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Rhian Wilkinson

Is it correct for this person's article to have an Olympic medal listed under 'Honours' and 2 separate medals listed under medal record? I see under other wiki articles of Canadian soccer players that all the person's medals are listed under honours. If you think you can correct this situation where there are 2 medal templates, please feel free to merge all the medals under the 'honours' template. Best Regards and Goodnight from Canada, --Leoboudv (talk) 09:12, 17 August 2012 (UTC)

• I would consolidate the two medal templates into one place, but am really indifferent on where it should be. But splitting them up like this is useless. Courcelles 17:18, 17 August 2012 (UTC)
• I hope you are successful in doing so in your free time. Best Wishes, --Leoboudv (talk) 18:09, 17 August 2012 (UTC)

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Advice/opinion please.

Hi, I am asking you because you closed an AfD some time ago as merge, marked the article as such. This was subsequently ignored by an editor and the article is now renominated for AfD. This is for explanation only. However, one editor has made the comment, "An old AfD can not be used as a precedent for the result of this AfD. You should know better. End of discussion." Can it be used as a precedent. Pointing me to any guidelines etc would be appreciated. --Richhoncho (talk) 16:23, 18 August 2012 (UTC)

In my opinion and to my knowledge an old AfD can hardly be used as a precedent for how to close a current AfD even if it is about the same exact subject. A new AfD should take into consideration any new updates and facts so referring to an old AfD result is in my opinion not a particular strong reason for deletion. And yes I have to disagree with how that particular AfD was closed but that is my personal opinion which I am perfectly entitled too just as user Richhoncho is entitled to his. Somehow however user Richhoncho seem to be under the impression that I am not entitled to that opinion. Which for me seems a bit harsh.--BabbaQ (talk) 16:35, 18 August 2012 (UTC)

This side discussion is unhelpful. If you wish Courcelles to comment openly, then the discussion should take place at the current AFD, not here. The Rambling Man (talk) 16:40, 18 August 2012 (UTC)

FWIW, My question was a general question, "where's the guidelines?" and as such would relate to any AfD subsequently ignored by any editor. If my question is construed as canvassing votes, then I apologise. That was not intended. If my question had been answered as requested at the relevant Afd, then I would not have asked the question here. --Richhoncho (talk) 16:56, 18 August 2012 (UTC)

In a general sense, I don't think there IS a hard and fast rule here. That said, I would think the way to contest a merge close would be at DRV, rather than filing another AFD. That said, if another AFD is already filed, no real harm in letting it run and a keep close would effectively overrule the first AFD. (Due to attribution reasons, one would need to be careful before closing such a situation as a straight delete, as some content may have already been merged, making deletion not really an option.) Courcelles 17:07, 18 August 2012 (UTC)

Many thanks, just for clarification, there was a merge AfD Dec 2010 finally converted to a merge in May 2011, and reverted a month or so later. It has since been listed twice for AfD deletion (1 no consensus, and one ongoing) without reference to the previous merge AfD. When I am told there is a guideline (especially in such a fraught AfD as this one) that says previous AfDs don't count, I am inclined to ask eleswhere when I don't get a straight answer. Thanks for your time, much appreciated. --Richhoncho (talk) 17:26, 18 August 2012 (UTC)