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The featured article process was rocked this week by two important events: the resignation of longtime FA delegate ], effective no later than 7 February 2012; and a ] (RFC) started by ] to make the positions of featured article director and delegate elected instead of appointed. The featured article process was rocked this week by two events: the resignation of longtime FA delegate ], effective no later than 7 February 2012; and a ] (RFC) started by ] to make the positions of featured article director and delegate elected instead of appointed.


SandyGeorgia, a featured article delegate since 2008, tendered her resignation on 8 January; citing the decreasing quality of medical articles, POV issues in Venezuela-related articles, a push for quantity over quality, and recent issues at ], SandyGeorgia wrote that she would continue to serve "no more than 30 days, or earlier if another delegate is appointed or Raul asks for resignation sooner" and would return to content creation and improvement. In response, several editors expressed shock and dismay, but ultimately acceptance over the resignation. SandyGeorgia, a featured article delegate since 2008 and a prominent reviewer since 2005, ] on 8 January. She cited the decreasing quality of Misplaced Pages's medical articles, POV issues in Venezuela-related articles, a push for quantity over quality, and recent issues at ] as reasons for her resignation. SandyGeorgia wrote that she will continue to serve "no more than 30 days, or earlier if another delegate is appointed or Raul asks for resignation sooner" and will return to content creation and improvement. Editors have expressed shock and dismay, but ultimately acceptance over the resignation.


On the same day, TCO opened an RFC which seeks to implement a yearly election cycle for featured article director and delegates, similar to the systems used to choose the Coordinators for WikiProject Military history and Guild of Copy Editors. Citing concerns over the declining rate of article promotions and a lack of activity by featured article director ], TCO suggests that a new group of seven delegates should be elected in early February, with a director chosen from among them. This proposal received a fair bit of opposition, including 10 oppose votes within three hours and a posting at ]. As of the time of this writing, the RFC is still open. On the same day, TCO opened an RFC that seeks to implement a yearly election cycle for featured article director and delegates, similar to the systems used to choose the Coordinators for WikiProject Military history and Guild of Copy Editors. Citing concerns over the declining rate of article promotions and a lack of activity by featured article director ], TCO suggests that a new group of seven delegates should be elected in early February, with a director chosen from among them. This proposal received significant opposition, including 10 oppose votes within three hours and a posting at ]. As of the time of writing, the RFC is still open.


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Eight featured articles were promoted this week. Eight featured articles were promoted this week.
*] (]) by ]. Lamb, born in Windsor, Ontario, Canada, on 5 January 1948, was arrested in June 1966 for the murder of two and wounding of another two. Found legally insane by the court, Lamb was sentenced to indefinite interment at a mental hospital but released in 1973. Later that year he joined the Rhodesian Security Forces. He died from friendly fire on 7 November 1976 and was given a "hero's funeral" in Salisbury, with his ashes being returned to Windsor. *] (]) by ]. Lamb, born in Windsor, Ontario, Canada, on 5 January 1948, was arrested in June 1966 for the murder of two people and the wounding of another two. Found legally insane by the court, Lamb was sentenced to indefinite interment at a mental hospital but was released in 1973. Later that year he joined the Rhodesian Security Forces. He died from friendly fire on 7 November 1976 and was given a "hero's funeral" in Salisbury, with his ashes returned to Windsor.
*] (]) by ]. In the succinct words of the nominator, "A gay typhoon blew saltwater to turn plants brown, curiously ignoring gymnosperms". The ''Signpost'' notes that there have been four Gay blows, with the new featured article the most recent. *] (]) by ]. In the succinct words of the nominator, "A gay typhoon blew saltwater to turn plants brown, curiously ignoring gymnosperms". The ''Signpost'' notes that there have been four Gay blows, with the new featured article the most recent.
*] (]) by ]. Nicky Barr ''(right)'' was born on 10 December 1915 in Wellington, New Zealand, but moved to Australia in 1921. In 1939 he joined the Wallabies, the Australian national rugby team. However, after failing to play against the United Kingdom due to the outbreak of World War II, on 4 March 1940 he joined the Australian air force. As a pilot, he was posted to North Africa with No. 3 Squadron, eventually taking lead in May 1942; shortly afterwards, he was shot down and brought to Italy. Escaping, he was repatriated to England and helped with the invasion of Normandy. He died on 12 June 2006. *] (]) by ]. Nicky Barr ''(right)'' was born on 10 December 1915 in Wellington, New Zealand, but moved to Australia in 1921. In 1939 he joined the Wallabies, the Australian national rugby team. However, after failing to play against the United Kingdom due to the outbreak of World War II, on 4 March 1940 he joined the Australian air force. As a pilot, he was posted to North Africa with No. 3 Squadron, eventually taking lead in May 1942; shortly afterwards, he was shot down and brought to Italy. He escaped, was repatriated to England, and helped with the invasion of Normandy. He died on 12 June 2006.
*] (]) by ]. Titchwell Marsh ''(portion at right''), in Norfolk, England, between the villages of Titchwell and Thornham, is a nature reserve owned and managed by the Royal Society for the Protection of Birds. Covering 171 hectares (423 acres), the marsh includes reed beds, salt marshes, a freshwater lagoon and a sandy beach, and is an important breeding site for some scare birds. Artefacts found in the marsh date back to the Upper Paleolithic, and there are some abandoned military constructions scattered throughout it. *] (]) by ]. Titchwell Marsh ''(portion at right)'', in Norfolk, England, between the villages of Titchwell and Thornham, is a nature reserve owned and managed by the Royal Society for the Protection of Birds. Covering 171 hectares (423 acres), the marsh includes reed beds, salt marshes, a freshwater lagoon and a sandy beach, and is an important breeding site for some scare birds. Artefacts found in the marsh date back to the Upper Paleolithic, and there are some abandoned military constructions scattered throughout it.
*] (]) by ]. The ''Tirpitz'' ''(below)'' was the second of two ''Bismarck''-class battleships built by the German navy during World War II. It was laid in November 1936 and completed in February 1941. Immediately commissioned, the ''Tirpitz'' initially served as the centrepiece of the Baltic Fleet, later to be sent to Norway to serve as a ]. The ship used its guns in anger the first time in September 1943, bombarding allied positions at Spitzbergen. After attacks by mini submarines and several air raids, the ''Tirpitz'' was sunk on 12 November 1944. *] (]) by ]. The ''Tirpitz'' ''(below)'' was the second of two ''Bismarck''-class battleships built by the German navy during World War II. It was laid in November 1936 and completed in February 1941. Immediately commissioned, the ''Tirpitz'' initially served as the centrepiece of the Baltic Fleet, later to be sent to Norway to serve as a ]. The ship used its guns in anger the first time in September 1943, bombarding allied positions at Spitzbergen. After attacks by mini submarines and several air raids, the ''Tirpitz'' was sunk on 12 November 1944.
*] (]) by ]. The HMS ''New Zealand'' was launched in 1911 and given to Britain as a gift by the government of New Zealand. One of three ''Indefatigable''-class battlecruisers, the ship was commissioned in 1912 and spent 10 months on a tour of the British Dominions. Back in British waters by the start of World War I, the ''New Zealand'' went on to participate in all three of the major North Sea battles of World War I and received no casualties. After the end of the war and another world tour, the ship was scrapped in 1922. *] (]) by ]. The HMS ''New Zealand'' was launched in 1911 and given to Britain as a gift by the government of New Zealand. One of three ''Indefatigable''-class battlecruisers, the ship was commissioned in 1912 and spent 10 months on a tour of the British Dominions. Back in British waters by the start of World War I, the ''New Zealand'' went on to participate in all three of the major North Sea battles of World War I and received no casualties. After the end of the war and another world tour, the ship was scrapped in 1922.
*] (]) by ]. The Boeing 767 ''(example at right)'' is a mid-size, wide-body twin-engine jet airliner built by Boeing Commercial Airplanes. The plane, with a range of 3,850 to 6,385 nautical miles (7,130 to 11,825 km) and a capacity of 181 to 375 persons depending on variant, had its maiden flight in in 1981 and was first flown commercially on 8 September 1982. By the 1990s, it had become the most frequently used airliner for transatlantic flights between North America and Europe. As of July 2011, there are 837 Boeing 767s in service; the 767-300ER is the most popular variant. *] (]) by ]. The Boeing 767 ''(example at right)'' is a mid-size, wide-body twin-engine jet airliner built by Boeing Commercial Airplanes. The plane, with a range of 3,850–6,385 nautical miles (7,130–11,825 km) and a capacity of 181–375 persons depending on variant, had its maiden flight in in 1981 and was first flown commercially on 8 September 1982. By the 1990s it had become the most frequently used airliner for transatlantic flights between North America and Europe. As of July 2011, there are 837 Boeing 767s in service; the 767-300ER is the most popular variant.
*'']'' (]) by ], ], ], and ]. The album ''Blonde on Blonde'', singer-songwriter Bob Dylan's seventh, was released in May or June 1966 after over half a year of production. The last release in a trilogy of rock albums, ''Blonde on Blonde''{{'s}} songs have been described as operating on a grand scale musically, with the lyrics once called "a unique blend of the visionary and the colloquial." One of the first double albums in rock history, it peaked at No. 9 on the Billboard 200 chart in the USA, while in the UK it reached No. 3; two of its songs were selected by ''Rolling Stone'' for their list of the 500 Greatest Songs of All Time. *'']'' (]) by ], ], ], and ]. The album ''Blonde on Blonde'', singer-songwriter Bob Dylan's seventh, was released in May or June 1966 after more than six months of production. The last release in a trilogy of rock albums, ''Blonde on Blonde''{{'s}} songs have been described as operating on a grand scale musically, with the lyrics once called "a unique blend of the visionary and the colloquial." One of the first double albums in rock history, it peaked at No. 9 on the Billboard 200 chart in the US, while in the UK it reached No. 3; two of its songs were selected by ''Rolling Stone'' for their list of the 500 Greatest Songs of All Time.


