Misplaced Pages

Revision as of 03:15, 24 July 2012

This is the talk page for discussing improvements to the Awake (TV series) article. This is not a forum for general discussion of the article's subject.

Put new text under old text. Click here to start a new topic. New to Misplaced Pages? Welcome! Learn to edit; get help. Assume good faith Be polite and avoid personal attacks Be welcoming to newcomers Seek dispute resolution if needed Article policies Neutral point of view No original research Verifiability

Find sources: Google (books · news · scholar · free images · WP refs) · FENS · JSTOR · TWL

Archives: 1Auto-archiving period: 7 days

This is the talk page for discussing improvements to the Awake (TV series) article. This is not a forum for general discussion of the article's subject.

Put new text under old text. Click here to start a new topic. New to Misplaced Pages? Welcome! Learn to edit; get help. Assume good faith Be polite and avoid personal attacks Be welcoming to newcomers Seek dispute resolution if needed Article policies Neutral point of view No original research Verifiability

Find sources: Google (books · news · scholar · free images · WP refs) · FENS · JSTOR · TWL

Archives: 1Auto-archiving period: 7 days

This article is written in American English, which has its own spelling conventions (color, defense, traveled) and some terms that are used in it may be different or absent from other varieties of English. According to the relevant style guide, this should not be changed without broad consensus.

This page is not a forum for general discussion about Awake (TV series). Any such comments may be removed or refactored. Please limit discussion to improvement of this article. You may wish to ask factual questions about Awake (TV series) at the Reference desk.

This article is a current featured article candidate. A featured article should exemplify Misplaced Pages's best work, and is therefore expected to meet the criteria. Please feel free to leave comments. After one of the FAC coordinators promotes the article or archives the nomination, a bot will update the nomination page and article talk page. Do not manually update the {{Article history}} template when the FAC closes.

	Awake (TV series) has been listed as one of the Media and drama good articles under the good article criteria. If you can improve it further, please do so. If it no longer meets these criteria, you can reassess it.
Article milestones Date Process Result June 17, 2012 Good article nominee Listed July 4, 2012 Peer review Reviewed July 5, 2012 Peer review Reviewed July 12, 2012 Peer review Reviewed Current status: Good article

This article has not yet been rated on Misplaced Pages's content assessment scale. It is of interest to the following WikiProjects:

Please add the quality rating to the {{WikiProject banner shell}} template instead of this project banner. See WP:PIQA for details. Television Mid‑importance This article is within the scope of WikiProject Television, a collaborative effort to develop and improve Misplaced Pages articles about television programs. If you would like to participate, please visit the project page where you can join the discussion. To improve this article, please refer to the style guidelines for the type of work.TelevisionWikipedia:WikiProject TelevisionTemplate:WikiProject Televisiontelevision Mid This article has been rated as Mid-importance on the project's importance scale. Please add the quality rating to the {{WikiProject banner shell}} template instead of this project banner. See WP:PIQA for details. Science Fiction Mid‑importance This article is within the scope of WikiProject Science Fiction, a collaborative effort to improve the coverage of science fiction on Misplaced Pages. If you would like to participate, please visit the project page, where you can join the discussion and see a list of open tasks.Science FictionWikipedia:WikiProject Science FictionTemplate:WikiProject Science Fictionscience fiction Mid This article has been rated as Mid-importance on the project's importance scale. Please add the quality rating to the {{WikiProject banner shell}} template instead of this project banner. See WP:PIQA for details. California: Los Angeles Mid‑importance This article is within the scope of WikiProject California, a collaborative effort to improve the coverage of the U.S. state of California on Misplaced Pages. If you would like to participate, please visit the project page, where you can join the discussion and see a list of open tasks.CaliforniaWikipedia:WikiProject CaliforniaTemplate:WikiProject CaliforniaCalifornia Mid This article has been rated as Mid-importance on the project's importance scale. This article is supported by Los Angeles area task force. Please add the quality rating to the {{WikiProject banner shell}} template instead of this project banner. See WP:PIQA for details. United States: Television Low‑importance This article is within the scope of WikiProject United States, a collaborative effort to improve the coverage of topics relating to the United States of America on Misplaced Pages. If you would like to participate, please visit the project page, where you can join the ongoing discussions. Template Usage Articles Requested! Become a Member Project Talk Alerts United StatesWikipedia:WikiProject United StatesTemplate:WikiProject United StatesUnited States Low This article has been rated as Low-importance on the project's importance scale. This article is supported by American television task force (assessed as Top-importance). Please add the quality rating to the {{WikiProject banner shell}} template instead of this project banner. See WP:PIQA for details. Crime and Criminal Biography Low‑importance This article is within the scope of WikiProject Crime and Criminal Biography, a collaborative effort to improve the coverage of Crime and Criminal Biography articles on Misplaced Pages. If you would like to participate, please visit the project page, where you can join the discussion and see a list of open tasks.Crime and Criminal BiographyWikipedia:WikiProject Crime and Criminal BiographyTemplate:WikiProject Crime and Criminal BiographyCrime-related Low This article has been rated as Low-importance on the project's importance scale.

