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| ::::: Speaking of "involved editors" Gatoclass, what are you doing here then??? Your biases are well documented. And for the record, I'm not a DYK "novice." I've had several DYK's listed. I think you should consider excusing yourself from this DYK based on your own self-serving criteria. ] (]) 14:57, 28 November 2011 (UTC) | ::::: Speaking of "involved editors" Gatoclass, what are you doing here then??? Your biases are well documented. And for the record, I'm not a DYK "novice." I've had several DYK's listed. I think you should consider excusing yourself from this DYK based on your own self-serving criteria. ] (]) 14:57, 28 November 2011 (UTC) | ||
| :::::: The rules don't discourage an involved editor from ''commenting'' on a hook, only on ''approving'' it. You can make as many ''criticisms'' of a submission at this page as you like; indeed, we encourage such involvement, because it what helps us maintain quality. And I didn't call you a "novice", BTW. ] (]) 04:21, 30 November 2011 (UTC) | |||
| ::::::If the above hook is controversial (or at least non-neutral), perhaps we can use something like this: | ::::::If the above hook is controversial (or at least non-neutral), perhaps we can use something like this: | ||
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TAT Technologies
( )- ... that TAT Technologies Ltd. was established in 1969 in response to a French arms embargo on Israel?
- Comment: Article created yesterday, 23 November.
- Reviewed: Jesmyn Ward (diff).
Created/expanded by Biosketch (talk). Self nom at 11:24, 24 November 2011 (UTC)
Tautly written and generously sourced new article, created on November 23. Neutrally written, over 1,500 characters long. All sources check out. No copyvio. Good to go. Draco 17:34, 25 November 2011 (UTC)
- Looks good. Made some stylistic changes I think strengthen the article. Think you should consider slightly expanding the hook to something like this: "... that TAT Technologies, an Israeli company listed on the NASDAQ, was established in 1969 in response to France's arms embargo of Israel following the 1967 Six-Day War? Plot Spoiler (talk) 05:48, 28 November 2011 (UTC)
- Plot Spoiler, as you are an involved editor in the IP topic area I am obliged to remind you of rule H2, namely: DYK novices are strongly discouraged from confirming articles that are subject to active arbitration remedies, as are editors active in those areas. Use common sense here, and avoid even the appearance of conflict of interest. A valid DYK nomination will readily be confirmed by a neutral editor.
- With regard to the nom itself, one thing that concerns me about it is the hook. Though I haven't had time to confirm it, I've read that France placed an arms embargo on all countries in the ME at this time, it didn't just single out Israel, in which case I think the proposed hook would be misleading. Gatoclass (talk) 10:54, 28 November 2011 (UTC)
- Speaking of "involved editors" Gatoclass, what are you doing here then??? Your biases are well documented. And for the record, I'm not a DYK "novice." I've had several DYK's listed. I think you should consider excusing yourself from this DYK based on your own self-serving criteria. Plot Spoiler (talk) 14:57, 28 November 2011 (UTC)
- The rules don't discourage an involved editor from commenting on a hook, only on approving it. You can make as many criticisms of a submission at this page as you like; indeed, we encourage such involvement, because it what helps us maintain quality. And I didn't call you a "novice", BTW. Gatoclass (talk) 04:21, 30 November 2011 (UTC)
- If the above hook is controversial (or at least non-neutral), perhaps we can use something like this:
- ... that TAT Technologies Ltd. supplies environmental control systems to the United States Army, Boeing, Lockheed Martin, Cirrus Aircraft, and Embraer?
- The above hook would capture a very interesting part of the subject, namely its international and high-profile clientele.VR talk 04:27, 29 November 2011 (UTC)
- If the above hook is controversial (or at least non-neutral), perhaps we can use something like this: