Mann 03:53, 18 February 2006 (UTC)
- Jerry, could I have a link to the template on the Chinese WP please? :) enochlau (talk) 05:11, 18 February 2006 (UTC)
languages of Hong Kong
i think the article has gone astray. now there are even sections for Russian and Persian. the article is supposed to mention the representative languages used in Hong Kong, but now... writing this way one can list more than 100 languages in the article. frankly, i regret initiating the article... it just snowballs into something messy and incompletable... what do u think? --K.C. Tang 02:24, 19 February 2006 (UTC)
- yes, the statistics is a problem. but i think in this case common sense is to be trusted. the comment made by user:Kvasir hits the point. the article has become a photo gallery for foreigin languages visible in Hong Kong... yes, i confess i committed the sin at the very beginning... but i did't know it was to snowball into something like that... headache, real headache--K.C. Tang 07:14, 19 February 2006 (UTC)
- do u think i should axe the undesirable content? don't just say "be bold!", u know how much diplomatics there is on Misplaced Pages... --K.C. Tang 06:47, 20 February 2006 (UTC)
Re: Country templates
This list is not only for ISO 3166 codes. The article has already mentioned the problem that "a number of such country codes exist, including the ISO 3166-1 codes, the IOC Country codes, and the FIFA country codes. They are not always compatible and consistent with each other, and are often counterintuitive." The name "Hong Kong, China" and the code "HKG" has long been used in pairs in a lot of sport events. For many times, a lot of non-Hong Kong Wikipedians that don't know much about Hong Kong would automatically use {{HKG}} for articles about sport events. But in those situations, "Hong Kong, China", instead of "Hong Kong" should be used. Every time it took me a long time to change all the "Hong Kong" to "Hong Kong, China". This has happened for many times. It is pragmatic to use "HKG", according to the IOC, for "Hong Kong, China". We can simply use "HK" for "Hong Kong". For the {{HKG-PRC}} and {{MAC-PRC}}, the names of the templates are not descriptive. Because "PRC" should stands for he "People's Republic of China", instead of just "China". Anyway, there are many many templates already. So, I just redirect the redundant ones to the existing ones. {{HK}}, {{HKG}}, {{HKSAR}}, {{HK(PRC)}} and {{HK-full}} are already sufficient to serve all kinds of purposes, and are more user-friendly (because the names of the templates are simplier and descriptive). - Alanmak 06:21, 19 February 2006 (UTC)
Crown copyright
I'm writing an article about Hong Kong Strategic Route and Exit Number System and I wanna include a map of it into the article. As it's HK gov't copyright, is it legitimate that I "crown" the map and poster and put it up here? Deryck C. 14:55, 19 February 2006 (UTC)
edit war
Hello, Don't edit war over templates. See User_talk:Alanmak#Cut-and-paste_edit_war. -- Curps 23:31, 19 February 2006 (UTC)
HKCOTW - HSBC
Thought I'd just share some thoughts about the prospects on this - I hope the comment I made on the nomination didnt come accross badly... to be fair both articles need work...
If you were thinking of HSBC I had been thinking about the local parts of this and have been sketching out some ideas User:Ian3055/HSBC table draft, the text and links and so on probably arn't 100% yet, I'm erring towards option (b), but I'm not completely sold yet...
Only other thought was that if it is the global company probably ought to post the colab to the UK board and the Business and Economics wikiproject. (PS I do have a conflict on this one, please tell me if you think its unduely influencing me!!) Ian3055 20:28, 24 February 2006 (UTC)
- I didnt really mean do the nominations there, I recon its a legitimate nomination for HKCOTW regardless - just thought we could let them know if it is HKCOTW. Cheers. Ian3055 22:32, 27 February 2006 (UTC)
Rebecca Lee
Hello. Is this article to be taken seriously? Since when does Earth have three poles? Maybe a few sources would help. Greetings, Sandstein 20:50, 24 February 2006 (UTC)
National languge of the ROC
Thanks; if only Alanmak was this helpful. – Zntrip 21:28, 25 February 2006 (UTC)
Category:Hong Kong cultural icons
Re: : Do you intend to create such a category? Otherwise I'll revert the addition of the non-existent category. Cheers. enochlau (talk) 04:35, 26 February 2006 (UTC)
- I don't know - the only article in that is Bauhinia blakeana, and the category doesn't appear to have ever existed. enochlau (talk) 10:13, 26 February 2006 (UTC)
Re: photos and mock exam
About the photos: in that case can you help me checking out?
About the exam: I'm just F4 this year enjoying life. Mock exam the same time next year. Deryck C. 07:48, 27 February 2006 (UTC)
enough is enough
hello, i just came across this article, and i confess i hate this kind of childish, pseudo-encyclopedian scrawling (i've had enough of this kind of thing in the Chinese wikipedia). where can i put up my proposal for its deletion?--K.C. Tang 09:06, 27 February 2006 (UTC)
Information Request
Instantnood, my name is Casey Harrigan. I am a collegiate debater for Michigan State University. Could you contact me about proper citation of some of your work? Please email me at: harriga8@msu.edu. Thanks. 10:58, 27 February 2006 (UTC)