Template:Maintained

Title

No need to mention it was previously called "REM". Many things happen to a show during its production so I've removed it. It will be relevant to include it if there is a "Conception" or "Development" section in time.

12 episodes were ordered

should we add that in somewhere?? Caringtype1 (talk) 19:10, 1 November 2011 (UTC)

Title screen

Since the Hulu/NBC.com version has the title sequence, does anyone have the title picture that we can upload? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 64.134.230.93 (talk) 01:20, 17 February 2012 (UTC)

Influences

Anyone know if the Graphic Novel http://www.dccomics.com/vertigo/graphic_novels/?gn=14809 had any influence on the show? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Jeruvin (talk • contribs) 21:47, 28 February 2012 (UTC)

Character List

It's a bit confusing, and is there any way we can say if someone is a regular or just a recurring character? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 64.183.64.178 (talk) 17:14, 12 March 2012 (UTC)

If this shows makes it to a second season, we'll probably need a separate article for characters. --Boycool (talk) 15:10, 17 March 2012 (UTC)

I'll put this here since it has to do with the Character List and I wasn't sure if this would need a new section but... It says that in the Green Reality Emma has a miscarriage... now... Am I missing something or did that never happen? She still had the baby at the end of Say Hello To My Little Friend and then in Two Birds, the very next episode, she talks about her book report and plans to go to the beach with Rex the next morning and that's it. They don't mention her again... I went back and checked the summaries on the episode pages and there was no mention of it there either. So is this something that happened that I missed or is this something that was planned but never went in and is in there incorrectly or is it just a complete mistake? 66.31.71.78 (talk) 23:33, 25 May 2012 (UTC)

Nope, what's there is correct. She is pregnant in the red reality but has a miscarriage in the green reality (revealed in "Game Day"). It's possible you're just mixing up the two realities. Drovethrughosts (talk) 23:50, 25 May 2012 (UTC)

Well I *was* looking to the wrong episodes to find it but... I'm gonna have to rewatch Game Day, I just don't remember it...66.31.71.78 (talk) 00:19, 26 May 2012 (UTC)

Cast

this is WAAAAy to confusing, what's with all the NAs???? the old way is MUCH easier to understand. Caringtype1 (talk) 15:15, 24 March 2012 (UTC)

I agree; I think editors have been making it more complicated. Davejohnsan (talk) 19:42, 25 March 2012 (UTC)

Red reality/green reality?

Where did these terms originate? I don't recall them being used within the series. We need a citable reference calling them such, or out they go. I'll wait a day or two. - Jack Sebastian (talk) 17:44, 9 May 2012 (UTC)

In the series, he wears green or red wristbands to differentiate each reality, and each one has its own color scheme (warmer and cooler tones), that's where the terms come from. The character of Michael Britten is not going to use the actual words of "red world" and "green world" in the show, that's kinda silly. It's simply known as that to the viewers. Look at any article that discusses the series or interviews with the writers, and you'll see these terms being used. Drovethrughosts (talk) 21:04, 9 May 2012 (UTC)

Excellent, and thanks for letting me know. This should be pointed out as the source of the differentiation, btw. - Jack Sebastian (talk) 01:13, 10 May 2012 (UTC)

Mandelbrot set?

I've been working my way through the Signpost archives from before I found out there was a Signpost.