===Featured lists=== ===Featured lists===
Four featured lists were promoted this week: Four featured lists were promoted this week:
*] (]) by ]. Thirteen players have represented the Afghanistan national cricket team in eight Twenty20 International (T20I) matches (defined as matches between two teams with T20I certification) since their certification in 2010. The Afghan team has played in 8 T20I matches; eight players have played in all eight matches. Noor Ali is the leading run-scorer with 199 runs. *] (]) by ]. Thirteen players have represented the Afghanistan national cricket team in eight Twenty20 International (T20I) matches (matches between two teams with T20I certification) since their certification in 2010. The Afghan team has played in 8 T20I matches; eight players have played in all eight matches. Noor Ali is the leading run-scorer with 199 runs.
*] (]) by ]. The Grammy Award for Best Country Collaboration with Vocals, historically also known as the Best Country Vocal Performance, Duet, and Best Country Vocal Collaboration, was a Grammy Award for two or more country singers who collaborated on a song. In 2011 it was merged with two other categories to "tighten the number of categories" at the awards. Alison Krauss, with five wins, holds the most awards in this category; seven others have two. The most nominated are Emmylou Harris and Willie Nelson, with 9 nominations apiece. *] (]) by ]. The Grammy Award for Best Country Collaboration with Vocal—historically also known as the Best Country Vocal Performance, Duet, and Best Country Vocal Collaboration—was a Grammy Award for two or more country singers who collaborated on a song. In 2011 it was merged with two other categories to "tighten the number of categories" at the awards. Alison Krauss, with five wins, holds the most awards in this category; seven others have two. The most nominated are Emmylou Harris and Willie Nelson, with nine nominations apiece.
*] (]) by ]. The independent Anglo-Saxon kingdom of East Anglia, consisting of what is now the English counties of Norfolk and Suffolk (and perhaps the eastern part of the Fens), was ruled by up to 32 kings over its approximately 400 years of existence. The original rulers were members of the Wuffingas dynasty, while later rulers were either overlords of the conquering Mercians, of unknown descent, or of Danish descent. *] (]) by ]. The independent Anglo-Saxon kingdom of East Anglia, consisting of what is now the English counties of Norfolk and Suffolk (and perhaps the eastern part of the Fens), was ruled by up to 32 kings over its approximately 400 years of existence. The original rulers were members of the Wuffingas dynasty, while later rulers were either overlords of the conquering Mercians, of unknown descent, or of Danish descent.
*] (]) by ]. At the 1964 Winter Olympic Games in Innsbruck, Austria, 1,095 athletes representing 36 National Olympic Committees competed in 34 events across 10 disciplines. The most successful country in total number of medals was the USSR, with 25 medals (11 of them gold), followed by Norway in second and Austria in third. Two competitors, British luge competitor Kazimierz Kay-Skrzypeski and the Australian alpine skiier Ross Milne, died in training. *] (]) by ]. At the 1964 Winter Olympic Games in Innsbruck, Austria, 1,095 athletes representing 36 National Olympic Committees competed in 34 events across 10 disciplines. The most successful country in total number of medals was the USSR, with 25 medals (11 of them gold), followed by Norway in second position and Austria in third. Two competitors, British luge competitor Kazimierz Kay-Skrzypeski and the Australian alpine skiier Ross Milne, died in training.


