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| ::I've had a search using google and can't find any news reports of protests or marches involving any 'defence leagues' in Norway, Sweden, France or Germany. Cheers ] (]) 17:19, 12 November 2011 (UTC) | ::I've had a search using google and can't find any news reports of protests or marches involving any 'defence leagues' in Norway, Sweden, France or Germany. Cheers ] (]) 17:19, 12 November 2011 (UTC) | ||
| Scottish Defence League either meets ] requirements or it doesn't. That's the only criteria. A quick look in google suggests that it doesn't pass the test. Other divisions may or may not pass the test but that isn't relevant to whether this one does. <small style="border: 1px solid;padding:1px 4px 1px 3px;white-space:nowrap">''']''' - ''']'''</small> 17: |
Scottish Defence League either meets ] requirements or it doesn't. That's the only criteria. A quick look in google suggests that it doesn't pass the test. Other divisions may or may not pass the test but that isn't relevant to whether this one does. Also, you are both edit warring and 3 reverts isn't an entitlement. <small style="border: 1px solid;padding:1px 4px 1px 3px;white-space:nowrap">''']''' - ''']'''</small> 17:47, 12 November 2011 (UTC) | ||
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I have started writing this article as I felt it was inappropriate for a search for 'Scottish Defence League' to lead to nothing more than a redirect to English Defence League. I therefore object to the proposal for deletion and will remove the tag once I finish this post. Cheers Fishiehelper2 (talk) 15:31, 12 November 2011 (UTC)
- I disagree. Every SDL demonstration has had EDL flags plus mosty EDL members. SDL mostly consists of an EDL base. If we create SDL we will also hae to create NDL (norwegian defence league), DDL (danish defence league), WDL (welsh defence league), FDL (french defence league), GDL (german defence league) etc. I think a redirect to EDL is sufficient. The rticle clearly violates WP:GNG. Pass a Method talk 15:38, 12 November 2011 (UTC)
- Why will we have to create NDL (norwegian defence league), DDL (danish defence league), FDL (french defence league), GDL (german defence league) etc, as you claim? None of these have even been created as redirect articles to English Defence League, and none are mentioned in the article, English Defence League. I completely disagree that the article clearly violates WP:GNG, as you claim. Cheers Fishiehelper2 (talk) 15:51, 12 November 2011 (UTC)
- They are actually mentioned in the international links section. There is also a SDL Sikh defence League. there is also a gay defence league. NDL norwegian defence League. There is also a MDL Muslim defence league. Are we going to create all of these spinofs? I will revert you to aoid this slippery slope. Pass a Method talk 15:59, 12 November 2011 (UTC)
- All your additions should go to the EDL demonstrations article Pass a Method talk 16:04, 12 November 2011 (UTC)
- Sorry, but I don't see any reference to NDL (norwegian defence league), DDL (danish defence league), FDL (french defence league) or GDL (german defence league) anywhere in the English Defence League article. I'll comment further below your further comment. Cheers Fishiehelper2 (talk) 17:06, 12 November 2011 (UTC)
- In the internation section, "The EDL has European ties in the Netherlands, France, Denmark and Sweden, with supporters joining and hosting EDL demonstrators."
- By the way, at least 3 people think this article should be redirected. Pass a Method talk 17:11, 12 November 2011 (UTC)
- Really? Where have they indicated that? Cheers Fishiehelper2 (talk) 17:31, 12 November 2011 (UTC)
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Im getting annoyed now coz Fishiehelper doesn't get it. There are several offshoots of EDL including Sikh division, Gay division, Muslim division, Norwegian division, etx. et. Why does Scotland division get special status with its own article?? To avoid hypocrisy, Fishie should create an article for all the other offshoots too! Im getting annoyed now. Pass a Method talk 16:26, 12 November 2011 (UTC)
- If an offshoot is within the same country, then an article about that country's organisation could easily have a subsection within that article. But are you really saying that if a danish defence league grows and becomes active in Denmark, that there should not be a separate article about that organisation just because it began as an offshoot? If I can find evidence of 'defence leagues' being established in other countries - whether or not they begin live as an offshoot - I would be happy to create articles for them too. If we ended up with several articles, we could create a template to make it easier for readers to see the associated articles. Cheers Fishiehelper2 (talk) 17:12, 12 November 2011 (UTC)
- I've had a search using google and can't find any news reports of protests or marches involving any 'defence leagues' in Norway, Sweden, France or Germany. Cheers Fishiehelper2 (talk) 17:19, 12 November 2011 (UTC)
Scottish Defence League either meets Misplaced Pages:Notability requirements or it doesn't. That's the only criteria. A quick look in google suggests that it doesn't pass the test. Other divisions may or may not pass the test but that isn't relevant to whether this one does. Also, you are both edit warring and 3 reverts isn't an entitlement. Sean.hoyland - talk 17:47, 12 November 2011 (UTC)
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