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:::::I regret this matter as well. I would contact him, but I have a feeling Tony might know him better, and I don't want any sort of impression of people "ganging up" on him, so I haven't and will not "gang up" on him regarding this. Jclemens, you know the details here a lot better than I do. While I agree he should have contacted ArbCom, I can also see how it might be possible that he wanted the stigma of the ArbCom ruling, indicating that he was somehow pro-PRC, to not follow him around from this point forward. I also note in your first comment on this thread that he should contact ArbCom, in fact, that he is "expected" to. Not knowing what Tony is finding out here, I assume that, if as I think it might be that notice slipped his mind, given the recent developments in his life. I think he kind of implied that was probably his thinking by indicating it is an alternate account, as opposed to trying to pass himself off as a new editor. I hope I don't seem to be putting words in his mouth, but if this were an honest attempt to come back under a different name, without the stigma of the ruling which seemed to be one of, if not the, primary reason for retirement, I hope that the ArbCom might be willing to maybe lift the ban, if he does contact you directly and deal with the pending complaint, which I think the evidence at least implies he might have forgotten the exact nature of? ] (]) 00:34, 30 August 2012 (UTC) | :::::I regret this matter as well. I would contact him, but I have a feeling Tony might know him better, and I don't want any sort of impression of people "ganging up" on him, so I haven't and will not "gang up" on him regarding this. Jclemens, you know the details here a lot better than I do. While I agree he should have contacted ArbCom, I can also see how it might be possible that he wanted the stigma of the ArbCom ruling, indicating that he was somehow pro-PRC, to not follow him around from this point forward. I also note in your first comment on this thread that he should contact ArbCom, in fact, that he is "expected" to. Not knowing what Tony is finding out here, I assume that, if as I think it might be that notice slipped his mind, given the recent developments in his life. I think he kind of implied that was probably his thinking by indicating it is an alternate account, as opposed to trying to pass himself off as a new editor. I hope I don't seem to be putting words in his mouth, but if this were an honest attempt to come back under a different name, without the stigma of the ruling which seemed to be one of, if not the, primary reason for retirement, I hope that the ArbCom might be willing to maybe lift the ban, if he does contact you directly and deal with the pending complaint, which I think the evidence at least implies he might have forgotten the exact nature of? ] (]) 00:34, 30 August 2012 (UTC) | ||
::::::Such a block is not punishment, it's a technical means to ensure that he will address the outstanding issues before continuing any date-related editing. I expect he will be unblocked presently and the previously suspended proceeding resumed. ] (]) 01:04, 30 August 2012 (UTC) | ::::::Such a block is not punishment, it's a technical means to ensure that he will address the outstanding issues before continuing any date-related editing. I expect he will be unblocked presently and the previously suspended proceeding resumed. ] (]) 01:04, 30 August 2012 (UTC) | ||
== Unblocked (August 2012) == | |||
The Arbitration Committee accepts your block appeal, and I have unblocked your account. The clarification proceedings which you left unanswered in June 2012 will be re-opened in the coming days, and your prompt, complete participation in that request is required if your account is to stay unblocked (and your alternative account is to be unblocked). If you have any questions, please contact any arbitrator or the mailing list. For the Arbitration Committee, ] ]] 07:33, 30 August 2012 (UTC) |
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User:Ohconfucius
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Misplaced Pages:Arbitration/Requests/Case/Falun Gong 2 closed
An arbitration case regarding Falun Gong has now closed and the final decision is viewable at the link above. The following remedies have been enacted:
- Homunculus is banned from editing and/or discussing topics related to the Falun Gong movement and/or the persecution thereof, broadly construed, across all namespaces, for a period of one year.
- Ohconfucius is indefinitely banned from editing and/or discussing topics related to the Falun Gong movement and/or the persecution thereof, broadly construed, across all namespaces.
- At the discretion of any uninvolved administrator, editors may be placed on mandated external review for all articles relating to the Falun Gong movement and/or the persecution thereof, broadly construed. Editors on mandated external review must observe the following restrictions on editing within the designated subject area:
- Any major edit (defined as any edit that goes beyond simple and uncontroversial spelling, grammatical, and/or stylistic corrections to article content) must be proposed on the article's talk page. This proposal must be discussed by interested editors until a consensus to make the edit is formed.
