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No problems ... but I think I am hurting

Sitush, I want you to have a clear picture of what looks to you like a bad situation. I began a DRN in a perfectly acceptable way, but apparently some people are not pleased with my original wording. Well, the editors in question are showing up and sticking in posts like pins in a cushion. We all know you post at the bottom of a thread. New posts beneath earlier ones. I politely went to each ed's pages and asked them politely to stop doing that. One accused me of wikihounding and trying to "frighten" him and God knows what ... the other simply acted confused. So that's it. There we are. Do you feel better now? Look, I am glad and appreciative that you came to the talk page, but you know ... unfair is unfair, and I occasionally feel some unfairness at WP. Even Floquenbeam acknowledged that he was being a little gruff sometimes. Just want you to know, I am being a good little boy and it seems if I speak up about something not quite right, I get spanked.—Djathinkimacowboy 19:33, 20 March 2012 (UTC)

S., I'm a nosey beggar and couldn't help following W.'s posts. (From the talkback below.) I see you and I share similar views about DRNs. However, if you have seen the one I started, you'll see it disintegrated to the na-na-na-boo-boo stage mostly directed toward me. You'll also note the ineffectiveness of the 'clark', who seems to be a newbie to the board. No wonder I packed it in so fast. But now I don't feel quite so hurt.—Djathinkimacowboy 20:51, 20 March 2012 (UTC)

Sitush, it wasn't so bad and I am striking what I feel to be inappropriate language in my previous post. Sleddog is a good sort. Good luck to you.—Djathinkimacowboy 21:23, 20 March 2012 (UTC)

Talkback

Whenaxis talk · contribs | DR goes to Wikimania! 20:33, 20 March 2012 (UTC)

A cup of tea for you!

I think you need this - I'll leave the whole pot for you if it helps :) Jezebel'sPonyo 21:55, 20 March 2012 (UTC)

I need some feathers. I've spat them all over the room ;) - Sitush (talk) 21:59, 20 March 2012 (UTC)

I'll make sure to set some aside for you the next time I pluck a duck. --Jezebel'sPonyo 22:05, 20 March 2012 (UTC)

Given my area of interest, I can probably supply you with a donor bird within the next 24 hours. - Sitush (talk) 22:19, 20 March 2012 (UTC)

What?

What did I say? Did you think I meant malice when I said "I see that the fun in Misplaced Pages has eluded you. Best of luck to your endevaour, and once again I apologize for the DRN incident."? I can see eye-to-eye with you when you've gotten completely fed up with Misplaced Pages and just wanna give up, that's what I meant when I said, "I see that the fun in Misplaced Pages has eluded you." I've seen myself very upset with Misplaced Pages and I feel empathy for you. I just want to get disputes resolved and when someone's upset, it makes it worse when someone goes all in defensive mode, so I always apologize instead of escalating the situation by going defensive. I just wanted to make sure that everything was okay since you brought a complaint to my talk page. Conversations doesn't travel well over the Internet (a lot of it is in body language and tone of voice). I guess, I deserve the personal attack. Regards, Whenaxis talk · contribs | DR goes to Wikimania! 22:05, 20 March 2012 (UTC)

Sitush, hope you don't mind my chiming in here. Whenaxis, Sitush has spent a lot of time on India related topics and has been subject to every kind of PA, OUTING, and RS, OR imaginable. He is very familiar with the rules and the various routes for DR. Have you looked at his contribution history? I understand you were well intentioned but your response was the equivalent of calling tech support and having to listen to the first level "calm the irate customer" script that lacks actual useful content. Basically you templated a regular. JanetteDoe (talk) 22:36, 20 March 2012 (UTC)

Mm, I see.. thanks for your response, JanetteDoe. I see where I screwed up. I don't want to make it seem like a sob story.. but I'm really fed up with Misplaced Pages right now (just as you, Sitush, are probably with DRN and me).. I've just been under a lot of stress lately at work and that has probably corresponded with my edits on Misplaced Pages. So, that's all I got to say. Whenaxis talk · contribs | DR goes to Wikimania! 22:41, 20 March 2012 (UTC)

We were both at fault. Let's forget it and move on. - Sitush (talk) 23:40, 20 March 2012 (UTC)

Petrean

If you don't mind sharing, what was your subject faculty while at Cambridge? -- Secondat of Orange (talk) 22:44, 20 March 2012 (UTC)

