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• ... that Bach has a trumpet tell God's glory in cantata Die Himmel erzählen die Ehre Gottes, BWV 76, but oboe d'amore and viola da gamba express "brotherly devotion"? (7 July 2011 - a year later I dedicated my first GA to BarkingMoon (talk · contribs) who made the cantata a lead DYK and left - for lack of "brotherly devotion".)

• ... that in Handel's oratorio Messiah, Part III closes with the chorus "Worthy is the Lamb" (pictured), from text in the Book of Revelation, and an extended Amen fugue?

Welcome!

Hello, Gerda Arendt, and welcome to Misplaced Pages! Thank you for your contributions. I hope you like the place and decide to stay. Unfortunately, one or more of the pages you created, like Graham Waterhouse, may not conform to some of Misplaced Pages's guidelines for page creation, and may soon be deleted. ... --> Again, welcome! Hell In A Bucket (talk) 13:39, 2 August 2009 (UTC)

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Flowers and sapphires

Go Gerda Girl

You do great work and I love it! Don't let Tony get to you. Ihre Arbeit ist grossartig. Weiter schreiben, eien lange Zeit. PS, I really liked the article about the church the communists blew up. BarkingMoon (talk) 11:50, 19 June 2011 (UTC) Sehr geehrte Gerda, I have a watch on your page since a few weeks ago. I approved and moved 167 to holding for June 24.BarkingMoon (talk) 12:11, 19 June 2011 (UTC)

Thank you! --Gerda Arendt (talk) 12:13, 19 June 2011 (UTC)

Keine Problem. Koennen Sie ueberpruefen DYK Noel F. Parrish? Danke. BarkingMoon (talk) 12:14, 19 June 2011 (UTC)

Later, yes, --Gerda Arendt (talk) 12:24, 19 June 2011 (UTC)

See my talk page. Thanks so much! BarkingMoon (talk) 11:13, 20 June 2011 (UTC)

On 30 December 2011 the article became a GA, thanks to Ched, PumpkinSky and MathewTownsend, --Gerda Arendt (talk) 09:40, 31 December 2011 (UTC)

Flowers!

	Wonderful comment
	For your wonderful comment, cutting right to the heart of the matter! cmadler (talk) 13:18, 21 June 2011 (UTC)

Bach Cantatas Award

	Bach Cantatas Award
	For your work on Bach cantata articles, I hereby award you this barnstar! :) ♫GoP♫TN 16:35, 25 December 2011 (UTC)

almost forgot one thing

		The Random Acts of Kindness Barnstar
		For being one of the nicest people I know, on-Wiki or off. 184.59.31.77 (talk) 18:57, 6 February 2012 (UTC) (Khazar)

I will try to help

Hi Gerda, Hope you are well. I don't speak German, so I must rely on a website to translate at times. I use: translate.google.com. In reply to your question on the DYK fire template, "bickering" I believe has the same definition in English - basically "arguing, fighting, etc." Hope that helps .. I will post the other translations where you asked the question. cheers — Ched :  ?  13:48, 5 January 2012 (UTC)

on second thought, if the DYK is now going forward, I'll post here: the words you asked about translate to: "unrepentant, incorrigible and impervious to advice" in English. And you're thoughts are not lost on me. :) — Ched :  ?  13:51, 5 January 2012 (UTC)

Thank you! --Gerda Arendt (talk) 14:45, 5 January 2012 (UTC)

German-English

You asked for an English translation of "uneinsichtig, unbelehrbar und beratungsresistent". Without consulting a dictionary, I translate those words as "uninsightful, unteachable, and resistant to advice", but there may be a more nuanced or idiomatic meaning that I am missing. The single English word that comes to mind to describe that set of characteristics is "pig-headed" (that is probably not an English word you know, but I think it is a word you will enjoy). I also think of the Misplaced Pages item WP:IDIDNTHEARTHAT.

Your English is much better than my Deutsch, so I am happy when I can help you expand your knowledge. I didn't respond on the page where you asked the question because I think it is a bad idea to continue the argument ("bickering") there. Also, I think it is best to avoid making accusations against people, because that often makes people angry, while failing to help them see the problem. (See Misplaced Pages:Avoid personal remarks.) --Orlady (talk) 14:54, 5 January 2012 (UTC)

I certainly enjoyed the new word and your sensible way of handling the case. I just asked words, didn't I? --Gerda Arendt (talk) 15:00, 5 January 2012 (UTC)

• Yeah, but "pig-headed" has more negative connotations than "hard-headed" or "stubborn". I will not choose a term to apply to this situation, per one of the above cited policies. Crisco 1492 (talk) 16:20, 5 January 2012 (UTC)

Learning, thank you! (Just approved your Aku hook), --Gerda Arendt (talk) 16:24, 5 January 2012 (UTC)

• Alright, thanks! Crisco 1492 (talk) 00:11, 6 January 2012 (UTC)

"impervious" rings a bell: "impervious to pain, up to a certain point" (The Fountainhead), --Gerda Arendt (talk) 22:26, 8 January 2012 (UTC)

Orlady, einsicht is indeed insight or understanding, but in this context uneinsichtig is nearer to "unreasonable". I suggest "unreasonable, incorrigible, and impervious to advice". Pig-headed is good. Moonraker (talk) 09:56, 6 January 2012 (UTC)

Thanks for more insight, on top of your brilliant idiomatic translation of the 1715 text about the (equal) skills of females to study, see above, --Gerda Arendt (talk) 11:57, 6 January 2012 (UTC)

Thankyou

Dear Gerda,

Your message and stone, with its numinous depths, is highly esteemed as being received from a friend whose insights have illuminated Misplaced Pages (and will I hope continue to do so). Was ruht dort schlummernd ... Was strahlt mir dort entgegen? The gift is the betokening of the giver. I am honoured!

I think the pixel point is revealed when looking at the article on portamento. I need not explain to you that portamento is a quicksilver principle which sings life through melodic phrasing, making the transitions between notes sustained, or supported on breath, and flexible in tone: and is not at all the same thing as a musical 'slur', which is a specific ornament. True portamento does not compromise the pitch or duration of the notes, but assembles them like gems on a thread. But the thread has little meaning in the digital explanation of the melodic line, unless one brings in the idea of slurring. And so the breath, the emotional intelligence, the performer, the soul is airbrushed out of reality. That's the swan-song of the old world to the new. Lots of love, Eebahgum (talk) 08:33, 10 February 2012 (UTC)

Thanks for reply! I have restricted it... ;-) yrs Steven Eebahgum (talk) 16:30, 10 February 2012 (UTC)

For a true gem of a person ...

	words of reason and trust
	To quote you: Thank you for speaking up with decency and fairness, treating editors as living people, — Ched :  ?  15:58, 18 February 2012 (UTC)

More

	You are a gem
	You need more gems for your collection! Montanabw 22:30, 20 February 2012 (UTC)

Thank you! That's my favourite, did you know? --Gerda Arendt (talk) 07:17, 21 February 2012 (UTC)

Hi jewel--I left a response to your note on my talk page, at "Precious". Thanks, Drmies (talk) 19:27, 23 February 2012 (UTC)

follow up archived, --Gerda Arendt (talk) 14:53, 5 May 2012 (UTC)

50 DYK Nomination Medal

		The 50 DYK Nomination Medal
		Awarded to Gerda Arendt. Fifty DYK nominations represent far more work than most people know. Congratulations and thanks for your contributions! Orlady (talk) 05:47, 2 March 2012 (UTC)

Thank you, but it's actually not work but my pleasure to make things known that I stand for (thank you, Wehwalt, for that wording!). I keep a list of the nominated articles on my user page, --Gerda Arendt (talk) 07:12, 2 March 2012 (UTC)

There are so many stories about so many things out there that have been overlooked. Articles are stories, when they are done right (which you do).--Wehwalt (talk) 21:33, 3 March 2012 (UTC)

Hey, just noticed that you had one of these! Thanks so much for filling Misplaced Pages with quality content--and for being you! Khazar2 (talk) 01:53, 6 April 2012 (UTC)

Cherry Impact event barnstar

		The Cherry Impact Event Award
		I hereby award Gerda Arendt this Cherry Impact Event Award for the global impact your incredibly delightful sweetness and extraordinary talent brings to all of us! . – Dreadstar † 07:01:00, 4 March 2012 (UTC)

Thank you, made my day! --Gerda Arendt (talk) 07:02, 4 March 2012 (UTC)

Standing Strong

	When the Ill Winds Blow No Good
	I saw this image and thought of you and all you've done to help PS and Khazar. You are a bastion of refuge when the storm clouds come in, and I for one would like to thank you. Don't worry about people talking behind your back - as they say, "sticks and stones". Crisco 1492 (talk) 11:13, 6 March 2012 (UTC)

G. C. Lehms

Many thanks for the DYK nomination! Our man Lehms is actually quite an interesting character. I am afraid I am getting lazy and often don't get around to the DYK page. Moonraker (talk) 20:18, 3 January 2012 (UTC)

May I suggest this, to give the period flavour? (At the time, English used capitals even more liberally than German)... I have parachuted in "Demonstrating", which is clearly implied. If you prefer, it could also be "". Moonraker (talk) 09:10, 6 January 2012 (UTC)

Wonderful, take it, please, --Gerda Arendt (talk) 09:15, 6 January 2012 (UTC)

A barnstar for you!

	The Editor's Barnstar
	Great job rescuing the Great Dismal Swamp maroons. Congratulations for having the lead image on DYK. Ishtar456 (talk) 00:29, 11 March 2012 (UTC)

Thank you! If you like the story as I do tell the author, --Gerda Arendt (talk) 06:32, 11 March 2012 (UTC)

uh, a tree for you

	Tree award? These have to be "awards"?
	Hi, Gerda. I was editing Desivojca, and it has this nice tree photo from the "Komani neighborhood", so I figured it should be seen more. Enjoy. Alarbus (talk) 15:55, 12 March 2012 (UTC)

I do, I love trees! --Gerda Arendt (talk) 15:59, 12 March 2012 (UTC)

A barnstar for you!

	The Teamwork Barnstar
	Thank you so much for your help fixing up "Move Like This"! Your kindness and expertise is greatly appreciated! 28bytes (talk) 18:06, 17 March 2012 (UTC)

Thank you! My pleasure, for a change: „Keep on Knocking“, „Sad Song“, „Free“, „Drag on Forever“, „Just What I Needed“ - just what I needed, --Gerda Arendt (talk) 19:26, 17 March 2012 (UTC)

Yay! Another fan of The Cars! Montanabw 19:37, 19 March 2012 (UTC)

A barnstar for you!

	The Special Barnstar
	For believing in the goodness of people above all. For having faith and being willing to work on a cause that seemed hopeless. MathewTownsend (talk) 23:27, 14 April 2012 (UTC)

AMEN to that! Gerda is one of the kindest, most decent people I've ever met. In this case, wiki-met, not met in person, though I'd love to do that one day.PumpkinSky talk 11:37, 15 April 2012 (UTC)

Thank you, yes, please, all of it! --Gerda Arendt (talk) 11:41, 15 April 2012 (UTC)

• — Ched :  ?  00:37, 16 April 2012 (UTC) Like

The Rosetta Stone Barnstar

		The Rosetta Barnstar
		For all your work in carrying the great articles back and forth from the German and English Misplaced Pages projects. Thank you for sharing so much of both our cultures. — Ched :  ?  00:36, 16 April 2012 (UTC)

Thank you, my pleasure , --Gerda Arendt (talk) 07:52, 16 April 2012 (UTC)

A barnstar for you!

	The Special Barnstar
	Thank you so much for helping me navigate a new language! Your work editing and nominating Move Like This are very much appreciated! I could not have gotten my first German "Did You Know" without your help and guidance. 28bytes (talk) 22:09, 16 April 2012 (UTC)

I truly enjoyed a change in musical style and movement, was deeply impressed by the group's reverence for a deceased member, and liked the titles, especially the album title. Looking forward to more moves together, --Gerda Arendt (talk) 22:21, 16 April 2012 (UTC)

Thanks for !voting

	at my successful RFA
	Thank you, Gerda Arendt, for !voting at my successful RFA; I am humbled that you put your precious trust in me. I grant you this flower, which, if tended to properly, will grow to be the fruit of Misplaced Pages's labours. Hope you don't have a flower like this yet! — Crisco 1492 (talk) 11:33, 3 June 2012 (UTC)

Thank you for the unique flower and personal words! Don't be humbled, I served my own interests, increasing the number of good admins by one, you ;) Our exceptional concert was good! I will add a pic of the performance, --Gerda Arendt (talk) 18:34, 3 June 2012 (UTC)

fr:O heilges Geist- und Wasserbad

No later than this morning I finished that cantata and now you come with O Ewigkeit, du Donnerwort, BWV 20 ! Oh Lord, when will my torment come to an end??? And I see there are at least over 40 other cantatas to take care of... Some users have deserted Wiki for less than that Tschüss... LouisAlain (talk) 21:28, 7 June 2012 (UTC)

To torment you further: there are many more than 40 that need attention in English. For example BWV 20 was blue, so I had to expand it times five. You don't have to translate, certainly not all of it, - smiling back. - Just yesterday I showed your last smile to a friend who is a choral conductor, made her smile! Two heavy cantatas to come, I am also thinking of Chorale cantata (Bach), his are so special. Thanks for being with me! --Gerda Arendt (talk) 05:29, 8 June 2012 (UTC)

...e grazie mille per la intervenzione con "O heilges Geist- und Wasserbad", sono davvero male con HTML, LouisAlain (talk) 23:28, 8 June 2012 (UTC)

The Rosetta Barnstar

		The Rosetta Barnstar
		For superb, high quality, never ending, and total dedication to translating articles between the en and de wikis. Ausgezeichnet! PumpkinSky talk 00:54, 14 June 2012 (UTC)

Like Chedzilla (talk) 01:00, 14 June 2012 (UTC)
  Br'er Rabbit (talk) 02:33, 14 June 2012 (UTC)

Herzlichen Dank für das Geschenk! --Gerda Arendt (talk) 06:54, 14 June 2012 (UTC)

Es war mir ein Vergnügen. PumpkinSky talk 09:58, 14 June 2012 (UTC)

Mir auch, vor allem Horst ;) --Gerda Arendt (talk) 10:58, 14 June 2012 (UTC)

<Chedzilla Sieht für Google translate> ... and likes the "like" tweak. Chedzilla (talk) 14:14, 14 June 2012 (UTC)

Like Montanabw 16:57, 14 June 2012 (UTC)

A barnstar for you!

The Teamwork Barnstar

For your outstanding support and dedication in getting Yogo sapphire from a new article to DYK to GA to FA and FOUR. The team effort of the uncountable people involved in getting this unique article to FA is a textbook case of teamwork in article improvement, ie, what Misplaced Pages should be, not what it all too often is. I can never thank everyone enough. PumpkinSky talk 23:20, 20 June 2012 (UTC)

Thank you! A "real gem" of an article, also a "really useful" one ;) --Gerda Arendt (talk) 06:22, 21 June 2012 (UTC)

ps: this teamwork in article improvement IS, there should be more, I am ready ;) --Gerda Arendt (talk) 09:17, 21 June 2012 (UTC)

WOOF

Hey — Puppy of Dog The Teddy Bear • • 19:08, 23 June 2012 (UTC)

Don't believe in miracles, rely on them. Mascha Kaléko --Gerda Arendt (talk) 20:07, 23 June 2012 (UTC)

A barnstar for you!

	The Special Barnstar
	1) For your helpful and constructive feedback on my articles, the latest being Deutsche Zeppelin Reederei. 2) For your tireless work maintaining the DYK Germany list Misplaced Pages:WikiProject Germany/DYK 2012. 3) For just being you :) Ultracobalt  (talk) 17:35, 5 July 2012 (UTC)

Thank you! --Gerda Arendt (talk) 21:33, 5 July 2012 (UTC)

Die Himmel erzählen die Ehre Gottes

"The heavens declare the glory of God." Simply wonderful. PumpkinSky talk 11:15, 6 July 2012 (UTC)

OH, and when you smooth the translation of the Karasiak draft, we can move it to de main space.PumpkinSky talk 11:18, 6 July 2012 (UTC)

After Yogo Saphir and Unionskirche ;) - I shared images and gave green light to our friend --Gerda Arendt (talk) 11:24, 6 July 2012 (UTC)

A kitten for you!

Thank you for being awesome!

Hawkeye7 (talk) 21:08, 7 July 2012 (UTC)

Like it, hope it will get along with the Puppy of Dog The Teddy Bear --Gerda Arendt (talk) 23:05, 7 July 2012 (UTC)

Thank you

Thank you for your kindness and for spreading cheer. I only had time for a quick look at WP this morning, and yet I have felt awesome all day!--Kubigula (talk) 03:50, 20 July 2012 (UTC)

Thank you! If you want to read great answers like this, go spread it, there is no limit to cheer ;) --Gerda Arendt (talk) 05:29, 20 July 2012 (UTC)

Indeed, a positive attitude and a friendly spirit goes a massive way on this website.♦ Dr. Blofeld 10:44, 20 July 2012 (UTC)

You are part of it ;) --Gerda Arendt (talk) 10:54, 20 July 2012 (UTC)

A barnstar for you!

