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The Right Stuff: October 2011

By Lionelt

The Right Stuff caught up with Dank, the recently elected Lead Coordinator of WikiProject Military History. MILHIST is considered by many to be one of the most successful projects in the English Misplaced Pages.

Q: Tell us a little about yourself.
A: I'm Dan, a Wikipedian since 2007, from North Carolina. I started out with an interest in history, robotics, style guidelines, and copyediting. These days, I'm the lead coordinator for the Military History Project and a reviewer of Featured Article Candidates. I've been an administrator and maintained WP:Update, a summary of policy changes, since 2008.

Q: What is your experience with WikiProjects?
A: I guess I'm most familiar with WP:MILHIST and WP:SHIPS, and I'm trying to get up to speed at WP:AVIATION. I've probably talked with members of most of the wikiprojects at one time or another.

Q: What makes a WikiProject successful?
A: A lot of occasional contributors who think of the project as fun rather than work, a fair number of people willing to write or review articles, a small core of like-minded people who are dedicated to building and maintaining the project, and access to at least a few people who are familiar with reviewing standards and with Misplaced Pages policies and guidelines.

Q: Do you have any tips for increasing membership?
A: Aim for a consistent, helpful and professional image. Let people know what the project is doing and what they could be doing, but don't push.

If you've got a core group interested in building a wikiproject, it helps if they do more listening than talking at first ... find out what people are trying to do, and offer them help with whatever it is. Some wikiprojects build membership by helping people get articles through the review processes.

By Lionelt

The arbitration request submitted by Steven Zhang moved into its second month. The case, which evaluates user conduct, arose from contentious discussions regarding the naming of the Pro-life and Pro-choice articles, and a related issue pertaining to the inclusion of "death" in the lede of Abortion. A number of members are involved. On the Evidence page ArtifexMahem posted a table indicating that DMSBel made the most edits to the Abortion article. DMSBel has announced their semi-retirement. Fact finding regarding individual editor behavior has begun in earnest on theWorkshop page.

Last month it was decided that due to the success of the new Dispute Resolution Noticeboard the Content Noticeboard would be shut down. Wikiquette Assistance will remain active. The DRN is primarily intended to resolve content disputes.

By Lionelt

Was your article deleted in spite of your best efforts to save it? You should consider having a copy restored to the Incubator where project members can help improve it. Upon meeting content criteria, articles are graduated to mainspace. The Incubator is also ideal for collaborating on new article drafts. Star Parker is the first addition to the incubator. The article was deleted per WP:POLITICIAN.

WikiProject Conservatism is expanding. We now have a satellite on Commons. Any help in categorizing images or in getting the fledgling project off the ground is appreciated.

We have a few new members who joined the project in September. Please give a hearty welcome to Conservative Philosopher, Screwball23 and Regushee by showing them some Wikilove. Screwball23 has been on WikiPedia for five years and has made major improvements to Linda McMahon. Regushee is not one for idle chit chat: an amazing 93% of their edits are in article space.

The Right Stuff: November 2011

By Lionelt

On October 7, WikiProject Conservatism was nominated for deletion by member Binksternet. He based his rationale on what he described as an undefinable scope, stating that the project is "at its root undesirable". Of the 40 participants in the discussion, some agreed that the scope was problematic; however, they felt it did not justify deletion of the project. A number of participants suggested moving the project to "WikiProject American conservatism". The overwhelming sentiment was expressed by Guerillero who wrote: "A project is a group of people. This particular group does great work in their topic area why prevent them from doing this" In the end there was negligible opposition to the project and the result of the discussion was "Keep". The proceedings of the deletion discussion were picked up by The Signpost, calling the unfolding drama "the first MfD of its kind". The Signpost observed that attempting to delete an active project was unprecedented. The story itself became a source of controversy which played out at the Discuss This Story section, and also at the author's talk page.

Two days after the project was nominated, the Conservatism Portal was also nominated for deletion as "too US-biased". There was no support for deletion amongst the 10 participants, with one suggestion to rename the portal.

In other news, a new portal focusing on conservatism has been created at WikiSource. Wikisource is an online library of free content publications with 254,051 accessible texts. One highlight of the portal's content is Reflections on the Revolution in France by Edmund Burke.