History. A bit of Greeks and Romans but mostly modern era: unification of Germany & Italy, invention of tradition wrt British monarchy, British and European political 1800s - 1900s, antebellum US attitudes to slavery, and that sort of stuff. But, being Cambridge, it is a liberal education & so there were whopping big doses of philosophy etc also. - Sitush (talk) 23:39, 20 March 2012 (UTC)

Recent reverts @ Kaul

@ Sitush: Your comments "I have said it before: you are mixing up surnames and castes, which is wrong" & subsequent reverts ... would like to clarify that I have not linked caste to surname anywhere. I have clearly explained at the beginning of the article that the name Kaul is a surname and also a community (people who had Kaul as the surname of their ancestors)
If there is any specific sentence or issue that is still against the wiki policy, please let me know & I will modify it.-Ambar 03:32, 21 March 2012 (UTC)
How does your signature get linked to your talk page, it doesn't seem to be working for me.-Ambar 03:32, 21 March 2012 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Ambar wiki (talk • contribs)

I explained the signature thing above and you have had several messages on your own talk page that should have explained it - type four tildes, ie: ~~~~.

Regarding Kaul, just changing the lead section around does not alter the fundamental problem in the slightest. We have been through all of this on the article talk page, which is the correct forum for such discussions. Mind you, adding the caste infobox made matters even worse than they were when originally discussed.

I really do think that you should drop this whole idea or create a separate article - Kaul (surname) - that specifically deals with the use of the term as a surname in a global context and does not attempt to imply that it is purely caste-related. In particular, listing people with the Kaul surname cannot be linked to listing them as members of the Kaul caste/subcaste etc unless you have verification that they were of that caste or, if living, have self-identified. I really do not know how many more times I can repeat this and it is precisely why I cannot take on the role of mentoring you: for whatever the reason may be, I am quite obviously not capable of explaining this to you. A last point: you made your last edit to Kaul in defiance of warnings previously given to you. Do that again without first achieving consensus and you may well find yourself blocked from contributing to any article. - Sitush (talk) 03:47, 21 March 2012 (UTC)

In fact, I now see that you have already been blocked twice for doing exactly this thing. I think that you would benefit from a read of WP:IDHT because that last effort (the one that you made to Kaul a few hours ago) has really put you on the spot, especially since you have also been informed of the general sanctions that are in place. You could very easily find yourself indefinitely blocked from editing here. - Sitush (talk) 03:54, 21 March 2012 (UTC)

-- Reply --

I thought we had a consensus on the sandbox article. Anyways, will modify it further and get more consensus. Am going to remove the caste infobox & remove mention of caste from the article. Pls clarify if this is solving the matter ?

In defence, I only put up the article after I thought we had consensus.Ambar 06:08, 21 March 2012 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Ambar wiki (talk • contribs)

Note for Sitush to help Ambar's signature issue: S., may I chime in and suggest Ambar wiki have a look at the html code that will have to be got, in order for the signature to link to the user and talk pages? Ambar is asking how to get the signature to link to user page, talk page and perhaps others such as Ambar's contributions. An html code will be needed for that.—Djathinkimacowboy 13:56, 21 March 2012 (UTC) --Reply--

Hi DJA - where can I get this HTML code from ? Can you provide some links.'Ambar 01:31, 22 March 2012 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Ambar wiki (talk • contribs)

Kashmiri Pandit Article reformatted

Have reformatted the Kashmiri Pandit article to create a better flow and improve content, trying to make it more neutral. Can you take a look at it in my Sandbox page and leave some comments in my talk page pls.Ambar 06:34, 21 March 2012 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Ambar wiki (talk • contribs)

Upgrading Kalwar

The article Kalwar was just getting silly, up to and including computer 3D renderings of Solomon's Temple or some such thing. Absolutely baffling, so I dug up some very, very basic references and have a short article covering the traditional liquor-distilling caste of Northern India (not to be confused with the Tamil Kallar (caste)).