Look at one of the featured pictures here. Isn't that what appears every time Britten transitions from one reality to another?— Vchimpanzee · talk · contributions · 19:04, 11 May 2012 (UTC)

I'm not familiar with the Mandelbrot set, but I believe the images that flash are inkblots as they're related to therapy, which the character is in. Drovethrughosts (talk) 21:15, 11 May 2012 (UTC)

Well, unless some source identifies them as such, I guess we can't use it anyway.— Vchimpanzee · talk · contributions · 21:26, 11 May 2012 (UTC)

Correct. - Jack Sebastian (talk) 04:50, 12 May 2012 (UTC)

I finally saw this week's episode last night, and they didn't do it the usual way. I did see what looked like ink blots, though, and they weren't these.— Vchimpanzee · talk · contributions · 15:13, 12 May 2012 (UTC)

Contested deletion

This page should not be speedily deleted because it is notable by the overly positive reviews alone. --Boycool † (talk) 02:21, 17 May 2012 (UTC)

This page is not going to be deleted just because it was cancelled, if that is what you meant. There are plenty of shows that were cancelled that had pages that were not deleted. If you meant the show being cancelled solely, then it was already cancelled. It doesn't matter if a show got the best reviews in the world. Executives are not going to wait for a show with an average of a 0.9 key demo, not even NBC, whose ratings are dreadful. Show business is show business. Sorry if you can't get that fact. But who knows, maybe the show will be uncancelled if there is toomuch of a backlash. That backlash has to be huge, though. Thanks, Guy546 02:42, 17 May 2012 (UTC)

Oh, I see what you meant. That is the template Awake, not the actual article. Thanks, Guy546 02:51, 17 May 2012 (UTC)

Rather than delete the template, why not contribute by expanding articles for individual episodes? If episode articles reach GA status, there could be an Awake Good Topic. --Another Believer _(Talk) 16:44, 20 May 2012 (UTC)

Possibly, but it would take a lot of work, since we have so little information for each individual article. It would probably be better after a DVD/Blu-ray release if there is a commentary for each episode like The Simpsons. Thanks. Guy546 17:05, 20 May 2012 (UTC)

There a currently 2 GAs for Awake, i am working on "Turtles All the Way Down" and "Two Birds" --Tate Brandley Stockwell 00:49, 28 May 2012 (UTC)

B.D. Wong's comments about the second season

An IP with numerous vandalism warnings added some information under "Plot", which is probably the wrong place for it. It looks like good information if a source can be found, since part of what he said was confirmed by the finale, but I don't go to unfamiliar sites at home. It might be something that needs to be checked out so it can be dealt with properly. Given that at least one episode article is now "good", this is something to strive for with all the articles.— Vchimpanzee · talk · contributions · 15:36, 26 May 2012 (UTC)

There are 2 good articles, "Pilot" and "Say Hello to My Little Friend". From awhile ago. TBrandley 01:03, 24 July 2012 (UTC)

Well, that's said above. And TBrantley, you forgot to sign.— Vchimpanzee · talk · contributions · 15:57, 28 May 2012 (UTC)

I won't know until at least Monday, since I don't go to unfamiliar sites at home, but I may have found something.— Vchimpanzee · talk · contributions · 16:41, 2 June 2012 (UTC)

I'm going to add Kyle Killen's comments.— Vchimpanzee · talk · contributions · 18:44, 4 June 2012 (UTC)

GA Review

This review is transcluded from Talk:Awake (TV series)/GA1. The edit link for this section can be used to add comments to the review.

Reviewer: Khanassassin (talk · contribs) 05:33, 17 June 2012 (UTC)

• Is there really a need for the "Opening sequence" section? And should it even be in the "Production section?
  •  Done
• The "Character (Actor)" is really repetitive: It's in the "Plot" section, in the "Cast" table, and in the "Main characters" and "Recurring characters" sections. Is there really a need for that much? -And plus, the actors are linked every time.
  •  Done
• Some links to the actors' pages appear again in the "Production (Casting)" section
  •  Done

This article's a complete mess. Failed.... just kidding! :) That's all I could find. Take care of these minor issues, and it's a Pass. :) --Khanassassin ☪ 05:44, 17 June 2012 (UTC)

I believe I have fixed the issues. I think it is ready now. Thanks for the review. TBrandley 15:47, 17 June 2012 (UTC)