	International Translators Barnstar of Merit
	For your superb efforts in translating articles from German into English on wikipedia, not only on Germany related articles but also from around the world, helping to create a truly international wikipedia. ♦ Dr. Blofeld 12:01, 22 July 2012 (UTC)

Brucknerized

I mentioned earlier that I had a job in to do Mass No. 2 (Bruckner) coming up. Well, it came up - yesterday morning in St Bride's Church. Small but excellent and powerful choir, very good MD (your basic no-nonsense clued-up church music pro, and nice with it!) and the Mass was woven in liturgically as part of the service, not just zapped in as entertainment. (I have no serious objection to the latter but I do like doing music more in situ sometimes too!) The whole morning was absolute bliss. Oh and we played some nice bits of (mostly) Johann Christoph Pezel before and after, just to make sure that no-one was planning to doze too much ... A lovely gig. Cheers DBaK (talk) 08:17, 23 July 2012 (UTC)

That sounds blissful, thanks for sharing! We sing masses mostly in services, and we sing them almost exclusively in services, the only exceptions being the ones that seem too "great" for a service, Mozart's (2008) and the B-minor (2013!!!) --Gerda Arendt (talk) 08:32, 23 July 2012 (UTC)

Fantastic, lucky you! :) DBaK (talk) 08:39, 23 July 2012 (UTC)

Indeed, I feel blessed. I sang the B minor half a life ago here, and then crossed the Atlantic twice to sing it. A friend wants to do that for our performance, opposite direction. - Did you notice that I mentioned a certain instrument on top here? --Gerda Arendt (talk) 21:26, 23 July 2012 (UTC)

The B minor? Lucky lucky lucky! (Remember me from the ultra-long Moonlight Sonata discussion? ;-) Double sharp (talk) 13:52, 7 August 2012 (UTC)

I bet you sound wonderful! What is your favourite key BTW? Can you proof Neustädter Kirche then?♦ Dr. Blofeld 21:05, 4 August 2012 (UTC)

I just moved it, thinking it may not stay the only one. We had the same with Marktkirche (now 3 different ones). It was in the Neustädter that I sang the B minor the first time, did you know. Never thought about a favourite key. D major is good for trumpets and altos, much of the B minor is in D-major, just not the beginning, but the end ;) --Gerda Arendt (talk) 21:25, 4 August 2012 (UTC)

A barnstar for you!

	The Barnstar of Diligence
	The very least I can offer for one so diligent in supporting WP:Opera. kosboot (talk) 11:06, 24 July 2012 (UTC)

Thank you! We should sing more ;) --Gerda Arendt (talk) 11:19, 24 July 2012 (UTC)

Worth reading

Coming here for the first time, I like your "recommended reading" - both discussions and articles - on top! - Thank you for changing to support 28bytes from neutral, after reading. - Why did 28bytes unblock PumpkinSky? For part of the answer see here (perhaps a discussion I should recommend), quote "You are probably aware that the admin who blocked PumpkinSky said "there are a thousand other admins to overturn the block if it's unwarranted." 999 of those would be afraid to do so, right?" --Gerda Arendt (talk) 13:36, 27 July 2012 (UTC)

Thanks : )

I sometimes wistfully think that if everyone read (and followed) those, Misplaced Pages would be a much better place : )

As for the rlevse stuff, I was following how things were going back then. There were many discussions over many different pages, noticeboards and talk pages. Yes, in the end, I think someone would be needed to cut the gordian knot, but I'm not thrilled at the when, and to a lesser extent the who. "there's always another admin". - jc37 14:20, 27 July 2012 (UTC)

I didn't know any who wasn't involved. - I confess I was thrilled ;) --Gerda Arendt (talk) 14:25, 27 July 2012 (UTC)

thinking further: if there is a risk involved (and many thought it was), isn't it nobler to take it rather than leave it to "another"? For good reading try this ;) --Gerda Arendt (talk) 12:17, 28 July 2012 (UTC)

Fair point, however when it comes to the community, I tend to (though very slightly) err on the side of protecting the project. Not a reference to that situation necessarily, just in general. So in that case, I think a touch more care addressing the community's concerns, as well as least a little more time passing would have been better. No, we're never going to make everyone happy, but I think it was possible for the community to have been happier. Or at least more comfortable with things.

Plus, though I do think it was a fair case of IAR, I'd have preferred if someone else did it. And I'll share a secret with you, I was very tempted to unblock him myself (though with some criteria), but decided that it best if I mostly stayed out of it - I had supported the block, and wasn't precisely sure of my footing. But eventually, if I had felt more comfortable doing so (from a personal perspective, and from looking at the discussions at that point), I think I probably would have cited IAR and done so. So I'm not opposed to the unblock, I just think it could have been handled better. Water under the bridge : ) - jc37 14:57, 2 August 2012 (UTC)

Obviously I applaud the unblock - but that's likely no surprise. — Ched :  ?  12:28, 14 August 2012 (UTC)

Ditto. That's why he's deservedly a crat. Next time ps gets blocked, I'll do the unblock!--Wehwalt (talk) 21:18, 22 August 2012 (UTC)

Solti and your kind remarks

Your note on my talk page is greatly valued, and I am most grateful. Your regular encouragement of your colleagues is something the rest of us should emulate more. Bless you! Tim riley (talk) 16:46, 28 July 2012 (UTC)

Ave atque vale

I am sending this note to Wikipedians with whom I have most closely collaborated over the last six years or so. After pondering hard during a month's wiki-break in July I have sadly decided to withdraw fully from contributing. I have been worn down by continual carping, sniping and belittling from a wearisome few (you know the sort of people I refer to); the joy has gone out of taking part in this wonderful enterprise. I should be more resilient, but alas it's finally got to me.

Working with you has been a pleasure and a privilege: I count myself fortunate to have had such colleagues. My warmest wishes go with you for the future. I shall be happy to do any research, copy-editing, fact-checking etc you may ever feel inclined to ask me to do – but safely offline.

With my very best wishes,
Tim. (Tim riley (talk) 15:59, 10 August 2012 (UTC))

What can I say? I tried your talk, remembering "our" Messiah. Your legacy will stay, watch it, --Gerda Arendt (talk) 22:23, 10 August 2012 (UTC)

A barnstar for you!

	The Special Barnstar
	Again, another Barnstar from me. For being principled and not allowing good editors (Br'er Rabbit) to be thrown under the bus. MathewTownsend (talk) 01:40, 19 August 2012 (UTC)

Thank you, I enjoy it! Thank you for supporting Amazing Grace, we can't have enough of that ;) Some day I would like to see Messiah as TFA, on which I helped Brian and Tim, He was despised and Amen, --Gerda Arendt (talk) 05:32, 19 August 2012 (UTC)

A barnstar for you!