===Featured pictures=== ===Featured pictures===
Three featured pictures were promoted this week. Three featured pictures were promoted this week.
*] (]; ]) by ]. The new featured picture ''(right)'' depicts Indian poltician Salman Khurshid, Cabinet Minister of the Ministry of Law and Justice and Ministry of Minority Affairs of India. Khurshid (born 1953), began his career in politics as an Officer on Special Duty under Indira Gandhi. The new featured picture was shot when the minister was to have a photoshoot with other VIPs. *] (]; ]) by ]. The new featured picture ''(right)'' depicts Indian politician Salman Khurshid, cabinet minister of the Ministry of Law and Justice and Ministry of Minority Affairs of India. Khurshid (born 1953), began his career in politics as an officer on special duty under Indira Gandhi. The new featured picture was shot when the minister was to have a photoshoot with other VIPs.
*] (]; ]) by ]. The new featured picture ''(top)'', used in both Sunset and ], depicts a sunset over Porto Covo in Portugal. Sunsets, where the sun disappears over the horizon, are generally more colourful than than sunrise because the evening air contains more particles to refract the sunlight than morning air. In most areas, the earliest sunsets are after the winter solstice, while the latest are after the summer solstice. *] (]; ]) by ]. The new featured picture ''(top)'', used in both Sunset and ], depicts a sunset over Porto Covo in Portugal. Sunsets are generally more colourful than than sunrise because evening air contains more particles to refract the sunlight than morning air. In most places, the earliest sunsets are after the winter solstice and the latest after the summer solstice.
*] (]; ]) by ]. The Great Crested Grebe ''(right)'', a 46–51 centimetre (18–20 in) long bird spread throughout the old world and Oceania, breeds in vegetated areas of freshwater lakes. It feeds on fish, crustaceans, insects, and frogs, and is classified as least concern. *] (]; ]) by ]. The Great Crested Grebe ''(right)'', a bird 46–51 centimetres (18–20 in) long, found throughout the old world and Oceania, breeds in vegetated areas of freshwater lakes. It feeds on fish, crustaceans, insects, and frogs, and is classified as least concern.
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The featured article process was rocked this week by two events: the resignation of longtime FA delegate SandyGeorgia, effective no later than 7 February 2012; and a request for comment (RFC) started by TCO to make the positions of featured article director and delegate elected instead of appointed.