Yep, you did. It's a Pass. Good job! I'll give it a pass, though I suggest you put the "(Actors)" in the "Cast" section, since, well, they're the cast. :) --Khanassassin ☪ 15:51, 17 June 2012 (UTC)

List of Awake episodes FLC

List of Awake episodes has been listed as a featured list candidate. Feel free to comment here. Thanks users. TBrandley 14:54, 3 July 2012 (UTC)

Edit notice discussion

There is some discussion at Template talk:Editnotices/Page/Awake (TV series) regarding the edit notice for this article. ~~~~

Logo

The main logo, or whatever it's called, should be the title card, as its shown later in the article, but it needs to be the main one. We can use the tacky weird thing for the list of episodes.Caringtype1 (talk) 23:25, 23 July 2012 (UTC)

That's not a policy, and unless there is an overriding consensus; it can stay as is. House, M.D. is a featured article, and uses the logo instead of the title screen in the infobox. TRLIJC19 (talk) 23:48, 23 July 2012 (UTC)

I know it's not a policy, but I think it will look a whole lot better. And the title screen is more associated with the series, than the logo.(and the logo is ugly, but I know that isn't a reason to change it).

Do you or anyone else have any objections to me trying it out, by switching the images, on this page, and the episode list, seeing how it looks. then putting our thoughts here, so we can see what the consensus is?Caringtype1 (talk) 00:10, 24 July 2012 (UTC)

I do. The logo is better suited for an infobox, and the title screen is already in the 'series overview' section. TRLIJC19 (talk) 00:11, 24 July 2012 (UTC)

I strongly disagree with that . Look at Cougar Town, or Mr. Sunshine (2011 TV series), and their episode lists, and I think it looks much better. Can I try for one day, and other editors can say what they think?Caringtype1 (talk) 00:21, 24 July 2012 (UTC)

You just gave two examples of start class articles. House, M.D. is a featured article; which is what this article is aiming for. TRLIJC19 (talk) 00:23, 24 July 2012 (UTC)

For House, I agree with you. When i think of House, i think that logo. But not for Awake, I've never seen that logo used anywhere, but here. I really don't think this will really affect whether it becomes a featured article or not.Caringtype1 (talk) 00:27, 24 July 2012 (UTC)

We should wait for another user to offer their opinion. TRLIJC19 (talk) 00:28, 24 July 2012 (UTC)

I agree with TRLIJC19, just because you don't know the logo doesn't mean others will. There are no "policies, and unless there is an overriding consensus; it can stay as is" —TRLIJC19. Thanks for your concerns though. TBrandley 00:31, 24 July 2012 (UTC)

I don't know, if it's not changes Im un-watching all Awake related articles and will never visit the pages again because the logo is ugly.Caringtype1 (talk) 00:36, 24 July 2012 (UTC)

That is simply foolish and immature; but if that is what you want to do, then proceed I suppose. TRLIJC19 (talk) 00:38, 24 July 2012 (UTC)

In addition to that, you are threatening people on Misplaced Pages. We don't do that. TBrandley 00:40, 24 July 2012 (UTC)

Harmonious with the above comment, please see WP:ULTIMATUM, which explains that they should not be used. TRLIJC19 (talk) 00:43, 24 July 2012 (UTC)

I never threatened ANYONE, I just trying to improve the article, something that you two seem to not know how to do.Caringtype1 (talk) 00:45, 24 July 2012 (UTC)

I think by "threats", TBrandley meant ultimatums; which is why I offered the above link to WP:ULTIMATUM. You may also want to touch up on WP:CIVIL, because "SHOUTING" comes off as rude, and WP:NPA, because you saying that myself and TBrandley don't want to improve articles goes against "Comment on content, not on the contributor"; the main idea of WP:NPA. TRLIJC19 (talk) 00:56, 24 July 2012 (UTC)

Yeah, I did. Thanks :) Also, he said: "if it's not changes Im un-watching all Awake related articles and will never visit the pages again because the logo is ugly" can be rude. TBrandley 00:59, 24 July 2012 (UTC)

I wasn't rude, and didn't shout, or make ultimatums, so i have no idea what you're talking about. Anyway, lets end this. I am going to switch the images. Both of you will not change it or revert it. We will see what other editors not involved with this discussions think of it. If they like it, we'll keep it. If they don't we will change it back. that's fair. Okay??Caringtype1 (talk) 01:04, 24 July 2012 (UTC)

