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::Nah, problem was that my new username had to exist for at least four days before system allowed access to semi-protect article. Now okay. Except that I can't get refs to come right in BRICS material newly added at foreign and military relations section. Can someone pse fix? Thanks. ] (]) 22:02, 5 July 2011 (UTC) ::Nah, problem was that my new username had to exist for at least four days before system allowed access to semi-protect article. Now okay. Except that I can't get refs to come right in BRICS material newly added at foreign and military relations section. Can someone pse fix? Thanks. ] (]) 22:02, 5 July 2011 (UTC)

== "copyright violation" undone ==

Administrator Nick-D, who has never worked on this article, stalked and hounded me here, claiming copyright violation as his "reason" for deleting my recent edits in which I cited reliable UN and SA sources. I have undone his deletions. For his edification, works of the United Nations that are not offered for sale, such as the documents I have cited, are in the . I would further add that works of the South African Government Communications and Information Service, such as the other documents I cited, are inherently in the public domain since they are a source of public information. (See here ). ] (]) 02:23, 6 July 2011 (UTC)

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Capital

Why does this article name the "judicial capital"? That's not relevant imho. I understand the mentioning of the legislative and the executive capital, however, the legislative capital should not be mentioned. Else, Germany, for example, would have to have Karlsruhe as a "capital city", too. And obviously it doesn't have it. --194.114.62.71 (talk) 09:51, 11 March 2011 (UTC)

Growing unemployment, poverty, crime, corruption and decreased standards of living

These edits were reasonably sourced, so instead of just reverting, I'll give my full thoughts here.

Firstly, it's the lede, and all of these issues are adequately covered in more detail in their respective sections. Something has to be a good summary of the state of the country to warrant a spot in the lede. So I want to evaluate each of these references in detail:

  • Unemployment - The reference refers to a quarter-on-quarter increase in the unemployment in May 2009, during a global recession - the first time the economy had entered a recession in 17 years according to the source.
  • Standard of living - The references (one broken) shows the decrease in HDI. This is dealt with in detail in the 20th century history section, and almost entirely attributable to the AIDS epidemic. I think mention of the AIDS epidemic in the lede would be appropriate, it's a major defining issue of the country.
  • Crime - The (broken) reference is 10 years old and deals with the recorded crime increase from the mid 1980s until 2000. A more up to date reference shows that crime levels have been steadily decreasing this decade. .
  • Corruption - Unreferenced
  • Poverty - Unreferenced

--HiltonLange (talk) 05:27, 14 March 2011 (UTC)

Important missing articles

Although I have indicated elsewhere Misplaced Pages:Requested_articles/Business_and_economics#Economics, the backlog for requested articles on other sections of Misplaced Pages is so astronomical that I think it would be better if I address this concern here. We are missing articles on important topics relating to finance and economics in South Africa. I cannot profess expertise in any of these fields and therefore appeal to other contributors to see if they can start the following articles:

Articles pertaining to regional economies:

Also, since employment and job creation is such a perennial topic of discussion in South African politics I thought creating an article Jobs creating during South Africa presidential terms would merit an article of its own. Please go to my talk page if there is anything you would like me to do. --User:DiscipleOfKnowledge (talk) 13:34, 31 March 2011 (UTC)

Edit request from Deane.roger, 14 April 2011

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Under the Science and Technology section, please replace $20 billion with $1.5 billion. Perhaps the mistake came about as it was an estimate in Rands.

Deane.roger (talk) 15:50, 14 April 2011 (UTC)

 DoneBility (talk) 17:26, 14 April 2011 (UTC)

BRICS Membership

Something must be said about South Africa's recent inclusion in BRICS. Done --User:DiscipleOfKnowledge (talk) 13:51, 16 June 2011 (UTC)

I think you should spell BRICS out in full, 'cos nobody probably knows what it means. Meanwhile, I've added BRICS material at foreign and military relations section. Small problem with refs which I can't figure out & would be obliged if someone could fix on my behalf pse. Thanks. Communikat (talk) 22:05, 5 July 2011 (UTC)

Why read only?

How come the article is now 'read only'? Unable to edit. Communikat (talk) 08:44, 16 June 2011 (UTC)

The article is semi-protected to reduce persistent vandalism, but can still be edited - see Misplaced Pages:Protection Policy and Misplaced Pages:Rough guide to semi-protection Greenman (talk) 09:29, 16 June 2011 (UTC)
Nah, problem was that my new username had to exist for at least four days before system allowed access to semi-protect article. Now okay. Except that I can't get refs to come right in BRICS material newly added at foreign and military relations section. Can someone pse fix? Thanks. Communikat (talk) 22:02, 5 July 2011 (UTC)

"copyright violation" undone

Administrator Nick-D, who has never worked on this article, stalked and hounded me here, claiming copyright violation as his "reason" for deleting my recent edits in which I cited reliable UN and SA sources. I have undone his deletions. For his edification, works of the United Nations that are not offered for sale, such as the documents I have cited, are in the public domain. I would further add that works of the South African Government Communications and Information Service, such as the other documents I cited, are inherently in the public domain since they are a source of public information. (See here re "inherently"). Communikat (talk) 02:23, 6 July 2011 (UTC)

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