I've only done some brief digging, but prepare for a shocker: a rough glance at some 1980-2010 current literature by Indian academics appears to indicate that the Kalwar were a distilling caste who made some money, got into banking and other more prestigious trades, dropped their old habits like a rock, and set up orgs like the Kalwar Kshatriya Mashaba. It's almost as though there is some sort of pattern going on in the region... Historical revisionism is a grave, grave sin. MatthewVanitas (talk) 16:05, 21 March 2012 (UTC)

It has been on my watchlist for a while but I've never really done much with it, apart from fix egregious stuff. I, too, could not understand the images but had enough on my plate at the time when I noticed them. To be honest, I see a lot of stuff that I would like to sort out but there are not enough hours in the day, so I sometimes have a quick blast, watchlist the thing and return to do a bit more as and when it pings back on the watchlist. Right now, I am still reading up on Sainis and on a botanist whose article I would really like to develop from its present stub status. I'll continue to watch & fiddle with Kalwar, however. - Sitush (talk) 01:07, 22 March 2012 (UTC)

Caste system in India

Hi Sitush - Check the Caste system in India article and its talk page. Your guidance is appreciated. Thanks, ApostleVonColorado (talk) 17:41, 21 March 2012 (UTC)

ayanosh

Thanks for correction.]☺] (talk) 18:58, 23 March 2012 (UTC)ayanosh

Wrongful editing

Please do not DE-categorise living people according to what you believe their religious beliefs to be - as you have done at Arnab Ray - unless you can verify that they have never self-identified as adherents to the faith.

• http://greatbong.net/2011/07/24/the-question-of-suffering/#more-27117 ;first line of 5th para.
• https://www.facebook.com/arnabray/info ; Religious Views.

Thanks]☺] (talk) 06:29, 24 March 2012 (UTC)ayanosh

Categories should reflect the article content. You cannot expect people to wander through every source to check a category; far better to say in the text of the article that X is an agnostic, cite that using the source and then you add the category. Read WP:BLPCAT. - Sitush (talk) 10:05, 24 March 2012 (UTC)

SalariaRajput

As you can see here http://en.wikipedia.org/Special:Contributions/SalariaRajput, this guy is going around adding references to Sainis in dozens of places, essentially spamming those articles while providing no value at all. Even if Sainis were Rajputs, his edits would still make no sense at all. I understand you are not an admin, but you seem to be good at controlling such behavior. Is there something you can do? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Rajput666 (talk • contribs) 00:17, 25 March 2012 (UTC)

If you check the history for those articles then you will see that I have already done such as I can. Basically, reverted almost all of those edits. - Sitush (talk) 00:46, 25 March 2012 (UTC)

Pervez Dewan as a reliable source

As discussed earlier, Pervez Dewan's book "Jammu Kashmir Ladakh" ISBN 81-7049-179-7 was used to sight the population census of India. However, you have reverted the same stating that Dewan is not a reliable source. Would like to understand why do you think so. Have explained earlier that he was the 'Divisional Commissioner of Kashmir' while writing this book - which in India means he 'signed off' on all population census figures. So in a manner speaking, he was an authority on the official records in the state. I see no reason to doubt that he would provide wrong population figures in his book about Kashmir. Can you explain your concern. 'Ambar (talk) 05:30, 25 March 2012 (UTC)

Correction - Divisional Comissioner is a central Govt (Govt of India) position & not a state govt position. I have shared the Govt of India (IAS) website with you earlier.'Ambar (talk) 05:51, 25 March 2012 (UTC)

I have already explained at Talk:Kashmiri Pandit, and did so at the time of my revert. - Sitush (talk) 10:34, 25 March 2012 (UTC)

Can you review the latest Kaul article in my sandbox (view history) & let me know if any further modifications may be necessary. ^Ambar (talk) 12:10, 31 March 2012 (UTC)

Cabal emblem? Implied threat?

In this classic photo of many well-known wikipedia editors, I understand you're the tolerant-looking man leaning against the piano, who's about to sit down at it and play "As Time Goes By". May I ask why you're holding a human finger? I've inquired privately of RexxS (the demented motivational speaker trying to push Malleus Fatuorum off his chair), who first drew my attention to the pic, but he didn't seem to know. darwinbish 15:40, 25 March 2012 (UTC).

Fingers are not the only part of the human anatomy that look like that ;) Then again, I might be afflicted with polydactyly, with one digit being of ET proportions. I'll phone home and check. - Sitush (talk) 17:08, 25 March 2012 (UTC)

A barnstar for you!