You will not switch the images; as that violates consensus. You made an ultimatum by saying the image needs to be switched or you will unwatch the articles. You shouted by writing "ANYONE" in all caps. You cannot go against consensus. TRLIJC19 (talk) 01:07, 24 July 2012 (UTC)

The "ultimatum" was about me, had nothing to do with you, or even the articles, so why would you care?? Writing in caps was to make a point, i wasn't shouting, I do it all the time, it's not against the rules. A 'consensus" means we are all in agreement(are least most of us), but there are only three here, and you two editors seem to have worked together many times and have a lot of the same opinions, we need third party opinions. And do not tell me what I'm going to do, now that's rude.Caringtype1 (talk) 01:11, 24 July 2012 (UTC)

Okay, you're getting a bit out of hand. It was still an ultimatum. Writing in caps is frowned upon per WP:CAPSLOCK. I have worked with TBrandley before, but we do not share the same opinions; it is coincidental. Although majority does not grant consensus, when two users are agreeing on a subject, and one is not, it should tell you that you are the only dissenting voice. Also, please don't say "telling people what to do" is rude, because you blatantly did it by writing "Both of you will not change it or revert it". Until another user gives their opinion, the page should stay as is; as you are proposing a new change that has not been agreed upon. As I said, I recommend you review WP:ULTIMATUM, WP:CIVIL, WP:NPA, WP:CAPSLOCK, and while you're at it: WP:CONSENSUS. TRLIJC19 (talk) 01:18, 24 July 2012 (UTC)

I'm not getting out of hand, YOU ARE. I can use ultimatums whenever I want, it doesn't concern anyone else but me. I was making a suggestion, not telling you what to do. i have a new suggestion. I'll put a new suggestion on this talk page propping the image switch. None of us will add our opinions, only other editors. We'll wait awhile and if most of them want to TRY the switch, we'll try it. and see how it goes from there. Can we all agree on that?Caringtype1 (talk) 01:28, 24 July 2012 (UTC)

Again, your cap letters just prove your inability to maintain discussion. You can use ultimatums, but it brings unnecessary wikidrama. It is unnecessary to make a new section header, as other users should see all of our opinions when deciding, per WP:CONSENSUS; a policy that you obviously did not read. TRLIJC19 (talk) 01:32, 24 July 2012 (UTC)

I think other editors shouldn't be influenced by this, and a new section would make it easier for other editors to add their opinions. I'll do it anyway, and they can put their opinion wherever they want. Agreed?Caringtype1 (talk) 01:34, 24 July 2012 (UTC)

The point is they should be influenced by this. Consensus is established by users looking at other users' opinions. A new section is completely unnecessary and redundant; and other users can respond right here. TRLIJC19 (talk) 01:37, 24 July 2012 (UTC)

In the new section, i'll put to read this first. i just want to separate their opinions from ours.Caringtype1 (talk) 01:40, 24 July 2012 (UTC)

That is so pointless. If you are making note to read here, they should just respond here! If another user has an opinion, they can post directly under this. We are capable of differentiating our opinions with other users'. TRLIJC19 (talk) 01:42, 24 July 2012 (UTC)

let me just show you what i mean. i just what to clearly express the issue.Caringtype1 (talk) 01:44, 24 July 2012 (UTC)

I know exactly what you mean. You want to make a new section, so we can differentiate other users' opinions from ours. This is unnecessary and redundant, as it is clear who is saying who. Leave it as is and wait for further comments. TRLIJC19 (talk) 01:46, 24 July 2012 (UTC)

That way actual consensus can be reached. TBrandley 01:52, 24 July 2012 (UTC)

i'm going to do it anyway, it really doesn't matter.Caringtype1 (talk) 01:53, 24 July 2012 (UTC)

No you're not, or you'll be reported for going against consensus. I have undone your changes; do not perform them again. TRLIJC19 (talk) 01:55, 24 July 2012 (UTC)

The logo will stay in the infobox unless various others agree with you, or further consensus is reached. TBrandley 01:59, 24 July 2012 (UTC)

You are not allowed to alter my edits on a talk page. This is certainly against Misplaced Pages rules. There is no consensus about making a new section. Other editors will see better if there isn't a large discussion above their post. I am going to redo the changes, or I'll report YOU for editing my post.Caringtype1 (talk) 02:01, 24 July 2012 (UTC)