SandyGeorgia, a featured article delegate since 2008 and a prominent reviewer since 2005, tendered her resignation on 8 January. She cited the decreasing quality of Misplaced Pages's medical articles, POV issues in Venezuela-related articles, a push for quantity over quality, and recent issues at Misplaced Pages talk:Featured article candidates as reasons for her resignation. SandyGeorgia wrote that she will continue to serve "no more than 30 days, or earlier if another delegate is appointed or Raul asks for resignation sooner" and will return to content creation and improvement. Editors have expressed shock and dismay, but ultimately acceptance over the resignation.

On the same day, TCO opened an RFC that seeks to implement a yearly election cycle for featured article director and delegates, similar to the systems used to choose the Coordinators for WikiProject Military history and Guild of Copy Editors. Citing concerns over the declining rate of article promotions and a lack of activity by featured article director Raul654, TCO suggests that a new group of seven delegates should be elected in early February, with a director chosen from among them. This proposal received significant opposition, including 10 oppose votes within three hours and a posting at ANI. As of the time of writing, the RFC is still open.

Featured articles

Nicky Barr, an Australian rugby player, airman, and subject of a new featured article
A Boeing 767; the model is the subject of a new featured article.
Part of Titchwell Marsh, the subject of a new featured article
A new featured picture of Salman Khurshid, Cabinet Minister of the Ministry of Law and Justice and Ministry of Minority Affairs of India
A new featured picture of a Great Crested Grebe

Eight featured articles were promoted this week.

  • Mathew Charles Lamb (nom) by Cliftonian. Lamb, born in Windsor, Ontario, Canada, on 5 January 1948, was arrested in June 1966 for the murder of two people and the wounding of another two. Found legally insane by the court, Lamb was sentenced to indefinite interment at a mental hospital but was released in 1973. Later that year he joined the Rhodesian Security Forces. He died from friendly fire on 7 November 1976 and was given a "hero's funeral" in Salisbury, with his ashes returned to Windsor.
  • Typhoon Gay (1992) (nom) by Hurricanehink. In the succinct words of the nominator, "A gay typhoon blew saltwater to turn plants brown, curiously ignoring gymnosperms". The Signpost notes that there have been four Gay blows, with the new featured article the most recent.
  • Nicky Barr (nom) by Ian Rose. Nicky Barr (right) was born on 10 December 1915 in Wellington, New Zealand, but moved to Australia in 1921. In 1939 he joined the Wallabies, the Australian national rugby team. However, after failing to play against the United Kingdom due to the outbreak of World War II, on 4 March 1940 he joined the Australian air force. As a pilot, he was posted to North Africa with No. 3 Squadron, eventually taking lead in May 1942; shortly afterwards, he was shot down and brought to Italy. He escaped, was repatriated to England, and helped with the invasion of Normandy. He died on 12 June 2006.
  • Titchwell Marsh (nom) by Jimfbleak. Titchwell Marsh (portion at right), in Norfolk, England, between the villages of Titchwell and Thornham, is a nature reserve owned and managed by the Royal Society for the Protection of Birds. Covering 171 hectares (423 acres), the marsh includes reed beds, salt marshes, a freshwater lagoon and a sandy beach, and is an important breeding site for some scare birds. Artefacts found in the marsh date back to the Upper Paleolithic, and there are some abandoned military constructions scattered throughout it.
  • German battleship Tirpitz (nom) by Parsecboy. The Tirpitz (below) was the second of two Bismarck-class battleships built by the German navy during World War II. It was laid in November 1936 and completed in February 1941. Immediately commissioned, the Tirpitz initially served as the centrepiece of the Baltic Fleet, later to be sent to Norway to serve as a fleet in being. The ship used its guns in anger the first time in September 1943, bombarding allied positions at Spitzbergen. After attacks by mini submarines and several air raids, the Tirpitz was sunk on 12 November 1944.
  • HMS New Zealand (1911) (nom) by Sturmvogel 66. The HMS New Zealand was launched in 1911 and given to Britain as a gift by the government of New Zealand. One of three Indefatigable-class battlecruisers, the ship was commissioned in 1912 and spent 10 months on a tour of the British Dominions. Back in British waters by the start of World War I, the New Zealand went on to participate in all three of the major North Sea battles of World War I and received no casualties. After the end of the war and another world tour, the ship was scrapped in 1922.
  • Boeing 767 (nom) by SynergyStar. The Boeing 767 (example at right) is a mid-size, wide-body twin-engine jet airliner built by Boeing Commercial Airplanes. The plane, with a range of 3,850–6,385 nautical miles (7,130–11,825 km) and a capacity of 181–375 persons depending on variant, had its maiden flight in in 1981 and was first flown commercially on 8 September 1982. By the 1990s it had become the most frequently used airliner for transatlantic flights between North America and Europe. As of July 2011, there are 837 Boeing 767s in service; the 767-300ER is the most popular variant.
  • Blonde on Blonde (nom) by Mick gold, I.M.S., Allreet, and Moisejp. The album Blonde on Blonde, singer-songwriter Bob Dylan's seventh, was released in May or June 1966 after more than six months of production. The last release in a trilogy of rock albums, Blonde on Blonde's songs have been described as operating on a grand scale musically, with the lyrics once called "a unique blend of the visionary and the colloquial." One of the first double albums in rock history, it peaked at No. 9 on the Billboard 200 chart in the US, while in the UK it reached No. 3; two of its songs were selected by Rolling Stone for their list of the 500 Greatest Songs of All Time.