- Once consensus has been reached in support of the edit, the proposal must be reviewed by an uninvolved editor for neutrality and verifiability of the information presented.
- When approval is received from the uninvolved editor, the editor subject to mandated external review may make the edit to the article. Violations of these restrictions may be reported to Arbitration Enforcement.
- Upon the expiry of the applicable ban, Homunculus is subject to mandated external review as outlined in remedy 4, with respect to articles relating to the Falun Gong movement and/or the persecution thereof, broadly construed.
- Should the applicable ban be lifted, Ohconfucius is subject to mandated external review as outlined in remedy 4, with respect to articles relating to the Falun Gong movement and/or the persecution thereof, broadly construed.
- Colipon is subject to mandated external review as outlined in remedy 4, with respect to articles relating to the Falun Gong movement and/or the persecution thereof, broadly construed.
For the Arbitration Committee, Alexandr Dmitri (talk) 14:34, 21 July 2012 (UTC)
Comment on the case remedy for OC
Weird, just weird. Tony (talk) 15:42, 21 July 2012 (UTC)
Wishing you well...
Hope you're finding happiness outside of Misplaced Pages. On a small note, if you do decide to come back to editing, the date delinking matter here was archived without you ever submitting a statement, so if you do decide to come back, you should contact the committee before returning to date edits, so we can mark that resolved. Cheers, Jclemens (talk) 05:11, 22 July 2012 (UTC)
MfD nomination of User:Ohconfucius/essay/rant about Falun Gong pages
User:Ohconfucius/essay/rant about Falun Gong pages, a page you substantially contributed to, has been nominated for deletion. Your opinions on the matter are welcome; please participate in the discussion by adding your comments at Misplaced Pages:Miscellany for deletion/User:Ohconfucius/essay/rant about Falun Gong pages and please be sure to sign your comments with four tildes (~~~~). You are free to edit the content of User:Ohconfucius/essay/rant about Falun Gong pages during the discussion but should not remove the miscellany for deletion template from the top of the page; such a removal will not end the deletion discussion. Thank you. John Carter (talk) 18:40, 22 July 2012 (UTC)
- I have withdrawn the nomination. I do however want it known that, on Saturday, I spent several hours trying to complete the second step of the MfD nomination, only to be told that there was a "timeout error" every time. After getting sufficiently frustrated by this failure of several hours duration, I contacted AlexandrDmitri here to do it for me and got no help there. I have never had such problems occur to me in the past, particularly when other editors seemed to not be experiencing the same problem, and, frankly, I am more than a little creeped out by the entire thing. I am not, and will not, assume that there was some sort of "greater force" involved, but, on the off-chance that there was, I wish to offer my profoundest apologies. I just hope the weirdness doesn't recur somewhere else. John Carter (talk) 15:26, 23 July 2012 (UTC)
Recent events
The Purple Star | ||
There are admittedly times in all of our lives which create extraordinary difficulties for all of us. Many of us have serious problems dealing with them. Few people would have the ability to at the same time fight for the greater good in an entirely voluntary effort to promote the dissemination of knowledge. You have left the project now because of your having to deal with extreme cases of both at once. It is always a bit depressing to see one of our own fall in battle for the greater good, but in your case we know that you have the potential to return, should you see fit. We all hope that the extreme situation in your personal life improves as well. That might make it easier for you to eventually return, if you choose to do so, but it would also mean that someone whom I believe we all respect and many of us admire will perhaps have the good life I think we all believe he deserves. John Carter (talk) 18:54, 22 July 2012 (UTC) |
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July 2012 Study of authors of health-related Misplaced Pages pages
Dear Author/Ohconfucius
My name is Nuša Farič and I am a Health Psychology MSc student at the University College London (UCL). I am currently running a quantitative study entitled Who edits health-related Misplaced Pages pages and why? I am interested in the editorial experience of people who edit health-related Misplaced Pages pages. I am interested to learn more about the authors of health-related pages on Misplaced Pages and what motivations they have for doing so. I am currently contacting the authors of randomly selected articles and I noticed that someone at this address edited an article on Influenza. I would like to ask you a few questions about you and your experience of editing the above mentioned article and or other health-related articles. If you would like more information about the project, please visit my user page (http://commons.wikimedia.org/User:Hydra_Rain) and if interested, please reply via my talk page or e-mail me on nusa.faric.11@ucl.ac.uk. Also, others interested in the study may contact me! If I do not hear back from you I will not contact this account again. Thank you very much in advance. Hydra Rain (talk) 13:10, 25 July 2012 (UTC)
Invitation to wikiFeed
Hello Ohconfucius,
I'm part of a team that is researching ways to help Misplaced Pages editors find interesting content to contribute to Misplaced Pages. More specifically, we are investigating whether content from news sources can be used to enhance Misplaced Pages editing. We have created a tool, called wikiFeed, that allows you to specify Twitter and/or RSS feeds from news sources that are interesting to you. wikiFeed then helps you make connections between those feeds and Misplaced Pages articles. We believe that using this tool may be a lot of fun, and may help you come up with some ideas on how to contribute to Misplaced Pages in ways that interest you. Please participate! To do so, complete this survey and follow this link to our website. Once you're there, click the "create an account" link to get started.