	The Tireless Contributor Barnstar
	For your tireless work in Misplaced Pages. Cheers! Tito Dutta (Send me a message) 16:28, 25 March 2012 (UTC)

Thank you very much! Sitush (talk) 17:04, 25 March 2012 (UTC)

You're welcome! Best, --Tito Dutta (Send me a message) 17:13, 25 March 2012 (UTC)

PROD Dhakar

Article Dhakar is PRODed. I have no clue about the subject. But PROD reason of "Unreferenced, unable to establish notability" is possibly the reason to delete many articles of this group. Plus i have never seen that editor before on any of Indian articles. Maybe you have something to add to it. -Animeshkulkarni (talk) 08:35, 26 March 2012 (UTC)

Fixed, at least for now. That was an utterly ridiculous PROD by WWGB - the proposal system does at least require a little bit of care and a simple GSearch would have shown numerous results. Alas, WWGB's response was "whateva", so I guess that despite 59k contributions they are still not quite getting it. Thanks for letting me know, and I'll try to develop the thing over the next few days. - Sitush (talk) 09:21, 26 March 2012 (UTC)

Same editor did the same at Malav - I've removed that PROD too. -- Boing! said Zebedee (talk) 09:41, 26 March 2012 (UTC)

Okay! I also did not care to check on Google. Thought of pushing it towards you instead. :) I guess, if its not being deleted there isn't much rush to improve it. -Animeshkulkarni (talk) 09:53, 26 March 2012 (UTC)

Animesh, there is no problem with pushing such things in my direction and PRODs can serve a useful purpose in bringing attention to a bad situation. My gripe is that the PROD should not happen in the first instance without at least a little bit of elementary checking. Fortunately, admins will usually do that before deleting a PRODed article, but that just loads more work onto the admins and, of course, they are human and will occasionally make mistakes. Probably not as many mistakes as I make, but there are bound to be some!

Boing!, thanks for that. I'll try to add a source or two at Malav also. - Sitush (talk) 09:58, 26 March 2012 (UTC)

Authorlink

Thanks - I was being lazy. That is the right way to do it. Aymatth2 (talk) 14:40, 27 March 2012 (UTC)

Re:Offline source

Sure! :) Just send me a test mail using "Email this user" option and I'll attach the file in my reply. Well, the influence of Velamas on the Justice Party was quite strong for sometime but not always. I personally feel that the party was more strongly dominated by the Kapus of the Telugu country and the Vellalars and Chettys from the Tamil country along with a significant proportion of Nairs from Malabar.-Ravi_{My Tea Kadai} 16:00, 27 March 2012 (UTC)

Thanks

Thanks for your sympathy. :) Whenaxis (contribs) 20:46, 27 March 2012 (UTC)

Not wanting to hijack the discussion at ANI

But are topic bans logged anywhere? The block log seems to be no more and no less than its name. JanetteDoe (talk) 16:02, 28 March 2012 (UTC)

Yes, they should be at Misplaced Pages:Topic_bans#Placed_by_the_Wikipedia_community. I have no idea how error prone that log may be, and from time to time expired bans are probably removed from it. TT2011's is still shown at the moment. - Sitush (talk) 16:10, 28 March 2012 (UTC)

Thank you again. That is a very interesting page. JanetteDoe (talk) 16:20, 28 March 2012 (UTC)

Bunt community

please try to view edits from a bunts perspective.its commonsense to have images of popular celebrities on page rather than some unseen scholar or billionaire. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 118.151.208.146 (talk) 14:38, 29 March 2012 (UTC)

You are going to be blocked per WP:3RR but, in any event, there are discussions at Talk:Bunt (community) and your argument above is actually favouring my opinion there, ie: the images are undue weight. So why have any images of this type, whether your variety or those that already exist? - Sitush (talk) 14:43, 29 March 2012 (UTC)

Likely copyvio

Hello my friend. I could use a hand tracking down the copyvio source for this:

http://en.wikipedia.org/Ikshvaku_dynasty#Ikshvaku_dynasty_in_chronological_order_up_to_present

Chunks are finding their way into other articles via copy paste. It stinks of copyvio and I can't use waybackmachine, and I keep getting blocked from the verbatim google matches I see. Thanks for any help you can give. Best, Anna Frodesiak (talk) 09:26, 30 March 2012 (UTC)

Ah ha. I see you've found it before. Well, enwp has chunks all over the place. Anna Frodesiak (talk) 09:28, 30 March 2012 (UTC

