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Thanks

Nice work on the missiles and ABM systems. Best regards, Tom Harrison 18:22, 22 February 2006 (UTC)

Thanks, Tom. Joema 18:50, 22 February 2006 (UTC)

Great Work

Hi, I'm new and I'm looking to improve space articles. I saw a couple of your edits, and checked out your user page. I thought you might be a good person to get in contact with. I'm still new to Misplaced Pages, so I'm learning about the the proper form of artciles. If you could check out my edits on the spacecraft page and give me some feedback, I'd appreciate it. Professionially, I have operated SOHO, NEAR, Terra, AQUA, supported AURA pre-launch, and I presently work on Swift.

Would you have any advice on using internal documentation? I have copies of the SOHO User Guide and NEAR Spacecraft Users Manual, but I don't think references to them would pass the verification statndard here.

Rob 01:58, 8 March 2006 (UTC)

Rob, thanks for your knowledgeable contributions. They are greatly appreciated. Your spacecraft edits look fine.

Don't worry too much about form. The key is getting quality content. Don't take it personally if people edit your stuff; that happens. Discuss and collaborate on the article talk page. Misplaced Pages encourages us to Be bold, so don't hesitate to make changes, especially since you're very knowledgable about aerospace. If you make big changes, use the talk page to describe why.

Re internal spacecraft documentation, if it's a web source you can always link to it, either in a "References" section, or using an in-line reference. See Misplaced Pages:Citing sources. You can also use footnotes: Misplaced Pages:Footnotes. If it's copywrited material you can extract sections into the article under Fair use.

Your time and contributions are valuable, so decide how best to contribute. Super-detail in one or two articles is nice but possibly of less benefit than shallower enhancement of many articles. As you noted on Spacecraft, many aerospace articles are in bad need of improvement. My suggestion is scan articles you have knowledge about and fix the most egregious problems first. But if you want to add tons of detail to a specific article, that's OK too.

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Joema 15:11, 8 March 2006 (UTC)

Flashlights?

I have some knowledge about aviation, space, science, cars, motorcycles, home theater, relational databases and flashlights.Joema 04:06, 9 December 2005 (UTC)

I think you're joking, but what knowledge of flashlights do you have? Is there another setting besides On/Off/Flash? Rob 16:01, 11 March 2006 (UTC)

It's actually serious, believe it or not. As with most items (knives, cars, watches, food, drink, clothing), there are more basic consumer versions and higher end versions, some of which are fairly exotic. In each area some aficionados study the items and form communities of interest. Some info on flashlights:

• Flashlight reviews
• Flashlight discussion website Joema 16:49, 11 March 2006 (UTC)

Streamlight

It was deleted per our proposed deletion process. I'll restore it and run it through our more rigorous articles for deletion process which promotes more discussion of the issue. Let me know if you have any questions about this procedure. (ESkog) 16:27, 12 March 2006 (UTC)

Arc Flashlights

If you want the deleted version I can userfy it for you, if that would help you create a better one. Just zis Guy you know? 12:28, 14 March 2006 (UTC)

Thanks, but not necessary. Joema 15:47, 14 March 2006 (UTC)

Article now re-written as Arc Flashlight. Joema 14:16, 19 March 2006 (UTC)

Goddard Space Flight Center

Hi Joe - Based on your recommendation, I added some content to the Goddard Space Flight Center article. The content is good, but I'm not sure the sytle is correct. I left some notes on the GSFC talk page. Rob 01:57, 20 March 2006 (UTC)

Rob, thanks a lot. That looks very good. I made a minor change to the 2nd paragraph. My only other recommendation is somehow compare the differences between JPL and Goddard. IOW, who does what, and why. Obviously in a diplomatic way. Joema 02:49, 20 March 2006 (UTC)

Safeguard (nuke)

It has been suggested that Safeguard (nuke) be moved, actually it was improperly moved to Safeguard (weapon). If you have a chance, maybe you could add your opinion to its talk page as to what the proper name should be or if it should be moved. --Dual Freq 15:03, 25 March 2006 (UTC)

Image:Srbthrust.jpg listed for deletion

Hunter 17:37, 10 April 2006 (UTC)

It's OK to delete. It was an early version which I didn't put a copywright tag on. Joema 21:33, 10 April 2006 (UTC)

Re: Biological psychiatry

Great job fixing up the biological psychiatry article! The only minor issue is incorrectly used citations - a "reference name" has to be defined for each one that you plan to use more than once. I'll do some fixing up in that department, but otherwise, excellent work. Fuzzform 18:12, 12 April 2006 (UTC)

I've begun work on the references. Several pieces of information are stated without clearly showing which citation they were drawn from. There are also a few grammatical and syntatical errors here and there, but that's to be expected when writing such a long article. Overall, it's in pretty good shape. By the way, thanks for taking the initiative to fix up the article; it was in a pretty sorry state prior to your rewrite. (P.S. references are much easier to read/edit if you decline the fields in a sort of list form.)Fuzzform 18:45, 12 April 2006 (UTC)

Thanks for the advice, and the help. I thought I used a reference name for each multiple citation. That's why they're displayed in multiple reference format in the footnotes section. Maybe I missed one or two?