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Thanks! Jeremey Bentham (talk) 21:17, 25 July 2012 (UTC)
RfC on the spelling of Vietnamese names
- RfC: Should the spelling of Vietnamese names follow the general usage of English-language reliable sources? Examples: Ngo Dinh Diem, Ho Chi Minh, and Saigon, or Ngô Đình Diệm, Hồ Chí Minh, and Sài Gòn. The RfC is here.
Invitation to discussion
You're invited to participate in the Misplaced Pages:Media copyright questions#Tank Man image; Tiananmen Square protests article discussion. Whether you're interested in the whole discussion or not, I want one last thing to confirm which is written at the bottom of the discussion about your old deleted upload of file:Goddessofdemocracy-400x600.jpg. Thank you. -- Sameboat - 同舟 (talk) 04:28, 10 August 2012 (UTC)
The Purple Barnstar
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What?! You have been topic banned from the pages you love the most? To the point where you left Misplaced Pages? To be strictly honest, you were something of an inspiration for me to join Misplaced Pages. Looking back, I hardly edited Misplaced Pages until December 2011. And it was you, I believe, that I saw, who edited some article of the past, and inspired me of the Community behind Misplaced Pages and is just a bunch of ordinary people working together to create free, shared knowledge of the world. When I saw the ArbCom case, I was personally shocked. And more when I saw the outcome of it. Sure, you had some frustrations here, some difficulties there, but all in all, you were a great contributor to Misplaced Pages. Rejoin Misplaced Pages! And when the time comes, appeal to the Arbitration Committee. Convince them not that you were innocent, but that you accept their findings. Thanks for introducing me to a growing Community behind the largest encyclopedia in the world. Michaelzeng7 (talk) 21:57, 11 August 2012 (UTC) |
- Although, if you do decide to leave Misplaced Pages forever, then I won't try to stop you again. Goodbye Ohconfucius. Michaelzeng7 (talk) 22:22, 11 August 2012 (UTC)
- Actually, I don't think for one moment that those are the pages he "loved most". I think he felt an obligation to deal with some errant, non-neutral editing, and became co-lateral damage. Tony (talk) 09:45, 12 August 2012 (UTC)
- Just saw this comment. Trust me, I don't think anybody actually loves Falun Gong pages. Loathing, fear, disgust, and horror come to mind, but not love. He was however probably the single best contributor to that specific content, and I find it hard if not impossible to imagine that it will be possible to replace him on that content, or anywhere else. BTW, I was wondering whether anyone thinks it might be a good idea to stop the automatic archiving. I'd like to see at least the "Recent events" section I started stay visible on this page, so that the permanent "thank you" it implies is, probably, the most important and honestly most deserved thing that anyone coming to this page should see. John Carter (talk) 01:04, 28 August 2012 (UTC)
- I've added
{{dnau}}
to the recent events section, probably better than disabling archiving. --Mirokado (talk) 10:50, 28 August 2012 (UTC)
- I've added
- Just saw this comment. Trust me, I don't think anybody actually loves Falun Gong pages. Loathing, fear, disgust, and horror come to mind, but not love. He was however probably the single best contributor to that specific content, and I find it hard if not impossible to imagine that it will be possible to replace him on that content, or anywhere else. BTW, I was wondering whether anyone thinks it might be a good idea to stop the automatic archiving. I'd like to see at least the "Recent events" section I started stay visible on this page, so that the permanent "thank you" it implies is, probably, the most important and honestly most deserved thing that anyone coming to this page should see. John Carter (talk) 01:04, 28 August 2012 (UTC)