I am fighting some hopping IPs over various articles. Just revert on sight because the sourcing etc is all wrong and the content keeps being reinstated, complete with the original cite requests etc from ages ago. - Sitush (talk) 09:29, 30 March 2012 (UTC)

I will add articles to my watchlist that I see at your contribs. I will revert on sight. Many thanks for the vigilance. :) Anna Frodesiak (talk) 09:41, 30 March 2012 (UTC)

No, thank you - more eyes are very welcome. I have the feeling that this is too big a range to block, so it may be two or three people working in concert and in brief but co-ordinated spurts. - Sitush (talk) 09:43, 30 March 2012 (UTC)

If I bump into anyone on IRC who is so inclined, I will ask them to watch the pages. :) Anna Frodesiak (talk) 09:59, 30 March 2012 (UTC)

WRT the ip's, the 117.199.195.xxx is probably blockable, but the 117.227.xxx.xxx probably isn't (too large). Semiprotection may be the best option, as you can make the case that these users are editing across a range of articles. JanetteDoe (talk) 16:26, 30 March 2012 (UTC)

Highly unlikely that I will be around during the next 48 hours. Semi-p is worth doing if it kicks off again in my absence. - Sitush (talk) 16:30, 30 March 2012 (UTC)

Removal of Logo of Patna University

You have removed the logo of Patna University by using some rule which must be convincing. But at the same time we must find the rule to include that logo in the article. Though I do not know who that that editor is I think he has made a good attempt and he should be guided to put the logo at the right place in a right manner. Arunbandana (talk • contribs) 06:28, 31 March 2012 (UTC)

I was in a bit of a rush at the time, sorry. The guideline is WP:LOGO. I am no expert regarding images but Magog the Ogre might be able to assist. - Sitush (talk) 20:16, 1 April 2012 (UTC)

Help

Hi Sitush, sorry to bother you, but if I followed my guts, I'd send this article straight to AFD... Would you be willing to please take a look at it when you have a moment, to see if it can be salvaged or if my approach is the best one? Thanks. Salvio 13:24, 31 March 2012 (UTC)

There isn't much to salvage there - it is just a massive series of unsourced names + BLP violations (ie: sourced, but they have not self-identified). Parkavakulam is also next to useless without sourcing, as is Parkavakulam Nathaman Udayar. I might be able to do something with the last two but the list should probably be stripped and merged/redirected to Parkavakulam if there is any substantive content left. - Sitush (talk) 20:13, 1 April 2012 (UTC)

Your Opinion

Consider http://en.wikipedia.org/Wikipedia:Featured_picture_candidates/Brahma_Kamal. Thanks.]☺] (talk) 18:31, 1 April 2012 (UTC)ayanosh

I tend to keep away from images: I am a complete philistine in that area, sorry. - Sitush (talk) 20:17, 1 April 2012 (UTC)

Restoring "diet" data on Nair?

You mentioned in your ES that the Diet section with mentions of pork and buffalo "seems okay" but didn't restore it. Was that a mistake, or are we re-examining those cites? I'd be less concerned were it not for the fact that pork/buffalo removal would fall into the "remove absolutely anything that could be seen as negative" editing tactic. MatthewVanitas (talk) 00:24, 2 April 2012 (UTC)

It was a mistake on my part, sorry. I thought that I was reinstating the buffalo/pork etc stuff but clearly screwed up. I have self-reverted. Can you fix? I am off to bed now & I literally just popped my (prescribed) opiate stuff, so my brain will be even more fuzzy in a few minutes. Sorry about this. - Sitush (talk) 00:30, 2 April 2012 (UTC)

Deletion of the content from Patna College

I think your recent deletion of the content from Patna College is almost like vandalism. What you call as trivial without any justification is not not proper at all. This also smacks of bias against this and similar other articles. Arunbandana (talk • contribs) 02:39, 2 April 2012 (UTC)

Listing in detail umpteen anniversary events is indeed trivia. My own college is somewhat older than Patna College. In 1984, during my time of study there, there were many events to mark its 700th anniversary. Now, go to the article at Peterhouse, Cambridge and try to find a mention of those events. I cannot recall ever editing it, by the way, as I would have a conflict of interest. - Sitush (talk) 10:24, 2 April 2012 (UTC)

I do not think that the anniversary events are umpteen, they are only a few. The details may be edited and can be made more to the point and impressive. But to delete them completely without giving any chance to justify and by using words such as 'trivial' is highly improper. We should better not compare Peterhouse, Cambridge with Patna College. If we look at history we may find that there were no Peterhouse, Cambridge or Oxford some thousand years back. The excellent universities in the world did exist but they were in different parts of the world. At the same time when Patna College or other good colleges got started they tried to follow the examples of Peterhouse, Cambridge or Oxford because they had become excellent by that time. No one knows where will the excellence emerge in the coming few years.

