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Liswerry or Lliswerry?

Could knowledgeable editors please clarify the name for me. The OS map shows Liswerry, but there's a Lliswerry school and leisure centre. Searching the Council's website, I get numerous hits for both forms of the name. Was there ever a formal decision to change the spelling? Pondle (talk) 19:11, 16 October 2009 (UTC)

Studing the 4 place name books I have it claries the name as Liswerry. This is also show on O/S maps. It is the official name of the Ward as registerd with the Electoral Commission. I therefore believe the name should be Liswerry. With regard to Lliswerry School - the school has a "right" to spell its name however it wishes as technically it is a brand name. The Welsh version of the name (which the English is no doubt a corruption) is spelt Llyswyry for the reasons detailed in the article Alecs casnewydd (talk) 22:27, 16 October 2009 (UTC)

It isn't mentioned in my copy of Wyn Owen and Morgan's Dictionary of the Place-names of Wales, but the Encyclopedia of Wales article on Newport refers to it as Liswerry.Pondle (talk) 10:43, 17 October 2009 (UTC)

There are many examples of Welsh place names first being more fully anglicised, in English language documents, before being converted back into a supposedly "Welsh" spelling which does not coincide with actual correct spelling in Welsh. For example, the town was anglicised as Carnarvon before being changed, in English usage, to "pseudo-Welsh" Caernarvon, and only recently to the correct Welsh spelling of Caernarfon. Also Tryleg (Welsh) > Trelleck (English) > Trellech (pseudo-Welsh). I suspect that Llyswyry > Liswerry > Lliswerry shows a similar pattern. Ghmyrtle (talk) 10:51, 17 October 2009 (UTC)

Churches?

"Newport has more than 50 churches". Hmmm, maybe, but where are they? Apart from St.Wollos Cathedral, not a single one gets any mention in this article, not even as a notable building or as a gallery image. I was looking for somewhere to mention BBC's Songs of Praise of 23 May 2010, which was recorded at The King's Church in Newport, but I am at a loss to know where it might go. Martinevans123 (talk) 17:47, 25 May 2010 (UTC)

Now looking much better. But perhaps the main churches/ mosques of each denomination deserve individual mention? Also notable buildings where a disused church has been put to new use, e.g the Hussaini Mission at 1 Commercial Street (the bottom of Kingsway near Gilligans Island), which used to be the Welsh Chapel? Martinevans123 (talk) 10:27, 3 July 2010 (UTC)

Also this newsletter has the article "The Building Stones of Newport, Gwent", 1st July 2006 by Stephen Howe, which seems quite useful. Martinevans123 (talk) 10:38, 3 July 2010 (UTC)

Ymerodraeth State of Mind

I know this is probably not encyclopedic and not worthy of a mention in the article, but it's very funny so I'm posting it here just to hopefully give a few people a chuckle - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aNfbX6uvA6s 86.5.132.10 (talk) 22:03, 21 July 2010 (UTC)

I loves it, bro. Safe, Daicaregos (talk) 09:08, 25 July 2010 (UTC)

Secondary references from the UK national press available here: http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/entertainment-arts-10749568 , http://news.sky.com/skynews/Home/Showbiz-News/Alicia-Keys-Parody-Newport-State-Of-Mind-Becomes-Online-YouTube-Comedy-Hit/Article/201007415669321?lpos=Showbiz_News_Third_UK_News_Article_Teaser_Region__6&lid=ARTICLE_15669321_Alicia_Keys_Parody%2C_Newport_State_Of_Mind%2C_Becomes_Online_YouTube_Comedy_Hit and here http://www.guardian.co.uk/media/pda/2010/jul/23/viral-video-chart-newport , as well as local press e.g. http://www.southwalesargus.co.uk/news/8286456.Empire_State_of_Mind____Newport_style_is_YouTube_hit/ Mootros (talk) 09:26, 25 July 2010 (UTC)

In my opinion, it's worthy of noting as it's a representation of Newport in popular media. Frognsausage (talk) 13:29, 26 July 2010 (UTC)

I think this is definately worth of inclusion in the article, as Newport based Rap group Goldie Looking Chain have released a song, "You're not from Newport", attacking the original song "You probably never been there either, I bet you a fiver, You're not from Newport" Can be found here: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Dx8CZyFM4b4 86.24.162.140 (talk) 21:23, 8 August 2010 (UTC)

Newport (Ymerodraeth State of Mind)

Reference to a viral video on YouTube:

"Newport is the subject of a 2010 song Newport (Ymerodraeth State of Mind); a parody of the Jay Z song "Empire State of Mind." It was directed by MJ Delaney, written by Tom Williams and Leo Sloley, and performed by Alex Warren and Terema Wainwright. Published to the web on 20 July 2010, the video went viral and by the middle of August 2010, nearly 2.5 million people had watched it on YouTube."

has been removed, with the edit summary “Remove non-notable WP:RECENTISM” (at least you're using an edit summary this time Owain). The policy referred to suggests considering the 'ten-year test': i.e. In ten years will this addition still appear relevant? IMHO the fact that there have been more than 2.5 million views (ref) of the video, the subject of which is Newport, makes it notable. Any event making an impact on that number of people should be mentioned on the article. That it happened would still be notable in 10 year's time. Daicaregos (talk) 12:09, 10 August 2010 (UTC)

I would certainly support it being mentioned, given the viral success of the video (someone even sent it to me!). The fact that Newport will be getting a lot of transatlantic hits in the run-up to the Ryder Cup needs to be borne in mind. Ghmyrtle (talk) 13:55, 10 August 2010 (UTC)

Quite agree. And not forgetting .. Thank you Misplaced Pages. Wiki. Wiki... isn't it. Martinevans123 (talk) 22:05, 15 August 2010 (UTC)

Yes, it definitely needs a mention. The saga isn't over yet though , and I also saw a mention somewhere that its due to be released as a single. At this rate it will be notable enough for its own article eventually! Jeni 14:11, 10 August 2010 (UTC)

We now have User:Welshleprechaun deleting details and refs to the removal of the video from YouTube - which is an issue that has received mainstream attention on the BBC and in newspapers. It is a notable copyright-related issue, in my view. Comments? Ghmyrtle (talk) 18:26, 13 August 2010 (UTC)

It is notable and should be kept in the article. Daicaregos (talk) 20:37, 13 August 2010 (UTC)

I'm not against including info on the song at all, but the fact that the video was removed from YouTube doesn't seem to be that relevant Welshleprechaun 10:58, 15 August 2010 (UTC)

Coat of arms copyright problem

I had to remove much of the Coat of Arms section as it was copied from here. The text was first introduced into the article 14 May 2004, here. A December 2003 archive of the webpage shows we took from them.--NortyNort (Holla) 03:07, 12 July 2011 (UTC)

South Wales

There is a longstanding consensus that Newport can be referred to as being in South Wales. The term "East Wales" is misleading, and rarely if ever used. I have reverted and warned the editor concerned, and reported him/her at WP:AN/I. Ghmyrtle (talk) 16:08, 26 January 2012 (UTC)

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