- Actually, I don't think for one moment that those are the pages he "loved most". I think he felt an obligation to deal with some errant, non-neutral editing, and became co-lateral damage. Tony (talk) 09:45, 12 August 2012 (UTC)
13 May incident
Hi. U moved the article May 13 incident to 13 May incident. English sources mainly use May 13. If you google 13 May incident, May 13 will come out. I think your rationale (to mirror Malaysian article) is not a good rationale. English and Malay grammar is different. I cant move it back cos of something. Mind moving it back? ќמшמφטтгמ 07:36, 17 August 2012 (UTC)
- (talk page stalker) Hi Kawaputra! Ohconfucius has retired, so I don't think you're going to receive assistance here. You may wish to consult Misplaced Pages:Requested moves instead. Good luck! GoingBatty (talk) 17:17, 17 August 2012 (UTC)
- Hi GB, thanks for responding. Yea, i thought of just giving it a shot. I'm too lazy of going through the requested move process, but i'll go do it one day. Thanks! ќמшמφטтгמ 01:33, 18 August 2012 (UTC)
Hello
Honestly, I miss you, Ohconfucius. I hope you consider rejoining Misplaced Pages. You are an example for many in this project. Don't let a few bad apples ruin the great path you've paved here. If you ever decide to come back, shoot me a message. We all miss you. ComputerJA (talk) 23:53, 27 August 2012 (UTC)
Small problem
Retired? You/smalleditor recently did this, which removed non-breaking spaces in violation of WP:DASH. —Justin (koavf)❤T☮C☺M☯ 10:06, 28 August 2012 (UTC)
- Well, the problem with those nbsp syntaxes is that they're unnecessary towards the start of the line, which is the case in both instances. Right up front in an article they can also turn newbie editors off, too. But I'm sure if OC returns he'll take note of this and consider whether to modify the script. Thank you for the feedback. Tony (talk) 10:12, 28 August 2012 (UTC)
August 2012
This account has been blocked indefinitely as a sock puppet that was created to violate Misplaced Pages policy. Note that multiple accounts are allowed, but using them for illegitimate reasons is not. If this account is not a sock puppet, and you would like to be unblocked, you may appeal this block by adding the text {{unblock|Your reason here ~~~~}} below, but you should read the guide to appealing blocks first. Jclemens (talk) 21:51, 28 August 2012 (UTC)
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- It's rather unfortunate that you decided to return to date-related editing without addressing the previous allegations of impropriety against you. You are expected to contact the committee via email (email is left enabled on this account) to start a discussion of how you plan to address those pending allegations. Jclemens (talk) 21:54, 28 August 2012 (UTC)
- Jclemens, I'm struggling with the accusation that User:Ohconfucius is a sock—of whom? Does it involve his running of an alt account, User:Smalleditor. This was a declared account from the start. The accusation needs to clarify exactly what the problem is (this is a policy requirement). Does "without addressing the previous allegations of impropriety against you" refer to dateref complaints? Or that weird Falung Gong judgement you guys made? It's opaque to me.