Featured lists

Four featured lists were promoted this week:

  • List of Afghanistan T20I cricketers (nom) by Vibhijain. Thirteen players have represented the Afghanistan national cricket team in eight Twenty20 International (T20I) matches (matches between two teams with T20I certification) since their certification in 2010. The Afghan team has played in 8 T20I matches; eight players have played in all eight matches. Noor Ali is the leading run-scorer with 199 runs.
  • Grammy Award for Best Country Collaboration with Vocals (nom) by Albacore. The Grammy Award for Best Country Collaboration with Vocal—historically also known as the Best Country Vocal Performance, Duet, and Best Country Vocal Collaboration—was a Grammy Award for two or more country singers who collaborated on a song. In 2011 it was merged with two other categories to "tighten the number of categories" at the awards. Alison Krauss, with five wins, holds the most awards in this category; seven others have two. The most nominated are Emmylou Harris and Willie Nelson, with nine nominations apiece.
  • List of monarchs of East Anglia (nom) by Amitchell125. The independent Anglo-Saxon kingdom of East Anglia, consisting of what is now the English counties of Norfolk and Suffolk (and perhaps the eastern part of the Fens), was ruled by up to 32 kings over its approximately 400 years of existence. The original rulers were members of the Wuffingas dynasty, while later rulers were either overlords of the conquering Mercians, of unknown descent, or of Danish descent.
  • List of 1964 Winter Olympics medal winners (nom) by Courcelles. At the 1964 Winter Olympic Games in Innsbruck, Austria, 1,095 athletes representing 36 National Olympic Committees competed in 34 events across 10 disciplines. The most successful country in total number of medals was the USSR, with 25 medals (11 of them gold), followed by Norway in second position and Austria in third. Two competitors, British luge competitor Kazimierz Kay-Skrzypeski and the Australian alpine skiier Ross Milne, died in training.

Featured pictures

Three featured pictures were promoted this week.