October saw a 6.4% increase in new members, bringing the total membership to 58. Seven of the eight new members joined after October 12; the deletion discussions may have played a role in the membership spike. Mwhite148 is a member of the UK Conservative Party. Stating that he is not a conservative, Kleinzach noted his "lifetime interest in British, European and international politics." Let's all make an effort to welcome the new members with an outpouring of Wikilove.

Click here to keep up to date on all the happenings at WikiProject Conservatism.

By Lionelt

Timeline of conservatism, a Top-importance list, was nominated for deletion on October 3. The nominator stated that since conservatism in an "ambiguous concept", the timeline suffers from original research. There were a number of "Delete", as well as "Keep" votes. The closing administrator reasoned that consensus dictated that the list be renamed. The current title is Timeline of modern American conservatism.

I'd like your opinion on a discussion

Hey. I find this discussion on my talk page to be convincing in favour of considering a particular article to be notable. I'd like to know your opinion on the reasoning, policy and evidence. Fifelfoo (talk) 03:36, 1 December 2011 (UTC)

Magi: Lost Kings or Aliens w/ GPS

Peace is a state of balance and understanding in yourself and between others, where respect is gained by the acceptance of differences, tolerance persists, conflicts are resolved through dialog, peoples rights are respected and their voices are heard, and everyone is at their highest point of serenity without social tension.

Happy Holidays..--Buster Seven Talk 25 December 2011 (UTC)

Thanks

Though I'm not sure this is the correct page? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Atmamatma (talk • contribs) 04:18, 26 December 2011 (UTC)

DRN Notification

Hello. This message is being sent to inform you that there is currently a discussion at Misplaced Pages:Dispute resolution noticeboard regarding an issue with which you may have been involved. The thread is "Progressivism: 2.6 United States: List of progressive Congress members". Thank you. --216.114.194.20 (talk) 06:41, 29 December 2011 (UTC)

Sorry about the tension that has been building on the East Germany article,

TFD, I want you to know that even though I disagree with you and you disagree with me on the issue at East Germany and am frustrated with some of your arguments as you appear to be of mine, my frustration is with AndyTheGrump and not particularly with you - I have worked with you cooperatively before on many topics regardless of us being in agreement or disagreement and I admire your contributions to Misplaced Pages with the highest regard.--R-41 (talk) 02:15, 14 January 2012 (UTC)

Thanks for the Welcome.

I would like to personally thank you for your warm welcome, I will be focussing on getting the Nationalistic articles up-to-dates, I am in contact with many prominent figures in British Nationalism, I aim to create a article about Britain First, then expand from there. ] (talk) 13:03, 20 January 2012 (UTC)]

A beer for you!

Enjoy ;) Zultra2 (talk) 17:58, 20 January 2012 (UTC)

Review

Could you potentially review this article please,

http://en.wikipedia.org/Wikipedia_talk:Articles_for_creation/Britain_First

Regards.] (talk) 01:04, 21 January 2012 (UTC)]

The reason why I am making that article is because I want to add to Misplaced Pages, and my 'field of expertise' is in Nationalist Politics/Socio-sphere ] (talk) 14:15, 21 January 2012 (UTC)]

TFD, you are taking a very aggressive tone with me

Yes, I made a mistake about East Germany's economy, it was a reasonable mistake considering that East Germany was split from the industrial Rhineland to be assumed to be poorer and dependent on the USSR. But why have you gone to the extreme of saying that it questions my entire credibility on everything related to the article and that I should reconsider even editing the article at all? That is a very extreme statement and a very unwelcoming statement.--R-41 (talk) 05:36, 23 January 2012 (UTC)

It shows a major misunderstanding of the GDR, particularly because it is crucial to the economic relationship with the USSR, and you should read about the subject before continuing editing. TFD (talk) 05:39, 23 January 2012 (UTC)

fyi

this is cause for concern. I'm pretty sure you would want to know when a user incites a minion to do his bidding in a disagreement with you; and also when the minion in turn incites the other to drag you to e.g. WQA (not to mention the additional provocation to do the same thing with another user). Writegeist (talk) 18:02, 23 January 2012 (UTC) Et seq. Writegeist (talk) 20:40, 23 January 2012 (UTC)

What's cause for concern is this misleading post, Writegeist. Don't you think you are being unfair and blowing this out of proportion? If you are gonna talk about users such as User:Collect and User:R-41 behind their backs then what does this say about you? Caden 20:56, 23 January 2012 (UTC)