OC does need to formally declare and guarantee a change in editing behaviour to avoid these dateref complaints (by one rather aggressive editor in particular). I encourage him to make such a declaration to the satisfaction of the committee. Tony (talk) 02:41, 29 August 2012 (UTC)
- Ohconfucius resumed editing as User:Smalleditor, a declared alternate account, and made a number of date related changes, without contacting the arbitration committee to discuss the previously unresolved complaints made to the committee about his editing in date-related areas. He was notified of the previous complaint, made an initial response but never substantially addressed the complaint before retiring, and my reminder of his obligation to do so before any return to date related editing still sits above on this page. While I think the block is quite regrettable, it is entirely of his own making. Jclemens (talk) 03:36, 29 August 2012 (UTC)
- I don't disagree with what you say. It should have been much better managed, the whole thing (except that there were serious RL issues impinging on him ... while I urge you to take these into consideration, I know that they can't excuse all). My take is that OC is rather less interested than editors around him, including me, in his returning. But we've come to rely on his technical and other advice, a role that would be very hard to replace. I'm discussing the scenario with him by email. Tony (talk) 04:46, 29 August 2012 (UTC)
- I regret this matter as well. I would contact him, but I have a feeling Tony might know him better, and I don't want any sort of impression of people "ganging up" on him, so I haven't and will not "gang up" on him regarding this. Jclemens, you know the details here a lot better than I do. While I agree he should have contacted ArbCom, I can also see how it might be possible that he wanted the stigma of the ArbCom ruling, indicating that he was somehow pro-PRC, to not follow him around from this point forward. I also note in your first comment on this thread that he should contact ArbCom, in fact, that he is "expected" to. Not knowing what Tony is finding out here, I assume that, if as I think it might be that notice slipped his mind, given the recent developments in his life. I think he kind of implied that was probably his thinking by indicating it is an alternate account, as opposed to trying to pass himself off as a new editor. I hope I don't seem to be putting words in his mouth, but if this were an honest attempt to come back under a different name, without the stigma of the ruling which seemed to be one of, if not the, primary reason for retirement, I hope that the ArbCom might be willing to maybe lift the ban, if he does contact you directly and deal with the pending complaint, which I think the evidence at least implies he might have forgotten the exact nature of? John Carter (talk) 00:34, 30 August 2012 (UTC)
- Such a block is not punishment, it's a technical means to ensure that he will address the outstanding issues before continuing any date-related editing. I expect he will be unblocked presently and the previously suspended proceeding resumed. Jclemens (talk) 01:04, 30 August 2012 (UTC)
- I regret this matter as well. I would contact him, but I have a feeling Tony might know him better, and I don't want any sort of impression of people "ganging up" on him, so I haven't and will not "gang up" on him regarding this. Jclemens, you know the details here a lot better than I do. While I agree he should have contacted ArbCom, I can also see how it might be possible that he wanted the stigma of the ArbCom ruling, indicating that he was somehow pro-PRC, to not follow him around from this point forward. I also note in your first comment on this thread that he should contact ArbCom, in fact, that he is "expected" to. Not knowing what Tony is finding out here, I assume that, if as I think it might be that notice slipped his mind, given the recent developments in his life. I think he kind of implied that was probably his thinking by indicating it is an alternate account, as opposed to trying to pass himself off as a new editor. I hope I don't seem to be putting words in his mouth, but if this were an honest attempt to come back under a different name, without the stigma of the ruling which seemed to be one of, if not the, primary reason for retirement, I hope that the ArbCom might be willing to maybe lift the ban, if he does contact you directly and deal with the pending complaint, which I think the evidence at least implies he might have forgotten the exact nature of? John Carter (talk) 00:34, 30 August 2012 (UTC)
- I don't disagree with what you say. It should have been much better managed, the whole thing (except that there were serious RL issues impinging on him ... while I urge you to take these into consideration, I know that they can't excuse all). My take is that OC is rather less interested than editors around him, including me, in his returning. But we've come to rely on his technical and other advice, a role that would be very hard to replace. I'm discussing the scenario with him by email. Tony (talk) 04:46, 29 August 2012 (UTC)
- Ohconfucius resumed editing as User:Smalleditor, a declared alternate account, and made a number of date related changes, without contacting the arbitration committee to discuss the previously unresolved complaints made to the committee about his editing in date-related areas. He was notified of the previous complaint, made an initial response but never substantially addressed the complaint before retiring, and my reminder of his obligation to do so before any return to date related editing still sits above on this page. While I think the block is quite regrettable, it is entirely of his own making. Jclemens (talk) 03:36, 29 August 2012 (UTC)
- Jclemens, I'm struggling with the accusation that User:Ohconfucius is a sock—of whom? Does it involve his running of an alt account, User:Smalleditor. This was a declared account from the start. The accusation needs to clarify exactly what the problem is (this is a policy requirement). Does "without addressing the previous allegations of impropriety against you" refer to dateref complaints? Or that weird Falung Gong judgement you guys made? It's opaque to me.
Unblocked (August 2012)
The Arbitration Committee accepts your block appeal, and I have unblocked your account. The clarification proceedings which you left unanswered in June 2012 will be re-opened in the coming days, and your prompt, complete participation in that request is required if your account is to stay unblocked (and your alternative account is to be unblocked). If you have any questions, please contact any arbitrator or the mailing list. For the Arbitration Committee, AGK 07:33, 30 August 2012 (UTC)
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