  • Salman Khurshid (nom; related article) by Muhammad Mahdi Karim. The new featured picture (right) depicts Indian politician Salman Khurshid, cabinet minister of the Ministry of Law and Justice and Ministry of Minority Affairs of India. Khurshid (born 1953), began his career in politics as an officer on special duty under Indira Gandhi. The new featured picture was shot when the minister was to have a photoshoot with other VIPs.
  • Sunset at Porto Covo (nom; related article) by Alvesgaspar. The new featured picture (top), used in both Sunset and Sunset (color), depicts a sunset over Porto Covo in Portugal. Sunsets are generally more colourful than than sunrise because evening air contains more particles to refract the sunlight than morning air. In most places, the earliest sunsets are after the winter solstice and the latest after the summer solstice.
  • Great Crested Grebe at Lake Dulverton (nom; Related article) by JJ Harrison. The Great Crested Grebe (right), a bird 46–51 centimetres (18–20 in) long, found throughout the old world and Oceania, breeds in vegetated areas of freshwater lakes. It feeds on fish, crustaceans, insects, and frogs, and is classified as least concern.
A recognition drawing of the German battleship Tirpitz, the subject of a new featured article
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    • Maybe mention the announcement of Karanac's resignation?--Wehwalt (talk) 13:30, 9 January 2012 (UTC)
    • You're going to catch some flak for "respected and neutral editor". What's important is whether people are happy with him as a facilitator for this process at this time, not how great a guy he is. But I don't really want to change the wording to imply that he's temporary, because he's a really good choice IMO ... so I don't have a suggestion for rewording. - Dank (push to talk) 17:24, 9 January 2012 (UTC)
    I would say let it go.--Wehwalt (talk) 17:28, 9 January 2012 (UTC)
    NB: Mike Christie; I also prefer a talk discussion to a formal vote. This is why I sought someone such as User:Moonriddengirl. Mike's long involved. Alarbus (talk) 17:38, 9 January 2012 (UTC)
    I think there's broad agreement he open the RfC, anyway. Especially after TCO crashed and burned on his (sorry TCO).--Wehwalt (talk) 17:40, 9 January 2012 (UTC)
    I know that's how it's going to go... Seen this:
    • I also know of some fine editors who have abandoned the FA process because of its perceived quirky and arbitrary nature. So, not voting for the sake of it, but voting for the sake of the perceived integrity of the project. —Malleus 20:30, 28 November 2007 (UTC)
    Alarbus (talk) 17:45, 9 January 2012 (UTC)

    Fixin' needed

    Ok, there are several problems in what's up so far.

    1. The discussions at FAC did not start over, and are not mostly about directorship, succession, and leadership-- they started with the TCO and Ettrig position that only articles with high page views should be eligible to be Featured articles, and from there, the "Wehwalt for FA director" campaign emerged. Unrelated issues are being conflated here.

    2. Karanacs resigned in early December, but Raul held off accepting her resignation, possibly hoping that her situation might change, knowing that Ucucha and I could handle the workload. More conflating of unrelated events-- Karanacs resigned well before any of this, although TCO may have been a factor-- see the statement on her talk page. Further, these are not Raul's words: "Raul received an email from her in December with an offer to resignation due to inactivity, but held it in the hope she would be able to return." He made a statement on FAC talk; to write this accurately, use it please.

    3. My resignation is also being conflated incorrectly with other issues (I made a statement, pls read it). I had intended to resign also in January, then had to stay on because of Karanacs' resignation, and then realized it would be unfair to the FA community for me to let the RFC run to endorse Raul's leadership, only to announce afterwards that I was resigning. So, I felt it responsible to resign now, but offered to stay on for 30 days so there won't be a workload crunch.