	The Original Barnstar
	Dear Gerda: It's really great to see your tremendous well done job in wikipedia. I was referred to you by user: Dr. Blofeld. He seems also to be one of the admirers of classical music. We are all on one page -- its' great! Best regards! Helen-Heller (talk) 00:49, 25 August 2012 (UTC)

Danke für die Überraschung! --Gerda Arendt (talk) 06:47, 25 August 2012 (UTC)

Awesome Wikipedian award

Sorry Gerda, I've only just understood the kind comment you made recently underneath Dr Blofeld's barnstar. Anyway thank you so much for your forbearance and encouragement. You are a blessing! Mit freundlichen Grüßen. --Bermicourt (talk) 20:47, 26 August 2012 (UTC)

Herzlichen Dank! --Gerda Arendt (talk) 20:55, 26 August 2012 (UTC)

Franz Kafka

Hi Gerda, I just wanted to drop a thank you for the nudge to read this article. "Thank you". I had seen mention of it, but only just now began to have a look at the topic. I will read through it in more detail when I get back to wiki (probably tonight), but on first glance I think it's a wonderful article. I would think it's very likely a candidate for FAP (I'm using that term as Featured Article Process rather than the historic "protection"). It's a new topic for me, so I'm not sure how much help I could be - but I'll keep an eye open as I read through it all. If I spot anything I think may help - I'll certainly feel welcome to contribute. Thanks again for everything (far too many things to mention in one posting on a talk page. :)). Best - — ChedZILLA 17:13, 28 August 2012 (UTC)

WP:GER DYK

		The Tireless Contributor Barnstar
		Keep seeing your name showing up - well done Agathoclea (talk) 10:24, 29 August 2012 (UTC)

Thank you! Trying to keep the German DYK running ;) --Gerda Arendt (talk) 10:26, 29 August 2012 (UTC)

Thanks

Thanks for the very nice recognition. I know I mostly edit articles that very few people read, so it's nice when someone notices! Acdixon 17:51, 30 August 2012 (UTC)

Giorgi Latsabidze on French Wiki

Dear Gerda Arendt:

I need to ask you a friendly advise, please confirm if those bellow can be counted as a secondary reliable sources. I will provide more but I need to first know and make sure I understand. I tried to create a french version of the article about georgian pianist Giorgi Latsabidze -but french folks are opposing. I would appreciate if you can guide me right in this, since you seem to have a great experience in this and you are a classic music lover! Here are sources, I need to know if they can be useful:

1, 2, 3, 4 5, 6

More: 1, 2, 3

I would appreciate your help! Much regards, Helen-Heller (talk) 15:58, 31 August 2012 (UTC)

Please be patient, I won't have much time this weekend, --Gerda Arendt (talk) 16:02, 31 August 2012 (UTC)

Thank you! No problem. Just get to me back whenever you grab a chance to view my sources! I appreciate your consideration! Helen-Heller (talk) 23:53, 31 August 2012 (UTC)

I looked now:

1 yes, 2 no, 3 doesn't add much, 4 excellent! 5 no 6 yes (perhaps external link)

1 don't find him, do you have a link to an article? 2 excellent 3 not the greatest paper, but useful for a quote about his playing, - good luck! --Gerda Arendt (talk) 09:30, 4 September 2012 (UTC)

Thanks so much! I have added those sources that you recommended on his English and German pages. Please have a look and see if you want to edit anything there and there. Thanks so much! Regards, Helen-Heller (talk) 05:12, 5 September 2012 (UTC)

DYK for Allein zu dir, Herr Jesu Christ, BWV 33

On 3 September 2012, Did you know? was updated with a fact from the article Allein zu dir, Herr Jesu Christ, BWV 33, which you created or substantially expanded. The fact was ... that Bach composed his chorale cantata Allein zu dir, Herr Jesu Christ, BWV 33, on a hymn by Konrad Hubert with a melody by Paul Hofhaimer, and first performed it on 3 September 1724? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/Allein zu dir, Herr Jesu Christ, BWV 33. You are welcome to check how many hits the article got while on the front page (here's how, quick check) and it will be added to DYKSTATS if it got over 5,000. If you know of another interesting fact from a recently created article, then please suggest it on the Did you know? talk page.

 — Crisco 1492 (talk) 00:03, 3 September 2012 (UTC)

The Rite and other matters

First, to let you know that The Rite of Spring, which you recently helped improve via the peer review, has now been nominated at FAC. Any further observations will be welcome there. I have followed the PR consensus, and removed the substandard soundfile; it is possible that this decision will be challenged, but we shall see.

Secondly, I can't thank you enough for letting me know about the Monteverdi's lost operas TFA in such good time. Thanks to you I was able to replace a confused and inadequate blurb with something much better. I've no idea when I will be officially told - probably 59 minutes before the day; the moral is, I think, to keep a watchful eye on the TFA queue page. Brianboulton (talk) 22:22, 4 September 2012 (UTC)

Good moral ;) the bot is down, there will be no official notice, TFA is a do-it-yourself process, and I like it! Fell free to improve other blurb i the preview as well, the project will thank you. I am traveling but will then support "The Rite" ;) --Gerda Arendt (talk) 06:01, 5 September 2012 (UTC)

Konrad Huber

You may look at this document and this one (though it is a bit indirectly related to him) to make the article much more comprehensive. Tomorrow I will also search for it using JSTOR, etc. Sorry, I have not looked at the hook yet, but whenever I am available I will look at it. Egeymi (talk) 18:25, 6 September 2012 (UTC)

Thank you

Hi!Gerda Arendt, Thank you very much for the award on the first day of my return to wiki editing after health break of one year. I very much appreciate your gesture.--Nvvchar. 18:43, 6 September 2012 (UTC)

We missed you and welcome your return! --Gerda Arendt (talk) 19:57, 6 September 2012 (UTC)

Thanks!