Re putting the reference fields in list form, yes I learned about that after being mostly done, so I just didn't go back and change them. Joema 21:12, 12 April 2006 (UTC)

Hi Joema. Thanks for the invite to Biopsych. The article is better than i expected (i was braced for the worst after finding Anti-psychiatry in a real mess a month or so back), it appears like you have been involved in a significant rewrite - good work there. I completely agree with your sentiments on the talk page and will be happy to stick around and offer support. Cesar is actually a good guy and a very useful source of information on all things anti-psychiatric, but like many people with strong views against the mainstream, i think he finds if difficult to adopt NPOV sometimes (then again, i guess that is something we are all guilty of at somepoint). I'll make my suggested changes over the next few days and, since your arguments are backed in policy, i don't think there will be too much problem putting the finishing touches to make a nice little article. Rockpocket 07:02, 14 April 2006 (UTC)

Hello Joema. You posted a message on my talk page so here I am! I also put a brief response to your clarifications on the BioPsych talk page. I hope you didn't take my comments as an assault on your understanding of biochemistry. It's been a while since my last courses on neurotransmitters and pharmacology but I still like the stuff. I think it's great that you are putting so much effort into this article, particularly with your background. I find the earlier versions of the article baffling in their purpose and premises. Anyhow, I ended up on the BioPsych page during a routine RecentChanges patrol. When I saw the chat about POV problems and rather wacko claims of pseudoscience I hoped that the POV battle was being fought on the talk pages rather than on the main article page. Of course, as I read the article I was immediately struck by the argumentative POVs that came straight out of the gate. (By the way, I think your comments above about POV issues are pretty much on point.)

Still, what caused me to make such strong comments on the talk page was the absurdity of the arguments made by Cesar Tort. I have found that logic and rationality are not very effective tools in countering the type of mindset that embraces pseudoscience. They get stuck in the ruts of their own preconceptions and will stay there unless you can boot them to higher ground. When you try to counter their arguments on their own terms, or attempt too much of a concilliation that is not warranted by the facts, the loser is the truth, and you, too. If you wanted me to address anything more specific, let me know. Ande B 14:59, 14 April 2006 (UTC)

Appreciate the feedback and article changes. Anything you can do to maintain the proper encyclopedic nature of the article would be appreciated. 15:16, 14 April 2006 (UTC)Joema

Hey, it's Ande again. I've made a number of suggestions on the BioPsych talk page and would appreciate it if you would take a look at them and let me know if you're up to the task of some reorganization. I just want to get the article into better shape so that, perhaps someday, we can legitimately remove the disputed template. Ande B 16:29, 14 April 2006 (UTC)

I agree with all of your suggestions; your overall assessment is right on target. I'll start working on it, hopefully later today. Joema 18:01, 14 April 2006 (UTC)

Joema, thanks for being so diligent about this. If we now have a handfull of reasonable people working together, this article should come into a shape we can all be proud of. If you would like me to take on a particular part of our reorganization efforts, I'd appreciate you letting me know where you think my efforts might be best applied. And I'll try to avoid making any major moves without alerting people before I do. I don't want us working at cross purposes. Ande B 18:28, 14 April 2006 (UTC)

Thanks, but I think your time is best spent proofreading and suggesting/making further corrections as we go. Let me do the bulk of the work. Joema 20:58, 14 April 2006 (UTC)

• Joema, your current edit is nicely tight and focused, yet flexible enough to easily accomodate expansion. I would not have been able to edit the material so quickly without loss of accuracy. You have a future in writing review articles! You might want to talk to your academic advisors about student contributions to campus science publications. Sometimes working on such publications, even if its just cite checking, can get you into contact with professionals who can really help you later in your career. Ande B 02:39, 16 April 2006 (UTC)

Thanks for your nice comments and advice. However I've been out of college for 25 years. I formerly did technical writing for a computer company. Joema 08:48, 16 April 2006 (UTC)

My mistake, and sorry. I don't know why I thought you were a current biochem student. I must be staying up too late at night working on WP. No wonder you could edit yourself so quickly! (I once did technical editing for a big computer company in Silicon Valley, too!) The NPOV tag was removed by an editor, then replaced by Ombudsman then remaved once more by me. I hope this doesn't put us up against the 3 revert rule. Ande B 21:32, 16 April 2006 (UTC)

Fuzzform is the biochem student. He also did a lot of recent work on the article. Joema 21:36, 16 April 2006 (UTC)

Thank heaven's there's some explanation for my misunderstanding. Ande B 22:47, 16 April 2006 (UTC)

Hello Joema. I just wanted to add my comments - you have done a spectacular job on the biopsych page so far - well done. I've refrained from editing myself as a similar struggle on anti-psychiatry took way too much out of me to get too involved in something i know little about again so soon. However, i have been following the progress and i'm impressed...

The Original Barnstar As such, i hope you'll accept this barnstar i hereby award you, for hard work, graduating college 25 years ago ;), and remaining focused while editing biological psychiatry. Rockpocket 06:55, 17 April 2006 (UTC)