    Now, those are diffable facts, yet the current version of this piece is leaving the impression that two delegates resigned because of a leadership crisis. Not the case, and the issues that are most affecting the FAC talk page are not about succession, but equally about the (proposed) notion that only high page view articles should be FAs and changes are needed to that effect. Two RFCs (one SNOW) this week have failed to endorse leadership concerns with Raul (not mentioned here?)-- a third is in planning stages. Please, let's get the facts right so that we don't create a biased and faulty impression of what's happening at FAC, which could then bias the pending RFC. SandyGeorgia (Talk) 01:40, 10 January 2012 (UTC)

    Sandy, I'll try to fix it now, but I ask you you come in after my edit, and check and further edit. Text that looks contentious is probably best omitted. Tony (talk) 01:44, 10 January 2012 (UTC)
    Thanks, Tony1-- I don't believe I should be editing this any more than I believe the object of the "Wehwalt for FA director" campaign should, so I'll add comments here, or inlines, whichever you prefer. Deadline? SandyGeorgia (Talk) 01:46, 10 January 2012 (UTC)
    • I'd like to commend The ed17 for the changes made from this draft version with the sun setting on Sandy - she is, after all, not dead and has stated plans to concentrate on medical articles and will still contribute to the FA project. Sandy notes several deficiencies in the current version and I'm sure it can be improved, but I do believe it is worth noting that it has already improved from a version that was much worse than the existing one. EdChem (talk) 12:03, 10 January 2012 (UTC)
    • Okay, yes, it was not the best write-up in the world. There was no intention to make her "seem dead"; it may be ENGVAR, but as far as I see it having the sun set on a career or something doesn't mean the person died. Crisco 1492 (talk) 13:11, 10 January 2012 (UTC)
    • Sorry, Crisco, I didn't seek to offend you and I didn't mean to impute an intention to you. The death overtone was my genuine first impression when I saw the draft, which I accept may well be a reflection of my psychology and might be an impression that others did not form. I noticed that Tony1 liked the choice of imagery, so I know that views will vary. We all have bad days and can benefit from another editor working on our drafts at times, and I only sought to acknowledge The ed17's contribution in redrafting. EdChem (talk) 14:53, 10 January 2012 (UTC)
    • No hard feelings, I've seen worse responses to that draft. I'll try and steer clear of controversial topics for the next issue. As for Ed's copy... much better indeed (as I've said on his talk page). Crisco 1492 (talk) 15:06, 10 January 2012 (UTC)
    I still think this should have been a separate discussion report, but, meh. The talk page has been blocked off in the usual "cleaning the air" bullshit. ResMar 22:29, 10 January 2012 (UTC)

    Oh ffs, the US is NOT the default

    Yet again, Misplaced Pages shows its US bias. If the FAC people are doing it, what hope is there for the project as a whole? Of the topics above, all those that are related to a particular area or region have that country/region named in the blurbs on this page, apart from the American ones. No need to say that Boeing is a US company, Bob Dylan is American or the Grammys are American awards, is there? Because we all know that, right? And if we don't we of course will assume it because the US is the default, won't we? The US is not the default setting in Misplaced Pages. If Misplaced Pages wants to be taken seriosuly as an international project, it HAS to start adding US nationality or country information to its articles on US subjects.

    Nationality given:

    • Mathew Charles Lamb (Canadian)
    • Typhoon Gay (1992) (Marshall Islands/Japan)
    • Nicky Barr (New Zealand)
    • Titchwell Marsh (Norfolk, England)
    • German battleship Tirpitz
    • HMS New Zealand (1911) (Britain and New Zealand)
    • List of Afghanistan T20I cricketers
    • List of monarchs of East Anglia (England)
    • List of 1964 Winter Olympics medal winners (Austria)

    Not given because, hey, it's not necessary because it's American

    • Boeing 767 (nom)
    • Blonde on Blonde
    • Grammy Award for Best Country Collaboration with Vocals

    That's 100% we have to give nationalities for non-US topics, and we 100% don't have to for US ones. This isn't the first time I've raised this problem on this page: apparently no-one thinks it's important enough to act on. Of course Americans won't see anything wrong with the status quo: the rest of the Anglophone world does though. 86.134.117.17 (talk) 08:41, 11 January 2012 (UTC)

    I'm not sure it's this hard and fast. Boeing is a transnational company. Grammy Awards are so well-known everywhere, it hardly seems necessary to clutter with (US). Tony (talk) 12:10, 11 January 2012 (UTC)
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