Thanks for your kind words! Unfortunately I haven't had time to edit Misplaced Pages in quite a while, but I hope to get back into it as soon as I can. But it's good to see one of my older articles Sebastian Shaw (actor) is getting such kind words and attention! — Hunter Kahn 04:06, 7 September 2012 (UTC)

Jack1956

Thanks for your kind message - it is much appreciated. We all work away here and usually we don't get noticed until we do something wrong. It is nice that some one is noticing the good things also. Jack1956 (talk) 10:14, 9 September 2012 (UTC)

Help with DYK nomination

Hello Gerda Arendt, I hope you will forgive me for asking for your help, but I have noticed that you have experience in nominating classical music articles for DYK. I have just finished a major expansion of the article about Frederik Magle (mostly by translating the Danish article), and using this tool I see that the "Prose size" has been increased a little more than five-fold, thus meeting the requirements for DYK, I think? But when I look at the nomination process it looks very daunting, so if you would be interested in helping me with it I would be grateful. If you don't have the time or inclination of course I will fully respect that as well. Sincerely, --Danmuz (talk) 16:12, 14 September 2012 (UTC)

I am interested and had a quick look, excellent expansion of 14 September. Think of a good statement, try to understand what you find clicking on "nominate ..." under the DYK section on the Main page. I will be back on Monday, there is time. You can go ahead and assemble the "Template" (from "nominate"), it doesn't have to be final, you can always edit. When you are pleased, you can submit it on top of the 14 September section on the nominations. Just compare to others, it's really not difficult. If you need help sooner, ask PumpkinsSky who has more years of experience on DYK ;) Have fun, --Gerda Arendt (talk) 16:21, 14 September 2012 (UTC)

Thanks for the advice! I will try to follow it and begin to assemble the template if I can, and then talk to you again on Monday :) Have a great weekend! --Danmuz (talk) 16:27, 14 September 2012 (UTC)

I've nominated the article here. Almost without mistakes, I hope :-) --Danmuz (talk) 19:28, 16 September 2012 (UTC)

Looks good. Suggestions: I prefer to not have the subject as a genitive, as in the original hook. The alternative have a leading: "ALT1:", and it's too long (the shorter and to the point the better), --Gerda Arendt (talk) 19:51, 16 September 2012 (UTC)

Thanks. On second thought I realized the hooks weren't so good, so I've replaced them with a better one, I think. As there had been no review or comments yet (except by you here), I hope replacing the old hooks was alright? if not I can of course re-instate the former hooks. --Danmuz (talk) 05:33, 17 September 2012 (UTC)

Thanks! Yes, replacing was right for the reason given. I will look after my morning routine, DYK Portal:Germany (done), DYK opera (working on it), Precious (two, because I missed yesterday), --Gerda Arendt (talk) 05:40, 17 September 2012 (UTC)

That's a cute hook but please help the reviewer to find the fact in the Danish source. (The composer's website is good as support but not independent.) --Gerda Arendt (talk) 06:32, 17 September 2012 (UTC)

Of course, but there's a problem. The url in the ref does not actually mention the bone, but is rather a listing of the radio program (on Danmarks Radio) where the work was broadcast. I can remember I heard that program back then and remember with certainty that they talked about the femur, but I can't remember any details, just that it at least supports the short mention I've added to the article and the hook (basically that he did require a femur and it was played on at the concert). But the problem is the radio program is not online, so the reviewer would have to contact DR to get a confirmation. Does the source for DYK hooks have to be available online? --Danmuz (talk) 07:55, 17 September 2012 (UTC)

No, it can be offline and accepted AFG. But would there be something else that can be sourced more easily? --Gerda Arendt (talk) 08:01, 17 September 2012 (UTC)

Unfortunately I couldn't find anything online. It would be a shame not to use that hook, but I'm not sure I can find a more easily confirmed source :( --Danmuz (talk) 08:11, 17 September 2012 (UTC)

Then I suggest you try it. If you can't a convince a reviewer you can always suggest a different hook later. It just happened to me, by the time the questions about the original hook were gone, it was outdated ;) --Gerda Arendt (talk) 08:18, 17 September 2012 (UTC)

Thanks for the help! I'll take the chance then. I've removed the url from the ref, so the reviewer won't go search for the bone there, but added a little more detail about the program instead. --Danmuz (talk) 08:39, 17 September 2012 (UTC)

Good! Just keep watching the nom. It may take a while until a reviewer comes along because it's a long articles related to a foreign language ;) --Gerda Arendt (talk) 08:47, 17 September 2012 (UTC)

Hurray!! The article has been reviewed and promoted and will go into the queue soon it seems. I want to thank you very much for your help. It gave me the confidence to go ahead and nominate and then helped me improve the nomination. Cheers, --Danmuz (talk) 06:11, 21 September 2012 (UTC)

		The Helping Hand Barnstar
		Thank you for helping a newbie DYK-nominator! Danmuz (talk) 06:11, 21 September 2012 (UTC)

Thank you, means a lot to me, --Gerda Arendt (talk) 06:14, 21 September 2012 (UTC)

A refreshing beverage

	A Martini with Sprite, Lemon peel and ice
	Thought you could use a cool, refreshing drink after a busy weekend! ♦ Dr. Blofeld 21:02, 17 September 2012 (UTC)

feels good, thank you! --Gerda Arendt (talk) 21:05, 17 September 2012 (UTC)

The coolest drink in the world involves lemon, limes and ice! Have you ever tried eating limes? On a hot summer's day, sliced limes in ice, what a colour!. ♦ Dr. Blofeld 21:10, 17 September 2012 (UTC)

German translation

Would you mind taking a look at Altes Stadthaus, Bonn for me? Thanks! :) Thine Antique Pen (talk) 17:09, 18 September 2012 (UTC)

After Bach BWV 27, tomorrow, --Gerda Arendt (talk) 22:07, 18 September 2012 (UTC)

Now that day is almost over - RL, no Bach yet, a few days of travel, patience please, --Gerda Arendt (talk) 15:02, 19 September 2012 (UTC)

Red links in WI

Chor von St. Bonifatius has red links, most also in German, but some only here, August Wiltberger, Peter Griesbacher, Friedrich Zehm, the Frankfurt cathedral organist Andreas Boltz, the church in Görlitz St. Jakobus, Görlitz (de), --Gerda Arendt (talk) 21:59, 18 September 2012 (UTC)

„“♦ Dr. Blofeld 11:02, 19 September 2012 (UTC)

Impressed, before looking! --Gerda Arendt (talk) 11:04, 19 September 2012 (UTC)

Allgemeiner Cäcilien-Verband für Deutschland, will need a name, --Gerda Arendt (talk) 11:23, 19 September 2012 (UTC)