By the way you are a great wikipedian, I understand. But You are not fair in this context at all. Arunbandana (talk • contribs) 15:40, 3 April 2012 (UTC)

'Kurmi' ur last edit.

I feel ur last edit not in accordance WP:NPOV. Plz do not be unilaterally judgmental. Warning: Plz do not delete well ref content. Use proper tagging and talk pages to resolve. Thank You. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Jaychandra (talk • contribs) 06:38, 2 April 2012 (UTC)

Sockpuppet

Any chance that Bob1781 (talk · contribs) is a sockpuppet (of YK perhaps)? Could someone, maybe Qwyrxian, do an RFCU? I'm flat out of time. Fowler&fowler«Talk» 14:06, 3 April 2012 (UTC)

The odd bolding had me suspicious but with just one edit I doubt very much that anything can be done unless someone has a direct line to a checkuser who is prepared to ignore the usual WP:SPI process. I think that SPI itself is unlikely to accept a report based on so little. - Sitush (talk) 14:29, 3 April 2012 (UTC)

Thanks, Sitush. Good advice. Fowler&fowler«Talk» 05:21, 4 April 2012 (UTC)

(talk page stalker)  The CheckUser Magic 8-Ball says: that Bob1781 (talk · contribs) and Yogesh Khandke (talk · contribs) are at least  Likely, though I'd go as far as calling  Confirmed. In this case, in my opinion, an SPI would probably have been accepted; it was rather evident that this account was a sock. Cheers. Salvio 10:26, 4 April 2012 (UTC)

Editing Rewari

I wonder why you do not want the page on Rewari improved. The entire page is in shambles and I find several deletions from you, never any improvements. You are doubting my latest reference on Hemu on Rewari page calling it dubious. Please send to me your e-mail Id and I'll send to you the photo copy of the reference I have cited. Also please do not delete this edit till the issue is sorted out, whether, the citation is true or dubious. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 117.198.121.163 (talk) 15:30, 3 April 2012 (UTC)

The mere existence of a source does not make it reliable. Your source was "Samrat Hem Chandra Vikramaditya by Samrat Hem Chandra Vikramaditya Dhusar (Bhargava) Memorial Charitable Trust (Regd.)Rekmo Press New Delhi", which appears to be something published by an advocacy group rather than, say, an academic press. In any event, the more problematic issue is that the content simply overeggs the pudding. We have the Hemu article and the Rewari article is not about Hemu, so let's keep things in proportion. If you wish to continue this discussion then I suggest that you do so at Talk:Rewari, where there is a greater likelihood of input from others with an interest in the article. - Sitush (talk) 15:40, 3 April 2012 (UTC)

Sitush Ji,You have raised three objections on a minor point. Now it is for sure that Hemu was born somewhere, otherwise there was no need to talk about him. As per his community and decendents whose Trust is mentioned above, which you have called 'an advocacy group', Hemu, was born at Machheri village in Rajasthan. There are other citations also on this by various writers. What bewilders me, why any one would 'advocate' for a simple immaterial fact. However, if there is any other claim that Hemu was born in a particular city, I would like to be enlightened on this. I had put the fact of his birth at Maccheri on the page to remove an absurd comment which said (although he was born elsewhere). When I deleted the words written in brackets as they diluted the contents, my comments were removed by you; when I added his birth place Maccheri, you do not accept this also. Second issue is of proportion. Hemu, his Haveli in Rewari are important for Rewari page as Hemu was the only Hindu ruler, who won 22 battles across North India and who could rule from Delhi briefly out of the long span of 1192-1947. So this makes important for Rewari page to carry a few (3-4) sentences on Hemu. Third issue you have raised is of overegging the pudding? No way.Simple facts with no adjectives look impressive about him. There is no pampering. Also, you visit the page frequently. Do you find it in good shape ? Please suggest how to improve it. sk