(edit conflict) There will not be a new section created so you can dictate this discussion. Making a new section with your opinions right on top, is not neutral and shows you trying to dictate the discussion into a consensus you want. You have violated so many things; enough already, TRLIJC19 (talk) 02:02, 24 July 2012 (UTC)

I just trying to get a clear fair consensus. That is not violating any rules.Caringtype1 (talk) 02:04, 24 July 2012 (UTC)

We are all trying to do that. In order for that, everything should be neutral; and having your opinion right on top of a new section is not. Editors are competent enough to read through the discussion and post below; it is not an inconvenience. Please just wait for comments here. TRLIJC19 (talk) 02:05, 24 July 2012 (UTC)

Sorry but no. I propose that we change the image in the info box(which is the logo) and the image on the List of episodes page(which is the title card). There has already been a lengthy discussion about this above , but there was no clear consensus. Some editors felt it looked better with the logo on the main page(Like as in House's page) this post is to see what other editors think of the idea, after reading the above discussion. If most editors want to switch the images, we will try it, to see what it will look like. If most editors don't want to switch them, we will leave it like it is.Caringtype1 (talk) 02:11, 24 July 2012 (UTC)Caringtype1 (talk) 02:10, 24 July 2012 (UTC)

Stop creating a new section! See above. TBrandley 02:14, 24 July 2012 (UTC)

(edit conflict) You are violating TPG and dictating this discussion. I understand you want your edits seen so I have merged them above, but you may not get a section of your opinion on top to own this discussion. The fact that you couldn't even respond to my above message shows that you are not competent to maintain a valid discussion. TRLIJC19 (talk) 02:15, 24 July 2012 (UTC)

Its just so its neater, and other editors aren't biased by this pointless discussions. Don't revert again. If this was an article there would be no problem with it, but this is a talk page. Im allowed to say whatever I want and you CANT edit it.Caringtype1 (talk) 02:17, 24 July 2012 (UTC)

Its called a talk page for a reason. TBrandley 02:19, 24 July 2012 (UTC)

(edit conflict) I don't give up so you the user can WP:OWN this discussion. Neatness is not a concern here. These discussions should influence the other users' as all points given are valid from all parties. You need to stop, TRLIJC19 (talk) 02:20, 24 July 2012 (UTC)

I agreed. Just trying to make a point. Thanks! TBrandley 02:22, 24 July 2012 (UTC)

" Please do not delete or edit legitimate talk page comments, as you did at Talk:List of Up All Night episodes. Such edits are disruptive and appear to be vandalism. If you would like to experiment, please use the sandbox. Thank you. AussieLegend (talk) 23:19, 20 July 2012 (UTC)" That message was posted on my talk page last week because of a mistake i made while editing. You are doing the same thing on purpose. You need to stop.Caringtype1 (talk) 02:24, 24 July 2012 (UTC)

This is completely different, and unrelated to that. TBrandley 02:28, 24 July 2012 (UTC)

Its the same exact thing. Don't change it again.Caringtype1 (talk) 02:29, 24 July 2012 (UTC)

Nope. See, that is for deleting important comments. This is because you are trying to WP:OWN this talk page, and are no sticking by other guidelines. TBrandley 02:31, 24 July 2012 (UTC)

Per TBrandley, no comments were deleted, but simply moved so you can't dictate this discussion. TRLIJC19 (talk) 02:34, 24 July 2012 (UTC)

Caringtype1, I have opened up a case at the administrator's noticeboard about your inability to have a polite discussion. TRLIJC19 (talk) 02:33, 24 July 2012 (UTC)

I am going to post it one more time. Other editors can post their opinions wherever they want. Im not trying to get them to see my post on top because they would see it on top of this original post anyway. Don't change it, its pointless to change it again.Caringtype1 (talk) 02:36, 24 July 2012 (UTC)

It will be deleted, as it is already included above. You clearly are not reading the comments/advice from me and TBrandley, that a new section will enable you to dictate the discussion. TRLIJC19 (talk) 02:37, 24 July 2012 (UTC)

There was an discussion above about switching the logo on the main page, with the title card on the list of episodes. Please read that discussion because no clear consensus was reached and we would like to get more opinions. Thank you.Caringtype1 (talk) 02:38, 24 July 2012 (UTC)