Thanks, done.♦ Dr. Blofeld 13:18, 19 September 2012 (UTC)

Thank you, - no more until Tuesday, please, will travel, --Gerda Arendt (talk) 13:32, 19 September 2012 (UTC)

Hey you linked it!♦ Dr. Blofeld 14:28, 19 September 2012 (UTC)

Sure, that's where I found it missing ;) --Gerda Arendt (talk) 15:00, 19 September 2012 (UTC)

Indeed its my motto on here. Bgwhite take note.♦ Dr. Blofeld 09:13, 20 September 2012 (UTC)

Andreas Boltz is ready for nom. If you have a moment of the next few days, patience of course..♦ Dr. Blofeld 06:22, 21 September 2012 (UTC)

Great, thank you! Small world: the other day (9-9, before singing the 9th) a soprano friend told me that her daughter has an excellent position now as assistant to the organist of the Frankfurt cathedral, - only in editing did I realize she spoke about Boltz. I will find a different hook ;) Personal: he will play in the the second performance of the new Mawby Missa solemnis, but that's too early to say, 3 Nov, and likely unsourced, didn't look yet. The other conductors of the choir are red, but also in German, Günther Nierle and Peter Kempin, the latter more notable, melodies in hymnal, --Gerda Arendt (talk) 06:31, 21 September 2012 (UTC)

Nice one. Let me know when you want those articles. I hope you don't mind but I've restored part of the intro as I think the lead should summarize his main positions.♦ Dr. Blofeld 07:23, 21 September 2012 (UTC)

I wanted to point out the ONE thing of interest to a non-German reader, it is is only "main position", + Classical music and Opera have short leads everywhere, but as you like it. - When: 3 October is the day of the premiere, Boltz nominated (who will play the second performance, after Michiels, cathedral organist in Bruges). The German Misplaced Pages thinks the choir is not notable ;) --Gerda Arendt (talk) 07:30, 21 September 2012 (UTC)

ps: plenty of red links in Boltz ;) --Gerda Arendt (talk) 07:32, 21 September 2012 (UTC)

Hokay, will do later. Do you want to DYK any of the others I started above?♦ Dr. Blofeld 07:39, 21 September 2012 (UTC)

Zehm possible, if referenced more, same for Allgemeiner Cäcilien-Verband für Deutschland, - will you do the Ansbach venues? --Gerda Arendt (talk) 11:42, 21 September 2012 (UTC)

Already nommed.♦ Dr. Blofeld 14:19, 21 September 2012 (UTC) Started Günther Nierle, couldn't find anything decent on Peter.♦ Dr. Blofeld 11:37, 22 September 2012 (UTC)

Thank you for Nierle! Kempin is in the same Limburg source. Zelter-Plakette. Will see when I get to the translation, traveling, --Gerda Arendt (talk) 05:25, 23 September 2012 (UTC)

Cheers Gerda, happy travels! Started Zelter-Plakette but its pretty rough.. Hochschule für Musik Würzburg , Günther Kaunzinger, no more for now if you're travelling!♦ Dr. Blofeld 07:02, 23 September 2012 (UTC)

Back, yes, hiking was excellent. Looked at Kaunzinger (living), Hochschule needs to wait. Wanted: Zehm sources, for nom today the latest, + Le Laudi (de:Le Laudi di San Francesco d’Assisi), full name only as redirect, --Gerda Arendt (talk) 16:54, 24 September 2012 (UTC)

Sounds like fun. Can you check the sport section of Honiara?♦ Dr. Blofeld 15:49, 25 September 2012 (UTC)

Not right now, it occured to me today (!) that I wanted to write and nominate a cantata for St. Michael's - 29 Sept. We also have a rehearsal tonight. Possibly tomorrow. Can you source the last two more, Kaunzinger and MH Würzburg (both good for DYK)? Würzburg could have a list of notable students/teachers, many links! --Gerda Arendt (talk) 15:55, 25 September 2012 (UTC)

I've started Kurt Suttner, that'll do for now then. Honiara sport section only has two sentences needing checking I think, no rush though.♦ Dr. Blofeld 16:15, 25 September 2012 (UTC)

Checking changes to Boltz, a sprinter from creation to the Main page ;) --Gerda Arendt (talk) 16:18, 25 September 2012 (UTC)

Yeah, I was going to say, almost too quick, now that's rare!!♦ Dr. Blofeld 16:19, 25 September 2012 (UTC)

Someone's first review, deserves praise ;) --Gerda Arendt (talk) 16:22, 25 September 2012 (UTC)

100th anniversary of the St Boniface Choir

We have English writers who are just as challenging. Thomas Browne was an early offender... "And since death must be the Lucina of life, and even Pagans could doubt, whether thus to live were to die; since our longest sun sets at right descensions, and makes but winter arches, and therefore it cannot be long before we lie down in darkness, and have our light in ashes; since the brother of death daily haunts us with dying mementoes, and time that grows old in itself, bids us hope no long duration; — diuturnity is a dream and folly of expectation."

As with all such writers, the meaning is hard even for natives to seize. I am struggling with the German you sent me, but how about this? "The artistic events recorded since 1929 stand now as a magnificent testimony to the very lively part played by the choir and its leadership in the general religious, liturgical, and church-music life and in the common cultural landscape of this period." Moonraker (talk) 20:27, 19 September 2012 (UTC) (NB anniversary is usually given two Ns)

Thank you so much for your lively part played! My "n"-key is harder than the others ... - believe it or not, it's 150 years, I remember the celebrations of 125, --Gerda Arendt (talk) 21:05, 19 September 2012 (UTC)

All the same, Diuturnity is a Dream and Folly of Expectation... especially when it comes to keyboards. Moonraker (talk) 14:16, 22 September 2012 (UTC)

DYK for Aus der Tiefen rufe ich, Herr, zu dir, BWV 131

On 23 September 2012, Did you know? was updated with a fact from the article Aus der Tiefen rufe ich, Herr, zu dir, BWV 131, which you recently nominated. The fact was ... that Johann Sebastian Bach composed the cantata Aus der Tiefen rufe ich, Herr, zu dir, BWV 131, as a young organist at Mühlhausen's Divi Blasii church? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/Aus der Tiefen rufe ich, Herr, zu dir, BWV 131. If you know of an interesting fact from another recently created article, then please suggest it on the Did you know? talk page.

