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:*'''Comment'''{{ndash}} Could you please be more specific about what you have stated as the "regular coverage clause" in ]? There is no such clause of GNG that is written this way. Did you make this up?! <small><font face="arial"><strong>]</strong><sup>]</sup></font></small> 11:38, 7 February 2012 (UTC) :*'''Comment'''{{ndash}} Could you please be more specific about what you have stated as the "regular coverage clause" in ]? There is no such clause of GNG that is written this way. Did you make this up?! <small><font face="arial"><strong>]</strong><sup>]</sup></font></small> 11:38, 7 February 2012 (UTC)
*'''Comment''': Just wanted to note that the restaurant seems to receive strong local coverage.. Perhaps someone will tell me why that's not sufficient, I recall debates about such things before, but currently no delete !votes do that.--''']''' • <small><sup style="position:relative">]<span style="position:relative;bottom:-2.0ex;left:-3.2ex;*left:-5.5ex;">]</span></sup></small> 16:18, 7 February 2012 (UTC)

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Sal's Pizza (Dallas)

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Non-notable local restaurant. Only sources appear to be Dallas-area news outlets, with one mention being a rather trivial listing of restaurants in the entire metro area. I counted several pizza places in that list, with just two or three brief sentences devoted to the subject of the article. The Devil's Advocate (talk) 06:29, 4 February 2012 (UTC)

The Best of mention is not a trival listing; despite the whimsical naming scheme, those are annual roundups of the best local establishments. Yes, the sources are Dallas-area, which means they serve 2+ million people. D Magazine - Is Dallas not notable? Sal's has won recognition from two independent, credible news sources. In combination with the restaurant's longevity, that should be enough to establish notability. The Sal's Pizza (New England chain) article http://en.wikipedia.org/Sal%27s_Pizza_(New_England_chain) has been online since 2008, and lists no awards. Sal's Pizza, in Dallas, has been around since 1982 and has won several awards. If you delete Sal's, by these standards, Restaurants_in_Dallas,_Texas is going to start being a very small category! D Magazine and Dallas Observer are verifiable, reliable, independent. No original research is required to furnish why the restaurant is notable; those sources have noted it. Awards and positive reviews are the baseline of significant coverage for a restaurant, are they not? Merely because no citations have been provided for non-Dallas news sources does not mean they do not exist, or could not in the future. Pawsplay (talk) 08:33, 4 February 2012 (UTC)
  • Keep - Topic meets WP:GNG, per significant coverage in:
Also, here's a short article:
Northamerica1000 10:23, 4 February 2012 (UTC)
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  • Delete - Despite claims to the contrary, the chain does not meet the standard. The First two are local reviews, which fall under the "regular coverage" clause of the notability guidelines. Additionally, it is clearly stated that best of lists and the like are not considered valid sources when establishing notability, so that knocks out the last. Notability has not been established. Pawsplay's, the author of the article, claim about the article on Sal's Pizza in Boston still being around is no more than WP:Other stuff exists. The sources provided are ineffectual in establishing notability because the author made the mistake of confusing actual coverage with trivial mention, which is at the root of the issue. Notability requires quantitative coverage as opposed to trivial coverage which only establishes verifiability. --Jeremy (blah blahI did it!) 17:19, 4 February 2012 (UTC)
Note: This debate has been included in the Article Rescue Squadron's list of content for rescue consideration. Northamerica1000 11:35, 7 February 2012 (UTC)
  • Comment: Just wanted to note that the restaurant seems to receive strong local coverage.. Perhaps someone will tell me why that's not sufficient, I recall debates about such things before, but currently no delete !votes do that.--Milowent 16:18, 7 February 2012 (UTC)
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