You do realize that my opinion is still on top because I was the one who originally posted it. How is that dictated???Caringtype1 (talk) 02:44, 24 July 2012 (UTC)

On top of a new section with no below comments is dictating discussion. TRLIJC19 (talk) 02:46, 24 July 2012 (UTC)

That makes NO SENSE!!! you make the new section! I don't care!! I just wanted to see what other editors thought of my idea!! what is wrong with that???Caringtype1 (talk) 02:48, 24 July 2012 (UTC)

If an editor is going to comment; they will obviously have read the above discussion, where you state your idea multiple times. I recommend you don't add the section again, or you will have violated WP:3RR. TRLIJC19 (talk) 02:50, 24 July 2012 (UTC)

Its okay to have an open mind. Just don't violate guidelines, etc. Okay. TBrandley 02:51, 24 July 2012 (UTC)

Do you know how many rules you are violating?? Come on, you are accomplishing NOTHING and you are doing it on purpose because you want to keep things the way they are, and disagree with SUGGESTION, I never even changed it!!Caringtype1 (talk) 02:54, 24 July 2012 (UTC)

No rules were violated by TBrandley, but only by you. You have been going against consensus by making a new section header to dictate this discussion. Can you just start acting civil (stop screaming in cap letters), and wait for users to respond directly below? Thanks, TRLIJC19 (talk) 02:56, 24 July 2012 (UTC)

thats the point, no one is going to respond after this big long argument with the same three people!!! thats why we need a new section!!Caringtype1 (talk) 02:58, 24 July 2012 (UTC)

Yes they are. If someone truly cares, they will see the 'logo' header, read the discussion, and comment. Instead of arguing, I recommend reading up on Misplaced Pages's key policies, as I have mentioned. Your continuous reverting makes me feel as though your edits are not in good faith. TRLIJC19 (talk) 03:01, 24 July 2012 (UTC)

YOU ARE USING THE "RULES" TO EGT YOUR OWN WAY AND THAT IS CERTAINLY NOT IN GOOD FAITH!Caringtype1 (talk) 03:05, 24 July 2012 (UTC)

I am truly trying to get you to understand me. Please stop shouting; as it comes off as very rude. Supporting arguments with Misplaced Pages's policies are the basis of what this project is about. TRLIJC19 (talk) 03:06, 24 July 2012 (UTC)

PUTTING THINGS IN BOLD IS THE SAME AS ALL CAPS, AND "STOP SHOUTING" ARE YOU SERIOUS??? YOU ARE BEING CONDESCENDING AND I AM AWARE OF ALL POLICIES AND AM NOT BREAKING ANY OF THEM!!!!Caringtype1 (talk) 03:11, 24 July 2012 (UTC)

You clearly are not aware of all policies by the way you have been responding, and acting. I am not being condescending; I am trying to get you to understand mine and TBrandley's reasoning. Emboldening is to try to emphasize a word, caps lock is shouting. You really need to take some time to review policies on user etiquette. TRLIJC19 (talk) 03:13, 24 July 2012 (UTC)

Your behavior is appalling. I'm done with this discussion, Im done with all "Awake" related articles, I'm done with pointlessly arguing with you. Its not worth my time, and by the way, don't assume someone is a woman because Im not.Caringtype1 (talk) 03:15, 24 July 2012 (UTC)

• Misplaced Pages articles that use American English
• Misplaced Pages featured article candidates
• Misplaced Pages good articles
• Media and drama good articles
• Old requests for peer review
• All unassessed articles
• GA-Class television articles
• Mid-importance television articles
• WikiProject Television articles
• GA-Class science fiction articles
• Mid-importance science fiction articles
• WikiProject Science Fiction articles
• GA-Class California articles
• Mid-importance California articles
• GA-Class Los Angeles articles
• Unknown-importance Los Angeles articles
• Los Angeles area task force articles
• WikiProject California articles
• GA-Class United States articles
• Low-importance United States articles
• GA-Class United States articles of Low-importance
• GA-Class American television articles
• Top-importance American television articles
• American television task force articles
• WikiProject United States articles
• GA-Class Crime-related articles
• Low-importance Crime-related articles
• WikiProject Crime and Criminal Biography articles