Orlady (talk) 00:02, 23 September 2012 (UTC)

DYK for Hans Thamm

On 24 September 2012, Did you know? was updated with a fact from the article Hans Thamm, which you created or substantially expanded. The fact was ... that Hans Thamm, who founded the boys' choir Windsbacher Knabenchor in 1946 and conducted them for 31 years, recorded Bach's cantata Wer Dank opfert, der preiset mich, BWV 17, in 1961? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/Hans Thamm. You are welcome to check how many hits the article got while on the front page (here's how, quick check) and it will be added to DYKSTATS if it got over 5,000. If you know of another interesting fact from a recently created article, then please suggest it on the Did you know? talk page.

Casliber (talk · contribs) 08:03, 24 September 2012 (UTC)

Kafka copying

See User_talk:Moonriddengirl#Franz_Kafka_copying PumpkinSky talk 23:30, 24 September 2012 (UTC)

latsabidze sources

Dear G.A.: In Giorgi Latsabidze, I fixed some sources, put in right formatting (I think), made some minor corrections, can do more if you would give me more suggestions, if you have a moment of the next few days, patience of course is mine...! Would appreciate as always! Cheers, Helen-Heller (talk) 08:45, 25 September 2012 (UTC)

I will look later, but am quite busy, --Gerda Arendt (talk) 08:59, 25 September 2012 (UTC)

DYK for Andreas Boltz

On 25 September 2012, Did you know? was updated with a fact from the article Andreas Boltz, which you created or substantially expanded. The fact was ... that Andreas Boltz is the cathedral music director at the Frankfurt Cathedral Kaiserdom St. Bartholomäus? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/Andreas Boltz. You are welcome to check how many hits the article got while on the front page (here's how, quick check) and it will be added to DYKSTATS if it got over 5,000. If you know of another interesting fact from a recently created article, then please suggest it on the Did you know? talk page.

Graeme Bartlett (talk) 16:04, 25 September 2012 (UTC)

A barnstar for you!

	The Defender of the Wiki Barnstar
	For your work on today's featured article. Mark Arsten (talk) 18:12, 25 September 2012 (UTC)

Thank you! (I missed one, do you have a star with four points?) --Gerda Arendt (talk) 19:59, 25 September 2012 (UTC)

"Structure not wanted?"

Not by everyone... I'd removed the paragraph break, he readded it, and I wasn't going to fight with him about it, so I just left it. Thanks for tidying up the blurb at Phallus indusiatus and sorry if you felt you were getting caught in the crossfire. This related discussion might also interest you... or you might want to steer clear, your choice! Regards and very best wishes, Bencherlite 23:04, 25 September 2012 (UTC)

Thanks for pointing that out, I saw it and kind of answered in the other thread. I don't feel caught, don't worry. I would still like to find a way not to see a German king associated with "gross", but it's 1:12 where I live, no more ;) --Gerda Arendt (talk) 23:17, 25 September 2012 (UTC)

You were reverted as well, btw. Bencherlite 23:51, 25 September 2012 (UTC)

Hopefully Dabomb will deal with it before it goes on the MP. --Rschen7754 23:54, 25 September 2012 (UTC)

I'm sure he will, if he selects it - but that just makes more work for him, which is unfair. Alternatively, he'll ignore the nomination which might be unfair on the article. Either way, who wins from what's happening at TFAR at the moment? Bencherlite 23:58, 25 September 2012 (UTC)

The problem is that Raul is taking a wikibreak, and some users don't respect his authority anyway and are taking advantage. FAC and FAR are still running quite fine since there's multiple delegates who can deal with disruption, but at TFA it's only Dabomb against everyone else, and he's busy IRL too. (But thankfully he came back when I alerted him by email, or we would have had complete anarchy when we ran out of scheduled TFAs). --Rschen7754 00:14, 26 September 2012 (UTC)

That's not a problem; the wiki runs fine wo. Wiki's are not about “authoritah” they are about collaborations and merit. Br'er Rabbit (talk) 00:32, 26 September 2012 (UTC)

On Misplaced Pages, I don't believe in authority for the sake of authority, or structure for the sake of structure. However, in this case structure is needed, or we'll get people scheduling their own FAs as TFAs, or scheduling a whole bunch of similar articles in a consecutive row, or scheduling articles that are clearly not ready, etc. That is why there is a FA director and delegate here, to make sure that these concerns are addressed.

If you think that the TFA system should be trashed and redone from the ground up, then I would suggest starting a RFC and going about it the proper way, because after all, the community chose to have the current system. Either that, or stick with what we have. So in other words, either put up with it, or form a consensus to get things changed. But this "middle-ground" passive-aggressive behavior I see from multiple parties of making snide remarks against Raul, changing the TFA rules without consensus, sneakily scheduling TFAs in the hopes that Raul/Dabomb won't notice, etc. is disruptive. It needs to stop, and it needs to stop now. Raul hasn't been perfect, either, but that doesn't excuse the other side. I will not hesitate to bring further action/attention to this matter if necessary. --Rschen7754 08:28, 26 September 2012 (UTC)

These tweaks to formats are no big deal unless you choose to make them so, which is unhelpful. I've quit a lot of experience with web formatting and page design; example. And the blurbs can be re-tweak post scheduling. I've no real issue with Dabomb; he selects some interesting articles. I'm not “against” him. Br'er Rabbit (talk) 00:32, 26 September 2012 (UTC)

waking up to an interesting thread: we lived in anarchy for a month now, the result is the archive of September, I like what Dabomb scheduled, Lynching and Lettuce, --Gerda Arendt (talk) 07:05, 26 September 2012 (UTC)

DYK nomination of Herr Gott, dich loben alle wir, BWV 130

Hello! Your submission of Herr Gott, dich loben alle wir, BWV 130 at the Did You Know nominations page has been reviewed, and there still are some issues that may need to be clarified. Please review the comment(s) underneath your nomination's entry and respond there as soon as possible. Thank you for contributing to Did You Know! Yazan (talk) 08:26, 26 September 2012 (UTC)